--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Whats going on this Summer? Anyone having conferences etc...?
>

Well, right now I'm catching up on work after a busy semester, and catching up
on workouts.
Just to make sure I don't relax, I'm studying for the NSCA CSCS exam, which I'm
scheduled to
take in August.

In July, we kempo folk from the New England area are having a little 'get
together' to merely
put faces with names - just a social gathering.

I just had a student fly up from North Carolina for two (very full) days of
training while the
rest his family went to a local reunion. That was fun.

I don't know if we're hosting any seminars this summer. Still in the catching up
phase.

Matt

Good day all,

I have been running around like crazy... I am working full time
taking classes for my Masters, trying to make it to the gym, and of
course... kempo :-D.  I met a TKD guy at my gym who claims there is
just no time to get to formal classes and because he would only be
able to attend sporadically he doesn't want to be paying a hefty
monthly sum.

When i first started kempo the instructor had us pay per class,
before the class began.  He wasn't strict about when you paid (if you
didn't have the cash on you that day he wouldn't kick u out).  He
didn't own his own school and paid for the use of the local
gymnastics studio.

It becomes hard, I imagine, to have students pay per class because we
all have overhead and being able to forecast how much money you
should be getting greatly assists in day to day business.  So, what
about the TKD and those that just want to walk into a school where
they practice, smack a few bills on the counter and get a lesson?
What is the best way to help him out?

Seeya on the beach!

Tim

Whats going on this Summer? Anyone having conferences etc...?

I just wanted to let you all know that new members' messages will be
monitored until they posted something interesting about Kempo. So far,
the last three new members were spammers, caught by this method before
they bothered us. They have been removed.

So if you invite someone to join our SK group, just let them know that
their first few messages will be delayed as I review them for content.
After the review, they'll be free to post normally.

Sifu Bry

Folks asked for video, and I said 'later, I don't have the bandwidth or
storage.'

I was wrong.

Ken Warner of Evolution Karate has stepped up with an incredibly generous offer
I couldn't
refuse. He's providing video and bandwidth. If you like the movies, please
consider
purchasing his dvds for the high resolution versions. So far, 6 kata and Swift
Tigers are up
with text, Tai Sing Mon, Hansuki, ShotonQua, Branches of the Falling Pine, Lost
Leopard,
1000 Buddhas, Invincible Wall, Five Dragons Face the Four Winds, Nengli North
and Nengli
South and the Snake are up with just video. I'll get the text up as soon as I'm
able. I'm
grateful for the support, and am stunned with how far this project has come in
less than a
year.

The videos take  a moment to load. I'll streamline the pages when I get the
time.

Enjoy.

Matt

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy Schumacher" <dojo@...> wrote:
> Of course, as these are only my observations, I could be wrong about
> all of it.
> Eddy Schumacher

Eddy,

Thanks for your observations. They are great.

Bryan

Well, in brief, and since I have some bit of experience in all
three, my surface observation is that Kenpo emphasizes hand flow for
multiple striking, Shaolin Kempo uses a similar concept of taking
advantage of all angles but includes foot techniques and takedowns
in the flow, where Shaolin uses the whole body in continuous flow.
To elaborate - Kenpo strikes primarily with hand weapons (elbows
included) and can do so spontaneously from a variety of angles.
Indeed, the theory of defensive and offensive angles is the
foundation of Parker's "universal pattern" which is symbolized in
the Kenpo crest with the circle marked in eight sections.  while
some joint manipulations, kicks and takedowns are included, they are
the finish after a variety of hand strikes more often than not.
Shaolin Kempo doesn't stay so exclusively with hand strikes to
manipulate the body but rather takes advantage of grabbing the
opponent at the soonest opportunity to maneuver the opponent into an
advantageous position for the desired strike or kick, making it less
reliant on a stationary opponent to deliver the multiple
strikes/kicks, as the opponent is physically manipulated at the
soonest opportunity, THEN struck or felled.
Shaolin uses the whole body to strike.  For instance, if my punch
misses because my opponent bobs or weaves inside my  reach, my
extended arm can still strike hin with the forearm, shoulder, bicep,
whatever.  Picture the trivk of holding a ball in you hand palm up
with the elbow bent, releasing the ball and extending your arm to
pop the hall into the air with the inside of the elbow joint.
Meanwhile, the stance itself or the foot movement from one stance to
another IS the takedown, rather than being the set-up for the
takedown.  It is one more step advanced from Shaolin Kempo in
economy of motion.  You'll find similar whole body applications in
Feeding Crane Kung Fu, one of many other Shaoling derivatives that
has become popular in the last decade or so.  It is more "core"
oriented than "limb" oriented.
Of course, as these are only my observations, I could be wrong about
all of it.
Eddy Schumacher


> How different are the shaolin principles differnt from the shaolin
kempo
> principles?
>
> Respectfully,
> marlon
>
>
> On 3/20/07, Eddy Schumacher <dojo@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Hey there. Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
> > group. My name is Eddy Schumacher. (I don't like hiding behind
> > anonymous screen names. If you can't be honest about who you are,
> > what's the point?)
> > I started my martial arts study as a Boy Scout when my Scout
Master,
> > who had lived with his family on Okinawa, started showing me some
> > joint manipulation, striking conditioning, nunchaku, and other
> > stuff. Nothing formal. But I'd always had an interest from
reading
> > ads in comic books to looking up karate related materials in the
> > school library.
> > But it wastn't until I turned 21 that I began formal study (even
> > though as a Mormon missionary in Argentina I would occasionally
> > break boards and bricks, or do little demonstarations for the
> > curious country folk). At that point, 1982, I enrolled in Fred
> > Villari's in Provo, Utah while attending BYU. In 1984, a green
> > belt, I left Utah, and eventually found an offshoot group in KY,
> > under Jim Wright and his pupils who'd left Jim Brassard in MA.
Was
> > almost to black and on the instructor track, when I went back to
> > Utah and began teaching under the Villari banner in 1987.
> > When the Villari/USSD split occurred, (and I was at a meeting in
San
> > Clemente when Villari went off about the business woes of running
> > two separate coastal operations and constantly travelling to
monitor
> > New England and the West Coast, and Charlie Mattera began the
move
> > toward separation.) I went with USSD.
> > I eventually left USSD, came back, and split permanently in 1993.
> > Since then I still practice Kempo and Kempo principles, but have
> > primarily taugh Okinawan karate. I earned a Black Belt in
Shotokan
> > under one of Funakoshi's direct students, and have trained with
> > Shaolin monks for whom I helped get visas to the US. Still, Kempo
> > concepts are the core or template of how I interpret all the
orhter
> > arts I've been exposed to. You can, if you care to, access a more
> > complete account at my web site,
> > http://www.russbo.com/seidokan/seidokan.htm
> > or see my current pursuit of physical training at
> > http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kinkoshinkai
> > I've read a couple years worth of old messages, and looked at a
few
> > web sites of members. It seems to be a decent group of folks
doing
> > what they love the best they can, and while the posts seem
> > infrequent, I think it will be worth-while to be here.
> > Looking forward to the exchanges of info.
> > Eddy Schumacher
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Forever a student.
> Study, practice and share what you have:  This is the way of
mastery...and
> have fun along the way.
> If only you could love enough, you would be the happiest most
powerful being
> in all the worlds!
> www.shaolinkempo.ca
>

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy Schumacher" <dojo@...> wrote:
>
> Hey there.  Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
> group.  My name is Eddy Schumacher.  (I don't like hiding behind

Welcome Eddy. I hope you enjoy the group. The traffic goes from mildly
active to down right deserted. But the content is always good, minus
the spam that creeps in.

Sifu Bry

Hey there.  Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
group.  My name is Eddy Schumacher.  (I don't like hiding behind
anonymous screen names.  If you can't be honest about who you are,
what's the point?)
I started my martial arts study as a Boy Scout when my Scout Master,
who had lived with his family on Okinawa, started showing me some
joint manipulation, striking conditioning, nunchaku, and other
stuff.  Nothing formal.  But I'd always had an interest from reading
ads in comic books to looking up karate related materials in the
school library.
But it wastn't until I turned 21 that I began formal study (even
though as a Mormon missionary in Argentina I would occasionally
break boards and bricks, or do little demonstarations for the
curious country folk).  At that point, 1982, I enrolled in Fred
Villari's in Provo, Utah while attending BYU.  In 1984, a green
belt, I left Utah, and eventually found an offshoot group in KY,
under Jim Wright and his pupils who'd left Jim Brassard in MA.  Was
almost to black and on the instructor track, when I went back to
Utah and began teaching under the Villari banner in 1987.
When the Villari/USSD split occurred, (and I was at a meeting in San
Clemente when Villari went off about the business woes of running
two separate coastal operations and constantly travelling to monitor
New England and the West Coast, and Charlie Mattera began the move
toward separation.) I went with USSD.
I eventually left USSD, came back, and split permanently in 1993.
Since then I still practice Kempo and Kempo principles, but have
primarily taugh Okinawan karate.  I earned a Black Belt in Shotokan
under one of Funakoshi's direct students, and have trained with
Shaolin monks for whom I helped get visas to the US.  Still, Kempo
concepts are the core or template of how I interpret all the orhter
arts I've been exposed to.  You can, if you care to, access a more
complete account at my web site,
http://www.russbo.com/seidokan/seidokan.htm
or see my current pursuit of physical training at
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kinkoshinkai
I've read a couple years worth of old messages, and looked at a few
web sites of members.  It seems to be a decent group of folks doing
what they love the best they can, and while the posts seem
infrequent, I think it will be worth-while to be here.
Looking forward to the exchanges of info.
Eddy Schumacher

I have been studying martial arts since the age of 16, when I was in
boarding school and I am now 40, going on 41 :)
I started with Judo and Savate (being French it was an easy one) at the same
time and I had the opportunity combining the two in a fight early on at the
boarding school I was... You know the older ones picking on the youngest and
being one of the youngest and tallest I was an easy target.
Anyway I moved to the US in 1991 and found my way to kempo in 2000 and I
have not stopped since.
I teach at my instructor's school and also at a friend's school in WA state.

-- Fabien


--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "dragonswordkata" <dragonswordkata@...>
wrote:
>
> Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.
>

I honestly don't recall when my first experience in martial arts began.  it was
a short period when I was six or seven... my mothers way of giving me something
constructive to do while she ran errands.  I began shaolin kempo cerca 1994.  In
1998 I left my first SHAOLIN KEMPO  school to attend college where I also
experienced a few other martial arts including kung fu and capoeira.
I returned to shaolin kempo a few years ago and hardly needed a refresher due to
my diligent practice in absentia.  I am currently an instructor at my school and
love every moment of it.
www.njkarate.com


--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "dragonswordkata" <dragonswordkata@...>
wrote:
>
> Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.
>

Once again, we parallel Marlon. I finish my 17th year in Kempo this month.

A little bit here and there before that.

Matt

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Marlon Anthony Wilson"
<m.shaolinkempo@...>
wrote:
>
> 17 yrs kempo...other arts before that
> marlon
>
>
> On 2/18/07, dragonswordkata <dragonswordkata@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Forever a student.
> Study, practice and share what you have:  This is the way of mastery...and
> have fun along the way.
> If only you could love enough, you would be the happiest most powerful being
> in all the worlds!
> www.shaolinkempo.ca
>

You are more than welcome sir. If i may help in any other way Please
feel free to contact me.

Joseph Pierro

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
<fabien_pichard@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Professor,
>
> I am glad you explained us, I was curious about the PHD title, the
why and
> hows. Reading your bio on your web site, I did not have any doubts
about
> your ranks in multiple disciplines nor your skills...
>
> Thanks again for the clarification...
>
> In kempo,
>
> -- Fabien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of iskka_pierro
> Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:21 PM
> To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
>
> Greetings,
>
> My name is Joseph Pierro and I have been asked to clear up and
issue
> so here goes.
>
> In July 2005 I was Awarded a PhD in Martial Arts from the World
> Martial Arts Hall of Fame, sokeship, Head of Families and
> Grandmasters Council. This was Awarded to me by a Grandmaster
Robert
> Braff he is a Rep from that association. This was awarded to me at
> the World Karate union Hall of Fame. I was told it was for my
years
> of dedication to the martial arts. I said thank you and filed the
> award with a great many other thing I have been given, it was at
the
> urging of a few masters and grandmasters that I know that I framed
> and started to use it. I was told due to my rank it was something
I
> should I should use Its a piece of paper most people don't have.
> If I have offended anyone by this I will happily have honorary put
> behind the PhD on the site.
> The ISKKA is all about helping SKK schools if this helps then so
be
> it.
> Honoray PhD are given all the time to Presidents and Congressmen
and
> Important People By Four Year Universities I have two students who
> have Honoray PhD from a university.
> Hope this helps
>
> Master Joseph Pierro
> ISKKA Founder
>
> --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@>
> wrote:
> >
> > I'm sorry you don't like my answer which I still believe to be
> true.  I will have you question answered by Ma Pierro himself
> shortly.
> >
> > tim
> >
> > --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
> <fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nonononononono, a PHD is a doctorate or a post doc, usually
> about 5 years on
> > > the top of a Masters degree...
> > > A PHD is not an honorary title at all...
> > > A professor is one thing, a PHD is entirely another thing...
> > >
> > > -- fabien
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:47 PM
> > > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> > >
> > > when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
> > > inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
> > > Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that
> it is
> > > at this point that they have acquired the PHD title...
Although
> I
> > > could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper
> certification
> > > granting them an actual PHD...
> > >
> > > --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
> > > <fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is
> martial
> > > arts?
> > > > How? Just wondering...
> > > >
> > > > - fabien
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > > [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> > > > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> > > >
> > > > Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are
> attempting
> > > to
> > > > create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph
Pierro)
> I
> > > spoke
> > > > with has for a reason to organize the material, another was
to
> make
> > > it
> > > > easier for SKK schools to make money...
http://www.iskka.com/
> is
> > > the
> > > > clubs website.
> > > > Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this
> group.
> > > > Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that
> Prof I
> > > may
> > > > be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
> > > compete
> > > > with Ma Pierros.
> > > >
> > > > It seems if its not one thing, its another.
> > > >
> > > > Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested
hit
> Ma
> > > > Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.

Hello Professor,

I am glad you explained us, I was curious about the PHD title, the why and
hows. Reading your bio on your web site, I did not have any doubts about
your ranks in multiple disciplines nor your skills...

Thanks again for the clarification...

In kempo,

-- Fabien

-----Original Message-----
From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of iskka_pierro
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2007 4:21 PM
To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization

Greetings,

My name is Joseph Pierro and I have been asked to clear up and issue
so here goes.

In July 2005 I was Awarded a PhD in Martial Arts from the World
Martial Arts Hall of Fame, sokeship, Head of Families and
Grandmasters Council. This was Awarded to me by a Grandmaster Robert
Braff he is a Rep from that association. This was awarded to me at
the World Karate union Hall of Fame. I was told it was for my years
of dedication to the martial arts. I said thank you and filed the
award with a great many other thing I have been given, it was at the
urging of a few masters and grandmasters that I know that I framed
and started to use it. I was told due to my rank it was something I
should I should use Its a piece of paper most people don't have.
If I have offended anyone by this I will happily have honorary put
behind the PhD on the site.
The ISKKA is all about helping SKK schools if this helps then so be
it.
Honoray PhD are given all the time to Presidents and Congressmen and
Important People By Four Year Universities I have two students who
have Honoray PhD from a university.
Hope this helps

Master Joseph Pierro
ISKKA Founder

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm sorry you don't like my answer which I still believe to be
true.  I will have you question answered by Ma Pierro himself
shortly.
>
> tim
>
> --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
<fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> >
> > Nonononononono, a PHD is a doctorate or a post doc, usually
about 5 years on
> > the top of a Masters degree...
> > A PHD is not an honorary title at all...
> > A professor is one thing, a PHD is entirely another thing...
> >
> > -- fabien
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:47 PM
> > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> >
> > when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
> > inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
> > Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that
it is
> > at this point that they have acquired the PHD title... Although
I
> > could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper
certification
> > granting them an actual PHD...
> >
> > --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
> > <fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is
martial
> > arts?
> > > How? Just wondering...
> > >
> > > - fabien
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> > > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> > >
> > > Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are
attempting
> > to
> > > create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro)
I
> > spoke
> > > with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to
make
> > it
> > > easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/
is
> > the
> > > clubs website.
> > > Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this
group.
> > > Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that
Prof I
> > may
> > > be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
> > compete
> > > with Ma Pierros.
> > >
> > > It seems if its not one thing, its another.
> > >
> > > Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit
Ma
> > > Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>





Yahoo! Groups Links

Greetings,

My name is Joseph Pierro and I have been asked to clear up and issue
so here goes.

In July 2005 I was Awarded a PhD in Martial Arts from the World
Martial Arts Hall of Fame, sokeship, Head of Families and
Grandmasters Council. This was Awarded to me by a Grandmaster Robert
Braff he is a Rep from that association. This was awarded to me at
the World Karate union Hall of Fame. I was told it was for my years
of dedication to the martial arts. I said thank you and filed the
award with a great many other thing I have been given, it was at the
urging of a few masters and grandmasters that I know that I framed
and started to use it. I was told due to my rank it was something I
should I should use Its a piece of paper most people don't have.
If I have offended anyone by this I will happily have honorary put
behind the PhD on the site.
The ISKKA is all about helping SKK schools if this helps then so be
it.
Honoray PhD are given all the time to Presidents and Congressmen and
Important People By Four Year Universities I have two students who
have Honoray PhD from a university.
Hope this helps

Master Joseph Pierro
ISKKA Founder

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...>
wrote:
>
> I'm sorry you don't like my answer which I still believe to be
true.  I will have you question answered by Ma Pierro himself
shortly.
>
> tim
>
> --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
<fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> >
> > Nonononononono, a PHD is a doctorate or a post doc, usually
about 5 years on
> > the top of a Masters degree...
> > A PHD is not an honorary title at all...
> > A professor is one thing, a PHD is entirely another thing...
> >
> > -- fabien
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:47 PM
> > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> >
> > when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
> > inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
> > Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that
it is
> > at this point that they have acquired the PHD title... Although
I
> > could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper
certification
> > granting them an actual PHD...
> >
> > --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
> > <fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is
martial
> > arts?
> > > How? Just wondering...
> > >
> > > - fabien
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> > > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> > >
> > > Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are
attempting
> > to
> > > create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro)
I
> > spoke
> > > with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to
make
> > it
> > > easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/
is
> > the
> > > clubs website.
> > > Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this
group.
> > > Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that
Prof I
> > may
> > > be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
> > compete
> > > with Ma Pierros.
> > >
> > > It seems if its not one thing, its another.
> > >
> > > Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit
Ma
> > > Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>

I'm sorry you don't like my answer which I still believe to be true.  I will
have you question answered by Ma Pierro himself shortly.

tim

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard" <fabien_pichard@...>
wrote:
>
> Nonononononono, a PHD is a doctorate or a post doc, usually about 5 years on
> the top of a Masters degree...
> A PHD is not an honorary title at all...
> A professor is one thing, a PHD is entirely another thing...
>
> -- fabien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:47 PM
> To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
>
> when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
> inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
> Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that it is
> at this point that they have acquired the PHD title... Although I
> could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper certification
> granting them an actual PHD...
>
> --- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
> <fabien_pichard@> wrote:
> >
> > I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is martial
> arts?
> > How? Just wondering...
> >
> > - fabien
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> > Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> > Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> > To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
> >
> > Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting
> to
> > create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I
> spoke
> > with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make
> it
> > easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is
> the
> > clubs website.
> > Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this group.
> > Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that Prof I
> may
> > be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
> compete
> > with Ma Pierros.
> >
> > It seems if its not one thing, its another.
> >
> > Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit Ma
> > Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
> >
> > Tim
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yahoo! Groups Links
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

Nonononononono, a PHD is a doctorate or a post doc, usually about 5 years on
the top of a Masters degree...
A PHD is not an honorary title at all...
A professor is one thing, a PHD is entirely another thing...

-- fabien

-----Original Message-----
From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
Sent: Friday, February 16, 2007 9:47 PM
To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization

when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that it is
at this point that they have acquired the PHD title... Although I
could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper certification
granting them an actual PHD...

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
<fabien_pichard@...> wrote:
>
> I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is martial
arts?
> How? Just wondering...
>
> - fabien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
>
> Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting
to
> create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I
spoke
> with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make
it
> easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is
the
> clubs website.
> Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this group.
> Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that Prof I
may
> be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
compete
> with Ma Pierros.
>
> It seems if its not one thing, its another.
>
> Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit Ma
> Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>





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when one attians the rank of 7th or 8th degree black belt, (im
inclined to believe the latter), He may be called Professor...
Professor I, Professor Kimo, Profesor Pierro... I believe that it is
at this point that they have acquired the PHD title... Although I
could be wrong, I don't believe it is an actual paper certification
granting them an actual PHD...

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Fabien Pichard"
<fabien_pichard@...> wrote:
>
> I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is martial
arts?
> How? Just wondering...
>
> - fabien
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
> Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
> Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
> To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization
>
> Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting
to
> create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I
spoke
> with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make
it
> easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is
the
> clubs website.
> Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this group.
> Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that Prof I
may
> be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would
compete
> with Ma Pierros.
>
> It seems if its not one thing, its another.
>
> Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit Ma
> Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.
>
> Tim
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>

I was just on the ISKKA site and Master Pierro has a PHD is martial arts?
How? Just wondering...

- fabien

-----Original Message-----
From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2007 10:32 AM
To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Organization

Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting to
create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I spoke
with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make it
easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is the
clubs website.
Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this group.
Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that Prof I may
be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would compete
with Ma Pierros.

It seems if its not one thing, its another.

Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit Ma
Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.

Tim




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Tim,

Thanks for the information.

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting to
> create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I spoke
> with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make it
> easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is the
> clubs website.

Im witnessing a new trend.  There are some SKK that are attempting to
create "clubs" and such.  One of those masters (Joseph Pierro) I spoke
with has for a reason to organize the material, another was to make it
easier for SKK schools to make money... http://www.iskka.com/ is the
clubs website.
Other SKK Masters aren't so willing to follow and join this group.
Maybe over time this will change.  I have heard rumors that Prof I may
be thinking about doing a club that is like this which would compete
with Ma Pierros.

It seems if its not one thing, its another.

Feel free to check out the skk site and if your interested hit Ma
Pierro up.  I'm sure he'd appreciate hearing from you.

Tim

Doin' well actually thanks.

Hey I am going to China in March for training and I am looking for info on
the following forms:

1. . The form of Shaolin Quan (boxing)
2. . 8 postures of Ba Duan Jin
3. . 24 postures of simplified Xio Hong Quan (boxing)
4. . Traditional Xia Hong Quan (boxing) 40 postures
5. . Luo Han Quan (boxing) 36 postures also called Arhat boxing

Thanks a ton! -=- Fabien

-----Original Message-----
From: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com [mailto:shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of dimmaktimmah
Sent: Wednesday, January 31, 2007 5:09 PM
To: shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Shaolin Kempo] Touching Base

First, I want to apologize for the SPAM that was sent out recently.  I
hate when those people 'join'.

How is everyones training going?




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