The even was called when Satan try to eat Billy's ear.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, "TogaDude" <togadude@c...>
wrote:
> > Ok.  Never been to a crusade like that before so I didn't know
what
> all
> > was involved with it.  for all I know they could have been
pulling up
> dirt
> > clods and tossing them at people dressed in devil suits...lol!
>
> You're not far off.  When Satan himself materialized to do hand-to-
hand
> combat with Billy, his heavy cloven hooves really seemed to be
kicking
> up a lot of divots.
>
> You know I think I saw that being advertised on PPV.  Wasn't Tyson
vs. holyfield on the undercard?
> Toga
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Sorry for the off topic post, but Jeff & Jer and Star 100.7 FM are
sponsoring a fundraiser for the San Diego Chapter of the American Red
Cross to assist San Diego area victims. The event will be held at the
San Diego Sports Arena on 10/31/03 from 5-10 a.m. It will be a "drive
through" operation where you just place money or a check in the bag
and keep going.

Alternatively, you can donate be calling the San Diego Red Cross at
(619) 542-7688 or going to their web site at www.sdarc.org. Please
spread the word.

> Ok.  Never been to a crusade like that before so I didn't know what
all
> was involved with it.  for all I know they could have been pulling up
dirt
> clods and tossing them at people dressed in devil suits...lol!

You're not far off.  When Satan himself materialized to do hand-to-hand
combat with Billy, his heavy cloven hooves really seemed to be kicking
up a lot of divots.

You know I think I saw that being advertised on PPV.  Wasn't Tyson vs. holyfield
on the undercard?
Toga

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: TogaDude [mailto:togadude@...]
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2003 6:22 PM
> To: sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [San Diego Padres Pub] Closing Day
>
> Ok.  Never been to a crusade like that before so I didn't know what
all
> was involved with it.  for all I know they could have been pulling up
dirt
> clods and tossing them at people dressed in devil suits...lol!

You're not far off.  When Satan himself materialized to do hand-to-hand
combat with Billy, his heavy cloven hooves really seemed to be kicking
up a lot of divots.

Jim

Ok.  Never been to a crusade like that before so I didn't know what all was
involved with it.  for all I know they could have been pulling up dirt clods and
tossing them at people dressed in devil suits...lol!
Toga


I'm simply comparing what a Padres game or the closing ceremonies my
do to the field as compared to an even like the Billy Graham
Crusade.  A a crusade, you'd have thousands of people answering an
altar call or counseling those responding to the altar call.  I
figured that thousands of people walking around on the grass would
cause more damage then 3 guys in the outfiled chasing fly balls.



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I'm simply comparing what a Padres game or the closing ceremonies my
do to the field as compared to an even like the Billy Graham
Crusade.  A a crusade, you'd have thousands of people answering an
altar call or counseling those responding to the altar call.  I
figured that thousands of people walking around on the grass would
cause more damage then 3 guys in the outfiled chasing fly balls.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, "TogaDude" <togadude@c...>
wrote:
> The Billy Graham crusade??  How so?
>
>
> To suggest that the Chargers could, would or did issue any
ultimatum
> limiting the types of events that could be held at the Padres
closing
> day or any othe revent held there.  And if I owned the Chargers,
I'd
> be a lot more concerned about how an even like the Billy Graham
> Crussad would effect the field as opposed to the Padres last game
> there.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The Billy Graham crusade??  How so?


To suggest that the Chargers could, would or did issue any ultimatum
limiting the types of events that could be held at the Padres closing
day or any othe revent held there.  And if I owned the Chargers, I'd
be a lot more concerned about how an even like the Billy Graham
Crussad would effect the field as opposed to the Padres last game
there.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Any other half-season founders out there?  I imagine we'll be seated
close together (or on opposite sides of the infield).

Jim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: alexsndiego [mailto:alexsndiego@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2003 11:41 AM
> To: sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [San Diego Padres Pub] New Topic: Opening Day 2004
>
> There will no opening day tickets for general public sale for 2004.
> The break down is as follows:
>
> Guaranteed Opening Day Tickets (Limited to number of seats owned):
> Founders Club
> 81-game Holders
> 40 game Holders
>
> Pre-sale prior to public 20-day game (Limited to number of seats
> owned):
> 20 Game Holders (not guaranteed)
>
> Then Public Sale
>
> If the Padres cannot guarantee open day tickets to all of its season
> ticket holders (20-games), that means PETCO doesnt have enough seats
> for all its season ticket holders.  Its safe to say that the Public
> sale will be moot.
>
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There will no opening day tickets for general public sale for 2004.
The break down is as follows:

Guaranteed Opening Day Tickets (Limited to number of seats owned):
Founders Club
81-game Holders
40 game Holders

Pre-sale prior to public 20-day game (Limited to number of seats
owned):
20 Game Holders (not guaranteed)

Then Public Sale

If the Padres cannot guarantee open day tickets to all of its season
ticket holders (20-games), that means PETCO doesnt have enough seats
for all its season ticket holders.  Its safe to say that the Public
sale will be moot.

You know, I've read that summary 3 times down and don't still any
language that states anything along the lines you have suggested.
The City can't "alter" Qualcomm (Section 23), the City must
repair "severe damage" (Section 20) and the City must maintain the
field and restore it after events held there (Section 11).

To suggest that the Chargers could, would or did issue any ultimatum
limiting the types of events that could be held at the Padres closing
day or any othe revent held there.  And if I owned the Chargers, I'd
be a lot more concerned about how an even like the Billy Graham
Crussad would effect the field as opposed to the Padres last game
there.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, "TogaDude" <togadude@c...>
wrote:
> No.  It stated very clearly that any event that might damage the
playing surface of the field, the charges can disallow.
> Toga
>
> The first part of your statement is accurate, the second is not.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

No.  It stated very clearly that any event that might damage the playing surface
of the field, the charges can disallow.
Toga

The first part of your statement is accurate, the second is not.



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

The first part of your statement is accurate, the second is not.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, "TogaDude" <togadude@c...>
wrote:
> Nope.  Any conflicts of scheduling the chargers have the final say
ando events that might cause a desultory effect to the playing
field, the chargers can have canceled.
>
>
> Incorrect.  Please see my previous post.
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

Nope.  Any conflicts of scheduling the chargers have the final say ando events
that might cause a desultory effect to the playing field, the chargers can have
canceled.


Incorrect.  Please see my previous post.



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Incorrect.  Please see my previous post.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, "TogaDude" <togadude@c...>
wrote:
> The chargers pretty much have the final say so on matters at the Q.
> Toga
>
>
> sorry, wrong.. it's not just the banners.. it's a LOT more than
that...
> please read this
> http://www.sandiego.gov/chargersissues/pdf/contractoverview.pdf if
you
> think it's just advertising banners
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I read the documents and it says nothing about giving the Chargers
any say about what types of events could be held at the Stadium.  To
say that the Chargers would have any say over the Padres' closing
ceremony would be grossly inaccurate.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, Cathie
<justtemporary@e...> wrote:
> sorry, wrong.. it's not just the banners.. it's a LOT more than
that...
> please read this
> http://www.sandiego.gov/chargersissues/pdf/contractoverview.pdf if
you
> think it's just advertising banners
>
> collectionlaw wrote:
>
> >Although the Chargers now receive all revenue generated by the
> >advertising banners, that's not the same as "pretty much
controlling
> >things" at the Q.  It is unlikely that the Chargers had
much "say"
> >about anything beyond requesting that steps be taken to protect
the
> >turf.
> >
> >--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, Cathie
<justtemporary@e...>
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I think the Chargers also probably set some limits on what could
> >>
> >>
> >and
> >
> >
> >>couldn't be done.  For those of you who don't know, they have
> >>
> >>
> >pretty
> >
> >
> >>much controlled things since Susan's Folly (Mayor Golding)
handed
> >>
> >>
> >it to
> >
> >
> >>the Chargers on a silver platter
> >>
> >>TogaDude wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>well that certainly sounds dissapointing.  You'd think after
all
> >>>
> >>>
> >the hassle they would give the old q a big send off into the
great
> >oblivion.
> >
> >
> >>>Toga
> >>> ----- Original Message -----
> >>> From: sethski75
> >>> To: sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:46 PM
> >>> Subject: [San Diego Padres Pub] Closing Day
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Don't get me wrong there were some nice moments, Cammy being
one
> >>>
> >>>
> >of
> >
> >
> >>> them and Mike Darr Jr. being another but the cermony as a
whole
> >>> seemed to be thrown together last minute.  First, it took the
> >>>
> >>>
> >grounds
> >
> >
> >>> crew way too long to dig up home plate, it looked like they
> >>>
> >>>
> >didn't
> >
> >
> >>> know what they were doing.  And really can't we get a new home
> >>>
> >>>
> >plate
> >
> >
> >>> anyway?  They also should have taken the time to actually
> >>>
> >>>
> >announce
> >
> >
> >>> the players as they came out onto the field.  I know they did
> >>>
> >>>
> >that
> >
> >
> >>> Saturday night, but it would have been nice to hear who was
> >>>
> >>>
> >coming
> >
> >
> >>> out.  Some players got recognized and a lot of the older
> >>>
> >>>
> >original
> >
> >
> >>> Pads didn't.  The 35 second countdown was pretty lame.
> >>>
> >>>
> >Those "pyro-
> >
> >
> >>> technics" that brought Trevor out were weak.  It looked like
> >>>
> >>>
> >some
> >
> >
> >>> almost burned his eyes.  And when Jerry came out (after most
> >>>
> >>>
> >people
> >
> >
> >>> thought it was over and began to leave) and he said to hang a
> >>>
> >>>
> >star on
> >
> >
> >>> the Q, they should have actually thrown the star one last time
> >>>
> >>>
> >at the
> >
> >
> >>> Q.  At the very least put a star on the scoreboard, something,
> >>> anything.  It all seemed very amateur and very anti-climatic.
> >>>
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The chargers pretty much have the final say so on matters at the Q.
Toga


sorry, wrong.. it's not just the banners.. it's a LOT more than that...
please read this
http://www.sandiego.gov/chargersissues/pdf/contractoverview.pdf if you
think it's just advertising banners



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sorry, wrong.. it's not just the banners.. it's a LOT more than that...
please read this
http://www.sandiego.gov/chargersissues/pdf/contractoverview.pdf if you
think it's just advertising banners

collectionlaw wrote:

>Although the Chargers now receive all revenue generated by the
>advertising banners, that's not the same as "pretty much controlling
>things" at the Q.  It is unlikely that the Chargers had much "say"
>about anything beyond requesting that steps be taken to protect the
>turf.
>
>--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, Cathie <justtemporary@e...>
>wrote:
>
>
>>I think the Chargers also probably set some limits on what could
>>
>>
>and
>
>
>>couldn't be done.  For those of you who don't know, they have
>>
>>
>pretty
>
>
>>much controlled things since Susan's Folly (Mayor Golding) handed
>>
>>
>it to
>
>
>>the Chargers on a silver platter
>>
>>TogaDude wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>well that certainly sounds dissapointing.  You'd think after all
>>>
>>>
>the hassle they would give the old q a big send off into the great
>oblivion.
>
>
>>>Toga
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: sethski75
>>> To: sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com
>>> Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:46 PM
>>> Subject: [San Diego Padres Pub] Closing Day
>>>
>>>
>>> Don't get me wrong there were some nice moments, Cammy being one
>>>
>>>
>of
>
>
>>> them and Mike Darr Jr. being another but the cermony as a whole
>>> seemed to be thrown together last minute.  First, it took the
>>>
>>>
>grounds
>
>
>>> crew way too long to dig up home plate, it looked like they
>>>
>>>
>didn't
>
>
>>> know what they were doing.  And really can't we get a new home
>>>
>>>
>plate
>
>
>>> anyway?  They also should have taken the time to actually
>>>
>>>
>announce
>
>
>>> the players as they came out onto the field.  I know they did
>>>
>>>
>that
>
>
>>> Saturday night, but it would have been nice to hear who was
>>>
>>>
>coming
>
>
>>> out.  Some players got recognized and a lot of the older
>>>
>>>
>original
>
>
>>> Pads didn't.  The 35 second countdown was pretty lame.
>>>
>>>
>Those "pyro-
>
>
>>> technics" that brought Trevor out were weak.  It looked like
>>>
>>>
>some
>
>
>>> almost burned his eyes.  And when Jerry came out (after most
>>>
>>>
>people
>
>
>>> thought it was over and began to leave) and he said to hang a
>>>
>>>
>star on
>
>
>>> the Q, they should have actually thrown the star one last time
>>>
>>>
>at the
>
>
>>> Q.  At the very least put a star on the scoreboard, something,
>>> anything.  It all seemed very amateur and very anti-climatic.
>>>
>>>
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Although the Chargers now receive all revenue generated by the
advertising banners, that's not the same as "pretty much controlling
things" at the Q.  It is unlikely that the Chargers had much "say"
about anything beyond requesting that steps be taken to protect the
turf.

--- In sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com, Cathie <justtemporary@e...>
wrote:
> I think the Chargers also probably set some limits on what could
and
> couldn't be done.  For those of you who don't know, they have
pretty
> much controlled things since Susan's Folly (Mayor Golding) handed
it to
> the Chargers on a silver platter
>
> TogaDude wrote:
>
> >well that certainly sounds dissapointing.  You'd think after all
the hassle they would give the old q a big send off into the great
oblivion.
> >Toga
> >  ----- Original Message -----
> >  From: sethski75
> >  To: sandiegopadrespub@yahoogroups.com
> >  Sent: Wednesday, October 01, 2003 10:46 PM
> >  Subject: [San Diego Padres Pub] Closing Day
> >
> >
> >  Don't get me wrong there were some nice moments, Cammy being one
of
> >  them and Mike Darr Jr. being another but the cermony as a whole
> >  seemed to be thrown together last minute.  First, it took the
grounds
> >  crew way too long to dig up home plate, it looked like they
didn't
> >  know what they were doing.  And really can't we get a new home
plate
> >  anyway?  They also should have taken the time to actually
announce
> >  the players as they came out onto the field.  I know they did
that
> >  Saturday night, but it would have been nice to hear who was
coming
> >  out.  Some players got recognized and a lot of the older
original
> >  Pads didn't.  The 35 second countdown was pretty lame.
Those "pyro-
> >  technics" that brought Trevor out were weak.  It looked like
some
> >  almost burned his eyes.  And when Jerry came out (after most
people
> >  thought it was over and began to leave) and he said to hang a
star on
> >  the Q, they should have actually thrown the star one last time
at the
> >  Q.  At the very least put a star on the scoreboard, something,
> >  anything.  It all seemed very amateur and very anti-climatic.
> >
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lol.  I forgot you people in san diego paid a dear price for that ballpark.
Toga

Oh, dear, DON'T say Stadium LOL  We are about 15 minutes from there
(Ballpark) but downtown will mean more traffic, less parking, etc.  I
was just very spoiled.. now I actually will have to THINK about it!



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yeah, I knew the chargers pretty much controlled the place.  They get all of the
ad revenue from the stadium which seems rather unfair since they only play 8
games there most seasons(not counting pre-season or the extremely rare playoff
game)
Toga

I think the Chargers also probably set some limits on what could and
couldn't be done.  For those of you who don't know, they have pretty
much controlled things since Susan's Folly (Mayor Golding) handed it to
the Chargers on a silver platter



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Oh, dear, DON'T say Stadium LOL  We are about 15 minutes from there
(Ballpark) but downtown will mean more traffic, less parking, etc.  I
was just very spoiled.. now I actually will have to THINK about it!

TogaDude wrote:

>How far you going to be from the new stadium?
>Toga
>
>we went all three nights of the final weekend... even snagged a few
>autographs and one of my husband's co workers won one of the jerseys.
>Can't believe my 5 minute drive is no more to see my Pads!
>
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I totally agree!

TogaDude wrote:

>I seriously doubt that the Padres have become a mostly white starting lineup by
design.  It's pure random chance that they aren't very diverse.  I don't feel
it's a big deal or any slight to any of the various races and it's just being
ultra-sensitive to dwell on it.  Khalil Green is a white guy as well.  I live in
KY and nobody here cries foul because our beloved wildcats have an all black
starting five.  All white, All Black, all hispanic, I don't care I'll cheer for
the Padres no matter their racial make up.
>Toga
>
>
>I am writing this regarding message 1064 by collectionlaw.
>
>I totally agree that the Padres are not the most diverse team in the
>league last year.
>
>C: Gary Bennett (currently released)
>1B: Phil Nevin
>2B: M. LO
>SS: Khalil (does anyone know his ethnicity...Khalil sounds Middle
>Eastern)
>3B: Sean Burroughs
>OF: Giles, Kotsay, Klesko, Nady
>
>"Token Players"
>Gary Matthews
>Luther Hackman (glad he is gone)
>Humberto Quintero
>Ollie (traded)
>Wikkie (sent to AAA)
>Ramon Vasquez
>
>Hopefully we can add talent to the 2004 team and have some
>diversity.  With the likes of Pudge, Javier Vasquez, Bartolo Colon,
>Tejeda (not likely), Matsui(not likely).
>
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Please remember that the FANS chose the "legends" and fans aren't always
the most informed

TogaDude wrote:

>Davis did have one excellent season during his cy young winning campaign. 
Gaylord Perry was definately a player that deserved to be at any honoring of
legendary padres players.
>Toga
>
>Our the other Cy Young winner Gaylord Perry, who also had 300 wins.
>
>I loved to was Davis pitch when he was good for the Padres.  He best
>the best curve by I've ever seen when he was good.  I loved watching
>him pitch againt Eddie Murray when he was on the Dodgers.  It was
>usually 3 straight curves that were almost hitting Murray in the
>ankles and he usually struck out.
>
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I am going to park at 32nd Street and take that trolley or walk on nice
days/nights.  I also intend to "park at the park" sit as much as I can

alexsndiego wrote:

>Any season ticket holder here who got their renewal package?
>
>The Padres only contracted with ACE Parking thus limiting the amount
>of reserved parking season tickets can hold.  It sucks!
>
>Take the Trolley (but that will be a cattle herd after the game).
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okay, are you guys talking players or front office?  I don't think Kevin
Towers gives a tinkers damn about a player's skin colour as long as they
can play (or are within his budget?)  btw, Mark Loretta is half Mexican,
on his mom's side, from what Matt and Mark have said... oh, well, I
don't get the point of this subject anyway!

alexsndiego wrote:

>I am writing this regarding message 1064 by collectionlaw.
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>I totally agree that the Padres are not the most diverse team in the
>league last year.
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>C: Gary Bennett (currently released)
>1B: Phil Nevin
>2B: M. LO
>SS: Khalil (does anyone know his ethnicity...Khalil sounds Middle
>Eastern)
>3B: Sean Burroughs
>OF: Giles, Kotsay, Klesko, Nady
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>"Token Players"
>Gary Matthews
>Luther Hackman (glad he is gone)
>Humberto Quintero
>Ollie (traded)
>Wikkie (sent to AAA)
>Ramon Vasquez
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>Hopefully we can add talent to the 2004 team and have some
>diversity.  With the likes of Pudge, Javier Vasquez, Bartolo Colon,
>Tejeda (not likely), Matsui(not likely).
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He came over in 1987 and stayed thru 1989  (for more info
http://www.baseballlibrary.com/baseballlibrary/ballplayers/D/Davis_Mark.stm)

alexsndiego wrote:

>Mark Davis did have a great but very short stay with the Padres.
>Then either management or Mark decided not to stay with Padres.  He
>was never the same pitcher after he left.
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>How long was he with the Padres?  I only remember one great year with
>the team.  He was dumb to leave the team for Kansas City.  Of course
>management back than was the best.
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Gaylord always made it exciting... those fly balls caught against the
wall... of course, not all the time between pitches...

Davis had some good years.. always wondered how much his slide was mental...

collectionlaw wrote:

>Our the other Cy Young winner Gaylord Perry, who also had 300 wins.
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>I loved to was Davis pitch when he was good for the Padres.  He best
>the best curve by I've ever seen when he was good.  I loved watching
>him pitch againt Eddie Murray when he was on the Dodgers.  It was
>usually 3 straight curves that were almost hitting Murray in the
>ankles and he usually struck out.
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>>What about our cy Young winner Davis?
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>>  Subject: [San Diego Padres Pub] Legendary Padres?????
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>>  The only true legendary Padres who we can REALLY call a Padre are
>>  Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, & Randy Jones.  Almost everyone else
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>>  more success elsewhere (before or after). See Roberto Alomar,
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>Benito
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>>  Santiago, Ozzie Smith, Kevin McReynolds, Steve Garvey, Goose
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>Gossage,
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>>  Rollie Fingers, Steve Finley.  I would say a legendary Padre
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>>  have to be on the team more than a couple years.
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>>  I am finally glad that ownership is trying to build a tradition
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>Winfield
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>>  in the front office.  This legitimized the Padres.  The Padres
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and I have truly mixed feelings about Winfield... but, Tony and Randy...
they have been here and stayed around.  And I have never heard Randy
turn down an autograph, photo, etc.  Oh, yeah, he won that little old Cy
Young Award... not that anyone would know by meeting him!

alexsndiego wrote:

>The only true legendary Padres who we can REALLY call a Padre are
>Tony Gwynn, Dave Winfield, & Randy Jones.  Almost everyone else had
>more success elsewhere (before or after). See Roberto Alomar, Benito
>Santiago, Ozzie Smith, Kevin McReynolds, Steve Garvey, Goose Gossage,
>Rollie Fingers, Steve Finley.  I would say a legendary Padre would
>have to be on the team more than a couple years.
>
>I am finally glad that ownership is trying to build a tradition in
>San Diego.  Their biggest move was, of course, hiring Dave Winfield
>in the front office.  This legitimized the Padres.  The Padres used
>to never to this.
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the all time team (notice how Kevin Brown wasn't even mentioned even tho
he was on the list?) was introduced on Saturday, if I remember
correctly.  Sunday was a day for memories, you didn't have to be a
legendary player to be on the field that day

sethski75 wrote:

>I don't think you had to be a legendary player to be there.  It looks
>like the Pads took whomever they could get.  Archi Cianfranco was
>there!!  But where was Carmelo or Sixto?
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>>Kruk isn't exactly a legendary player for the Padres.  His best
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>seasons were in Philly.  guys like Gwynn, Winfield, Benes, Caminiti,
>Davis, Whitson, Templeton are some of the guys I would expect to see
>there.
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>>Toga
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>>The Padres didn't exactly treat him well while they showed him the
>>door.  I'm surprised that Kevin McReynolds showed given how bad
>>Ballard Smith used to bad-mouth him.
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Ballard Smith is long gone.  Krucky did want to be here, according to
what Matt and Mark had said

collectionlaw wrote:

>The Padres didn't exactly treat him well while they showed him the
>door.  I'm surprised that Kevin McReynolds showed given how bad
>Ballard Smith used to bad-mouth him.
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>>From what I understand he has taken his ball and gone home.
>>Toga
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>>I thought the whole ceremony was extremely cheesy and lame.  I was
>>extremely dissappointed. They couldve done better I thought.
>>
>>They kept playing that Garvey homerun over and over and over and
>>over...all weekend.  It was a great moment, but c'mon!
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>>Also, Where was John Kruk?
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