Hi,

To me this really sounds like a good idea. I'm the president of the University
of Essex Team, the Victims. We are quite a new team and haven't really got into
the uni tournament scene yet which I hope to change this year.

I think this would really benefit new teams that have a small base. Last year
our club had 20-30 members although not everyone turned up all the time. On a
good practice we would get enough for a 7 a side but most of the time we had
just enough for a 5vs5 with a sub here or there. Although we have some keen
members it's really hard to develop the game with them if we don't have enough
people/experience for a good practice.

Also as one of the more experienced players of the team, I found it really
frustrating that I wasn't improving my game as much as I wanted to. I think
these plans would benefit keen players that want to improve their game. Also it
would give new interested players an insight into the levels that is needed for
playing uni ultimate.

Another benefit as Mal mentioned is the sharing of drills and ideas for
training. Although I know the how the game works and the rules of the game I
found it pretty hard to run a practice. I started playing ultimate in college
and just played the game and didn't learn any drills. I've been learning drills
and been looking up drills on the internet but its quite had putting it all into
practice since I don't have the coaching skills since I wasn't really coached
myself. I think it would really benefit people like me to try and get this
knowledge so I could give better advice to the team.

That's the main benefits I can think of in relation to my club. However I just
thought of one disadvantage that it might give. With teams with a small base,
sending out 5 players to a regional practice would actually mean the players
that have been left behind wouldn't get a practice or a good practice for that
week. Although the benefits might outweigh the negative aspects of this, this
might cause a slight segregation in the team which wouldn't be such a good idea
for a small new team. Although the people attending the practices would change,
some people would always be left behind.

I also think that opening practice date (Saturday October 9th) would just give
help to the big teams. With big teams it would be fine, as a few players could
go to the SE practice and then the rest of the experienced players could run the
practice back at uni. However with a small team that just got to know each other
and want games together you just can't take players out of one first uni
practices and leave the others stranded. Also that weekend may actually be the
first practice for some universities. Essex university is a late starter and our
freshers starts on the 4th of October with the freshers fair being on the 9th so
there's no way our team would actually make it to that.

Anyway that's enough from me, but definately a good idea in my opinion.

Thanks

Kai
University of Essex, the Victims.


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From: qmail@... on behalf of malcolm@...
Sent: Tue 07/09/2004 22:29
To: seuniultimate@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [seuniultimate] SE develpment team




ok i really want to do this. i think it will be huge for the development of
SE uni ultimate. and british ultimate in general

i propose we set up a SE uni team...as suggested before....but...this is
how i see it working and benefiting all of SE rather than just the few
already elite players. i will need strong objections with good arguments to
disuade from going ahead with this. im very excited! ha i havent even got
to explaining it yet and im already joyous at the thoughts of us all
pulling this off!


ok... here goes

1. We set up a team for Open winter league.
2. We train once a month. if Open winter league is on sundays we train the
saturday before. if it is on saturdays we train the weekend before.
3. 5 players maximum are allowed to attend from each uni. it is upto the
uni to decide who they send. they could send the keenest, the best, the
ones they want to improve the most...its upto them but basically they are
allowed to send a car full.
4. Two players from each uni that comes will be gauranteed to play in the
first team at Open winter league
5. Two players/or maybe all Three will be gauranteed to play second team
6. If a uni has three very good players they may all get selected for the
first team. but never stopping at least Two players from each university
from being in the firsts.
7. Universities will only get their gauranteed two slots if at least two
players attend the training clinics. ( i would like to make it that these
two slots are given to the two who make training but would like to hear
peoples suggestions on the matter)


So this has huge benefits......let me list some of the ones i see

1. We would come together as a region.
2. Individual players in the region who are keen enough to train and play
will improve
3. Our SE teams will improve. because at least two of their players will
play Open winter league. and five will train with good coaches and
experienced playes every month.
4. We can share drills and ideas for training. the five who attend can
bring back everything they learn to their teams. once again improving the
level of play in our region
5. It gives young players something immeediate to aspire to. for a small
team where first team selection is gauranteed it offers a level of
competiveness and a reason to improve within the club.


So can we make this happen? I propose the first training is on the Common
on Saturday October the ninth. does anyone have any objections or
suggestions to improve this plan. this is likely to be the day before the
first winter league.

below i will list some possible reactions and arguments against them.

thanks mal

1. My uni team is already sending a team to open winter league: this means
you probably have a strong base of players. why not share the wealth and
let two of your players play in the SE team. this will only benefit your
region making university ultimate more of a challenge and therfor more
rewarding

hmm already struggling for ideas

2. We are too busy to send players to this because we are going to beginner
tournies etc: you only need to commit two players to this. your club will
benefit more from sending people to both. beginners probably wont be
expected at the clinics at the beginning of the year and you dont need to
send all your experienced players to beginner tournies! they wont get pitch
time anyway!

3. Why is this stuff always on clapham: because i know clapham common. i
know when it will be free and its kind of a home for london ultimate. if
you have places just as suitable suggest them. im sure it would work at the
royal holloway campus etc.





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