SFRandos,

Thanks to some help from Joe Gross, it looks like my stalled requests
to bulk-migrate the subscription list from the old Yahoo group to the
new Google group finally got approval last night.  This means that
some of you may have received multiple/duplicate notifications about
and/or invitations to the new list -- if so, I apologize for that, and
please ignore those if you've already subscribed to the new list.  You
can check to see if you're subscribed on the new list at
http://groups.google.com/group/sfrandon/members.  There are now 109
people signed up at the new Google group, and I think we had over 140
members of the Yahoo group, so there are still ~30 people who haven't
transfered yet.  If you're one of those folks, and you're having
problems getting signed up on the new list, please email me directly
and I'll sort things out.

Today I'm going to disable posting to the old list, so please start
freely using the new Google Groups list.  Please update any address
books to use the new address:  sfrandon@googlegroups.com.  There may
be some slight delay in emails as I moderate some of the new postings,
but that will be temporary.

As always, please email me directly with any problems.

Thanks for your patience!

-Jim G, SFR List Admin

--
jimg at yojimg dot net

Folks,

I am still having problems with sending everyone an invitation to the
new Google group.  I have tried to direct-add the membership list,
which would automatically subscribe everyone to the new list.  I have
also tried to send everyone an invitation to sign up at the new list.
In both cases, Google is blocking and holding my request, claiming
that since I'm submitting 100+ email addresses, they need to manually
approve things to prevent any spam.  While they claim that this
process should take 1-2 business days, my requests have been sitting
there for over a week with no action and no status updates.  Needless
to say, this is frustrating!

Since things aren't moving on Google's end, I'm inviting you all to
subscribe to the new list in one of two ways:

1) If you currently have a Gmail/Google account, please visit

   http://groups.google.com/group/sfrandon

And click "Join this Group"


2) If you don't have a Gmail/Google account and don't wish to create
one, please send an email to

   sfrandon+subscribe@googlegroups.com

from your current email account.



**** NOTE: If you've already subscribed to the new SFR list at Google,
please ignore this message, and thanks! ****


Sorry for all the confusion!

-Jim G, SFR List Admin


--
jimg at yojimg dot net

Out of 147 subscribers, only eight have signed up on the new Google Groups list
so far, so I'm resending my previous message in case some folks missed it...?

Please read my note below!

Thanks,
-Jim G, SF Randonneurs list admin


--- In sfrandon@yahoogroups.com, SFRandonneurs List Admin <yojimg@...> wrote:

Fellow SFR Members and Friends:

Several weeks ago I asked for feedback on continuing to host our list
at Yahoo! vs. moving it to Google Groups.  The handful of feedback I
received was nearly unanimous for migrating the list over to Google,
so I will now begin that process.

I have created the new Google Group for the SF Randon list, and it is
available at this web address:

  http://groups.google.com/group/sfrandon

Over the next few days, I will be sending out invites to all current
SF Randon list subscribers to join the new list [Note: you should all have
received your invitation to the new list by now!].  All you should have to do to
complete the migration is to accept the invitation, stop using the old Yahoo!
email address, and begin using the new email address for the list:

  sfrandon@googlegroups.com

On September 1st 2009, I will DISABLE the old list at Yahoo!, and then
begin the process of moving all of the archived postings from there
over to the new Google Group.  After successful completion of that
transfer, I will finally delete the Yahoo! group.

If there are any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to
contact me.

Thanks,
-Jim G, SF Randon List Admin

--- End forwarded message ---

Happy Monday all,

Next Saturday the 29th, a friend from work who is interested in
Randonneuring and I will be riding the route of the -postponed for
now- Populaire, any interest in joining us? We are planing on starting
at 8:00 at the bridge. The ~75 miles route is very familiar to most
riders:
- San Francisco (Strauss statue at the GG Bridge South end by the
visitors center)
- The usual bike route way to Fairfax.
- Sir Francis Drake (SFD) to Olema and then Hwy 1 to Point Reyes
Station.  (Maybe a stop there for baked goods at the Bovine bakery)
- Hwy1, Point Reyes/Petaluma rd and then to Nicasio.
- SFD to Fairfax and return to SF via the the bike route.

If there is interest maybe we can stop somewhere on the return leg for
lunch. Perhaps Fish in Sausalito or any other bike friendly place
along the way or in the city? Hope some of you joining us and also
bring your randonneuring curious friends.

Carlos

Some of you might have met Emily O'Brien at the 508 , PBP or BMB. She rides a
fixie! Good story of her ride at:
http://www.emilysdomain.org/bayern1200k/index.html
Enjoy!

This may be of interest to some of you. There is a new San Mateo
County bike map you can download (2 files). Large files but they have
decent detail or you can buy a hard copy for $1, that is cheap.
http://www.ccag.ca.gov/plans_reports.html
From a Marin bicycle coalition email:

" Produced by the City/County Association of Governments (C/CAG) of
San Mateo County, this map includes designated bikeways outlined by
classification, as well as unofficial routes suggested by bicyclists.
This is a useful tool for planning bike commutes to work, or any other
bike trip.

The easiest way to get the map is to go online, where you can view and
print specific pages that you need, or all pages. You’ll find the map
on the C/CAG website (scroll down to find the bike maps). Redwood City
bicyclists are also invited to purchase the map for $1 right at City
Hall, 1017 Middlefield Road. Other cities on the peninsula also have
copies of the map. Or, you can purchase the map at the C/CAG offices
in Redwood City at 555 County Center, 5th Floor (C/CAG’s phone number
is 599-1406). "

Also other maps that may be of interest to SFR are the FREE (as in
beer) Oregon Bike maps
http://www.oregon.gov/ODOT/HWY/BIKEPED/maps.shtml. Just request a copy
and they send it the snailmail way. I used the old version of the
Oregon Coast Bike route years ago on a Seattle-SF tour and it made the
logistics of touring the Oregon coast very simple. The downloadable
version is formatted to print to letter size paper, the one they mail
is a full size map, both contain the same information.

Carlos

Fantastic ride and a wonderful report!

--- In sfrandon@yahoogroups.com, Massimiliano Poletto <sfrandon@...> wrote:
>
> Life got busy after Gold Rush, but finally I wrote up my experience:
> http://maxp.net/bike/rando/2009-grr-1200k
>
> Hope to see you all soon on the road.
>
> max
>

Max,

Great report, thanks for sharing. That was a good read.
Congratulations again on a great ride.
Also great photos by Don Bennett. (click on any of the photos in Max's
report to see more.)

Carlos


On Thu, Aug 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Massimiliano Poletto<sfrandon@...> wrote:
> Life got busy after Gold Rush, but finally I wrote up my experience:
> http://maxp.net/bike/rando/2009-grr-1200k
>
> Hope to see you all soon on the road.
>
> max
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> sfrandon :: San Francisco Randonneurs
> http://sfrandonneurs.org
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

John Potis alerted me to this:
http://www1.pressdemocrat.com/article/20090818/ARTICLES/908189930/1334/NEWS?Titl\
e=A-boulevard-for-bikes

This is the mostly residential section in Santa Rosa just after we've
negotiated the turns through downtown. How will this change our
experience on the 300km? Probably not at all, but ...

rob

Life got busy after Gold Rush, but finally I wrote up my experience:
http://maxp.net/bike/rando/2009-grr-1200k

Hope to see you all soon on the road.

max

Hi Folks--
The annual RUSA Board elections are upon us. I hope you'll take the time to
vote. Full info and voting info can be found at:    www.rusa.org

Bill Bryant

RUSA members,

If you haven't seen the reminder in the recently mailed RUSA
magazine, please visit www.rusa.org/vote.html and consider the
candidates currently up for election to the Board.

rob hawks
sfr rba

Fellow SFR Members and Friends:

Several weeks ago I asked for feedback on continuing to host our list
at Yahoo! vs. moving it to Google Groups.  The handful of feedback I
received was nearly unanimous for migrating the list over to Google,
so I will now begin that process.

I have created the new Google Group for the SF Randon list, and it is
available at this web address:

 http://groups.google.com/group/sfrandon

Over the next few days, I will be sending out invites to all current
SF Randon list subscribers to join the new list.  All you should have
to do to complete the migration is to accept the invitation, stop
using the old Yahoo! email address, and begin using the new email
address for the list:

 sfrandon@googlegroups.com

On September 1st 2009, I will disable the old list at Yahoo!, and then
begin the process of moving all of the archived postings from there
over to the new Google Group.  After successful completion of that
transfer, I will finally delete the Yahoo! group.

If there are any questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to
contact me (jimg@...).

Thanks,
-Jim G, SF Randon List Admin

Nice report Tom. Hum, a gravel road segment, how long was it and how
did  riders receive it?

Carlos

On Sat, Aug 15, 2009 at 10:44 AM, Tom Russell<slrnin616-bike@...> wrote:
>
>
>   I completed a 400 k brevet last  Saturday in a time of 24:30, which was my
> slowest time ever. About a dozen riders were at the motel for the start,
> including Albert Kong from El Dorado Hills. Philippe Andre was the organizer
> and Michael Wolf was responsible for the route.
>   The sun rose red through the cloud layers as we left our motel in
> McMinnville, Oregon, southwest of Portland,  and headed into the coastal
> mountains for a 14 mile climb on a small paved road followed by a one lane
> paved road that climbed  4 more miles up to the first control. We were then
> able to enjoy  a 14 mile downhill back into the Willamette Valley, where we
> headed south for two more excursions into the mountains that involved a
> gravel road and two 900' climbs. I got yelled at by motorists, and along the
> way passed another rider who was fixing a wheel with a broken spoke. Aside
> from the mountain climbs, this was a rolling course reminiscent of PBP,
> through forest and farm land, .
>   By nightfall I was past Alsea Falls and back in the Willamette Valley,
> circling around south of Albany over to the east side of the valley,
> Another fellow asked to join me for the return through the night, and a
> little later the rider with the broken spoke joined us, and we set out into
> the darkness. The moon rose  and  looked remarkably like the sun had that
> morning: reddish behind cloud strata. More climbing followed. When in
> Oregon, watch out for any road that has "gap" in it's name. It seemed
> like we only went uphill for all 24 hours. One of the  guys couldn't
> continue   and at his insistence, we left him laying on the side of a
> side road about 100' off of a highway. Now I was just with Steve from
> Seattle who had never done a 400 k before, a man probably 5 years younger
> than myself. The night was eventful; Steve ran head on into a ferret and we
> had several encounters with racoons and opossums. But we arrived in
> Brownsville about 11:00 PM where Steve's family was waiting to see him at
> the control. From there we went to Salem and got in before 4:00 and got a
> receipt from a minimart.
>   Steve and I passed through  the deserted downtown area of Salem  (the
> state capital), then crossed the Willamette River on the nice pedestrian
> bridge, and headed north for the final 30 miles. Dawn dissolved the darkness
> and we navigated our way through unmarked rural intersections. Steve was
> amazed that I got us back to the motel, but fortunately Bobbe and I had
> driven the return route the day before.
>   All in all, it was a very challenging brevet, but offered the opportunity
> to ride wilderness routes and rural roads that I would otherwise never know
> existed. The fellow that we left behind in the night managed to finish
> before the closing time, and was OK, although exhausted. Both he and I had
> not ridden much since the Goldrush. I never recovered from the initial climb
> and this is what many of the other riders reported. The organizer said that
> he was ready to give up the sport because of the terrible condition that the
> returning riders were all in due to the grueling nature of the course. An
> interesting aside : Two of the riders, older gentlemen,  had ridden from
> Olympia, Washington to do the brevet, and had camped the night before riding
> to the start! I was ahead of these two at the first control but then they
> passed me and I could not catch them  since they felt so light without their
> panniers.
>   Bobbe and I stayed on and toured the Columbia Gorge as well as  the Three
> Capes loop on the coast. We rode a delightful course to see the covered
> bridges of Scio, then out of Roseburg rode an Umpqua river loop. Farther
> south, in California again, we rode a flat course in the magnificent vast
> valley by Fort Jones and Etna, near the Marble Mountains.
>
>   My take home from this is: Don't be a couch potato for three weeks before
> doing a 400k.
> Best of luck,
> Tom
>
>

Speaking of Oregon 600k... I'm considering a jaunt for the 8/29 event.  I have a
tiny window in my schedule to work this in.  But it will be one heck of a drive
leaving early from work on 8/28.

--- In sfrandon@yahoogroups.com, "jack_holmgren" <jackholmgren@...> wrote:
>
> Great report.  I've done a 600K put on by the Oregon Randos and it was great
in the same ways.  Nice riding up there.
>
> --- In sfrandon@yahoogroups.com, Tom Russell <slrnin616-bike@> wrote:
> >
> >   I completed a 400 k brevet last  Saturday in a time of 24:30, which was my
slowest time ever. About a dozen riders were at the motel for the start,
including Albert Kong from El Dorado Hills. Philippe Andre was the organizer
and Michael Wolf was responsible for the route. 
> >   The sun rose red through the cloud layers as we left our motel in
McMinnville, Oregon, southwest of Portland,  and headed into the coastal
mountains for a 14 mile climb on a small paved road followed by a one lane paved
road that climbed  4 more miles up to the first control. We were then able to
enjoy  a 14 mile downhill back into the Willamette Valley, where we headed south
for two more excursions into the mountains that involved a gravel road and two
900' climbs. I got yelled at by motorists, and along the way passed another
rider who was fixing a wheel with a broken spoke. Aside from the mountain
climbs, this was a rolling course reminiscent of PBP, through forest and farm
land, .
> >   By nightfall I was past Alsea Falls and back in the Willamette Valley,
circling around south of Albany over to the east side of the valley,   Another
fellow asked to join me for the return through the night, and a little later
the rider with the broken spoke joined us, and we set out into the darkness. The
moon rose  and  looked remarkably like the sun had that morning: reddish behind
cloud strata. More climbing followed. When in Oregon, watch out for any road
that has "gap" in it's name. It seemed like we only went uphill for all 24
hours. One of the  guys couldn't continue   and at his insistence, we left him
laying on the side of a side road about 100' off of a highway. Now I was just
with Steve from Seattle who had never done a 400 k before, a man probably 5
years younger than myself. The night was eventful; Steve ran head on into a
ferret and we had several encounters with racoons and opossums. But we arrived
in Brownsville about
> >  11:00 PM where Steve's family was waiting to see him at the control. From
there we went to Salem and got in before 4:00 and got a receipt from a
minimart. 
> >   Steve and I passed through  the deserted downtown area of Salem  (the
state capital), then crossed the Willamette River on the nice pedestrian bridge,
and headed north for the final 30 miles. Dawn dissolved the darkness and we
navigated our way through unmarked rural intersections. Steve was amazed that I
got us back to the motel, but fortunately Bobbe and I had driven the return
route the day before.
> >   All in all, it was a very challenging brevet, but offered the opportunity
to ride wilderness routes and rural roads that I would otherwise never know
existed. The fellow that we left behind in the night managed to finish before
the closing time, and was OK, although exhausted. Both he and I had not ridden
much since the Goldrush. I never recovered from the initial climb and this is
what many of the other riders reported. The organizer said that he was ready to
give up the sport because of the terrible condition that the returning riders
were all in due to the grueling nature of the course. An interesting aside : Two
of the riders, older gentlemen,  had ridden from Olympia, Washington to do the
brevet, and had camped the night before riding to the start! I was ahead of
these two at the first control but then they passed me and I could not catch
them  since they felt so light without their panniers.
> >   Bobbe and I stayed on and toured the Columbia Gorge as well as  the Three
Capes loop on the coast. We rode a delightful course to see the covered bridges
of Scio, then out of Roseburg rode an Umpqua river loop. Farther south, in
California again, we rode a flat course in the magnificent vast valley by Fort
Jones and Etna, near the Marble Mountains.
> >    
> >   My take home from this is: Don't be a couch potato for three weeks before
doing a 400k.
> > Best of luck,
> > Tom
> >
>

Great report.  I've done a 600K put on by the Oregon Randos and it was great in
the same ways.  Nice riding up there.

--- In sfrandon@yahoogroups.com, Tom Russell <slrnin616-bike@...> wrote:
>
>   I completed a 400 k brevet last  Saturday in a time of 24:30, which was my
slowest time ever. About a dozen riders were at the motel for the start,
including Albert Kong from El Dorado Hills. Philippe Andre was the organizer
and Michael Wolf was responsible for the route. 
>   The sun rose red through the cloud layers as we left our motel in
McMinnville, Oregon, southwest of Portland,  and headed into the coastal
mountains for a 14 mile climb on a small paved road followed by a one lane paved
road that climbed  4 more miles up to the first control. We were then able to
enjoy  a 14 mile downhill back into the Willamette Valley, where we headed south
for two more excursions into the mountains that involved a gravel road and two
900' climbs. I got yelled at by motorists, and along the way passed another
rider who was fixing a wheel with a broken spoke. Aside from the mountain
climbs, this was a rolling course reminiscent of PBP, through forest and farm
land, .
>   By nightfall I was past Alsea Falls and back in the Willamette Valley,
circling around south of Albany over to the east side of the valley,   Another
fellow asked to join me for the return through the night, and a little later
the rider with the broken spoke joined us, and we set out into the darkness. The
moon rose  and  looked remarkably like the sun had that morning: reddish behind
cloud strata. More climbing followed. When in Oregon, watch out for any road
that has "gap" in it's name. It seemed like we only went uphill for all 24
hours. One of the  guys couldn't continue   and at his insistence, we left him
laying on the side of a side road about 100' off of a highway. Now I was just
with Steve from Seattle who had never done a 400 k before, a man probably 5
years younger than myself. The night was eventful; Steve ran head on into a
ferret and we had several encounters with racoons and opossums. But we arrived
in Brownsville about
>  11:00 PM where Steve's family was waiting to see him at the control. From
there we went to Salem and got in before 4:00 and got a receipt from a
minimart. 
>   Steve and I passed through  the deserted downtown area of Salem  (the state
capital), then crossed the Willamette River on the nice pedestrian bridge, and
headed north for the final 30 miles. Dawn dissolved the darkness and we
navigated our way through unmarked rural intersections. Steve was amazed that I
got us back to the motel, but fortunately Bobbe and I had driven the return
route the day before.
>   All in all, it was a very challenging brevet, but offered the opportunity to
ride wilderness routes and rural roads that I would otherwise never know
existed. The fellow that we left behind in the night managed to finish before
the closing time, and was OK, although exhausted. Both he and I had not ridden
much since the Goldrush. I never recovered from the initial climb and this is
what many of the other riders reported. The organizer said that he was ready to
give up the sport because of the terrible condition that the returning riders
were all in due to the grueling nature of the course. An interesting aside : Two
of the riders, older gentlemen,  had ridden from Olympia, Washington to do the
brevet, and had camped the night before riding to the start! I was ahead of
these two at the first control but then they passed me and I could not catch
them  since they felt so light without their panniers.
>   Bobbe and I stayed on and toured the Columbia Gorge as well as  the Three
Capes loop on the coast. We rode a delightful course to see the covered bridges
of Scio, then out of Roseburg rode an Umpqua river loop. Farther south, in
California again, we rode a flat course in the magnificent vast valley by Fort
Jones and Etna, near the Marble Mountains.
>    
>   My take home from this is: Don't be a couch potato for three weeks before
doing a 400k.
> Best of luck,
> Tom
>

This a pretty funny video if you are a cyclist.

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vn29DvMITu4


Sent from my iPhone

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 11:37 AM, Greg Merritt<greg.merritt@...> wrote:
> I see -- thanks, Rob.
>
> Yes, it does seem to me like this sort of event *should* be really
> popular... I wonder what could be the magic hook?

I think we should charge $65 and serve BBQ at the end.  That seems to
work to attract 2500+ riders to the Marin Century.

Yes, I'm kidding (mostly).


-Jim G

--
jimg at yojimg dot net

Hello,

To date, the only responses I have received to this posting are from
Bruce Berg who
reminded me that he had already committed to coordinating the SFR
Fleche event for 2010
(as well as working on a special project for SFR), and from Mark
Behning who confirmed
that he will have far less time to repeat as VC and also wants to ride
the events for a change.

The 2009 brevet schedule was an expansion over years past. We had more
rides than
ever before, and more support than before. SFR needs a few more people
willing to
pitch in so that we can maintain what we have and begin to further
enhance what we
offer.

The work that the Volunteer Coordinator does has a huge impact on the sucess
of SFR events, and the work load can be spread out so as not to cause a huge
dent in one's personal time.

Please consider being the 2010 Volunteer coordinator, or if you can
commit to being
the coordinator for one or a set of specific events, that will make
the task even more
manageable. If you a) know a lot of riders already, or b) would like
to get to know
more, this is the job for you.

rob hawks
sfr rba


On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 2:13 PM, Rob Hawks<rob.hawks@...> wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> When I took on the job of being RBA I knew I'd need some help. Mark
> Behning stepped in my first year and agreed to be Volunteer
> Coordinator for one year. Instead, he performed the task for two
> years. I'm thinking I better not push my luck and beg him to do this
> one more year, so I'm going to the list to ask for volunteers for
> Volunteer Coordinator. In a nutshell, the job would entail someone
> arranging for the volunteers needed for every brevet we hold through
> the year, ensuring back up staffing as well.
> This frees me to concentrate on working out the ride schedule, handle
> insurance, verify cards, submit results, manage finances and a number
> of other tasks related to hosting brevets.
>
> Next year, the plan is to list a Winter/Spring series of 200, 300,
> 400km brevets, plus a Fleche; a summer Populaire, and a Fall series of
> at least 200km rides.
> If you think you can help out in this regard, please let me know. If
> you want to do this but can only do part of the year, let me know,
> there maybe someone else
> that could cover the other part of the year. If you have any
> questions, please ask. Thanks.
>
> rob hawks
> sfr rba
>

I see -- thanks, Rob.

Yes, it does seem to me like this sort of event *should* be really
popular... I wonder what could be the magic hook?

I'll definitely look forward to talking it up to non-brevet cyclists I
know, if the starts align for one to happen.  It seems like it would
be really fun.

-Greg

The original wording was mine so I should respond here, and I'm
replying in general, not specificly to Greg.

I used the phrasing I used because I did not want to host this
ride on my own without any help. My original posting was meant to
get some commitment of help. To date, in my opinion too few people
have stepped up, and they are people for the most part who have *already*
done *a lot* for SFR.

At this point I think I've gotten an answer to the question of holding
this populaire.
This concept to attract new riders to randonneuring does not seem to be doing
as well in attracting the numbers as our regularly scheduled 200kms.
The idea also
does not seem to strike a chord in terms of volunteering. People seem
to be a bit
more interested in volunteering for the 200kms than for this Populaire
ride, and in general
don't seem to be interested in this ride on this date.

It may be that the time frame was too short to put this on, and either
ZERO response, or
a much bigger response would have allowed me to push forward with a
more clear cut sense
of purpose.

I'm discussing the idea of still holding this ride with the volunteer
who committed the most
effort and time, but at a later date with more time to plan and recruit.

rob

On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 10:53 AM, Greg Merritt<greg.merritt@...> wrote:
>
>
> Hm, I guess I missed that it was ever actually firmed up as a date --
> the previous postings to mailing lists seemed to be very, very
> conditional with descriptions like "planning on hosting" and "the plan
> as of now."
>
> I don't see it on the Web site, and I don't think I've seen a start
> time or cue sheet.
>
> I "tentatively" reserved this "possible" event on my calendar some
> weeks ago, but now my calendar and my hopeful guest rider's calendar
> are looking pretty tight.
>
> Would response be better if the event were firmed up with specifics to
> advertise? A tricky thing -- a lot of effort to organize if there is
> no interest -- but I think there might be a feedback loop there
> somewhere. :)
>
> -Greg
>
>

Hm, I guess I missed that it was ever actually firmed up as a date --
the previous postings to mailing lists seemed to be very, very
conditional with descriptions like "planning on hosting" and "the plan
as of now."

I don't see it on the Web site, and I don't think I've seen a start
time or cue sheet.

I "tentatively" reserved this "possible" event on my calendar some
weeks ago, but now my calendar and my hopeful guest rider's calendar
are looking pretty tight.

Would response be better if the event were firmed up with specifics to
advertise?  A tricky thing -- a lot of effort to organize if there is
no interest -- but I think there might be a feedback loop there
somewhere. :)

-Greg

Hi all,

So far we have a low number of riders interested in the Aug 29th
Populaire. 3-4 new-to-brevets riders and 7-8 "regulars". This ~70-80
mile event, is intended to attract new riders and also a chance for
the rest of us to enjoy an easy ride (compared to other events) This
is the opportunity to bring into randonneuring those friends who have
expressed interest in "those crazy rides/races you do", so make sure
you spread the word about this FREE event. It would be a shame to have
to cancel this event due to low interest.

Should we postpone it and do it during September/October?
Should we cancel it?
Any comments are welcome.

BTW, this event's route uses the same roads most of us are familiar
with, the bike route to Fairfax, Sir Francis Drake to Point Reyes
Station, Point Reyes/Petaluma Rd to Nicasio and return to San
Francisco on the normal bike route.

Carlos



On Thu, Jul 30, 2009 at 1:29 PM, C. Duque<cduquenot@...> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am trying to get an estimate on the number of riders interested in
> doing the August 29th Populaire (Point Reyes Station and back via
> Nicasio) and after-ride picnic. This will help determine if we need to
> apply for a permit or not. Please send me answers to these questions
> off list.
>
> Are you planning to do the August 29th Populaire : (Y/N)
> Number of other riders not subscribed to this list that you know are
> doing it: (#)
> How many of you plan to attend the picnic:  (#)
> How many cars, if any, are you driving: (#)
>
> If you can, please don't modify the subject of this message so it will
> be easier to collect all responses. Also the fewer cars we drive the
> better, but we all know that right? :)
>
> Thanks,
> Carlos
>

So far we have four, and probably five riders doing the permanent next
saturday. Please let me know if you'd like to join us
some time early this week so I can get enough brevet cards.

The group I have so far will probably stay together the entire ride,
and  ride at a pace just under or close to my usual
pace. Start time is  probably 7am.

The route is one way to Davis with a return by Amtrak. If we get
enough riders we can get a group ticket which lowers the price. As a
precaution,
bring ID to buy your ticket. It's  rare, but sometimes your ID is
checked to purchase a ticket.

rob hawks

Who all is doing the Skyline Ramble, and are there any estimates on
elevation gain over the course?

Thanks,
GIno

On Sun, Aug 9, 2009 at 6:57 AM, Richard
McCaw<richard.mccaw@...> wrote:
>
>
> I haven't heard of anyone yet able to do the Santa Cruz Skyline Ramble on
> the 15th. Too early in the month for some. Bill Bryant will be back home
> Tuesday - so time for anyone to get application to him.
> Hope riders can find a perm to do this month! Let's get some more qualified
> for the R-12 award!
>
>
> Richard McCaw
> richard.mccaw@...
> Cell: 408-838-9863
> Home: 408-448-2899
>
>
>
> LinkedIn Profile: http://www.linkedin.com/in/mccaw
>
> ________________________________
> From: Rob Hawks <rob.hawks@...>
> To: SF Randonneurs <sfrandon@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Friday, August 7, 2009 2:20:12 PM
> Subject: [sfrandon] East Bay permanent ride on the 15th anyone?
>
>
>
> I'm hoping to schedule a permanent ride for August 15th and I'm
> probably going to do Bruce Berg's Berkeley to Davis ride and return by
> Amtrak to Berkeley.
> I can't make Richard's ride in the Santa Cruz mountains on that same
> day (and don't want to steal riders from that either). Let me know if
> you are
> interested in doing this permanent on August 15th and I'll begin
> arranging this. For those interested, most of the climbing on this
> ride is front loaded (meaning it gets flatter as the ride progresses),
> and portions of this route match the NightTime 200km route SFR did in
> June.
>
> rob hawks
>
>