Sounds like a good idea to me. I cant speak officially for Surrey these days, but ill be pushing to send some players.

Hmm, a university team beating RedDog..... where have I seen that scenario before!!!

Mark

> Message date : Sep 08 2004, 11:39 AM
> From : malcolm@...
> To : "'J' Hunter"
> Copy to : seuniultimate@yahoogroups.com
> Subject : [seuniultimate] Re: (unknown)
>
> haha.............this will be a first division team!
>
> why doubt yourself. there is a strong base of good players in the SE. We
> are going to practice hard together. Then we are going to go out and win
> games.
>
> It is a personal choice for some if they dont want to be part of it. but i
> think you will beneifit personally as much playing in this team....as you
> would playing for a team such as RedDog or Hammerage. If you were going to
> go and play for Fire thats different. but not many students will be.
>
> With this option you get to play open with a lot of players of similar
> standard to yourself. and improve on the way. but you also get to take all
> that back to your team....to every team.
>
> also i hadnt mentioned it before. but it can be arranged that some of the
> top coaches come to run the clinics. ie rob alpen from Clapham and GB.
> there isnt a better coach in the country and we would all learn a hell of a
> lot just in one day a month
>
> its good to hear other views but lets not procastinate ourselves out of
> something useful
>
> mal
>
>
> 'J' Hunter writes:
>
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > Couple of points, firstly, Fresher's Fayres and the like, one thing that
> > Holloway and Surrey are doing is a demonstration game - the advantage of
> > getting an outside team in rather than an internal thing being of course the
> > increased profile of having a more competitive game to show. If teams are up
> > for this but dont know who they would play just send me and email and I will
> > sort out who can go to who, (its a two-way thing of course!). This will also
> > serve to kick-start the season and interaction between teams.
> >
> > I would also like comments on Mal's ideas for a SE team?! My only concern
> > would be that it stops the better players playing with first division teams
> > and getting experience and tactics that way, and as Kai said, may be tricky
> > for smaller clubs - deffinatly some sort of joint ventures are needed,
> > perhaps training days as well as tournaments will really work, like the UCL
> > beginners tournamnt a few years ago that ran drills for half the day,
> >
> > thoughts and comments back to the group please!
> >
> >                                     'J'
> >
> >
> > >From: malcolm@...
> > >To: seuniultimate@yahoogroups.com
> > >Subject: [seuniultimate] SE develpment team
> > >Date: Tue, 07 Sep 2004 21:29:31 GMT
> > >
> > >
> > >ok i really want to do this. i think it will be huge for the development of
> > >SE uni ultimate. and british ultimate in general
> > >
> > >i propose we set up a SE uni team...as suggested before....but...this is
> > >how i see it working and benefiting all of SE rather than just the few
> > >already elite players. i will need strong objections with good arguments to
> > >disuade from going ahead with this. im very excited! ha i havent even got
> > >to explaining it yet and im already joyous at the thoughts of us all
> > >pulling this off!
> > >
> > >
> > >ok... here goes
> > >
> > >1. We set up a team for Open winter league.
> > >2. We train once a month. if Open winter league is on sundays we train the
> > >saturday before. if it is on saturdays we train the weekend before.
> > >3. 5 players maximum are allowed to attend from each uni. it is upto the
> > >uni to decide who they send. they could send the keenest, the best, the
> > >ones they want to improve the most...its upto them but basically they are
> > >allowed to send a car full.
> > >4. Two players from each uni that comes will be gauranteed to play in the
> > >first team at Open winter league
> > >5. Two players/or maybe all Three will be gauranteed to play second team
> > >6. If a uni has three very good players they may all get selected for the
> > >first team. but never stopping at least Two players from each university
> > >from being in the firsts.
> > >7. Universities will only get their gauranteed two slots if at least two
> > >players attend the training clinics. ( i would like to make it that these
> > >two slots are given to the two who make training but would like to hear
> > >peoples suggestions on the matter)
> > >
> > >
> > >So this has huge benefits......let me list some of the ones i see
> > >
> > >1. We would come together as a region.
> > >2. Individual players in the region who are keen enough to train and play
> > >will improve
> > >3. Our SE teams will improve. because at least two of their players will
> > >play Open winter league. and five will train with good coaches and
> > >experienced playes every month.
> > >4. We can share drills and ideas for training. the five who attend can
> > >bring back everything they learn to their teams. once again improving the
> > >level of play in our region
> > >5. It gives young players something immeediate to aspire to. for a small
> > >team where first team selection is gauranteed it offers a level of
> > >competiveness and a reason to improve within the club.
> > >
> > >
> > >So can we make this happen? I propose the first training is on the Common
> > >on Saturday October the ninth. does anyone have any objections or
> > >suggestions to improve this plan. this is likely to be the day before the
> > >first winter league.
> > >
> > >below i will list some possible reactions and arguments against them.
> > >
> > >thanks mal
> > >
> > >1. My uni team is already sending a team to open winter league: this means
> > >you probably have a strong base of players. why not share the wealth and
> > >let two of your players play in the SE team. this will only benefit your
> > >region making university ultimate more of a challenge and therfor more
> > >rewarding
> > >
> > >hmm already struggling for ideas
> > >
> > >2. We are too busy to send players to this because we are going to beginner
> > >tournies etc: you only need to commit two players to this. your club will
> > >benefit more from sending people to both. beginners probably wont be
> > >expected at the clinics at the beginning of the year and you dont need to
> > >send all your experienced players to beginner tournies! they wont get pitch
> > >time anyway!
> > >
> > >3. Why is this stuff always on clapham: because i know clapham common. i
> > >know when it will be free and its kind of a home for london ultimate. if
> > >you have places just as suitable suggest them. im sure it would work at the
> > >royal holloway campus etc.
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