Finally a quote from our GM that doesn't exude despair.

NBC11 6pm newscast question rebroadcasted at 11pm:
Roger Mathai: Can you guarantee me that the Earthquakes will be playing in
San Jose next season?
Alexi Lalas: Absolutely not. I can't do that but I can guarantee you that,
uh myself and uh the staff and everybody at the Earthquakes are going to do
everything we possibly can to make sure uh that the Earthquakes stay in the
Bay Area.

Hey does anyone have the e-mail address for Colin McCarthy ?  and
by the way let's not lose all our hope beloved futbol fans because I
believe that we can still do something to save our Quakes. We just
need to keep our spirits up and do all we can on our behalfs. No
matter how small something might seem, everything that we do as a
soccer community and as an individual will make an impact and have
lots of meaning to the County, City, and AEG.

               GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
                                         QUAKES ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
               GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO ! ! ! ! ! !  ! !

Note also in today's Mercury that Dylan  mentions Colin and the web
site Jay Hipps put together for supporting a stadium.
-Ned

On Jun 30, 2004, at 9:16 AM, David Anderson wrote:

> yep, and after reading dylans article, look for it to drop off the
> next few games.
> Dylan sent me an email yesterday after I sent him an email asking if
> he likes soccer.
> He said, soccer was the only game he played while growing up in
> Southern California!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>  
> So it turns out he likes soccer after all, next question is....
>  
> Is he a Galaxy fan??
>  
> SAVETHEQUAKES
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Darrin Howells [mailto:casbahman@...]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 30, 2004 8:45 AM
> To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sanjose-mls] attendance
>
> I just read an online article in the Merc about attendance. 
> Seems that our per game attendance is 1500 higher than at this point
> last season.
>  
> Link:
> http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews/sports/soccer/9045568.htm?
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One other thing:

I just read the Kansas City Star's story that addresses Trecker's story
-- KC's front office has no clue what Trecker is talking about -- and
found a more representative quote from Lalas:

“For us in San Jose, this is nothing new. The realities of MLS from a
business standpoint are very clear, and that's the success of this
league is directly related to soccer-specific stadiums. It's what's
going to take us into the next decade and beyond. We need to be in
markets where that's an option. We need to find a way to get there or
move somewhere where it is.”

That's a lot more level-headed than what was in the Merc and nothing we
don't know already. So maybe Dylan Hernandez is picking the quotes he
uses with an eye towards creating controversy? It wouldn't be the first
time a reporter wrote a story with that intent.

OK, back to work for me...

On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 02:17 PM, David Anderson wrote:

> Where are the 3 local sites they are discussing??

Spartan, the County Fairgrounds, and in the City of Santa Clara.

I have to admit that article in the Merc makes the situation sound
pretty dire. Colin McCarthy has been meeting with Alexi regularly,
though, so I'm not ready to throw in the towel just yet.

Oh, and the editorial by Don Gagliardi that appeared in the Merc, the
Merc's own editorial supporting a stadium for the Quakes, the San Jose
Chamber's vote to support the effort to retain the Quakes, and the
Soccer Silicon Valley web site are all part of the Club Quake Stadium
Committee's efforts. We're mobilizing as quickly as we can and we're
making progress. We'll be reporting more info as it becomes available.
Meanwhile, I've got a web site to work on...

Jay

>  
> The Quakes will not get a new stadium based on anything Alexi does or
> says.  It will be the people in AEG who believe in the market, who
> convince the people in AEG who do not believe in the market, that we
> are still viable.  

	 This is what frustrates me. As fans, we want  to help and do something
so the team will stay. Yet I get the impression that showing up,
cheering, bringing some friends, and even boosting the attendance a
couple of thousand or so won't make much of a difference. It is small
potatoes. Remember at the club Quake event with Lalas at Britannia arms
where fans were asking, what can I do, who can I write to? And the
truth seemed to be - sorry, this is at a different level; multi-million
dollar business corporation decisions, luxury boxes, big sponsors,
politicians, suits. Now if the fans who were inspired by Gagliardi's
op-ed piece, or Jay's website can group to influence multi-million
dollar business corporation decisions, luxury boxes, big sponsors,
politicians, suits, then maybe something can happen. In a sense, fans
want to help, but are only be useful right now "on the field", which is
negligible. The action is "off the field" and the question is whether
or not fans can find a way to be meaningfully involved there.
-Ned

-----Original Message-----
From: David Anderson [mailto:danderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 2:05 PM
To: 'sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: RE: [sanjose-mls] I HATE MLS!!!

Thats my buddy Dylan Hernandez again, writing yet again another negative soccer story.

I tell ya, this guy hates soccer, he has to.

-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin O'Brien [mailto:gobrien@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 11:55 AM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sanjose-mls] I HATE MLS!!!

Quakes confirm talks to move outside area

> I don't want a GM so
> much as thinking about decisions that are good for the league. I want a GM
> who's wholeheartedly dedicated to the idea of keeping the Earthquakes
here.
I initially disagreed but you're absolutely right.  Without the MLS he's out
of a job but his job is to make the Earthquakes a successful franchise.
Alexi's quote makes him out to be lazy and indifferent.  I would expect a
quote more along the lines of "I'm going to build a new stadium whether SJ
likes it or not".  Has anything improved during his watch?  Has he just been
keeping status quo?

Quakes confirm talks to move outside area

<butthead>
This sucks worse than anything has ever sucked before.
</butthead>

I'm sure Alexi is a great guy, but this quote is why it pisses me off that
he's the GM: (regarding the search for new stadium locations)

"But Lalas didn't sound particularly optimistic when speaking of those
discussions.

"'At the end of the day, decisions have to be made that are good for the
league,' he said."

On one hand, this would be perfectly acceptable if I were a neutral
third-party observer. Of course, I'm not. Alexi shouldn't be either, but this
quote tells me that he's basically AEG's whipping boy. I don't want a GM so
much as thinking about decisions that are good for the league. I want a GM
who's wholeheartedly dedicated to the idea of keeping the Earthquakes here.
Frankly, it is not Alexi's place to be ruminating on what's "good for the
league." I believe that's Garber's job.

This quote just smacks of a "well we gave it the old college try, but it
didn't work out" bullshit that I know we'll be hearing soon. I want a guy in
the GM slot who's putting his ass on the line for the team and this
community. I just don't see that right now.

Fuck.

-JM

On Tuesday 29 June 2004 11:54, Gavin O'Brien wrote:
> Quakes confirm talks to move outside area

On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Darrin Howells wrote:

I'm not quite as upset as you Gavin, but close.  They've only confirmed that they are looking, and this might just be a bargaining chip. 

I would guess that is the case. Discussions are still going on regarding at least three local sites.

Oh, and things are progressing on our end, too. There's only a placeholder there now but look for info at <http://www.soccersiliconvalley.com/> by the middle of July.

 The insane thing is that they are talking of moving the team when there is no suitable stadium available anywhere.  San Antonio and Houston are the rumored locations, but they don't have soccer specific stadiums, and are in no way closer to securing those stadiums than the bay area is.  And MLS has virtually made it a mandate that new teams have to have suitable venues in the works.  So, frankly, all this griping about Spartan not being suitable seems more like horsepucky than reality.  Obviously an NFL stadium would be better, accomodation wise, than Spartan.  But would the team rather play in an 80,000 seat NFL stadium or cozy, if delapidated, Spartan?  They are going to need a soccer-specific stadium at some point in the future.  So why not now, here?

The article that Mark originally posted said that Kansas City was a problem because Arrowhead was such a huge stadium and not soccer friendly. So they're pushing Seattle and Houston, where teams would play in NFL stadiums? That doesn't make sense.

Personally, I think the article was either written with a slant by Jamie Trecker in order to stir up some controversy (and notoriety for him over his "scoop") or the quotes from Garber are political posturing as the stadium chess game moves forward in the South Bay. Probably some of each, actually.

Cheers,

Jay

On Tuesday, June 29, 2004, at 12:20 PM, Darrin Howells wrote:

> I'm not quite as upset as you Gavin, but close.  They've only
> confirmed that they are looking, and this might just be a bargaining
> chip. 

I would guess that is the case. Discussions are still going on
regarding at least three local sites.

Oh, and things are progressing on our end, too. There's only a
placeholder there now but look for info at
<http://www.soccersiliconvalley.com/> by the middle of July.


>  The insane thing is that they are talking of moving the team when
> there is no suitable stadium available anywhere.  San Antonio and
> Houston are the rumored locations, but they don't have soccer specific
> stadiums, and are in no way closer to securing those stadiums than the
> bay area is.  And MLS has virtually made it a mandate that new teams
> have to have suitable venues in the works.  So, frankly, all this
> griping about Spartan not being suitable seems more like horsepucky
> than reality.  Obviously an NFL stadium would be better, accomodation
> wise, than Spartan.  But would the team rather play in an 80,000 seat
> NFL stadium or cozy, if delapidated, Spartan?  They are going to need
> a soccer-specific stadium at some point in the future.  So why not
> now, here?

The article that Mark originally posted said that Kansas City was a
problem because Arrowhead was such a huge stadium and not soccer
friendly. So they're pushing Seattle and Houston, where teams would
play in NFL stadiums? That doesn't make sense.

Personally, I think the article was either written with a slant by
Jamie Trecker in order to stir up some controversy (and notoriety for
him over his "scoop") or the quotes from Garber are political posturing
as the stadium chess game moves forward in the South Bay. Probably some
of each, actually.

Cheers,
Jay

-----Original Message-----
From: Gavin O'Brien [mailto:gobrien@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 29, 2004 10:55 AM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sanjose-mls] I HATE MLS!!!

Quakes confirm talks to move outside area

> You should forward this to those idiots in NY at the League Offices!!!
I too agree with this suggestion.  Last night I almost did it myself but I
feel that Darrin (or someone from the front office) should make that
decision.

I'll admit I contemplated not renewing my season tickets for the ninth year
because of relocation rumors, Chivas rumors, resignation of GM, etc.
Darrin's words are spot on.  If they are forwarded on to the Earthquakes or
MLS, feel free to append my name or let me know how else I can show I'm in
full agreeance.

Quakes confirm talks to move outside area

By Dylan Hernandez
Mercury News

Earthquakes General Manager Alexi Lalas said Monday that his team's
owner, the Anschutz Entertainment Group, has started talking to cities
outside the Bay Area regarding a potential relocation of the franchise.
Lalas would not name the communities.

The revelation follows a report in this week's Sports Business Journal
that said the Earthquakes and Kansas City Wizards would be moved next
season. The Business Journal, which cited unnamed sources in Major
League Soccer and U.S. Soccer, did not indicate the cities to which the
teams would relocate.

But MLS Commissioner Don Garber told the Business Journal that no
decision has been made to relocate the teams, a statement repeated by
league spokesman Simon Borg on Monday. Lalas said the same.

``I have not been made aware of any decision,'' Lalas said while
re-emphasizing AEG's stance that the Earthquakes could move if a new
soccer-specific stadium isn't built for them in the area. ``We continue
to evaluate the situation.''

AEG is still in talks with both the city of Santa Clara and Santa Clara
County regarding the possible construction of a new venue. County
Executive Peter Kutras said he spoke with AEG Chief Operating Officer
Scott Blackmun on Monday morning.

But Lalas didn't sound particularly optimistic when speaking of those
discussions.

``At the end of the day, decisions have to be made that are good for
the league,'' he said.

Joe Guerra, policy director of San Jose Mayor Ron Gonzales' budget
office, told the Mercury News earlier this month that AEG informed him
that it was looking at San Antonio and Houston as possible relocation
sites in case it could not secure a deal to build a new stadium.

Guerra said he was under the impression that AEG would rather move than
play in a renovated Spartan Stadium. Talks involving Spartan Stadium
have stalled, Guerra said last week, because AEG is pursuing a new
stadium. Discussions could restart if AEG's attempts fail.

Kevin Moore of the Santa Clara Stadium Association said he was hopeful
that a creative financial solution could be found to build a venue in
Santa Clara. Moore, who noted he wasn't speaking on behalf of the city,
pointed to the recently finished Santa Clara Youth Soccer Park as an
example of Santa Clara's ability to complete projects that others
didn't think were possible.

Meanwhile, the board of directors of the San Jose Silicon Valley
Chamber of Commerce voted unanimously Monday to support the retention
of the Earthquakes. They also voted to support Baseball San Jose's
effort to build a grassroots base of support to bring major league
baseball to San Jose.
Contact Dylan Hernandez at dhernandez @mercurynews.com

If Darrin, doesn't, I will. He really hits the nail on the head
-Ned
On Jun 29, 2004, at 9:52 AM, Gavin O'Brien wrote:

> Darrin,
>
> You should forward this to those idiots in NY at the League Offices!!!
>
> Grrr!!!
>
> -Gavin O'Brien
>
>
>
> On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:15 AM, Darrin Howells wrote:
>
>> This is one of Garber's quotes:
>>  
>> “In San Jose, we are struggling to activate what is supposed to be a
>> very
>> strong soccer market to embrace the Quakes,” he said. “We have been
>> trying
>> for nine years, and now the area has the most successful team on
>> field over
>> the past four years. We want them to support us. We will give them the
>> resources by putting a good team on the field and being in the
>> community,
>> and if it doesn’t work, we’ll do what we have to do.”
>>   
>> Does Garber have a clue?  Because players show up at the local pizza
>> joint, that is supposed to illicit dedication amongst fans?  Please. 
>> This is the same crap Alexi peddled at out meet-and-greet.  He didn't
>> have a clue either.
>>  
>> Once again, they display their ignorance of the abuse this market has
>> suffered.  We have basically been under threat of relocation since
>> season 3, we're on our 5th coach, 5th GM, I'm on something like my
>> 8th or 10th ticket rep; within 3 years of the formation of the team,
>> the front office had replaced every single employee except the PR
>> guy, we play in a crap stadium, oh and did I mention that they've
>> been threatening the move the team for 5 years and we've had 5
>> different GMs?
>>  
>> Every single time you replace the GM, along comes another
>> administration who has to reinvent the wheel.  Every new GM results
>> in a loss of momentum.  Personally, I see that lack of stability, the
>> constant threat of relocation, and the lack of infusion into the
>> media as the three biggest culprits in our current attendance. 
>>   
>> We averaged 17000 per game in season one.  Where did all of those
>> people go?  Besides the economy, what else has changed?  Who in the
>> front office is even asking these questions?
>>  
>> If you want an example of what lack of stability and commitment can
>> do, simply look north to the Raiders.  How can an NFL team not sell
>> out every game; in the biggest sport in the country? I'll tell you
>> why, by threatening to leave, by mismanaging your organization, etc. 
>> Sound familiar Garber?
>>  
>> Darrin
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Mark Wheeler [mailto:mdwheel@...]
>>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:26 PM
>> To: 'sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com'
>> Subject: [sanjose-mls] More Relocation rumors
>>
>> This is from an article by Jamie Trecker
>> http://www.soccercityusa.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mlsinpdx;
>> action=disp
>> lay;num=1088325978;start=60
>>
>> Who are these high ranking sources?
>>
>> ...it doesn't make any sense to me...
>> 1) MLS can barely find 2 cities ready for expansion in 2005...how can
>> moving
>> two more clubs even be considered?  Some reports has Seattle coming
>> in 2006
>> even.
>> 2) Talking about healthy fan bases?  KC seems to be doing fine unless
>> they're manufacturing attendance like the Krafts?  Look at New
>> England...if
>> you've seen their home games on TV, there's no way they're averaging
>> 12k.
>> 3) Providing resources? Yes, they've put a great team on the field,
>> but
>> other than that you'd hardly know it (re: no ads).  Also, bungling
>> around
>> and causing the GM to resign right before the season.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Mark
>>
>>
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Darrin,

You should forward this to those idiots in NY at the League Offices!!!

Grrr!!!

-Gavin O'Brien



On Jun 29, 2004, at 12:15 AM, Darrin Howells wrote:

> This is one of Garber's quotes:
>  
> “In San Jose, we are struggling to activate what is supposed to be a
> very
> strong soccer market to embrace the Quakes,” he said. “We have been
> trying
> for nine years, and now the area has the most successful team on field
> over
> the past four years. We want them to support us. We will give them the
> resources by putting a good team on the field and being in the
> community,
> and if it doesn’t work, we’ll do what we have to do.”
>   
> Does Garber have a clue?  Because players show up at the local pizza
> joint, that is supposed to illicit dedication amongst fans?  Please. 
> This is the same crap Alexi peddled at out meet-and-greet.  He didn't
> have a clue either.
>  
> Once again, they display their ignorance of the abuse this market has
> suffered.  We have basically been under threat of relocation since
> season 3, we're on our 5th coach, 5th GM, I'm on something like my 8th
> or 10th ticket rep; within 3 years of the formation of the team, the
> front office had replaced every single employee except the PR guy, we
> play in a crap stadium, oh and did I mention that they've been
> threatening the move the team for 5 years and we've had 5 different
> GMs?
>  
> Every single time you replace the GM, along comes another
> administration who has to reinvent the wheel.  Every new GM results in
> a loss of momentum.  Personally, I see that lack of stability, the
> constant threat of relocation, and the lack of infusion into the media
> as the three biggest culprits in our current attendance. 
>   
> We averaged 17000 per game in season one.  Where did all of those
> people go?  Besides the economy, what else has changed?  Who in the
> front office is even asking these questions?
>  
> If you want an example of what lack of stability and commitment can
> do, simply look north to the Raiders.  How can an NFL team not sell
> out every game; in the biggest sport in the country? I'll tell you
> why, by threatening to leave, by mismanaging your organization, etc. 
> Sound familiar Garber?
>  
> Darrin
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Wheeler [mailto:mdwheel@...]
>  Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:26 PM
> To: 'sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: [sanjose-mls] More Relocation rumors
>
> This is from an article by Jamie Trecker
> http://www.soccercityusa.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mlsinpdx;
> action=disp
> lay;num=1088325978;start=60
>
> Who are these high ranking sources?
>
> ...it doesn't make any sense to me...
> 1) MLS can barely find 2 cities ready for expansion in 2005...how can
> moving
> two more clubs even be considered?  Some reports has Seattle coming in
> 2006
> even.
> 2) Talking about healthy fan bases?  KC seems to be doing fine unless
> they're manufacturing attendance like the Krafts?  Look at New
> England...if
> you've seen their home games on TV, there's no way they're averaging
> 12k.
> 3) Providing resources? Yes, they've put a great team on the field, but
> other than that you'd hardly know it (re: no ads).  Also, bungling
> around
> and causing the GM to resign right before the season.
>
> Cheers,
> Mark
>
>
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-----Original Message-----
From: Mark Wheeler [mailto:mdwheel@...]
Sent: Monday, June 28, 2004 7:26 PM
To: 'sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com'
Subject: [sanjose-mls] More Relocation rumors

This is from an article by Jamie Trecker
http://www.soccercityusa.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mlsinpdx;action=disp
lay;num=1088325978;start=60

Who are these high ranking sources?

...it doesn't make any sense to me...
1) MLS can barely find 2 cities ready for expansion in 2005...how can moving
two more clubs even be considered?  Some reports has Seattle coming in 2006
even.
2) Talking about healthy fan bases?  KC seems to be doing fine unless
they're manufacturing attendance like the Krafts?  Look at New England...if
you've seen their home games on TV, there's no way they're averaging 12k.
3) Providing resources? Yes, they've put a great team on the field, but
other than that you'd hardly know it (re: no ads).  Also, bungling around
and causing the GM to resign right before the season.

Cheers,
Mark

This is from an article by Jamie Trecker
http://www.soccercityusa.com/cgi-bin/yabb/YaBB.pl?board=mlsinpdx;action=disp
lay;num=1088325978;start=60

Who are these high ranking sources?

...it doesn't make any sense to me...
1) MLS can barely find 2 cities ready for expansion in 2005...how can moving
two more clubs even be considered?  Some reports has Seattle coming in 2006
even.
2) Talking about healthy fan bases?  KC seems to be doing fine unless
they're manufacturing attendance like the Krafts?  Look at New England...if
you've seen their home games on TV, there's no way they're averaging 12k.
3) Providing resources? Yes, they've put a great team on the field, but
other than that you'd hardly know it (re: no ads).  Also, bungling around
and causing the GM to resign right before the season.

Cheers,
Mark

i thought Butt was out injured?

and where the heck is "Protugal"?  ;-)

go Chelsea, erm, i mean, England,

alex.

> Thanks Marcus, actually found a place that I may go and watch.
> Casa Do Benfica on E Santa Clara will be showing it, $20.
> I would go to the Brit, but don't want to be around upset english fans
> after portugal kicks their butt
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* Pelletier, Marcus [mailto:marcus.pelletier@...]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 23, 2004 9:18 AM
> *To:* 'sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com'
> *Subject:* RE: [sanjose-mls] EURO ENG vs PORTUGAL viewing
>
> The only Protugese restaurant I knew of down town was next to "The Polermo"
> on 2nd st, but I don't think it is there anymore since there was a fire a
> few years back. I'm pretty sure it was nicked named "The Portugese
> Restaurant" so there may still be something like that around, or maybe
> someone at the new Polermo may know what happend to it.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dave Alexander [mailto:danderson@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:11 AM
> To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sanjose-mls] EURO ENG vs PORTUGAL viewing
>
>
> Hello football fans.
>
> I know the Almaden Brit will be showing England vs Portugal, but does
> anyone know if there is a Potuguese restaurant downtown that will be
> showing the game??
>
> Dave
>

The only Protugese restaurant I knew of down town was next to "The Polermo"
on 2nd st, but I don't think it is there anymore since there was a fire a
few years back. I'm pretty sure it was nicked named "The Portugese
Restaurant" so there may still be something like that around, or maybe
someone at the new Polermo may know what happend to it.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dave Alexander [mailto:danderson@...]
Sent: Tuesday, June 22, 2004 10:11 AM
To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [sanjose-mls] EURO ENG vs PORTUGAL viewing


Hello football fans.

I know the Almaden Brit will be showing England vs Portugal, but does
anyone know if there is a Potuguese restaurant downtown that will be
showing the game??

Dave





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Hello football fans.

I know the Almaden Brit will be showing England vs Portugal, but does
anyone know if there is a Potuguese restaurant downtown that will be
showing the game??

Dave

                          "   GO QUAKES ! !   "

On Wednesday, June 16, 2004, at 12:27 AM, francisco quezada wrote:

> Can someone tell me if they know anything or have any
> information about the committee that was assigned by the Board of
> Supervisors to do some research on the land or property for a
> soccer stadium ? I haven't read anything about this on the paper since
> Leigh Weimers opinion last week.  Is it all a matter of just waiting
> or can we do anything in the meantime besides writing letters to the
> city and board.  I would really like to know who these people are and
> what isit that they are really doing if its open to the public.
> Was there a time frame or deadline that was given to them by the
> board.  I am very concerned about this matter and I would really like
> to know something about the issue. It's clear that it takes time for
> this to develop but what is the latest update.

Francisco, there's a Club Quake committee that's set up to work the
political angles on this -- in fact, you have the CQ committee to thank
for the Board of Supervisors' current interest in the stadium project.
Please do write your supervisor to let them know you support the
stadium. There will also be a number of opportunities to help in the
effort. More information will be posted here when it's available.

Cheers,
Jay

On Wednesday, June 16, 2004, at 12:27 AM, francisco quezada wrote:

> Can someone tell me if they know anything or have any
> information about the committee that was assigned by the Board of
> Supervisors to do some research on the land or property for a
> soccer stadium ? I haven't read anything about this on the paper since
> Leigh Weimers opinion last week.  Is it all a matter of just waiting
> or can we do anything in the meantime besides writing letters to the
> city and board.  I would really like to know who these people are and
> what isit that they are really doing if its open to the public.
> Was there a time frame or deadline that was given to them by the
> board.  I am very concerned about this matter and I would really like
> to know something about the issue. It's clear that it takes time for
> this to develop but what is the latest update.

Francisco, there's a Club Quake committee that's set up to work the
political angles on this -- in fact, you have the CQ committee to thank
for the Board of Supervisors' current interest in the stadium project.
Please do write your supervisor to let them know you support the
stadium. There will also be a number of opportunities to help in the
effort. More information will be posted here when it's available.

Cheers,
Jay

>>Just realized an old post of mine to this list gets recycled as one of
the
>>"Quotes of the Day" on the Casbah website. Thanks, guys, I hope my 15
>>minutes don't run out too soon!

There were a few posts of yours that made it to the site.  They were
just too damn funny to forever delete them from my inbox.

My personal favorite:

"Spartan Stadium is a sh!thole. It's our sh!thole, so we love it, the
way you love a mangy cat that's been in the family for so long you don't
begrudge when the old fart pisses on the wall."

Darrin

               GO QUAKES GO LET"S GET # 3 ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !

Just what I heard/read back in the day. I could be wrong. Thanks for
the clarity, Steve!

-Gavin

On Jun 14, 2004, at 12:53 PM, Larson, Steve wrote:

> I'm pretty sure Spartan was expanded to allow SJSU to meet the stadium
> requirements for Division 1A football (35K seats)  Fortunately at the
> same time, they did recognize soccer's need for a wider stadium and
> took out some of the arc in the corners.  SJSU would never have
> upgraded the stadium for soccer.  They are not that interested.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gavin O'Brien [mailto:gobrien@...]
> Sent: Friday, June 11, 2004 9:43 PM
> To: sanjose-mls@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [sanjose-mls] The Solution
>
>
> Here, here Francisco! We need a leader to organize us IMMEDIATELY so
> WE can speak to the SJSA and give them ideas while helping the true
> passionate Quake Supporters, (us), understand what lies ahead. If we
> lose the Quakes, what is there left of our city to be proud
> of...sporting wise? The Sharks were hijacked by Corporate America,
> (like the rest of the NHL), the year the Tank was completed, and the
> rest of the major leagues are in those towns to the north.
>
>
>
> Remember the old Earthquakes bumper sticker from the 70's that had
> the original logo with "Our Team" underneath it? That spoke to all of
> us San Joseans and all of the folks in the metropolitan area who were
> tired of supporting teams in Oakland and SF. The NASL granted
> Portsmouth's current chairman Milan Mandaric (sp?) the rights to a San
> Francisco franchise in 1973, but he refused to place the team there
> and insisted that it be located in totally unknown San Jose. The NASL
> threatened to pull the franchise if Mandaric didn't put his team in
> SF, but he stuck to his guns and the Earthquakes were born. We got
> lucky because of one man!
>
>
>
> San Jose lead the NASL in attendance averages for a few seasons
> before the Cosmos stocked up on fading legends from around the globe.
> Speaking of New York, they too got lucky because of one man, Pele.
>
>
>
> The West Stand upper deck at Spartan was built for the Earthquakes,
> obviously NOT for SJSU Football. Remember the other famous Earthquakes
> bumper sticker and slogan from the 70's..."Pack The Pit"! We use to
> PACK Spartan Stadium and scream our heads off for Our Team.
>
>
>
> MLS' first game was played in San Jose in 1996, allegedly because the
> league looked for a city with a tradition for great support with a
> small to medium sized stadium. The new League then let Nike name the
> new Earthquakes the Clash then placed them in the all time ugliest
> uniforms with the dumbest team logo ever created, so go figure.
>
>
>
> A lot of the 30 and 40 somethings in San Jose, like myself, grew up
> supporting the Earthquakes, and we have very fond memories of games at
> Spartan Stadium in the 70's and early 80's, despite having a team that
> never really won a thing except for the odd play off series, like the
> one against the hated Dallas Tornado where a plane flew over head with
> a banner in tow that said "Where the hell is Dallas???" after Dallas'
> head coach said "Where the hell IS San Jose?" in the newspaper a few
> days before the match, exposing his complete lack of geographic
> knowledge of the West Coast!
>
>
>
> What amazes me is that all of these people from my generation are NOT
> supporting the club today! I ask old friends constantly "Why don't you
> support the Quakes?", and more often than not their answer revolves
> around the Stadium and how it's "a dump". We all know we need a new
> stadium, and even non-fans know it. I am convinced like the rest of
> you that if we had our own SBC Park, (a place people enjoy being
> regardless of the activity taking place), the real attendance
> potential of the Earthquakes would be realized.
>
>
>
>
> Gavin O'Brien
>
> San Jose, CA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jun 11, 2004, at 4:57 PM, francisco quezada wrote:
>
>
>
>   Hey!
>
>     
>
>            What did you guys think about the article on todays Mercury
> news paper from Leigh Weimers  column?  I fully can understand that it
> comes down to the marketing & promotion of the Quakes but how can we
> get this across to the team ownership & how could we really make an
> imapact on the decisions that are being made daily. I 'm not to
> familiar on how this club runs or how it is structured  but can
> someone let me know if its true that the club is composed by a council
> or board members and if so how much power do we the fans have, and are
> we being represented by one of our own.  I really would like to help
> somehow and I believe that all of us can chip in somehow.  Let me know
> how I can help because I am really willing to volunteer,  money
> to me doesn't matter because its all about saving our Earthquakes. I
> am not an expert in marketing but if the team needs help out here in
> Salinas, Ca. I am willing to work as a volunteer. Remember that when
> there's  a will there's a way and I am really willing to work hard out
> here for this cause.   
>
>
>   GO  QUAKES ! ! ! !!
>
>
>
>    
>
>
>
>
> Mike Turco wrote:
>
> To my understanding, the 25 mile radius is an
>
> arbitrary mark set by the group compiling
>
> demographics.  They also set a 50 mile radius,
>
> considering that the effective reach (my term) of the
>
> organization. 
>
>
>
> Unlike (for example) Columbus, they noted that the Bay
>
> Area has unique geographic features (the Bay, clogged
>
> freeways, mountains, etc.) that limit travel in the
>
> region.  (The data presented was largely from an ESPN
>
> poll of professional sports fans).
>
>
>
> Knowing that so many attend from outside the San Jose
>
> area, I think its likely that the team reaches core
>
> soccer fans throughout the Bay Area, but has yet to
>
> reach the more casual fans.  Point being, it's less a
>
> question of distance and more a question of level of
>
> interest that the fans bring to the table.
>
>
>
> In a nutshell, I'm agreeing with Darrin a! nd saying the
>
> Quakes marketing is ineffective...
>
>
>
> Mike
>
> --- Darrin Howells wrote:
>
> > That is a really interesting point considering that,
>
> > seemingly, everyone
>
> > I know is from either outside, or way outside, the
>
> > SJ area.
>
> > 
>
> > My contention is that the team has never been well
>
> > marketed.  Assuming
>
> > that to be true, I wonder if this simply means that
>
> > the Quakes
>
> > concentrated marketing to a 25 mile radius, or does
>
> > it mean that those
>
> > people just show up because it was easy to get
>
> > there, they knew about it
>
> > due to word of mouth, or some other reason.
>
> > 
>
> > Darrin
>
> >
>
> > The Quakes penetrate the south bay market well
>
> > (within
>
> > a 25 mile radius).  Outside that radius, they are
>
> > considerably weaker.  The upside to this is that if
>
> > the Quakes penetrated the market at MLS league
>
> ! > averages, they could expect to draw 19,000 to 25,000
>
> > per game.
>
> >
>
> >
>
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>      
>
>            
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