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Re: [seuniultimate] Ladder League's future

Hey all, great to see the discussion kicking off, please keep it up
and if you have anything to add to anyones points or disagree with
what's being said then let your voice be heard!

Addressing a few points:
I imagine next years LL events will be more themed, so as well as
specific mixed and womens events, the host teams can suggest what kind
of skill level they are hoping to attract. Geo teams (for want of a
better term for open/club teams) aren't always going to want to play
A-level games, as Gemma says, they too will have beginners staying
after the summer and will want to give them opportunities for playing
outside of training / LWL. Some, like Clapham and Fire, have players
on trial during the September-Jan period, so could be encouraged use
LL games as a test to see how their new players perform as part of a
team.
Conversely, some uni teams would love the opportunity to play highly
competitive games against the geo teams in their region. I can't
imagine a significant number of students will choose to play for their
geo team over their uni team in the weeks leading up to regionals.

Shimmy and Jim are worried about fixtures changing to weekends, or a
weekday/weekend team divide happening, but I see the inevitable rise
in weekend events as simply more opportunities for uni teams - it is
not necessary to attend each and every single LL event (although
Roehampton made a sterling effort to last year), so more fixtures
simply means more choice of who, when, and where to play. Maybe a
small uni/open divide will happen, but there will definitely be some
overlap, at least in that uni teams will travel to their local geo
club events.

Gemma makes a great point about building the connections between geo
and uni teams too - uni players will then feel more welcome at the geo
practices, and the geo teams will be more aware of the female uni
players & be able to recruit them for the Mixed Tour, as well as many
other benefits of having a strong uni/geo link like in Brighton,
Leeds, Bristol to name a few...

I also think uni teams will be far more active than geo teams, so the
league winners in the end are more likely to be students, which would
raise the profile of the University Ultimate regional/national events
somewhat!

Felix



Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:26 am

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Hi folks, There is talk currently going on about the possibility of allowing club teams (non-university) to compete in regional Ladder Leagues alongside...
Felix
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Jul 17, 2006
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Hi SEUU, My first thoughts on the subject go something like this: "More teams=more competition" Crucially, this will increase the amount of local competition...
Emmanuel Bennett
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Jul 18, 2006
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Thort i mite as well put my 2 cents in. Fraid they aint as positive as manny was. With most open teams playing in the high standard open tours and london...
David Gate
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Jul 18, 2006
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I'm agreeing with some of Shimmy's points I think. I think that if more teams were encorporated then it could make a weekend/weekday divide. Personally I...
Jim Loader
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Jul 19, 2006
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Allowing for open team inclusion should create greater diversity in the league, and give those uni's seperated by distance some incentive to play their local...
Gemma Taylor
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Jul 19, 2006
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Hey all, great to see the discussion kicking off, please keep it up and if you have anything to add to anyones points or disagree with what's being said then...
Felix
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Jul 19, 2006
10:41 am

For what it's worth I agree with Shim. I don't think there would be much of an uptake from open teams to play in ladder league with the well established LWL...
Matt Gorham
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Jul 19, 2006
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Just my two cents... as a UCL player who perhaps play more open ultimate than most Uni teams, it doesn't make much sense to me to allow open teams to play in...
M Rose
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Jul 19, 2006
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... The LL concentrates on the Autumn and Spring terms, when all the open teams have are four LWL events. The LWL is changing rapidly and will soon limit...
Felix
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Jul 19, 2006
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I agree that there may be too much pressure on uni teams to play both weekends and weekdays but surely the only way to find out who is hardcore enough to take...
Paul Hearmon
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Jul 19, 2006
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I would say that's a better idea, having different tables. There are a few things I'd like to clear up about the current rules though if this does take effect:...
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Aug 2, 2006
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Hey Pugh thanks for your well thought out comments. 1. Yep I've been considering this, but it is still a fact that plenty of uni teams have a non-university...
Felix
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Aug 2, 2006
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Can we not just have uni and open seperate? this way uni teams can still play open if they choose to. This might result in alot of the better uni first teams...
Ben Munday
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Aug 2, 2006
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... First off, although looking to the future of ladder league is incredible and something we'll need to do before another region overtakes us for coolness, ...
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Hey folks, Some of you have been keeping up with my various announcements on Britdisc and UniUltimate (for those who haven't and are curious, I've pasted a...
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