Very excited about this season. The West is going to be killer. To bad the NBA
doesn't seed the playoffs by record. That way the crappy East teams would stay
home. They are unwatchable. I do wish the Spurs could have added either Leon
Powe or Big Baby from Boston, but I think this team is complete. I don't think
many teams will score 1oo on them this season. I'm ready!

the trade is done. i like it too.
-----Original Message-----
Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009 2:18:40 pm
To: saspursrock@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
From: "Jason" <jdk2509@...>

Where'd you see this? I can see them trading those guys, but not for another
player the same age and the same ability as 1 player. 3 players for 1 player.
There has to be more to the deal if they did that.

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, "Jesse" <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and Kirk
Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere else.
Anyone hear or read anything?
>

Wallace goes to Boston

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/writers/chris_mannix/07/05/Wallace.Celtics\
/index.html?eref=si_topstories

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DeJuan Blair
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeJuan-Blair-5049/

Jack McClinton
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jack-McClinton-5304/

Nando De Colo
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Nando-De-Colo-5087/

Overall, I really like DeJuan Blair. I really don't know that much about the
other 2 picks though. DeJuan Blair looks perfect to go along with George Hill
and the other younger Spurs.

Well, the trade was confirmed @ 8 pm. After being traded 1st time around,
Fabricio is said to have been traded to Detroit.

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, Jesse <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> They are trying. But no need now. Besides Ginobli is the heart and soul of
this team. He is the one who gets the ball at the end of playoff games, get the
crap knocked out of him then makes his ft's. That said, I have to agree with
you. The Wizards lottery pick sure looks good right about now.
>  We'll see.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jason <jdk2509@...>
> Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> To: saspursrock@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 5:46 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I compared (statistically) Ginobili & Richard Jefferson. Jefferson is better
in every category except 2: FG% and FT%. Heck, trade Ginobili! He'll be out
majority of this season with another injury somewhere on his body just like he
was last season.
>
> --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, Jesse <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > They are actually over the cap, so it will not help the Spurs financially. I
still think it makes them much better, now and in the future. None of the
players traded were contributing much and even though I loved bruce, he is done
at age 39. I think pop had to gamble because Ginobli has been hurt the last to
seasons and he wanted some insurance for the playoffs. I give it an A.
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@ > wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jason <jdk2509@ >
> > Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> > To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 4:53 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah, it's a link, but it won't let me see it. The website says "members
only can see it". I try to become a member. It says "this email is already
used". So, sorry - I have no access to this article. They just won't let me in.
> >
> > Sorry, but in my opinion, this trade sucks quite badly. The main benefit the
Spurs get out of it in the long run (as I see) is more money in the bank for
Duncan to stay after his contract ends (Duncan stays, Pop stays).
> >
> > And I don't think there's a Kirk Thomas, but a Kurt Thomas. Or was. Kurt
Thomas was very useful, but I guess what's his name...George Hill is the starter
in his place now, right ???
> >
> > --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, Jesse <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am going to miss Bowen, but this is a great trade for San Antonio.
Jefferson is a great offensive player who can spot up or drive. If Manu gets
100% healthy, I do not see why the Spurs aren't the favorites to win it all next
year. Of course I still hold out hope that Drew Gooden resigns. What a starting
5!
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@ ...>
> > > Subject: Re: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> > > To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:31 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > It is true go to http://www.clubspur s.com/spurs- discussion/ breaking-
news-spurs- trade-for- bucks-jefferson- t7960.html for more info
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com>
> > > Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> > > To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> > > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:18 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Where'd you see this? I can see them trading those guys, but not for
another player the same age and the same ability as 1 player. 3 players for 1
player. There has to be more to the deal if they did that.
> > >
> > > --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, "Jesse" <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and
Kirk Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere
else. Anyone hear or read anything?
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

http://www.ticket760.com/cc-common/news/sections/sportsarticle.html?feed=104670&\
article=5646519

I compared (statistically) Ginobili & Richard Jefferson. Jefferson is better in
every category except 2: FG% and FT%. Heck, trade Ginobili! He'll be out
majority of this season with another injury somewhere on his body just like he
was last season.

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, Jesse <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> They are actually over the cap, so it will not help the Spurs financially. I
still think it makes them much better, now and in the future. None of the
players traded were contributing much and even though I loved bruce, he is done
at age 39. I think pop had to gamble because Ginobli has been hurt the last to
seasons and he wanted some insurance for the playoffs. I give it an A.
>  
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jason <jdk2509@...>
> Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> To: saspursrock@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 4:53 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah, it's a link, but it won't let me see it. The website says "members only
can see it". I try to become a member. It says "this email is already used". So,
sorry - I have no access to this article. They just won't let me in.
>
> Sorry, but in my opinion, this trade sucks quite badly. The main benefit the
Spurs get out of it in the long run (as I see) is more money in the bank for
Duncan to stay after his contract ends (Duncan stays, Pop stays).
>
> And I don't think there's a Kirk Thomas, but a Kurt Thomas. Or was. Kurt
Thomas was very useful, but I guess what's his name...George Hill is the starter
in his place now, right ???
>
> --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, Jesse <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > I am going to miss Bowen, but this is a great trade for San Antonio.
Jefferson is a great offensive player who can spot up or drive. If Manu gets
100% healthy, I do not see why the Spurs aren't the favorites to win it all next
year. Of course I still hold out hope that Drew Gooden resigns. What a starting
5!
> >  
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@ ...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@ ...>
> > Subject: Re: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> > To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:31 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > It is true go to http://www.clubspur s.com/spurs- discussion/ breaking-
news-spurs- trade-for- bucks-jefferson- t7960.html for more info
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> > To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:18 PM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Where'd you see this? I can see them trading those guys, but not for another
player the same age and the same ability as 1 player. 3 players for 1 player.
There has to be more to the deal if they did that.
> >
> > --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, "Jesse" <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and
Kirk Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere
else. Anyone hear or read anything?
> > >
> >
>

Yeah, it's a link, but it won't let me see it. The website says "members only
can see it". I try to become a member. It says "this email is already used". So,
sorry - I have no access to this article. They just won't let me in.

Sorry, but in my opinion, this trade sucks quite badly. The main benefit the
Spurs get out of it in the long run (as I see) is more money in the bank for
Duncan to stay after his contract ends (Duncan stays, Pop stays).

And I don't think there's a Kirk Thomas, but a Kurt Thomas. Or was. Kurt Thomas
was very useful, but I guess what's his name...George Hill is the starter in his
place now, right ???

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, Jesse <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> I am going to miss Bowen, but this is a great trade for San Antonio. Jefferson
is a great offensive player who can spot up or drive. If Manu gets 100% healthy,
I do not see why the Spurs aren't the favorites to win it all next year. Of
course I still hold out hope that Drew Gooden resigns. What a starting 5!
>  
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@...>
> Subject: Re: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> To: saspursrock@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It is true go to http://www.clubspur s.com/spurs- discussion/ breaking-
news-spurs- trade-for- bucks-jefferson- t7960.html for more info
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jason <jdk2509@yahoo. com>
> Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Re: Richard Jefferson
> To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tuesday, June 23, 2009, 2:18 PM
>
>
>
>
> Where'd you see this? I can see them trading those guys, but not for another
player the same age and the same ability as 1 player. 3 players for 1 player.
There has to be more to the deal if they did that.
>
> --- In saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com, "Jesse" <spursfansa@ ...> wrote:
> >
> > Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and Kirk
Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere else.
Anyone hear or read anything?
> >
>

Where'd you see this? I can see them trading those guys, but not for another
player the same age and the same ability as 1 player. 3 players for 1 player.
There has to be more to the deal if they did that.

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, "Jesse" <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and Kirk
Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere else.
Anyone hear or read anything?
>

Just got a text that the Spurs have traded Fab Oberto, Bruce Bowen, and Kirk
Thomas to Milwaukee for F Richard Jefferson. I haven't read this anywhere else.
Anyone hear or read anything?

I read about that almost a wk ago on CNNSI. I agree. Manu plays a big role, but
he is injured way too often. You can almost compare him to Big Shot Rob. He's
out for the entire season, then might do something in the playoffs.

If I were Pop, I'd go for the deal with the Wizards. He's training enough new
players that if or when he leaves, there will be enough to show that they can
continue with the stuff Pop has taught them. Tony is the primary example of
that.


--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, Jesse <spursfansa@...> wrote:
>
> I have read on CNNSI that there is a deal with the Wizards for a lottry pick
and some players for Manu and Oberto. I think in light of Manu's health the last
two playoffs, it is a good idea that they get what they can for him. I agree
that he is the heart and soul but his career is headed the same way as Grant
Hill. I think the Spurs need to get what they can for him while he still has
value. One more injury and they can forget about getting anything, including a
ring.
>  
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Jackie Lousier <jackiecollette@...>
> Subject: Re: [SA Spurs Rock] Hello
> To: saspursrock@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 3:31 PM
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> right now that is just a rumor.....I have not heard anything to support it.
>
> --- On Mon, 6/15/09, tx_bigncute <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com> wrote:
>
>
> From: tx_bigncute <no_reply@yahoogroup s.com>
> Subject: [SA Spurs Rock] Hello
> To: saspursrock@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Monday, June 15, 2009, 1:50 PM
>
>
>
>
> I thought I heard a rumor, is Manu leaving??
>

I thought I heard a rumor, is Manu leaving??

I'm not making any excuses (and not trying to give you a hard time), I didn't
expect the Spurs to beat Dallas without Manu.  Dallas was playing well the last
8-10 games of the season and the Spurs weren't.  Most people around here know
what Manu brings to the floor every night and it is a lot more than points or
rebounds.  I also didn't consider this team deep enough to win it all this year.
Sure they had Kurt Thomas, Bruce Bowen, Fab, George Hill, and Roger Mason Jr
sitting over on the bench,(among others), but most of the them are longer in the
tooth that Duncan any day of the week.

As for the draft, you don't need a solid draft pick to improve your team.  The
free agent class this year is interesting and their are some quality prospects
out there.  Oh yeah, sometimes your second round draft picks are better than
those with guarnateed contracts, so we wait and see what happens.  It should be
interesting.

Just want to ask, Do you think Dirk will really find his game against the
Nuggets?  He really wasn't the Dirk we all know in the series against the Spurs.

Cheers until next season!

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, mavs_randy <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I wouldn't make an excuse if my third best player (Josh Howard) were out and
neither should you.  This Spurs team is the deepest I've seen in a long time. 
The bottom line is Duncan is old and that hurts worse than Ginobli being hurt
right now.  If the Spurs don't draft someone else to help the cause this year,
then they might as well blow it up and start over.  Oh wait, the Thunder owns
the Spurs' 1st round draft choice this year.  Wow, it's been quite a run.
>
> MavsRandy
>
> --- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, "txgalnca" <txgalnca@> wrote:
> >
> > That's all you have to say!  I guess it is a big WOW to beat the Manuless
Spurs, but not really.  I didn't expect this lineup to go very far in the
playoffs this year.  Good luck in Round 2, I think Denver is playing too well
for Dallas to have a chance.  They could be the sleepers this season.
> >
>

I wouldn't make an excuse if my third best player (Josh Howard) were out and
neither should you.  This Spurs team is the deepest I've seen in a long time. 
The bottom line is Duncan is old and that hurts worse than Ginobli being hurt
right now.  If the Spurs don't draft someone else to help the cause this year,
then they might as well blow it up and start over.  Oh wait, the Thunder owns
the Spurs' 1st round draft choice this year.  Wow, it's been quite a run.

MavsRandy

--- In saspursrock@yahoogroups.com, "txgalnca" <txgalnca@...> wrote:
>
> That's all you have to say!  I guess it is a big WOW to beat the Manuless
Spurs, but not really.  I didn't expect this lineup to go very far in the
playoffs this year.  Good luck in Round 2, I think Denver is playing too well
for Dallas to have a chance.  They could be the sleepers this season.
>

That's all you have to say!  I guess it is a big WOW to beat the Manuless Spurs,
but not really.  I didn't expect this lineup to go very far in the playoffs this
year.  Good luck in Round 2, I think Denver is playing too well for Dallas to
have a chance.  They could be the sleepers this season.

Why are they sitting Duncan on back to back nights?