Hi SEUU,

My first thoughts on the subject go something like this:

"More teams=more competition"

Crucially, this will increase the amount of local competition for new teams
(who might otherwise have to struggle to convince newer players to travel),
which can only be a good thing.

I can't really see any downsides to the expansion of ladder league, but I
haven't had any second thoughts really.

Enjoy the sunshine,

Manny
dD and Flump #31

>From: Felix <felix37@gmail. com>
>To: "seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com" <seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com>
>Subject: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:43:52 +0100
>
>Hi folks,
>
>There is talk currently going on about the possibility of allowing
>club teams (non-university) to compete in regional Ladder Leagues
>alongside university teams - in other words, incorporating them into
>SEULL instead of creating a separate Open Ladder League from scratch.
>
>As the university players with the most Ladder League experience, what
>are your initial thoughts about this?
>
>Felix

Thort i mite as well put my 2 cents in. Fraid they aint as
positive as manny was.

With most open teams playing in the high standard open tours and
london winter league i doubt many will want to do battle against
uni teams if they can set up a much more compitive open ladder
league. Although i guess most uni teams would want to leave the
uni ladder league system so they could play in the open ladder
league.

also it may limit ladder league events to be held on weekends as
no open teams will be able to make week day afternoons.

It could also discourage some uni players playing for there uni
teams if they can play for there open team.

If think over the past year ladder league has brought our region
together alot more. Without there wouldnt be as much intergration
between teams and regionals. I reckon we should keep it that way,
and with a region with over 20teams who needs any more
competition.

Any thorts guys and gals???

Shimmy

South East Uni Ultimate Co-ordinator

Brunel #32


From: "Emmanuel Bennett" <mannymooo@hotmail. com>
To: seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:15:52 +0000


Hi SEUU,

My first thoughts on the subject go something like this:

"More teams=more competition"

Crucially, this will increase the amount of local competition for
new teams
(who might otherwise have to struggle to convince newer players
to travel),
which can only be a good thing.

I can't really see any downsides to the expansion of ladder
league, but I
haven't had any second thoughts really.

Enjoy the sunshine,

Manny
dD and Flump #31

>From: Felix <felix37@gmail. com <mailto:felix37@gmail. com> >
>To: "seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com> "
<seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com
<mailto:seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com> >
>Subject: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:43:52 +0100
>
>Hi folks,
>
>There is talk currently going on about the possibility of
allowing
>club teams (non-university) to compete in regional Ladder
Leagues
>alongside university teams - in other words, incorporating them
into
>SEULL instead of creating a separate Open Ladder League from
scratch.
>
>As the university players with the most Ladder League
experience, what
>are your initial thoughts about this?
>
>Felix


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I'm agreeing with some of Shimmy's points I think. I think that if more teams were encorporated then it could make a weekend/weekday divide. Personally I wouldn't stop wanting to host or attend weekday fixtures if open teams were involved as wednesdays (and other weekdays) are great for students. Does this then mean there would be seperate weekend fixtures? I guess it would. However some uni's might not do weekend fixtures well or some might prefer them. Basically would this create two seperate times of the week and two seperate groups of teams? We all know how many ladder league fixtures appear in the uni timetable and some students do have to work and this is usually done at the weekend. In short would there be a uni at weekdays thing and open teams at weekends thing going on? Or am I just talking crazy and we students can't get enough ultimate and would play as much as we can get?

Jim

Roehampton Ultimate

David Gate <d_p_gate@hotmail. com> wrote:
Thort i mite as well put my 2 cents in. Fraid they aint as positive as manny was.
With most open teams playing in the high standard open tours and london winter league i doubt many will want to do battle against uni teams if they can set up a much more compitive open ladder league. Although i guess most uni teams would want to leave the uni ladder league system so they could play in the open ladder league.
also it may limit ladder league events to be held on weekends as no open teams will be able to make week day afternoons.
It could also discourage some uni players playing for there uni teams if they can play for there open team.
If think over the past year ladder league has brought our region together alot more. Without there wouldnt be as much intergration between teams and regionals. I reckon we should keep it that way, and with a region with over 20teams who needs any more competition.
Any thorts guys and gals???
Shimmy
South East Uni Ultimate Co-ordinator
Brunel #32

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From: "Emmanuel Bennett" <mannymooo@hotmail. com>
To: seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: RE: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future
Date: Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:15:52 +0000

Hi SEUU,

My first thoughts on the subject go something like this:

"More teams=more competition"

Crucially, this will increase the amount of local competition for new teams
(who might otherwise have to struggle to convince newer players to travel),
which can only be a good thing.

I can't really see any downsides to the expansion of ladder league, but I
haven't had any second thoughts really.

Enjoy the sunshine,

Manny
dD and Flump #31

>From: Felix <felix37@gmail. com>
>To: "seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com" <seuniultimate@ yahoogroups. com>
>Subject: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future
>Date: Mon, 17 Jul 2006 14:43:52 +0100
>
>Hi folks,
>
>There is talk currently going on about the possibility of allowing
>club teams (non-university) to compete in regional Ladder Leagues
>alongside university teams - in other words, incorporating them into
>SEULL instead of creating a separate Open Ladder League from scratch.
>
>As the university players with the most Ladder League experience, what
>are your initial thoughts about this?
>
>Felix


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