Having read all the replies to this subject:

The £20: it costs us £75 + £50 to send a team to London for the day in a
mini bus and the petrol, adding £20 which 'J' should do for free equals
£145 out of the club accounts for 1 day of ultimate. It is ultimate that
we would want to compete in so would send our best squad so not get the
full benefit of our full squad.

The SE Team: again £40 on petrol over a weekend to play open winter
league, and that is just petrol; the accommodation fees would be
greater. I understand that 'Clapham' is the epicentre of Ultimate, but
the expense for teams outside the capital is great, however anything is
better than Limited Talent for those who are committed enough.

I personally would want to send teams to as many events as possible, but
we have to look at cost, the detriment to the club practices for the
loss of those players and the overall impact on the club growth and
maturity to see if these initiatives for those out of London really
benefit SE Ultimate.

I would prefer to see weekends where we got together and did the drills
etc and then played each other in mixed games as the more beneficial.

These all need discussion within the community and our committees but
they are starting points.

Phil C
Communications Officer
Sublime Ultimate
The University of Portsmouth
-----Original Message-----
From: 'J' Hunter [mailto:ickist@...]
Sent: 08 September 2004 00:13
To: malcolm@...
Cc: uniultimate@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [uniultimate] RE: [seuniultimate] University Winter League


Hey man,

Cheers for getting that sorted [the winter league] - one thing - why the

£20? Those pitches are free and if your charging for your effort in
organising it, then thats why I'm here and I do it for free! UCL for eg
have
withdrawn from thier uni, they may be rich still, but I dont see any
reason
why anyone should have to pay anything. Sorry if I've missed something
obvious, please get back to me asap so we can get this sorted out. (I
have
copied this to Rich Hims for accountability's sake and so you know I'm
just
not going off on one!) Cheers man! Hope to hear from you soon!

'J'


>From: malcolm@...
>To: uniultimate@yahoogroups.com
>CC: seuniultimate@yahoogroups.com, londonleague@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [seuniultimate] University Winter League
>Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 12:54:03 GMT
>
>
>
>the first university winter league of the year will happen on the 13th
of
>november
>
>as last year this will be an event for the development of outdoor
>university teams and for outdoor university ultimate in general
>
>it is hosted in the SE, on Clapham Common the venue of the Open London
>Winter league but all university teams are welcome. last year OW!
joined
>some of the south east teams to battle it out on the common.
>
>the date is set for the 13th, a saturday and will only change if indoor
>qualifiers falls on the same weekend. there will be one more University
>Winter league before christmas after this one.
>
>So with the UCL outdoor beginners tournement, then the following two
>University Winter leagues we can see that outdoors ultimate is moving
on
>leaps and bounds as was hoped at the University AGM
>
>Last year was a development stage for the tournement but this year as
>subscription increases and the regular dates are set, points and finals
>will be organised. so that we will have a clear winner.
>
>
>if you would like to enter a team please post a cheque for £20 to:
>
>Malcolm Cannon
>130 Latchmere Road
>Kingston Upon Thames
>Surrey
>KT2 5TU
>
>you are welcome to enter two or three teams from one university.
However a
>limit of 16 teams will probably be set for the first event. If heavily
>subscribed I will work out more pitch space and a useable schedule.
>
>Expect to play 4 hard games against teams of similar standard to
yourself.
>
>if you have any questions please email me. also email me to let me know
>your cheque is in the post
>
>Malcolm
>Brunel Ultimate






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