from a Chelsea list. sorry if this is duplicated on BigSoccer, but i
don't go there.

> by Daniel King (19/12/04)
>
> The next phase of Chelsea's bid for world domination looks likely to be a
> partnership with American club San Jose Earthquakes.
>
> After an agreement with Corinthians in South America that could bring
> Brazilian talents like Robinho to Stamford Bridge, Chelsea are planning to
> gain a foothold in the rest of the continent. Alexei Lalas, the bearded
> defender of USA94 and now general manager of the Earthquakes, was due in
> London last week [mid-December] for talks with Blues' Chief Executive Peter
> Kenyon. But Lalas and former US team-mate Eric Wynalda, acting as a
> consultant, postponed the trip when the proposals leaked out in America.
>
> The idea is far from dead, however. The Earthquakes, owned by the Anschutz
> Entertainment Group, whose other interests include the Millennium Dome, are
> strugglers desperate for a purpose-built stadium to keep the franchise in
> San Jose.
>
> AEG are keen to sell outright but Chelsea's input would probably be no more
> than covering the club's costs. Whether an outright purchase follows or not,
> Chelsea want to set up in the Bay Area, where there is a big, football-mad
> Hispanic community.
>
> An additional incentive would be the chance to work with adidas, who have a
> kit deal with MLS. Kenyon is in the process of securing lucrative new
> sponsorship to fit the club's higher global profile and is looking at
> alternatives to his old employers, Umbro.


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from a Chelsea list. sorry if this is duplicated on BigSoccer, but i
don't go there.

> by Daniel King (19/12/04)
>
> The next phase of Chelsea's bid for world domination looks likely to be a
> partnership with American club San Jose Earthquakes.
>
> After an agreement with Corinthians in South America that could bring
> Brazilian talents like Robinho to Stamford Bridge, Chelsea are planning to
> gain a foothold in the rest of the continent. Alexei Lalas, the bearded
> defender of USA94 and now general manager of the Earthquakes, was due in
> London last week [mid-December] for talks with Blues' Chief Executive Peter
> Kenyon. But Lalas and former US team-mate Eric Wynalda, acting as a
> consultant, postponed the trip when the proposals leaked out in America.
>
> The idea is far from dead, however. The Earthquakes, owned by the Anschutz
> Entertainment Group, whose other interests include the Millennium Dome, are
> strugglers desperate for a purpose-built stadium to keep the franchise in
> San Jose.
>
> AEG are keen to sell outright but Chelsea's input would probably be no more
> than covering the club's costs. Whether an outright purchase follows or not,
> Chelsea want to set up in the Bay Area, where there is a big, football-mad
> Hispanic community.
>
> An additional incentive would be the chance to work with adidas, who have a
> kit deal with MLS. Kenyon is in the process of securing lucrative new
> sponsorship to fit the club's higher global profile and is looking at
> alternatives to his old employers, Umbro.


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| Alexander Dosher...Proletarian Intellectual, American Art Fascism |
| S.J. Earthquakes...Chelsea FC...Ukraine...Neue Slowenische Kunst  |
|                                                                   |
| "There was port later."   - Arthur Machen, _The Bright Boy_       |
|___________________________________________________________________|

:)

I'm in the boonies in South Dakota. At my home, I
cannot get anything faster. We has DSL at work...but
of course I would never get on the internet for
anything but work purposes!


--- Wayne Root <waymerr@...> wrote:

> Sorry, I wrote that before I saw Joe Keenan's
> missive.
> Hang in there, Joe.
> Just switched over to ADSL here in Japan and it has
> made a tremendibus
> difference.
> Cheers,
>
>
> On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Wayne Root wrote:
>
> >
> > One of my major criticisms of BigSoccer boards is
> that over the past
> > five years that I've been on it, it has gone from
> a simple forum for
> > discussion to something loaded with too many bells
> and whistles.  I
> > feel for anyone that is still sticking with a
> dial-up connection, it
> > takes several minutes just to load one page.
> >
> > On Jan 2, 2005, at 5:22 AM, mlsdiscussions wrote:
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> --- In sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com, Joe Keenan
> <jkeen60@y...> wrote:
> >>> It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no
> ads...just
> >>> talk. This is good. So how does it pay for
> itself?
> >>>
> >>> Joe
> >>
> >>
> >> MLSDiscussions.com promise to all members:
> >>
> >> We will offer a clean and fast forum. We will not
> clutter the site
> >> with ads and promos.
> >> We will never try to sell you anything. We will
> never operate a store.
> >> We will never have pop-up ads. We will never have
> pop-under ads.
> >> We will never have flash ads. We will never have
> audio/video ads.
> >> We will never charge for signatures (or avatars
> or forum jump)
> >> We will never have more than 1 banner on any page
> >> We will never have non-soccer related forums.
> >>
> >> Thank you for giving us a shot. We appreciate it,
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> >>
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Sorry, I wrote that before I saw Joe Keenan's missive.
Hang in there, Joe.
Just switched over to ADSL here in Japan and it has made a tremendibus
difference.
Cheers,


On Jan 2, 2005, at 10:29 AM, Wayne Root wrote:

>
> One of my major criticisms of BigSoccer boards is that over the past
> five years that I've been on it, it has gone from a simple forum for
> discussion to something loaded with too many bells and whistles.  I
> feel for anyone that is still sticking with a dial-up connection, it
> takes several minutes just to load one page.
>
> On Jan 2, 2005, at 5:22 AM, mlsdiscussions wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> --- In sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com, Joe Keenan <jkeen60@y...> wrote:
>>> It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no ads...just
>>> talk. This is good. So how does it pay for itself?
>>>
>>> Joe
>>
>>
>> MLSDiscussions.com promise to all members:
>>
>> We will offer a clean and fast forum. We will not clutter the site
>> with ads and promos.
>> We will never try to sell you anything. We will never operate a store.
>> We will never have pop-up ads. We will never have pop-under ads.
>> We will never have flash ads. We will never have audio/video ads.
>> We will never charge for signatures (or avatars or forum jump)
>> We will never have more than 1 banner on any page
>> We will never have non-soccer related forums.
>>
>> Thank you for giving us a shot. We appreciate it, and we won't let you
>> down.
>>
>> http://www.mlsdiscussions.com
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One of my major criticisms of BigSoccer boards is that over the past
five years that I've been on it, it has gone from a simple forum for
discussion to something loaded with too many bells and whistles.  I
feel for anyone that is still sticking with a dial-up connection, it
takes several minutes just to load one page.

On Jan 2, 2005, at 5:22 AM, mlsdiscussions wrote:

>
>
> --- In sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com, Joe Keenan <jkeen60@y...> wrote:
>> It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no ads...just
>> talk. This is good. So how does it pay for itself?
>>
>> Joe
>
>
> MLSDiscussions.com promise to all members:
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> We will never try to sell you anything. We will never operate a store.
> We will never have pop-up ads. We will never have pop-under ads.
> We will never have flash ads. We will never have audio/video ads.
> We will never charge for signatures (or avatars or forum jump)
> We will never have more than 1 banner on any page
> We will never have non-soccer related forums.
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> Thank you for giving us a shot. We appreciate it, and we won't let you
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Didn't say anything was wrong with BS. Just stated the
obvious. But BS takes longer to load on my dail-up
with all of the ads. We know how BS pays for itself.
My question was how would MLS Disussions remain
viable. The question was answered.


--- bill@... wrote:

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> What's wrong with Bigsoccer?
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Joe Keenan writes:
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>It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no ads...just
>talk. This is good. So how does it pay for itself?

What's wrong with Bigsoccer?

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--- In sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com, Joe Keenan <jkeen60@y...> wrote:
> It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no ads...just
> talk. This is good. So how does it pay for itself?
>
> Joe


MLSDiscussions.com promise to all members:

We will offer a clean and fast forum. We will not clutter the site
with ads and promos.
We will never try to sell you anything. We will never operate a store.
We will never have pop-up ads. We will never have pop-under ads.
We will never have flash ads. We will never have audio/video ads.
We will never charge for signatures (or avatars or forum jump)
We will never have more than 1 banner on any page
We will never have non-soccer related forums.

Thank you for giving us a shot. We appreciate it, and we won't let you
down.

http://www.mlsdiscussions.com

It looks like BS. Smells like BS. But no ads...just
talk. This is good. So how does it pay for itself?

Joe

--- Wayne Root <waymerr@...> wrote:

>
> On Jan 1, 2005, at 9:56 AM, John Mark Walker wrote:
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> > -JM
> >
> I think it's a good idea.  A board just for MLS and
> its teams.  Fine.
> Wayne
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On Jan 1, 2005, at 9:56 AM, John Mark Walker wrote:

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> On Friday 31 December 2004 14:39, mlsdiscussions wrote:
>> Check it out and be one of the first members to register:
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>> http://www.mlsdiscussions.com/
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> Thank God. I get so tired of the authoritarian moderators on
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> -JM
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I think it's a good idea.  A board just for MLS and its teams.  Fine.
Wayne
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On Friday 31 December 2004 14:39, mlsdiscussions wrote:
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Thank God. I get so tired of the authoritarian moderators on
bigsoccer.com

-JM

Chris Bergin, is that you?


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--- In sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com, "Scott" <sanjose-mls@w...> wrote:
> > Check it out and be one of the first members to register:
> We here on sanjose-mls do not appreciate unsolicited advertising.
But since
> it's on topic with this mailing list...
>
> It appears your site uses the same forum software and hosts the same
> discussions as a widely used site named bigsoccer.  Why go to your site
> rather than theirs?  What does your site provide that others do not?
  Yeah I
> can get the username I want but so what.
>
> I rarely go to bigsoccer because their forums are filled not with sports
> fans but self-proclaimed friends and with posts begging to keep
unskilled
> players on rosters because they're "nice".  Will your content be any
> different?

> Check it out and be one of the first members to register:
We here on sanjose-mls do not appreciate unsolicited advertising.  But since
it's on topic with this mailing list...

It appears your site uses the same forum software and hosts the same
discussions as a widely used site named bigsoccer.  Why go to your site
rather than theirs?  What does your site provide that others do not?  Yeah I
can get the username I want but so what.

I rarely go to bigsoccer because their forums are filled not with sports
fans but self-proclaimed friends and with posts begging to keep unskilled
players on rosters because they're "nice".  Will your content be any
different?

Check it out and be one of the first members to register:

http://www.mlsdiscussions.com/

MLSDiscussions.com stives to become the ultimate forum for MLS and US
Soccer related topics.

sounds like a good slogan to me!
goofus
----- Original Message -----
From: "alexander dosher" <alyx@...>
To: <sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] Goose


>
> > was that really necessary?
>
> rats... sinking ship... the horror, the horror...
>
> > I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly kicking me in the nuts.
>
> hopefully this quote will make it onto the quakes' marketing dept.
> bulletin board.  (just not as a potential slogan, please. "Quakes
> Marketing: Kicking You In The Nuts since 1996"...)
>
> alex.
>
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> | S.J. Earthquakes...Chelsea FC...Ukraine...Neue Slowenische Kunst  |
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Lalas to take fans' questions on Monday
San Jose Earthquakes general manager Alexi Lalas will answer questions
from fans on Monday at 2 p.m. ET in a live online chat. Make sure your
voice is heard by asking your question now. Email sweeper@...
with your question and we'll save it until he gets here.

-----Original Message-----
From: alexander dosher [mailto:alyx@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 6:33 PM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] Goose

Darrin from L.A. sez:
> Were there rookies/young guns on the team who had progressed enough
> that they could have overtaken the starters?

Walker! Jamil Farking WALKER!!! am i really the only person on the list
who thinks so?!? and we left him UNPROTECTED.  enough said, IMHO.

alex.


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more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright
moron."

-H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

Darrin from L.A. sez:
> Were there rookies/young guns on the team who had progressed enough
  > that they could have overtaken the starters?

Walker! Jamil Farking WALKER!!! am i really the only person on the list
who thinks so?!? and we left him UNPROTECTED.  enough said, IMHO.

alex.


--
"As democracy is perfected, the office of president represents,
more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and
glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright
moron."

-H.L. Mencken, The Baltimore Evening Sun, July 26, 1920

I agree with every point below. I would also note that even if you do
bring on "good" players, whether experienced or young, you also have to
hope they gel with personal chemistry.( I think that was one of the
keys to the last few years - it was a cohesive bunch). Plus, it takes a
fair amount of time and some stable lineups before players know how and
where their teammates play and pass and make runs. Ironically, just
when you want to want to have a winning, attractive team for new owners
or to attract $$ for an SSS, you may get a couple of "rebuilding"
seasons.

On Dec 17, 2004, at 3:21 PM, Darrin Howells wrote:
> :
>  
> 1) I have to reiterate that who do we replace these guys with?   
> 2) Regarding the point that the Quakes should have had some turnover
> after last season, I disagree.  This is a team that won the
> championship last year.  I think they deserved the chance to
> continue. 
> Clearly this was a sub-par season, but that always seemed more the
> result of a lack of focus than a lack of ability.
>  
> Without a doubt, it is time to rebuild.  I don't disagree in principle
> with losing any of these guys.  It is the quantity of the changes and
> the gaping holes that these players leave that has me nervous. 

I understand your feeling and quite frankly agree with
the sky is falling feeling. How many starters can a
team lose before it loses some continuity. But, many
of the losses were either unavoidable (Donovan),
unexpected (Corrales) or coming sooner than later
(Ekelund, Goose).


> - Could we have kept Goose?  Did the fact that the
> Quakes did not
> protect him in the Expansion Draft factor into his
> trade request?

From everything I've read, Goose made it clear that he
wanted to be closer to family back east including his
wife's. Not an uncommon request and Goose was worthy
of having that request made. A fourth round pick is
basically a throw-a-way, but Goose leaving does open
some cap room. Blame the too low cap, not management
for that.

> - Why was Corrales so anxious to depart for Norway?
> Did I just say
> Norway?  Is that really a step up for him,
> especially when he always
> wanted to play in Mexico?

Didn't Dom even say that they didn't expect that? Guy
has a sub-par season, still gets a call up from Arena,
then next thing you know, he's headed east, really
east. Did money have anything to do with it?

> - When it looked like DeRosario was finally going to
> get a legitimate
> attempt at the starters job, why jump ship?

Because Europe beckons, and he has stated he wants to
play in Europe. And being a part-time starter for
several seasons has to be irritating to a player who
probably thinks he belongs on the pitch for 90.

> - Is Mulrooney really going to be all that much
> closer to family by
> playing in Dallas?  Why not request a trade to
> Chicago or Columbus which
> are closer?

The Quakes can't control that beyond telling Richie
how much he means to the team.

> - With so many holes appearing, why not give Ekelund
> one more contract
> year if for no other reason than to help mentor so
> many of these young
> guys who will be starting now?  Surely we can get a
> solid 60 minutes out
> of Ekelund and allow his mentor 30 minutes of
> gametime each week to grow
> into the role.

It would take a huge pay cut to make it rational to
sign Ekelund as a 60 minute player. Free up the cap
room and the international slot for someone who can
give you 90 minutes.

> - Why did no one on the Quakes make strong requests
> to Landon that he
> stay?  He said after returning from Germany that he
> would strongly
> consider staying in MLS but no one with the Quakes
> even talked to him
> about his status, let alone asking him to really
> consider staying.  (I
> don't think he should have stayed, but the fact that
> the Quakes didn't
> really even ask him is worrisome).

How true is that? I've read that Garber said they were
willing to spend $5 million to buy out the contract
and a $1 million to sign Landon. But Landon while
being the poster boy for MLS didn't draw people into
stadiums like a certain 15 year old did. Landon is
just one helluva player who will be sorely missed. But
he needs the European competition to sharpen up for
the Cup run in '06.
>
> Certainly you can make arguments as to why each one
> of these guys wanted
> to be or should be gone.  But did it really need to
> be so many players?
>
> It just leaves me questioning the ability of the
> Lalas administration.


I've questioned that since I called him a recently
retired part-time defender for the Laxatives who was
suddenly appointed President of the Quakes!

Let's hope that the Quakes steal a player or two in
the draft and score with some internationals who can
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-----Original Message-----
From: Joe Keenan [mailto:jkeen60@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 9:15 AM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [sanjose-mls] Goose

Pivotal...or familar? Besides Landon, whom among the
missing had that much of a positive influence upon the
play on the field last year on a regular basis? Goose
offered leadership (as did Landon and Richard). I
really won't miss Corrales. Ekelund I liked but we
lost points last year because the Ronnie of '04 was
not the Ronnie of '03. What I see is an administration
(Lalas, Dom and John) rebuilding a team that should
have had some changeover last year and didn't. Hence a
subpar season especially compared to the last 3 in
which the Quakes won the Cup twice. The Quakes players
and fans now expect that their team will be in the
running every year for the Cup and the Shield.

I don't think the rats leaving the ship is over yet.

But let's wait until the draft to try to plug in some
holes and more importantly, allocations to fill in the
big shoes left behind by Ekelund and Donovan. If
Barrett returns as is rumored, then Goose leaving is a
sad goodbye but not a drop in talent.


--- Darrin Howells <casbahman@...> wrote:

> Alex says: "Quakes Marketing: Kicking You In The
> Nuts since 1996"...)"
> 
> Funny, funny stuff.  Makes you laugh through the
> tears.
> 
> Joe says: "The only player besides Landon whom you
> listed that I think
> would be a huge loss would be Richard Mulrooney."
> 
> Joe,  While I agree generally with your player
> assessments, this does
> have the distinct feel of rats jumping off a sinking
> ship as Alex
> mentioned.  The main problem I have is that who do
> you replace all of
> these players with?  Replacing aging players or
> sub-par guys is fine, as
> long as you have someone to step into their shoes.
> How can we replace
> so many pivotal players at once?  I have the feeling
> we may be outplayed
> this season by two expansion teams.
> 
> Darrin
> 
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexander dosher [mailto:alyx@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:12 AM
> To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] Goose
>
>
> > was that really necessary? 
>
> rats... sinking ship... the horror, the horror...
>
> > I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly
> kicking me in the nuts.
>
> hopefully this quote will make it onto the quakes'
> marketing dept.
> bulletin board.  (just not as a potential slogan,
> please. "Quakes
> Marketing: Kicking You In The Nuts since 1996"...)
> 
> 
> 
> alex.
>
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> 
>
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> American Art Fascism |
> | S.J. Earthquakes...Chelsea FC...Ukraine...Neue
> Slowenische Kunst  |
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Pivotal...or familar? Besides Landon, whom among the
missing had that much of a positive influence upon the
play on the field last year on a regular basis? Goose
offered leadership (as did Landon and Richard). I
really won't miss Corrales. Ekelund I liked but we
lost points last year because the Ronnie of '04 was
not the Ronnie of '03. What I see is an administration
(Lalas, Dom and John) rebuilding a team that should
have had some changeover last year and didn't. Hence a
subpar season especially compared to the last 3 in
which the Quakes won the Cup twice. The Quakes players
and fans now expect that their team will be in the
running every year for the Cup and the Shield.

I don't think the rats leaving the ship is over yet.

But let's wait until the draft to try to plug in some
holes and more importantly, allocations to fill in the
big shoes left behind by Ekelund and Donovan. If
Barrett returns as is rumored, then Goose leaving is a
sad goodbye but not a drop in talent.


--- Darrin Howells <casbahman@...> wrote:

> Alex says: "Quakes Marketing: Kicking You In The
> Nuts since 1996"...)"
>
> Funny, funny stuff.  Makes you laugh through the
> tears.
>
> Joe says: "The only player besides Landon whom you
> listed that I think
> would be a huge loss would be Richard Mulrooney."
>
> Joe,  While I agree generally with your player
> assessments, this does
> have the distinct feel of rats jumping off a sinking
> ship as Alex
> mentioned.  The main problem I have is that who do
> you replace all of
> these players with?  Replacing aging players or
> sub-par guys is fine, as
> long as you have someone to step into their shoes.
> How can we replace
> so many pivotal players at once?  I have the feeling
> we may be outplayed
> this season by two expansion teams.
>
> Darrin
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexander dosher [mailto:alyx@...]
> Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:12 AM
> To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] Goose
>
>
> > was that really necessary?
>
> rats... sinking ship... the horror, the horror...
>
> > I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly
> kicking me in the nuts.
>
> hopefully this quote will make it onto the quakes'
> marketing dept.
> bulletin board.  (just not as a potential slogan,
> please. "Quakes
> Marketing: Kicking You In The Nuts since 1996"...)
>
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>
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-----Original Message-----
From: alexander dosher [mailto:alyx@...]
Sent: Thursday, December 16, 2004 8:12 AM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] Goose

> was that really necessary? 

rats... sinking ship... the horror, the horror...

> I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly kicking me in the nuts.

hopefully this quote will make it onto the quakes' marketing dept.
bulletin board.  (just not as a potential slogan, please. "Quakes
Marketing: Kicking You In The Nuts since 1996"...)
 

 

 
alex.


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Goose wanted to go home near the end of his career and
the Quakes let him go. I thought it was a great touch.
Goose has slowed down but was still the anchor of the
D. Of course, his feet were as fast as anchors...

As for Donovan, he went because it was time to move
on. Brown and Walker...who? They did zero last year
and while Walker may have an upside sometime, Brown
was a journeyman player. Ekelund was a liability due
to his age and salary. I love Ronnie and would love to
see him stay an Earthquake, but he missed games due to
injury and was often invisible in contests. Lets see
if he is picked up by someone else in MLS. If he is
not, that will say bunches. Corrales...good riddance.
He made me gringe when he touched the ball. He did
surprise the Quakes with his move...it sounds as if it
was not anticipated. Derosario has every right to look
for greener pastures. He was not used enough as a
Quake. If Forest signs him, bravo to him! The only
player besides Landon whom you listed that I think
would be a huge loss would be Richard Mulrooney. Lets
hope he decides to stay a Quake.

Joe

--- Darrin Howells <casbahman@...> wrote:

> Anyone else think that the Goose trade for a 4th
> round pick was complete
> horse manure?  It was obviously a cost cutting move,
> but was that really
> necessary?  Donovan is gone.  Ekelund is gone.  Both
> those guys were
> making a ton of cash.  Was their salary cap still so
> out of whack that
> they had to release Goose too?  I seriously doubt
> it.  Goose's age has
> gotten the better of him but he is still a solid
> contributor and we got
> way more for our money than we did out of Dayak this
> season.
>
> This is scary:
> Donovan - gone to Leverkusen
> Chris Brown - lost during expansion draft
> Jamil Walker - lost during expansion draft
> Ronnie Ekelund - released
> Goose - traded to NY
> Ramiro Corrales - signed in Norway
> Dwayne DeRosario - headed for Nottingham Forrest
> Richard Mulrroney - asking for a trade to Dallas
>
> With some of these guys leaving, I have to wonder if
> it is indicative of
> their feelings on the Quakes management and/or
> predicament.
>
> I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly
> kicking me in the nuts.
>
> Darrin
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> was that really necessary?

rats... sinking ship... the horror, the horror...

> I feel like the Alexi Lalas era is repeatedly kicking me in the nuts.

hopefully this quote will make it onto the quakes' marketing dept.
bulletin board.  (just not as a potential slogan, please. "Quakes
Marketing: Kicking You In The Nuts since 1996"...)

alex.


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-----Original Message-----
From: Bill Ward [mailto:bill@...] On Behalf Of bill@...
Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 6:31 PM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [sanjose-mls] unsubstantiated holiday gossip

alexander dosher writes:
>
>insiders (from a Chelsea mailinglist) whisper:
>
>> Which reminds me .. Mr. Steve (Chelsea) Cohen, reckons that Mr.
>> Lallas and another ex-American player were seen at the Bridge
>> last week. Lallas is an executive with the San Jose Earthquakes,
>> who need financial help. So the theory is RA to buy the SJ
>> Earthquakes.

Yeah that rumor is all over bigsoccer, in a variety of forms.  It
might just be legit (cross your fingers).

>> Only problem is, 'What happens when the teams meet
>> in the SuperCup (or whatever that tournament is for world club
>> champions these days)?'

Blow up that bridge when we get to it :-)

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alexander dosher writes:
>
>insiders (from a Chelsea mailinglist) whisper:
>
>> Which reminds me .. Mr. Steve (Chelsea) Cohen, reckons that Mr.
>> Lallas and another ex-American player were seen at the Bridge
>> last week. Lallas is an executive with the San Jose Earthquakes,
>> who need financial help. So the theory is RA to buy the SJ
>> Earthquakes.

Yeah that rumor is all over bigsoccer, in a variety of forms.  It
might just be legit (cross your fingers).

>> Only problem is, 'What happens when the teams meet
>> in the SuperCup (or whatever that tournament is for world club
>> champions these days)?'

Blow up that bridge when we get to it :-)

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