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you start developing inner chi very early in your training with breathing
exercises.as brown belt.you should have 10 point blocking system.no better place
to start.good luck with your training. John morris 6th dan

shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com wrote:
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>       I am a brown belt in shaolin kempo and have been practising the art for
about six years, and believe me I have nothing against training but???
> Does shaolin kempo at one point concentrate more on inner strenght than
exterior stenght. Such as Chi?
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>       Believe it or not the art you practice translates very well into the
internal arts.  Some of Valari instructors went through certification training
in internal arts such as chi kung.  Many of the movements from tai chi forms are
found in kempos and combinations.  My instructor has required his blackbelts to
learn a tai chi form to better see the similarity.  He teaches one to us through
frist degree and second degree black belt.
> If you know of Kimo Ferreira's Kempo Jutsu and that Master Ingargiola of NY
(shaolinkempo. com) is his inheritor.  Kimo is very vocal and demonstrative of
the tai chi applications in kempo.  So the application of internal arts are
there.  It really depends on your instructor how much they go into internal arts
and aspects of shaolin kempo.  Both my original and my current insturctor were
learned in internal arts.
> As you go through the blackbelt ranks it might be beneficial for you to visit
a tai chi seminar or class with a good instructor to learn how your movements
translate.  and with this information you can improve your martial arts ability.
> So- Yes.
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>> Does shaolin kempo at one point concentrate more on inner strenght than
exterior stenght. Such as Chi?
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Believe it or not the art you practice translates very well into the internal
arts.  Some of Valari instructors went through certification training in
internal arts such as chi kung.  Many of the movements from tai chi forms are
found in kempos and combinations.  My instructor has required his blackbelts to
learn a tai chi form to better see the similarity.  He teaches one to us through
frist degree and second degree black belt.
If you know of Kimo Ferreira's Kempo Jutsu and that Master Ingargiola of NY
(shaolinkempo.com) is his inheritor.  Kimo is very vocal and demonstrative of
the tai chi applications in kempo.  So the application of internal arts are
there.  It really depends on your instructor how much they go into internal arts
and aspects of shaolin kempo.  Both my original and my current insturctor were
learned in internal arts.
As you go through the blackbelt ranks it might be beneficial for you to visit a
tai chi seminar or class with a good instructor to learn how your movements
translate.  and with this information you can improve your martial arts ability.

So- Yes.

Did that help?



--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <plante.scott@...> wrote:
>
> I am a brown belt in shaolin kempo and have been practising the art for about
six years, and believe me I have nothing against training but???
> Does shaolin kempo at one point concentrate more on inner strenght than
exterior stenght. Such as Chi?
>

I am a brown belt in shaolin kempo and have been practising the art for about
six years, and believe me I have nothing against training but???
Does shaolin kempo at one point concentrate more on inner strenght than exterior
stenght. Such as Chi?

I too am seeing lots of new schools. Before they were TKD or a freestyle karate.
Now as you mentioned, they are MMA with jujutsu and boxing. Unlike your
situation, I haven't seen anything else.

I started wondering if I was going to get new students with this new fad. Too
much traditional training for the MMA sport I thought. Well, the increase in
numbers last month helped me feel better. There are those who still want to
learn the art, not just how to win a competitive sport.

Sifu Bry
goldenleopard.info

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> It seems that even in the economy we have- McDojos seem to be popping up all
around me.  Mixed martial arts is a big push right now and so one of the two
that opened within a half mile are one of those and the other is a non-descript
"martial arts" school.  Are any of you seeing similar occurrences?
>

It seems that even in the economy we have- McDojos seem to be popping up all
around me.  Mixed martial arts is a big push right now and so one of the two
that opened within a half mile are one of those and the other is a non-descript
"martial arts" school.  Are any of you seeing similar occurrences?

The group has been very quiet for a long time so I thought I'd pass something by
you all.

I want to interview some SKK students and instructors for my blog
(http://www.goldenleopard.info) to show others that our community is strong and
vibrant. Would anyone here be willing to do an interview with me either via
chat/email, recorded skype or recorded phone? I would provide the questions
ahead of time so you can think about the answers.

If you are willing, please contact me off-list at my email address.

I have a list of questions I'm considering but if anyone has questions they'd
like to hear the answers to send them my way.

Thanks,

Sifu Bry

Well, I've been in Iraq for almost a year... not too fun here.

If so,  Just send me an email.

Kevin

Hello Everyone,

It has been mighty quiet here.

News on my behalf, I will be heading overseas under military
obligations within the next few months.  I hope to train hard over
there on my time off (however limited).  Please keep this group going
while im gone, i'll check in to see how things are progressing when i
can.

Tim

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> good morning I hope everyone is enjoying their summer.  I am
planning to take on some students of my own... away from my masters
dojo.  I was hopeing you could share some of your experiences.... the
best way you think to start, your own mistakes, important things to
remember.
>

Good luck. I would caution against 'taking' students away from your
master's dojo since that is rude and disrespectful. Rather find your
own new students -- this act honors your teachers.

Find a location that can handle your regular schedule, both in
instruction space and traffic/parking space. Use flyers to gather your
first few and then have your students help you find others.

Get a business license and follow the rules of running a business in
your area. That may include sales taxes, insurance and zoning. When
you get big enough to need help, get it. That's been my mistake
countless times before. A "one man show" soon falters.

Most importantly, learn how to be a great teacher. Knowing kempo does
not make you an instantly great teacher. Teaching is an art form unto
itself.

Hope this helps.

Sifu bry

good morning I hope everyone is enjoying their summer.  I am planning to take on
some students of my own... away from my masters dojo.  I was hopeing you could
share some of your experiences.... the best way you think to start, your own
mistakes, important things to remember.

thanks all

Hope everyone had a great day and ate way too much!  Whether up here in
NJ hasn't been that great but oh well...  Well, off for training

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, dimmaktimmah <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Whats going on this Summer? Anyone having conferences etc...?
>

Well, right now I'm catching up on work after a busy semester, and catching up
on workouts.
Just to make sure I don't relax, I'm studying for the NSCA CSCS exam, which I'm
scheduled to
take in August.

In July, we kempo folk from the New England area are having a little 'get
together' to merely
put faces with names - just a social gathering.

I just had a student fly up from North Carolina for two (very full) days of
training while the
rest his family went to a local reunion. That was fun.

I don't know if we're hosting any seminars this summer. Still in the catching up
phase.

Matt

Good day all,

I have been running around like crazy... I am working full time
taking classes for my Masters, trying to make it to the gym, and of
course... kempo :-D.  I met a TKD guy at my gym who claims there is
just no time to get to formal classes and because he would only be
able to attend sporadically he doesn't want to be paying a hefty
monthly sum.

When i first started kempo the instructor had us pay per class,
before the class began.  He wasn't strict about when you paid (if you
didn't have the cash on you that day he wouldn't kick u out).  He
didn't own his own school and paid for the use of the local
gymnastics studio.

It becomes hard, I imagine, to have students pay per class because we
all have overhead and being able to forecast how much money you
should be getting greatly assists in day to day business.  So, what
about the TKD and those that just want to walk into a school where
they practice, smack a few bills on the counter and get a lesson?
What is the best way to help him out?

Seeya on the beach!

Tim

Whats going on this Summer? Anyone having conferences etc...?

I just wanted to let you all know that new members' messages will be
monitored until they posted something interesting about Kempo. So far,
the last three new members were spammers, caught by this method before
they bothered us. They have been removed.

So if you invite someone to join our SK group, just let them know that
their first few messages will be delayed as I review them for content.
After the review, they'll be free to post normally.

Sifu Bry

Folks asked for video, and I said 'later, I don't have the bandwidth or
storage.'

I was wrong.

Ken Warner of Evolution Karate has stepped up with an incredibly generous offer
I couldn't
refuse. He's providing video and bandwidth. If you like the movies, please
consider
purchasing his dvds for the high resolution versions. So far, 6 kata and Swift
Tigers are up
with text, Tai Sing Mon, Hansuki, ShotonQua, Branches of the Falling Pine, Lost
Leopard,
1000 Buddhas, Invincible Wall, Five Dragons Face the Four Winds, Nengli North
and Nengli
South and the Snake are up with just video. I'll get the text up as soon as I'm
able. I'm
grateful for the support, and am stunned with how far this project has come in
less than a
year.

The videos take  a moment to load. I'll streamline the pages when I get the
time.

Enjoy.

Matt

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy Schumacher" <dojo@...> wrote:
> Of course, as these are only my observations, I could be wrong about
> all of it.
> Eddy Schumacher

Eddy,

Thanks for your observations. They are great.

Bryan

Well, in brief, and since I have some bit of experience in all
three, my surface observation is that Kenpo emphasizes hand flow for
multiple striking, Shaolin Kempo uses a similar concept of taking
advantage of all angles but includes foot techniques and takedowns
in the flow, where Shaolin uses the whole body in continuous flow.
To elaborate - Kenpo strikes primarily with hand weapons (elbows
included) and can do so spontaneously from a variety of angles.
Indeed, the theory of defensive and offensive angles is the
foundation of Parker's "universal pattern" which is symbolized in
the Kenpo crest with the circle marked in eight sections.  while
some joint manipulations, kicks and takedowns are included, they are
the finish after a variety of hand strikes more often than not.
Shaolin Kempo doesn't stay so exclusively with hand strikes to
manipulate the body but rather takes advantage of grabbing the
opponent at the soonest opportunity to maneuver the opponent into an
advantageous position for the desired strike or kick, making it less
reliant on a stationary opponent to deliver the multiple
strikes/kicks, as the opponent is physically manipulated at the
soonest opportunity, THEN struck or felled.
Shaolin uses the whole body to strike.  For instance, if my punch
misses because my opponent bobs or weaves inside my  reach, my
extended arm can still strike hin with the forearm, shoulder, bicep,
whatever.  Picture the trivk of holding a ball in you hand palm up
with the elbow bent, releasing the ball and extending your arm to
pop the hall into the air with the inside of the elbow joint.
Meanwhile, the stance itself or the foot movement from one stance to
another IS the takedown, rather than being the set-up for the
takedown.  It is one more step advanced from Shaolin Kempo in
economy of motion.  You'll find similar whole body applications in
Feeding Crane Kung Fu, one of many other Shaoling derivatives that
has become popular in the last decade or so.  It is more "core"
oriented than "limb" oriented.
Of course, as these are only my observations, I could be wrong about
all of it.
Eddy Schumacher


> How different are the shaolin principles differnt from the shaolin
kempo
> principles?
>
> Respectfully,
> marlon
>
>
> On 3/20/07, Eddy Schumacher <dojo@...> wrote:
> >
> >   Hey there. Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
> > group. My name is Eddy Schumacher. (I don't like hiding behind
> > anonymous screen names. If you can't be honest about who you are,
> > what's the point?)
> > I started my martial arts study as a Boy Scout when my Scout
Master,
> > who had lived with his family on Okinawa, started showing me some
> > joint manipulation, striking conditioning, nunchaku, and other
> > stuff. Nothing formal. But I'd always had an interest from
reading
> > ads in comic books to looking up karate related materials in the
> > school library.
> > But it wastn't until I turned 21 that I began formal study (even
> > though as a Mormon missionary in Argentina I would occasionally
> > break boards and bricks, or do little demonstarations for the
> > curious country folk). At that point, 1982, I enrolled in Fred
> > Villari's in Provo, Utah while attending BYU. In 1984, a green
> > belt, I left Utah, and eventually found an offshoot group in KY,
> > under Jim Wright and his pupils who'd left Jim Brassard in MA.
Was
> > almost to black and on the instructor track, when I went back to
> > Utah and began teaching under the Villari banner in 1987.
> > When the Villari/USSD split occurred, (and I was at a meeting in
San
> > Clemente when Villari went off about the business woes of running
> > two separate coastal operations and constantly travelling to
monitor
> > New England and the West Coast, and Charlie Mattera began the
move
> > toward separation.) I went with USSD.
> > I eventually left USSD, came back, and split permanently in 1993.
> > Since then I still practice Kempo and Kempo principles, but have
> > primarily taugh Okinawan karate. I earned a Black Belt in
Shotokan
> > under one of Funakoshi's direct students, and have trained with
> > Shaolin monks for whom I helped get visas to the US. Still, Kempo
> > concepts are the core or template of how I interpret all the
orhter
> > arts I've been exposed to. You can, if you care to, access a more
> > complete account at my web site,
> > http://www.russbo.com/seidokan/seidokan.htm
> > or see my current pursuit of physical training at
> > http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kinkoshinkai
> > I've read a couple years worth of old messages, and looked at a
few
> > web sites of members. It seems to be a decent group of folks
doing
> > what they love the best they can, and while the posts seem
> > infrequent, I think it will be worth-while to be here.
> > Looking forward to the exchanges of info.
> > Eddy Schumacher
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Forever a student.
> Study, practice and share what you have:  This is the way of
mastery...and
> have fun along the way.
> If only you could love enough, you would be the happiest most
powerful being
> in all the worlds!
> www.shaolinkempo.ca
>

--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "Eddy Schumacher" <dojo@...> wrote:
>
> Hey there.  Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
> group.  My name is Eddy Schumacher.  (I don't like hiding behind

Welcome Eddy. I hope you enjoy the group. The traffic goes from mildly
active to down right deserted. But the content is always good, minus
the spam that creeps in.

Sifu Bry

Hey there.  Thought I'd introduce myself since I'm new to the
group.  My name is Eddy Schumacher.  (I don't like hiding behind
anonymous screen names.  If you can't be honest about who you are,
what's the point?)
I started my martial arts study as a Boy Scout when my Scout Master,
who had lived with his family on Okinawa, started showing me some
joint manipulation, striking conditioning, nunchaku, and other
stuff.  Nothing formal.  But I'd always had an interest from reading
ads in comic books to looking up karate related materials in the
school library.
But it wastn't until I turned 21 that I began formal study (even
though as a Mormon missionary in Argentina I would occasionally
break boards and bricks, or do little demonstarations for the
curious country folk).  At that point, 1982, I enrolled in Fred
Villari's in Provo, Utah while attending BYU.  In 1984, a green
belt, I left Utah, and eventually found an offshoot group in KY,
under Jim Wright and his pupils who'd left Jim Brassard in MA.  Was
almost to black and on the instructor track, when I went back to
Utah and began teaching under the Villari banner in 1987.
When the Villari/USSD split occurred, (and I was at a meeting in San
Clemente when Villari went off about the business woes of running
two separate coastal operations and constantly travelling to monitor
New England and the West Coast, and Charlie Mattera began the move
toward separation.) I went with USSD.
I eventually left USSD, came back, and split permanently in 1993.
Since then I still practice Kempo and Kempo principles, but have
primarily taugh Okinawan karate.  I earned a Black Belt in Shotokan
under one of Funakoshi's direct students, and have trained with
Shaolin monks for whom I helped get visas to the US.  Still, Kempo
concepts are the core or template of how I interpret all the orhter
arts I've been exposed to.  You can, if you care to, access a more
complete account at my web site,
http://www.russbo.com/seidokan/seidokan.htm
or see my current pursuit of physical training at
http://bodyspace.bodybuilding.com/kinkoshinkai
I've read a couple years worth of old messages, and looked at a few
web sites of members.  It seems to be a decent group of folks doing
what they love the best they can, and while the posts seem
infrequent, I think it will be worth-while to be here.
Looking forward to the exchanges of info.
Eddy Schumacher

I have been studying martial arts since the age of 16, when I was in
boarding school and I am now 40, going on 41 :)
I started with Judo and Savate (being French it was an easy one) at the same
time and I had the opportunity combining the two in a fight early on at the
boarding school I was... You know the older ones picking on the youngest and
being one of the youngest and tallest I was an easy target.
Anyway I moved to the US in 1991 and found my way to kempo in 2000 and I
have not stopped since.
I teach at my instructor's school and also at a friend's school in WA state.

-- Fabien


--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "dragonswordkata" <dragonswordkata@...>
wrote:
>
> Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.
>

I honestly don't recall when my first experience in martial arts began.  it was
a short period when I was six or seven... my mothers way of giving me something
constructive to do while she ran errands.  I began shaolin kempo cerca 1994.  In
1998 I left my first SHAOLIN KEMPO  school to attend college where I also
experienced a few other martial arts including kung fu and capoeira.
I returned to shaolin kempo a few years ago and hardly needed a refresher due to
my diligent practice in absentia.  I am currently an instructor at my school and
love every moment of it.
www.njkarate.com


--- In shaolinkempo@yahoogroups.com, "dragonswordkata" <dragonswordkata@...>
wrote:
>
> Just curious about this? I have been studying over 20 years.
>