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a week to pull hair out (what little remaining)   Message List  
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Re: a week to pull hair out (what little remaining)

--- In scoresheet-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Tom Hanrahan" <Han60Man@...> wrote:
NL 322 Maybe I am missing something in my settings but I dont understand how a
guy like Paulino can give up 3 runs in one game in which he pithed one inning
in Scoresheet when he pitched one 7 inning game and gave up only 3 hits and 1
earned run in real baseball especially when the opponents hit .239 for the week.
Perhaps you can offer me some insight on this team regarding a better lineup or
better use of hook #s based on the team makeup and your experiences that would
maximize the results of this team in games in Scoresheet

Thanks Carl
>
> what league is this, Carl? Would like to look at your results.
>
> Tom
>
> --- In scoresheet-talk@yahoogroups.com, "Carl" <togatx@> wrote:
> >
> > Final stats of 2 teams I faced this week 6.50 era..... 239 BA
> >
> > So my teams go 3-3 and go ..what the ....?
> > and look back on games trying to figure out whats the deal.
> >
> > I had not spectacular but solid pitching performances from all pitchers
other than Hamels
> > IP/WHIP/Earned runs
> > Lincecum 9 / 7 / 1
> > J Johnson 6 / 9 /3
> > Oswalt 6 / 9 / 1
> > Hamels 4.2/ 10/ 4
> > Kazmir 5 / 5 / 2
> >
> > So what happens?
> > Game One... Hamels starts?.. so im figuring ok maybe I lose this one as he
got lit up. Hmm.. but its still bottom of 8th inning and Hamels is still in
pitching ahead 3-2 and now all my better gloves in IROD, Matusi come in for
defensive purposes. Time for my closer Mike Gonzalez to come in. He pitched 3
innings this week in real baseball striking out six and not allowing a hit or
walk...But huh??? here comes Chris Perez my # 2 guy out of pen vs RHP. Denys
Reyes is # 2 vs LHP...OK.. Its Closing time right? Where the bonk is Mike
Gonzalez? Not Chris Perez. So what happens in top of ninth in closing
situation non-closer comes in and give up 2 runs. And then. but not until then,
in comes Gonzalez with two outs in top of ninth to get final out (1/3rd inning)
after Perez blew lead. Well that bites in Game One.
> >
> > Game Two ..Josh Johnson starts. This game Mike Gonzalez does come in th 8th
inning to hold opponents scorelsss in 8th and 9th innings to win 3-2. 1 and 1
so far.
> >
> > Game Three.. Lincecum starts. W 3-0 nine inning shutout.. No clsoe comes
in.. 2 and 1 so far.
> >
> > Game 4 Hamels again? He only pitched 4.2 inning in real baseball, is not
my # 1 listed pitcher, plus he has already pitched 8 2/3rds in game # 1. H did
pitch twice the previous week though pitching 14 innings ang only giving up 4
total earned runs. But Josh Johnson alos pitched twice previous week and is
listed higher in rotation. Johnson gave up 4 runs in 16 innings in two starts.
But what the hey? Its top of 7th and Hamels already given up 6 runs and he
give up 3 mor making it nine bebleeping runs. Where my RPers and how has Hamels
givenup mor u runs in this one game that he gave up in three games of 18.2 IP
over past 3 weeks. Especially considering team Opponents as per Scoresheet hit
.239. But now whats this ? In bottom of 7th here comes my closer ?? and we are
down 9-6. Why is my closer coming into this game?
> > He pitches 1/3rd of inning and gets his out and get pinch hit for.
> >
> > Ok, here comes Felipe Paulino (now down 9-7) who pitched fantastically in
real baseball giving up one run and three hits in 7 innings this w past week.
Imagien my surprise (and anothe hair lost) when my .239 batting average
opponents immediately score three runs off Paulino.
> > But what it continues my 6.52 Era opponents pitcher now use a AAA pitcher,
but in bottom of eight my team does down 1-2-3 and AAA guy pitch another
scoreless ninth. So now its 2 and 2 for week.
> >
> > Game 5..Scott Kazmir (back finally with 5 2 er in 5 ip). But Gives up 3
runs by middle of fifth inning to .239 hitting opponents coming out with bases
loaded only for Leo Nunez to get lit up for four runs. Probably reaqlsitic in
that Nunez gave up 3 earned runs in one Inning in real basball (Stinks but that
is what is was) . So what . Why is Mike Gonzalez pitchign in 7th inning again in
a non closer situation? behidn 7-1. Sigh. This time Paulino comess in
meaningless game and gets two innings of six-up-six-down after givng up e 3 runs
in previous game. Now Down 2-3 vs .239 hitting adn 6.50 era pitching opponents
> >
> > Final Game Roy Oswalt (Roy is back). vs Bronson Arroyo 7=1 win vs a team
with AA catcher, AAS 1B and AA pitchgin for 4 innings.
> >
> > Lessons learned about readjusting sp and closer hooks. Still a most
frustrating week. We all have them from time to time
> >
> > However, Lincecum and Roy Oswalt have started this weeks games on Monday
with a nine inning shutout and one earnd run complete games
> > Carl
> >
>





Fri Jul 3, 2009 8:11 pm

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Final stats of 2 teams I faced this week 6.50 era..... 239 BA So my teams go 3-3 and go ..what the ....? and look back on games trying to figure out whats the...
Carl
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Jul 1, 2009
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what league is this, Carl? Would like to look at your results. Tom...
Tom Hanrahan
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Jul 1, 2009
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... NL 322 Maybe I am missing something in my settings but I dont understand how a guy like Paulino can give up 3 runs in one game in which he pithed one...
Carl
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Jul 3, 2009
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well Carl, since Paulino hadn't pitched in a few weeks prior, & you prob. had him in back then or prior anyway?: I'd say it's a combined stat result. He's been...
soxknation
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Jul 4, 2009
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mislabelled (sp?), that's really season ERA (on date)... oh & as long as I'm dup. posting meant to start that by saying "well, Carl, my guess is... (etc)"....
soxknation
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Jul 4, 2009
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Yes I get he has been brutal but THIS Particular week Paulino ONLY only pitched in real baseball as a starter in one 7 inning performance in which he gave up 3...
Carl
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Jul 4, 2009
9:37 pm

Given the recent run of complaints like these, I think the Bartons might find a less testy market if they just dumped the sim and turned each week's outcomes...
bostonibis
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Jul 5, 2009
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Well, they get complaints that the outcomes and too random and complaints that the outcomes are not random enough. The more I read these complaints the more I...
garthhewitt
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Jul 6, 2009
6:27 pm

I agree. I also think people tend to forget that performance in the sim isn't just based on what your guy did in real life... it's also based on what the guys...
Derek Hiemforth
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Jul 6, 2009
6:37 pm

Who a pitcher faced in real life and the park they pitched in is totally irrelevant. The simulator treats a game in PETCO Park against the Nationals exactly...
kwarrenca
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Jul 8, 2009
6:05 pm

So you're telling me that if Tim Lincecum pitches a shutout against the Nationals, then he's equally likely to pitch a shutout against the toughest lineup in...
Derek Hiemforth
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Jul 8, 2009
7:45 pm

Well, the Nationals' offense isn't actually that bad, so your examle isn't the best. But the sim does NOT compensate for quality of competition or for the...
Ian Thistle
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Jul 8, 2009
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... And that's the only adjustment I was ever talking about. :-) - Derek...
Derek Hiemforth
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Jul 8, 2009
8:28 pm

Not quite, but close. The strength of the real life lineup faced by a pitcher is irrelevent for scoresheet purposes. That having been said, Timmy goes 9...
Paul Finkelstein
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Jul 8, 2009
7:58 pm

... But it's not irrelevant for real-life purposes. How well a pitcher fares in Scoresheet is going to be based on: 1. His pitching results that week (raw...
Derek Hiemforth
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Jul 8, 2009
8:32 pm

you wrote: "So Joe Pitcher pitched 8 innings IRL and only gave up one run while striking out 9 and walking 1. That's great. But if he was facing the Nationals...
kwarrenca
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Jul 9, 2009
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I think I was muddling the issue by mentioning who he faced in real life. It isn't really relevant (and I knew it didn't affect the sim)... I guess I was just...
Derek Hiemforth
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Jul 9, 2009
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From Carl (origianl poster) I think my original post got lost in the various translations. Derek and otehrs have made some very astute observations though. ...
Carl
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Jul 12, 2009
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Couple of points... The order you list your starters determines who gets any extra starts. So #1 will get the extra start if he has extra start available. If...
bluechip_10
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Jul 12, 2009
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No no. Some of this is very wrong. The sim does not match bad pitching with good opponents. It is randomish with adjustment for prefer-to-face and not...
garthhewitt
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Jul 12, 2009
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Ok, then why, unless the prefer to face option is used, would the order of appearance for starters in a given week not follow the order they are listed? Of...
bluechip_10
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Jul 12, 2009
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Thank you for addressing this .. this is one of the unknowns I have always wondered about in Scoresheet. I get that one pitcher can't start agaisnt the same...
Carl
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Jul 13, 2009
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The answer to most of these questions were just covered last week in the notes the Bartons included with your results. For example, " ... 'carry-over' starts...
Stephen Shelby
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Jul 13, 2009
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Ive had that situation come up several times but didnt make any changes. LMK if that # 5 guys get two starts this week. Even then, since this week has seven...
Carl
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Jul 13, 2009
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Which pitcher starts which game is randomly generated, within the constraint that a pitcher can't start twice against the same team in one week, and the...
kwarrenca
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Jul 13, 2009
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I thought it meant he WILL face that team, not is MORE Likely to face" Is that not correct? If I understand it correctly, one poster mentioned something about...
Carl
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Jul 13, 2009
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Carl, you confused a couple of issues. Steve was saying he's sure about his #1 guy getting two starts. Ken was saying the SP is more likely to be assigned to...
garthhewitt
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Jul 13, 2009
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I'm not sure where, in one of the instructions, the weekly notes or here, Jeff or Dave explained that they didn't want #1 pitchers facing the other number ones...
garthhewitt
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Jul 13, 2009
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Carryover stats should NOT have affected Paulino's crappy appearance for you; it appears to be a case, as best I can tell, of the fact that some randomness...
Tom Hanrahan
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Jul 6, 2009
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Shhhhh. People only want to point at the sim when they think they're getting screwed over. Conversely, when players are overacheiving in scoresheet, it's due...
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