Hi guys ! How is everyones's summer coming along? Well I thought I
would break the cyber silence and ask a question: Are there any
figure skating events being held during these next few months? Also,
I hear emanuel has grown his hair longer! Are there possibly any
pictures suporting this because I really want to see this "new look"
that he has! Well that is all I have to say for now!
  Take care all,
            Humreen

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Emanuel Sandhu
Skates to Gold in 'Journey of Man'

  Emanuel Sandhu evoked a sense of freedom and flight in his enchanting
interpretation of Cirque de Soleil's 'Journey of Man' at Winnipeg Nationals last
month. His dark eyes gleamed and he smiled radiantly as his blades spun into
seemingly effortless jumps, flowing spins, and agile spirals. He raised his arms
and snapped his fingers to begin a jazzy dance sequence, and upon concluding the
program bent down to touch the ice in triumph. The spectacular, near flawless
performance earned him the title of Canadian Champion, and as unanimous first
place ordinals were announced he "squealed like Tara Lipinski at Nagano, but no
words would come out". Coach Joanne McLeod nearly lost her voice too, leaping
out of her seat to shriek and clap. The brilliantly executed program could have
challenged even six-time champion Elvis Stojko, absent due to injury, and Skate
Canada Director General David Dore confirmed that Sandhu's skate was "worthy of
a world medal".

For those who know and love Emanuel's skating, regardless of whether he wins or
loses, lands or falls, 'Journey of Man' unfolded into a breathtaking, intimate
and emotionally inspiring skate, which expressed the 'Journey of Emanuel'. That
journey is a personal odyssey from childhood to manhood, a journey defined by
tears, sweat, epiphanies, sweet victories, and devastating disappointments.

Sandhu, a Richmond Hill native, burst into the skating scene in the 1997-1998
season. He became the Canadian Junior Champion and catapulted to second place
behind Stojko at his first Senior Nationals by landing nine out of ten triples
in a stunning performance. The media and skating community exalted him,
considering him the 'heir apparent' to Stojko. Next fall he won his first
International senior medal, a bronze, at the Trophee Lalilique.

He had arrived at this juncture of his journey as if riding the crest of a high
wave. But Sandhu was unfamiliar with the harsh glare of the spotlight and the
demands of his pop-star celebrity. The wave crashed, and Sandhu faltered. His
potential became a burden as he repeatedly failed to live up to expectations. He
melted down in the qualifying rounds of his first World Championship and was
eliminated from competing. "It was heart-wrenching," Sandhu recalls, "like
having battery acid thrown at my heart." He finished 18th at his second worlds,
and struggled through the following season, which was uneasy and unnerving.
Always captivating to watch, he fluttered around the edges of his undeniable
artistry. Skate Canada elected not to send him to Worlds, and the media thrashed
and throttled him, redefining the skating phenom as 'moody prima donna'.

"Everyone forgets that I was just 17 when I started getting all this attention,"
Sandhu explains. "Being 17 is hard enough, but I'd been fingered to carry on the
legacy of Canadian male champions. It was difficult. My family wasn't stable and
neither was my personality. I wanted to win every time and was afraid of
failing. I grew up on TV. It was a roller coaster ride, and I was too
inexperienced to handle it"

  That roller coaster ride began when Sandhu's Italian mother, Enza, enrolled him
in ballet class at four. His outstanding talent was apparent, and at nine he was
accepted to study at the prestigious National Ballet School of Canada in
Toronto. He started figure skating at about the same time, falling in love with
the sport even though his second hand hockey skates were several sizes too big
for him. Joanne McLeod noticed him "skating like a dancer and attempting a two
foot spin with his ankles inverting in his oversized skates". His technical
abilities were impeccable, he progressed through the ranks quickly, and Mcleod
selected him to train at York Region's Skating Academy.

Meanwhile, life at home was turbulent. Emanuel's Sikh father and Enza were
incompatible, and the battleground of their marriage finally erupted in divorce.
Emanuel and his two younger brothers haven't seen much of their dad since.
Emanuel somehow persisted with skating despite the rigors of full-time ballet
school and the strain of his family crisis.

Few of Sandhu's fans knew that the 'boy wonder' had lost his father at the
vulnerable age of 15. McLeod had vowed to stand by him no matter what, and both
relocated to BC a year and a half ago. Emanuel has tested her commitment and
patience, but she can't but help love her impish, vivacious and bashful protégé.
Watching him frantically lace up his skates on the ice after his name had been
called in a competition last season, she shook her head and smiled helplessly in
a gesture of fondness.

"In practice he's top five in the world," McLeod said last spring. "His
abilities are as good or better than others, but his achievements are not. He
skates with his heart instead of his intelligence. If he makes a mistake, he
stays upset. He gets overexcited before competing, and then he gets tired or has
a mental lapse or mood swing. He doesn't know how to attack his jumps, then
drive them through a complete routine. It's not about isolated elements." She
became extremely frustrated with Emanuel improvising to Madonna tunes during
lessons while neglecting his practice routines. McLeod admitted he "needed to
make some changes in order to meet his goals, and be prepared to get
psychological help". Hurt and angry, Sandhu descended into depression and
reconsidered his future. He lost his grip on the thread connecting him to
skating and McLeod let him go. "When the rope snaps you will fall into life,"
she said. And then where will you go?"

Emanuel abandoned the sheltered niche of figure skating and its rigidly
structured life-style. He hung out with non-skater friends and partied. He
wistfully notes that "I'd never socialized before. I was always skating or
dancing. I've never had more than a few days off in a row, and really needed to
take that trip." It had been the first time ever that he didn't want to skate,
but he genuinely missed it, and resumed training with a renewed fervor and
dedication.

Sandhu is happier now. His demeanor is now more mature. Close-cropped hair opens
up his striking face and he wears his long wool winter coat and scarf with
panache'. He exudes passion and confidence on the ice. Having realized he wants
wanted to be "the next Sandhu, not the next Stojko", he has stepped out of the
King's shadow to command the spotlight as a champion, a man, and an emerging
artist.

Sandhu and Stojko are a study in contrasts. Emanuel is exotic, sleek, and lithe
as a gazelle. Elvis has a black belt in karate, and is stocky and powerful.
Emanuel translates various dance forms into skating, while Elvis's skating
interprets the philosophy and movement of martial artistry. Elvis is rugged and
aggressive, Emanuel sensitive and mercurial. Yet, they are the only two Canadian
men to land the quad triple at Nationals, and have the common denominator of
distinct originality. Stojko created a new style for men's skating, and
Emanuel's skating has an ethereal quality and an unparalleled brand of grace. In
McLeod's opinion the only skater comparable to him is the classically elegant
John Curry, 1976 World and Olympic Champion. Sandhu also has an artist genius
which sets him apart from other skaters, reminiscent of the flamboyant Toller
Cranston. Both are individualistic, cultured, eccentric and stylish. Cranston
introduced a unique creative flair to the sport in the 70s, and Sandhu further
explores its creative possibilities with his inventiveness and melodic, balletic
sensibility. McLeod chose 'Journey of Man' because it allowed Emanuel to express
different facets of himself --"his quirky, playful side, his emotional depths of
joy and sadness, and his passion for dramatic expression."

  Cranston is now a renowned painter, and also writes and choreographs. His
fashion design credits include Sandhu's 'Journey of Man' costume. He admires
Sandhu, likening him to the rare, revered 17th century Stradivarius violin which
'sings like an angel". Sandhu's creativity is as versatile as Cranston's, and he
says "There are so many things I want to do other than skating." Singing and
dancing in CATS or R.E.N.T on Broadway; performing in anything Latin. Acting,
too. He mimics a character from the popular FOX show Mad TV so well on his voice
mail that callers think they have reached someone other than Emanuel.

The day after Nationals wrapped up Sandhu was up at 6 a.m. for a television. At
the Winnipeg Airport he waits to fly home to Vancouver. He has dark circles
under his eyes, and he reads a biography of fashion designer Christian Dior. "I
just don't want to think about skating for awhile," he laments. "All I want to
do is sleep". However the Four Continents Competition in Salt Lake City is just
two weeks away, and he's confirmed to skate at the World Championships in
Vancouver this March. The media and skating world are focused on him once again,
awaiting proof that he can maintain a world class presence in skating. "I
finally understand fully that I can be one of best in the world," Sandhu says,
confident that his victory was the precipice of a breakthrough year
internationally. He's gained experience coping with the emotions of both winning
and losing, and now skates for the love of it. "I'm aware of my talent, and if I
put it all together, good things will happen. Medals aren't even the icing on
the cake," he says.

"I have so much respect for him" McLeod says. "He's a brave and courageous young
man. I'm proud to have participated in his career."

"I guess I can retire now," Sandhu joked in Winnipeg after fulfilling his goal
to win the National Title. Fellow artist Toller Cranston, 52, who has retired,
titled his latest book is "When Hell Freezes Over, Should I bring my Skates.

Emanuel will certainly be bringing his skates along for the next lap of his
journey. "This is the beginning of my training. This is where I'm starting.," he
said at Skate America last fall. Hopefully, the best is yet to come.

Should Hell happen to freeze over, they should both bring their skates. I
wouldn't want to miss the show.

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October 22 - 26, 2003 Reading, USA Smart Ones Skate America International

Oct. 30 - Nov. 2, 2003 Mississauga, Canada MasterCard Skate Canada
International

November 5 - 9, 2003 *Beijing, China Cup of China

November 14 - 16, 2003 Paris, France Trophée Lalique

November 19 - 23, 2003 Moscow, Russia Cup of Russia - Gallina Blanca

November 26 - 30, 2003 Asahikawa, Japan NHK Trophy

December 12 - 14, 2003 Colorado Springs, USA Grand Prix of Figure Skating
Final

* Due to the SARS situation, the allotment of this venue remains
provisional for final decision by the ISU at the latest by August 1, 2003.
In the case that the event in China is not confirmed, an alternative
location/venue in another country shall be chosen by the ISU and announced
early in August. The skaters assigned to the Chinese event would in this
case be assigned to the event at the alternate location/venue.

GP_Entries_Men_2003 as of: 24.05.2003 - 16:00

ISU Grand Prix of Figure Skating 2003/2004
ENTRIES MEN
Smart Ones Skate America USA
Timothy GOEBEL USA
Takeshi HONDA JPN (A)
Michael WEISS USA
Invited
Ivan DINEV BUL
Min ZHANG CHN
Vakhtang MURVANIDZE GEO
Stefan LINDEMANN GER
Andrejs VLASCENKO GER
Ilia KLIMKIN RUS
Stanislav TIMCHENKO RUS
Trifun ZIVANOVIC SCG
Ryan JAHNKE USA

MasterCard Skate Canada International CAN
Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS (A)
Takeshi HONDA JPN
Chengjiang LI CHN
Invited
Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL
Jeffrey BUTTLE CAN
Emanuel SANDHU CAN
Elvis STOJKO CAN
Stanick JEANNETTE FRA
Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN
Stanislav TIMCHENKO RUS
Stéphane LAMBIEL SUI
Ryan JAHNKE USA

Cup of China CHN
Timothy GOEBEL USA
Chengjiang LI CHN
Brian JOUBERT FRA (A)
Invited
Emanuel SANDHU CAN
Elvis STOJKO CAN
Song GAO CHN
Min ZHANG CHN
Tomas VERNER CZE
Vincent RESTENCOURT FRA
Ilia KLIMKIN RUS
Alexei YAGUDIN RUS
Matthew SAVOIE USA

Trophée Lalique FRA
Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS
Michael WEISS USA
Brian JOUBERT FRA
Invited
Kevin VAN DER PERREN BEL
Fedor ANDREEV CAN
Yunfei LI CHN
Frederic DAMBIER FRA
Stanick JEANNETTE FRA
Daisuke TAKAHASHI JPN
Alexander SHUBIN RUS
Alexei YAGUDIN RUS
Gregor URBAS SLO

Cup of Russia Galina Blanca RUS
Evgeni PLUSHENKO RUS
Chengjiang LI CHN (A)
Michael WEISS USA
Invited
Sergei DAVYDOV BLR
Ivan DINEV BUL
Ben FERREIRA CAN
Frederic DAMBIER FRA
Silvio SMALUN GER
Kensuke NAKANIWA JPN
Alexander ABT RUS
Alexander SHUBIN RUS
Stéphane LAMBIEL SUI

NHK Trophy JPN
Timothy GOEBEL USA (A)
Takeshi HONDA JPN
Brian JOUBERT FRA
Invited
Sergei DAVYDOV BLR
Jeffrey BUTTLE CAN
Ben FERREIRA CAN
Song GAO CHN
Yunfei LI CHN
Yamato TAMURA JPN
Gheorghe CHIPER ROM
Alexander ABT RUS
Matthew SAVOIE USA

Do any figure skating competitions
> etc. take place during these seasons do we just have to wait
> imppartiently for the cooler months to come along ?

There are summer competitions.  I think most of the Canadian sections have
websites which list of their competitions.  For example, the Central Ontario
Section's website is www.skatecanada-centralontario.com.   Their next big
competition is Thornhill in August.  I can't remember the url for Western
Ontario, but they have a couple of competitions in July.  I very much doubt
that any of these would invole Emanuel, as he wouldn't likely travel from BC
to compete, but I can tell you from last year that the Thornhill competition
was a lot of fun to watch, with Takeshi Honda, Jeff Buttle, Chris Mabee,
Jennifer Robinson, etc

Hello everyone ! How are u all doing ?
Well The warm weather is coming up ahead (hopefully) and everyone
seems very busy lately since there haven't been many postings
lately. Well, I guess I shall break this form of *cyber silence*
with one of my many questions. Do any figure skating competitions
etc. take place during these seasons do we just have to wait
imppartiently for the cooler months to come along ? If, not then
does anyone know if there are opportunities to see Emanuel whether
hes visiting areas or something like that ? If Anyone has this info,
it would be great to notify the more impaptient ones like me !
                                           Take care everyone!
                                                    Humreena

Hello everyone,

I've been on this list for a while but this is my first post.
So I think I might as well introduce myself.
I'm Japanese and live in Japan. I was not an avid skating fan but
when I happened to see Emanuel skate at last year's Skate Canada,
I instantly fell in love with his skating. Since then, I've been
following this sport (especially Emanuel) very closely. Of course
I've also read all the past posts of this list and now I know he
has quite a history, to say the least. ;-)

OK (clears throat), I really hate to ask a big favour like this
but...if someone has Emanuel's compilation tapes, is it possible
to make copies for me?
I have pretty much everything from this past season
(including Top Jump Competition in France) but am desperately
seeking for his performances, fluff pieces, etc. prior to that.
I don't have much to trade so I'm willing to pay for the cost.
Plus I can make a copy of my Top Jump tape.(I believe they didn't
show this comp in Canada.) The whole concept of this comp seems
like a kind of joke but his 4-3 combo is a beauty. I personally
wouldn't mind a bit if they had placed Emanuel ahead of Yagudin
though I admire Yagudin's jumps very much.

If anyone here could help me out, I would be more than grateful!
Thanks in advance.

Best regards from Japan,


Naomi
mailto:sakurada@...

Your site is looking great and you have some really nice pictures up
there, too -- more than a few that I haven't seen before now.  I've got
you bookmarked and look forward to checking out your updates :-)

Vashty

Hey everyone ... I've uploaded tons of pictures to my Emanuel Sandhu website,
and many more will follow in the next few weeks!! Go check it out, and please
sign my guestbook - I'd love to hear what you all think of the website so
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Hi All,

I saw this skating book mentioned on Skatefans and thought some of you might be
interested.  The title is "Culture on Ice: Figure Skating and Cultural Meaning"
and the author is Ellyn Kestnbaum who some of you might know or know of.

A short description is available at  www.upne.com/0-8195-6641-1.html  which says
in part:

" In this engaging new book, Ellyn Kestnbaum examines figure skating from
multiple perspectives: as sport, as performance, and even as spectacle, guiding
the reader through both the technical aspects of skating and the sometimes
convoluted rules of figure skating competition."

On the Skatefans list, Ellyn quoted another endorsement which didn't make it to
the on-line blurb:

"A brilliant exploration of the fascinating world of figure skating. It
includes a detailed history of the sport from its earliest beginnings
and delves into its many facets. A superb and thoughtful work."
--Eugene Turner, figure skating champion (U.S. men's champion in 1940
and '41)

For a better deal on the paperback cost, go to:

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/081956642X/ref=ed_oe_p/002-4152746\
-8920807?v=glance&s=books&st=*

Hazel


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I block/delete the spammers and they come back in another guise. I may
have to approve all signups to the group from now on.

Vashty

--- hazanjo <hazanjo@...> wrote: >

>
>   **His marks were a bit on the low side, I agree.
> The thing which hurt him the most, I think, was his
> placement in the SP.  I can't say for sure because
> we didn't see all of the SPs, but had he not gotten
> a deduction on the flying sit spin, I feel he could
> have been as high as 6th in the SP which would
> likely have placed him in the last group to skate.

Yes, I think the deduction for the spin killed him the
SP.  Also, the jump landings were "tight" so he may
have been deducted .1 for quality or something.

>>   **I'm not sure what you mean by "Dynamics".  I
> think that the problem for all the skaters next
> season will be the new judging system as the
> criteria seem quite different from the little I've
> seen and heard.  It's not at all clear how the 2nd
> mark qualities will be rewarded, so Emanuel really
> needs to focus on clean elements.

Yes, he does.

I hate the sounds of this new CoP system.
> >
>   **Of all the programs I've seen from Emanuel, this
> is the program I've liked the least.  I'm hoping
> that they choose next year's program with some
> thought to continuity and a concept which is more
> mainstream.

Agree.  I liked the middle blues section but the last
piece of music didn't work.  I'd like to see him do a
tango or spanish type program next year.
>

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BTW, I forgot to add that Emanuel got a standing
ovation from all the Canadians in the audience (of
which there were many) after his LP.  Very good
response from the Americans too!

It was a good performance.  Probably the LP he did
this year.

  --- Becky <rebdain@...> wrote: >  ---
maurizio20012000 <Klaus.Albin@...>
> wrote:
> > I could watch Emanuel watching himself the program
> > of Stephane Lambiel
> > in Washington. I was wondering what he was doing
> and
> > I was afraid that
> > it could be a distraction for him.
> > But like you were already talking about it was not
> -
> > this time he
> > could hold it together.
>
> Yes, he did.  I was in Washington, and he did really
> well.  He kept it together and was very focused in
> practice and in competition. :)  And I think the
> training is paying off too because he was not
> landing
> any quads in practice or warmup but landed one in
> the
> LP (although with a slight two-foot).  The good
> training habits will help him get through things
> like
> this.
>
>  For the second time he made
> > the Top Ten and he
> > did it  3 times, in every part of the competition.
> > Congratulations - well done. Things have become
> much
> > more better this way.
>
> I agree.  Things are much better.
> >
> > On the other hand I was astonished about the marks
> -
> > especially for
> > artistic impression - Emanuel got there.
>
> Again, I agree.  And talking to people in the arena
> after the LP, many thought he was very undermarked.
> I
> think skating order had something to do with it.
>
> > The judges seem to prefer the "Dynamics", thats
> why
> > it will stay
> > a hard way for the young Canadian in the future
> too.
> >
> > IMO he should have got higher marks than Dawydow
> and
> > he was not far
> > away from heaven to Brian Joubert and Michael
> Weiss.
> > But this is not
> > what judges told us.
>
> I understand what you're saying.  The judges seem to
> prefer the power skating of Plushenko, Joubert,
> Davydov, and Honda.  Skating that has a lot of
> stroking into jumps and not much else.  Sandhu and
> Buttle (and especially Buttle) have very detailed
> choreography and moves in the field but it's not
> being
> rewarded by the judges.  And my impression is that
> this type of skating will be rewarded even less
> under
> the proposed 'Code of Points' system.
>
> I actually wonder if Joanne McLeod and Lee Barkell
> should have different strategies next season with
> regards to Emanuel and Jeff's programs.  It will be
> less interesting to watch, but maybe flying around
> into jumps and omitting spread eagles, spirals, ina
> bauers, etc. will bring them better marks.
> >
> > Hope I could explain what I wanted to say. Is
> there
> > something (besides
> > consistent quads and triple-triples) Emanuel
> should
> > do to please the
> > judges better than he did at worlds apparently?
> >
> > Best regards from Germany
> >
> > Klaus
>
> One thing is speed.  He looks a lot faster in
> practice
> then he does in competition.  I thought he was quite
> tentative in the LP in Washington; a bit slow.
> OTOH,
> I thought he looked blazing fast and very aggressive
> in the LP at 4CCs in Beijeng, and I wondered if the
> Olympic-sized ice had something to do with that.
>
> Becky
>
>
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--- maurizio20012000 <Klaus.Albin@...> wrote:
> I could watch Emanuel watching himself the program
> of Stephane Lambiel
> in Washington. I was wondering what he was doing and
> I was afraid that
> it could be a distraction for him.
> But like you were already talking about it was not -
> this time he
> could hold it together.

Yes, he did.  I was in Washington, and he did really
well.  He kept it together and was very focused in
practice and in competition. :)  And I think the
training is paying off too because he was not landing
any quads in practice or warmup but landed one in the
LP (although with a slight two-foot).  The good
training habits will help him get through things like
this.

  For the second time he made
> the Top Ten and he
> did it  3 times, in every part of the competition.
> Congratulations - well done. Things have become much
> more better this way.

I agree.  Things are much better.
>
> On the other hand I was astonished about the marks -
> especially for
> artistic impression - Emanuel got there.

Again, I agree.  And talking to people in the arena
after the LP, many thought he was very undermarked.  I
think skating order had something to do with it.

> The judges seem to prefer the "Dynamics", thats why
> it will stay
> a hard way for the young Canadian in the future too.
>
> IMO he should have got higher marks than Dawydow and
> he was not far
> away from heaven to Brian Joubert and Michael Weiss.
> But this is not
> what judges told us.

I understand what you're saying.  The judges seem to
prefer the power skating of Plushenko, Joubert,
Davydov, and Honda.  Skating that has a lot of
stroking into jumps and not much else.  Sandhu and
Buttle (and especially Buttle) have very detailed
choreography and moves in the field but it's not being
rewarded by the judges.  And my impression is that
this type of skating will be rewarded even less under
the proposed 'Code of Points' system.

I actually wonder if Joanne McLeod and Lee Barkell
should have different strategies next season with
regards to Emanuel and Jeff's programs.  It will be
less interesting to watch, but maybe flying around
into jumps and omitting spread eagles, spirals, ina
bauers, etc. will bring them better marks.
>
> Hope I could explain what I wanted to say. Is there
> something (besides
> consistent quads and triple-triples) Emanuel should
> do to please the
> judges better than he did at worlds apparently?
>
> Best regards from Germany
>
> Klaus

One thing is speed.  He looks a lot faster in practice
then he does in competition.  I thought he was quite
tentative in the LP in Washington; a bit slow.  OTOH,
I thought he looked blazing fast and very aggressive
in the LP at 4CCs in Beijeng, and I wondered if the
Olympic-sized ice had something to do with that.

Becky

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   On the other hand I was astonished about the marks - especially for
   artistic impression - Emanuel got there. His skating was not perfect
   but it was without bigger errors. Other skaters performed much more
   wrong and got 5,6 and more though they had different mistakes.

   **His marks were a bit on the low side, I agree.  The thing which hurt him the
most, I think, was his placement in the SP.  I can't say for sure because we
didn't see all of the SPs, but had he not gotten a deduction on the flying sit
spin, I feel he could have been as high as 6th in the SP which would likely have
placed him in the last group to skate.  That could have raised him quite a bit
in the final standings.

   The judges seem to prefer the "Dynamics", thats why it will stay
   a hard way for the young Canadian in the future too.

   **I'm not sure what you mean by "Dynamics".  I think that the problem for all
the skaters next season will be the new judging system as the criteria seem
quite different from the little I've seen and heard.  It's not at all clear how
the 2nd mark qualities will be rewarded, so Emanuel really needs to focus on
clean elements.

   Hope I could explain what I wanted to say. Is there something (besides
   consistent quads and triple-triples) Emanuel should do to please the
   judges better than he did at worlds apparently?

   **Of all the programs I've seen from Emanuel, this is the program I've liked
the least.  I'm hoping that they choose next year's program with some thought to
continuity and a concept which is more mainstream.

   Best regards from Germany

   **And regards from my little part of Canada which is covered in snow...and
it's April.  How weird.
   Hazel





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I could watch Emanuel watching himself the program of Stephane Lambiel
in Washington. I was wondering what he was doing and I was afraid that
it could be a distraction for him.
But like you were already talking about it was not - this time he
could hold it together. For the second time he made the Top Ten and he
did it  3 times, in every part of the competition.
Congratulations - well done. Things have become much more better this
way.

On the other hand I was astonished about the marks - especially for
artistic impression - Emanuel got there. His skating was not perfect
but it was without bigger errors. Other skaters performed much more
wrong and got 5,6 and more though they had different mistakes.
The judges seem to prefer the "Dynamics", thats why it will stay
a hard way for the young Canadian in the future too.

IMO he should have got higher marks than Dawydow and he was not far
away from heaven to Brian Joubert and Michael Weiss. But this is not
what judges told us.

Hope I could explain what I wanted to say. Is there something (besides
consistent quads and triple-triples) Emanuel should do to please the
judges better than he did at worlds apparently?

Best regards from Germany

Klaus

Hey Everyone! You all seem to have enjoyed World's and seeing Emanuel
skate, I know I most certainly did! He is improving as we all have
noticed and becoming a more consistant figure skater even with the
pressure of the media especially with the latest
controversy/myth/question call it whatever, of him getting facial
surgery..... UGH. Anyways I just wanted to know if he will be seen on
television or be in any more competitions because most of them are
over for the year and its always nice to see Emanuel. Well i guess
that iis about all for now, so everyone take care !
                                              Hamreen
                           By the way, Vanessa, your site is
beautiful! Finally an updated website! (the pics are especially good)
are there any others out there?

Hey Vashty - you're not the only one who's already thinking about next season
;o)
Next year, the World Championships will be held in my country - Germany - and I
am going! I already have my tickets and all. So, yeah, I'm already thinking
about (and planning for) next season ... all my friends think that I have gone
completely mad!!!! :o)
Anyway, I really enjoyed Emanuel's free skate - his marks were way too low,
though, and even the German TV commentators said that his marks should have been
higher!!! I stayed up all last night to watch the men's free skate live ... by
the time it was over it was already past 5:00 AM over here in Germany ...!
Vanessa
  Vashty Hawkins <vhawkins@...> wrote: I felt REALLY sorry for Jeff
-- I've never seen him fall apart like that
before. His choreography is so beautiful that it doesn't really need jumps
to be good, but in a competitive arena, well ... he must be disappointed,
but I think he'll come back next season (I'm talking about next season
already, sigh) and be stronger; I think this year it was about him trying
to combine his artistry with higher tech content. Eman really acquitted
himself well, I was very pleased for him! A very strongly skated long
program, moved him up to 8th yay! He expressed it well in the post-skate
interview when he said that he's OK with it not being perfect and will
fight his way through it if necessary and not give up mid-performance.

He didn't have the spectacular highs and massive lows of past seasons this
year, but he became a LOT more consistent and IMO has a healthier attitude
about his abilities and a better head for competition.

Vashty




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--- Vashty Hawkins <vhawkins@...> wrote:
> I felt REALLY sorry for Jeff -- I've never seen him
> fall apart like that
> before.

I, too, felt sorry for Jeff, but he's been through
this before.  Remember Skate Canada?  I can't remember
if his other GP event FS was equally flawed.

His choreography is so beautiful that it
> doesn't really need jumps
> to be good,

Very true....and something I've said in the past
regarding Emanuel.  It shocked me how far he was
dropped; it was as if he got no credit for the rest of
his skating.

but in a competitive arena, well ... he
> must be disappointed,
> but I think he'll come back next season

I'm sure that he will.


> I think this year it
> was about him trying
> to combine his artistry with higher tech content.

I think that's a large part of it, but I really think
he just tightened up and panicked when he started to
have problems.  He's on the same learning curve Eman
was on.  I just hope that his curve is faster.

> Eman really acquitted
> himself well, I was very pleased for him! A very
> strongly skated long
> program, moved him up to 8th yay!

I was surprised that Davydov placed ahead of Eman in
the FS, but in the big picture the one additional
place would still have him in 8th overall.

He expressed it
> well in the post-skate
> interview when he said that he's OK with it not
> being perfect and will
> fight his way through it if necessary and not give
> up mid-performance.

I liked his description:  It wasn't magical, but he
got the job done.  This was huge for him as I suspect
he was fighting his nerves all week.

>
> He didn't have the spectacular highs and massive
> lows of past seasons this
> year, but he became a LOT more consistent and IMO
> has a healthier attitude
> about his abilities and a better head for
> competition.
>
Yes...

Hazel

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I felt REALLY sorry for Jeff -- I've never seen him fall apart like that
before. His choreography is so beautiful that it doesn't really need jumps
to be good, but in a competitive arena, well ... he must be disappointed,
but I think he'll come back next season (I'm talking about next season
already, sigh) and be stronger; I think this year it was about him trying
to combine his artistry with higher tech content. Eman really acquitted
himself well, I was very pleased for him! A very strongly skated long
program, moved him up to 8th yay! He expressed it well in the post-skate
interview when he said that he's OK with it not being perfect and will
fight his way through it if necessary and not give up mid-performance.

He didn't have the spectacular highs and massive lows of past seasons this
year, but he became a LOT more consistent and IMO has a healthier attitude
about his abilities and a better head for competition.

Vashty

--- Christine <cht7@...> wrote:
> Hey Guys!
>
> I thought Emmanuel's free skate was well done. He
> should have got
> rewarded higher for presentation marks, but overall
> i was quite
> pleased with his performance! Hopefully he is happy
> about it! What
> did u guys think? I'm glad to see that he didn't
> fall on the quad
> this time....actually his entire program was
> "fall-free"! However,
> jeff buttle didn't have the best free skate of his
> life.....poor guy.
>
> Christine :)
>
I was happy for Emanuel.  As he said in his interview,
this wasn't a magical performance, but he's finally
learned how to fight through whatever jump problems
he's having and that's a major victory for him.  I'm
kinda surprised that Davydov was placed ahead of
Emanuel, but one place wouldn't have made a huge
difference in any case.

Jeff skated well, other than a few jumps he missed.
He'll learn from this and grow just as Emanuel has
done.

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Hey Guys!

I thought Emmanuel's free skate was well done. He should have got
rewarded higher for presentation marks, but overall i was quite
pleased with his performance! Hopefully he is happy about it! What
did u guys think? I'm glad to see that he didn't fall on the quad
this time....actually his entire program was "fall-free"! However,
jeff buttle didn't have the best free skate of his life.....poor guy.

Christine :)

Looks good so far Vanessa :-D Eman doesn't have a lot of websites devoted
to him or his skating so its nice to see another one :-)


Vashty, who thought he did quite well in the SP; he hasn't had the
dramatic highs and lows of seasons past but has learned how to fight his
way through a program even if the jumps aren't quite there ... I think he
can better his 9th-place worlds results of a couple of seasons ago if he
has a strong long program tonight. I just wish it wasn't on TV at 11:30pm
(thanks TSN - not)

Hey everyone ... I am working on a website about Emanuel right now, and I wanted
to ask a big favor ... I know some of you have met Emanuel, and/or seen him
skate live ... I have put a special "Personal Encounters" section on my website
where I would like to post stories + pictures from his fans ... I will upload
all my candid shots of him that I took at the hotel during 2001 Lalique (and my
report, of course, too), and it'd be great if those of you who have met Emanuel,
too, could send me short (or detailed, if you want) reports and pictures!!!
If you want to look at what I have done so far go to:
http://www.geocities.com/liliana_evenstar/index.html

You'll also find some brandnew photos of Emanuel skating at 2003 Worlds there!
Of course that site is far from done, I only just started working on it
yesterday.
Thanks, Vanessa



Please visit my website ...

http://valeska1.bei.t-online.de
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celebrity_Autograph_Collectors



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  http://www.icecalc.org/events/wc2003/results/SEG003.HTM
   World Figure Skating Championships
   Men - Short Program
   Starting Order StN. Name Nat. Pl. Points
      Warm-Up Group 1
       1 Sergei KOTOV  ISR 25 5.2
       2 Zoltan TOTH  HUN 29 6.0
       3 Juraj SVIATKO  SVK 27 5.6
       4 Gregor URBAS  SLO 25 5.2
       5 Karel ZELENKA  ITA 27 5.6
       6 Konstantin TUPIKOV  UKR 29 6.0
      Warm-Up Group 2
       7 Silvio SMALUN  GER 19 4.0
       8 Ari-Pekka NURMENKARI  FIN 23 4.8
       9 Tomas VERNER  CZE 21 4.4
       10 Roman SKORNIAKOV  UZB 19 4.0
       11 Andrejs VLASCENKO  GER 21 4.4
       12 Stanick JEANNETTE  FRA 23 4.8
      Warm-Up Group 3
       13 Stanislav TIMCHENKO  RUS 15 3.2
       14 Gheorge CHIPER  ROM 15 3.2
       15 Vakhtang MURVANIDZE  GEO 17 3.6
       16 Ivan DINEV  BUL 13 2.8
       17 Brian JOUBERT  FRA 17 3.6
       18 Kevin VAN DER PERREN  BEL 13 2.8
      Warm-Up Group 4
       19 Ilia KLIMKIN  RUS 7 1.6
       20 Chengjiang LI  CHN 7 1.6
       21 Sergei DAVYDOV  BLR 11 2.4
       22 Jeffrey BUTTLE  CAN 11 2.4
       23 Emanuel SANDHU  CAN 9 2.0
       24 Min ZHANG  CHN 9 2.0
      Warm-Up Group 5
       25 Evgeni PLUSHENKO  RUS 1 0.4
       26 Ryan JAHNKE  USA 5 1.2
       27 Takeshi HONDA  JPN 3 0.8
       28 Stephane LAMBIEL  SUI 5 1.2
       29 Timothy GOEBEL  USA 3 0.8
       30 Michael WEISS  USA 1 0.4



   Panel of Judges Function Name Nat.
       Referee Ms. Gale TANGER  ISU
       Assistant Referee Mr. Fabio BIANCHETTI  ISU
       Judge No.1 Ms. Adriana DOMANSKA  ISU
       Judge No.2 Ms. Tatiana DANILENKO  ISU
       Judge No.3 Ms. Ann HARDY-THOMAS  ISU
       Judge No.4 Mr. Alexei SHIRSHOV  ISU
       Judge No.5 Mr. Nicolae BELLU  ISU
       Judge No.6 Ms. Zsofia WAGNER  ISU
       Judge No.7 Mr. Patrick IBENS  ISU
       Judge No.8 Ms. Hely ABBONDATI  ISU
       Judge No.9 Ms. Breda MARINSEK  ISU
       Judge No.10 Mr. Alfred KORYTEK  ISU
       Judge No.11 Ms. Elizabeth CRANE  ISU
       Judge No.12 Ms. Prisca BINZ-MOSER  ISU
       Judge No.13 Mr. Richard KOSINA  ISU
       Judge No.14 Mr. Paolo PIZZOCARI  ISU



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Thanks for the info Hazel! Best wishes to both Eman and Jeff this week ...
I think the mens' title is Plyushenko's to lose, but its up in the air as
to who could take second and third ...

Vashty

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Worlds on TV

TSN and CTV's coverage of the world figure skating championships this week.
Three-time world champion Elvis Stojko will make his debut as a commentator in
the men's event.
Tomorrow:
Compulsory dance, 4 to 6 p.m., TSN;
Men's short program, 8 to 11 p.m., repeated 12 midnight to 2 a.m., TSN.

Wednesday:
Men's short program, 4 to 6 p.m., TSN (R);
Pairs free style, 10:30 p.m. to 1 a.m., TSN.

Thursday: Original dance, 7:30 p.m. to 9 p.m., TSN;
Men's free style, 11:30 p.m. to 1:30 a.m., TSN.

Friday: Free dance, 9 to 11 p.m., repeated 12 midnight to 2 a.m., TSN.

Saturday: Free dance 1 to 3 p.m., TSN (R);
Women's free style, 9 to 11 p.m., CTV.

Sunday: Women's free style, 4 to 6 p.m., TSN (R).
(All times Eastern)

Quotes:
Canadian silver medalist Jeffrey Buttle of Sudbury shrugged off all the talk.
"The only thing I wondered about was whether they were going to hold it [the
world championships]," he said after a practice on Saturday. "There was no doubt
in my mind that I would come, as long as it was going on."

<snip>


Canada traditionally has been strong in the men's event, having won half of the
past 16 world titles, but don't expect gold this time. Two-time Canadian
champion Emanuel Sandhu of Richmond Hill, Ont., has brilliant talent, but isn't
always consistent. His best finish at the world championships was ninth in 2001.
He did not compete last year because of injury.

At practice in Washington over the weekend, Sandhu easily landed a combination
of a quadruple toe loop, triple toe loop and triple loop, the combination made
famous by 2001 world champion Evgeny Plushenko of Russia, the favourite to win
here.

Buttle finished a brilliant eighth in his world debut last year, even without a
quadruple jump in his arsenal. But he been busy since trying to add it this
year, even in his short program. He finally did it during the short program at
Four Continents championships in Beijing last month.

"That was probably a really important high point of the year . . . to do the
quad toe, triple toe in the short," he said. "They were going really well all
week in practices, and I landed it on the warm-up. Going in, I felt nothing but
comfortable and confident. I did it. I was pretty pleased. I missed the next two
elements, which they took deductions on, but I didn't really mind. I was too
pleased about the quad toe to really care."

Buttle received a boost of confidence from accomplishing the feat. "It even
gives you a little bit of motivation to know that this jump, which has become a
requirement to stand on the world's podium, I've just done in competition."

His goal in Washington is to "go for everything" that he's planned all year.
Although Olympic champion Alexei Yagudin is not here because of a hip injury,
Buttle says the competition is tougher than ever. "But Plushenko is here, and he
was absent last year," he said.

A new force on the scene is Brian Joubert, the delightful French champion who
won the silver medal at the European championships in January.



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World Figure Skating Championships
   http://www.icecalc.org/events/wc2003/results/SEG001.HTM
   Men - Qualifying Free Skating A
   Starting Order StN. Name Nat. Pl. Points
      Warm-Up Group 1
       1 Juraj SVIATKO  SVK
       2 Vakhtang MURVANIDZE  GEO
       3 Kevin VAN DER PERREN  BEL
       4 Bradley SANTER  AUS
       5 Timothy GOEBEL  USA
      Warm-Up Group 2
       6 Maciej KUS  POL
       7 Evgeni PLUSHENKO  RUS
       8 Gheorge CHIPER  ROM
       9 Aidas REKLYS  LTU
       10 Andrejs VLASCENKO  GER
      Warm-Up Group 3
       11 Emanuel SANDHU  CAN
       12 Stephane LAMBIEL  SUI
       13 Yon GARCIA  ESP
       14 Aramais GRIGORIAN  ARM
       15 Jeffrey BUTTLE  CAN
      Warm-Up Group 4
       16 Silvio SMALUN  GER
       17 Ari-Pekka NURMENKARI  FIN
       18 Chengjiang LI  CHN
       19 Konstantin TUPIKOV  UKR
       20 Sergei KOTOV  ISR



   Panel of Judges Function Name Nat.
       Referee Mr. Fabio BIANCHETTI  ISU
       Assistant Referee Ms. Hely ABBONDATI  ISU
       Judge No.1 Ms. Patricia FRENCH  ISU
       Judge No.2 Ms. Elizabeth RYAN  ISU
       Judge No.3 Ms. Christiane MOERTH  ISU
       Judge No.4 Mr. Patrick IBENS  ISU
       Judge No.5 Ms. Breda MARINSEK  ISU
       Judge No.6 Mr. Richard KOSINA  ISU
       Judge No.7 Ms. Elizabeth CRANE  ISU
       Judge No.8 Ms. Prisca BINZ-MOSER  ISU
       Judge No.9 Ms. Mona JONSSON  ISU
       Judge No.10 Mr. Nicolae BELLU  ISU



   http://www.icecalc.org/events/wc2003/results/SEG002.HTM
   Men - Qualifying Free Skating B
   Starting Order StN. Name Nat. Pl. Points
      Warm-Up Group 1
       1 Manuel SEGURA  MEX
       2 Brian JOUBERT  FRA
       3 Stanick JEANNETTE  FRA
       4 Zoltan TOTH  HUN
       5 Ilia KLIMKIN  RUS
      Warm-Up Group 2
       6 Sean CARLOW  AUS
       7 Ivan DINEV  BUL
       8 Gregor URBAS  SLO
       9 Sergei DAVYDOV  BLR
       10 Michael WEISS  USA
      Warm-Up Group 3
       11 Roman SKORNIAKOV  UZB
       12 Takeshi HONDA  JPN
       13 Dong-Whun LEE  KOR
       14 Karel ZELENKA  ITA
       15 Min ZHANG  CHN
      Warm-Up Group 4
       16 Stanislav TIMCHENKO  RUS
       17 Ryan JAHNKE  USA
       18 Kristoffer BERNTSSON  SWE
       19 Tomas VERNER  CZE
       20 Clemens JONAS  AUT



   Panel of Judges Function Name Nat.
       Referee Ms. Gale TANGER  ISU
       Assistant Referee Mr. Igor PROKOP  ISU
       Judge No.1 Ms. Adriana DOMANSKA  ISU
       Judge No.2 Ms. Tatiana DANILENKO  ISU
       Judge No.3 Ms. Ann HARDY-THOMAS  ISU
       Judge No.4 Mr. Alexei SHIRSHOV  ISU
       Judge No.5 Ms. Aniela HEBEL-SZMAK  ISU
       Judge No.6 Ms. Zsofia WAGNER  ISU
       Judge No.7 Mr. Paolo PIZZOCARI  ISU
       Judge No.8 Mr. Alexander PENCHEV  ISU
       Judge No.9 Ms. Chihee RHEE  ISU
       Judge No.10 Mr. Alfred KORYTEK  ISU



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