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#735 From: "raybanz2003" <gothamlaw@...>
Date: Sun Aug 12, 2007 2:55 am
Subject: Hi, I'm a new member with a question
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Anyone know of any Savate instruction in NYC?

Thanks
Scott

#734 From: "Eugenio Traballano" <eutrab@...>
Date: Tue Aug 7, 2007 12:49 pm
Subject: History Channel
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Hello everybody,



I wanted to remind to the residents in the US that the History Channel
is having a show on Savate this Friday at 10:00 PM.



Here is the link the HC website where you can see some clips on the
show.



http://www.history.com/minisites/humanweapon
<http://www.history.com/minisites/humanweapon>



Thank you.



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#733 From: "jbevard" <jbevard1@...>
Date: Sat Jul 28, 2007 8:23 pm
Subject: Introduction
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Hello all,

I registered for this group last night, and just wanted to give an
intro as I explore the extras here.  I have several years experience
in shotokan and kobudo.  After a typical stage of life I have found
myself with a couple degrees, a wife, and a son.  I am now in the
worst shape of my life and would again like to use ma to maintain my
health.

While practicing Eastern ma, I never realized there was a whole world
of Western ma awaiting me.  I think this is in a large part due to
the popularization of the east, with neglect of the west being the
price paid.  I have now come across savate, and am quite interested
in studying an art from a culture that was once a part of my family.
Unfortunately, there seems to be no representation of savate here in
Florida, and I would gladly accept any assistance or possible options
to train in this art without a local school.

Thank you for having me, and hope you don't mind the slew of
questions that will come.

~John~

#732 From: thom futrell <thunderfootfutrell@...>
Date: Sat Jul 21, 2007 3:15 am
Subject: Re: [Salle de Savate] Greetings
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There was a gym in Lansing, the cross trainers club that offered it. I'm not
sure if it's still there.
   Thom


alan stewart <spadaydaga@...> wrote:
           I'm from Mich, too. Where do they teach savate there?

alan in southold, ny.

tgreaper1 <thunderfootfutrell@...> wrote: hello all! I am a martial
artist from michigan. I want to thank you
for having me. I am looking forward to expanding my horizons and
learning about this great sport.
thanks
thom





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#731 From: alan stewart <spadaydaga@...>
Date: Sat Jul 21, 2007 12:34 am
Subject: Re: [Salle de Savate] Greetings
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I'm from Mich, too.  Where do they teach savate there?

alan in southold, ny.

tgreaper1 <thunderfootfutrell@...> wrote:
hello all! I am a martial artist from michigan. I want to thank you
  for having me. I am looking forward to expanding my horizons and
  learning about this great sport.
  thanks
  thom








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#730 From: "tgreaper1" <thunderfootfutrell@...>
Date: Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:47 am
Subject: Greetings
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hello all! I am a martial artist from michigan. I want to thank you
for having me. I am looking forward to expanding my horizons and
learning about this great sport.
thanks
thom

#729 From: footye
Date: Wed Jul 4, 2007 8:24 pm
Subject: Florence Suire & Gilles Le Duigou Seminar Jan 07 - video
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#728 From: footye
Date: Mon Jul 2, 2007 8:47 am
Subject: Video - Gilles le Duigou, Cambridge, May 07
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Short clip of Gilles teaching in Cambridge:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnZDBGWz6Jg

#727 From: "slapmonkey100" <slapmonkey100@...>
Date: Sat Jun 9, 2007 9:29 am
Subject: Savate in Arizona
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I've checked out the message archives and it seems someone asked this
before and couldn't be helped much, so this is a long shot, but I
might as well try.

I live in Phoenix, Arizona during the summer and nearby Tempe the rest
of the year.  I was wondering if any of the members here might now of
gyms that offer Savate classes in my area(s).  There's one gym, in a
town a bit far from either of my homes, that offers only self-defense
courses, and not Savate per se.  I'm not interested in taking a
self-defense course, and I want to focus on kickboxing only.

Thanks for any help you might be able to bring.

-Moses

#726 From: "theblinddeadrpg" <theblinddeadrpg@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 7:50 pm
Subject: Re: I need help setting up a basic Savate training progam for myself.
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Hey thanks:)
I have a question,whats the step off and how do you do it?

Joseph

--- In salledesavate@yahoogroups.com, footye <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> There's plenty of info easily available on the web. For a start,
have
> a look at these sites:
> http://www.ffsavate.com  (official french federation site)
> http://www.fisavate.com/Anglais/reg_savate.asp (official
international
>   federation site)
> http://www.savate.net
> http://membres.lycos.fr/bfcannevillers/
>
>
>
>  <theblinddeadrpg@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello
> > I am seeking help setting up a basic savate program.
> > I am currently studying  pugilisim from reprints of the old
Pugilism
> > manuals from the bareknuckle era,and I found this website that
> > explains a few of the basic kicks of Savate
> > http://www.onlineonair.com/savate/page1.html
> > thanks
> > Joseph
>

#725 From: footye
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 4:26 pm
Subject: Re: I need help setting up a basic Savate training progam for myself.
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There's plenty of info easily available on the web. For a start, have
a look at these sites:
http://www.ffsavate.com  (official french federation site)
http://www.fisavate.com/Anglais/reg_savate.asp (official international
   federation site)
http://www.savate.net
http://membres.lycos.fr/bfcannevillers/



  <theblinddeadrpg@...> wrote:
>
> Hello
> I am seeking help setting up a basic savate program.
> I am currently studying  pugilisim from reprints of the old Pugilism
> manuals from the bareknuckle era,and I found this website that
> explains a few of the basic kicks of Savate
> http://www.onlineonair.com/savate/page1.html
> thanks
> Joseph

#724 From: "theblinddeadrpg" <theblinddeadrpg@...>
Date: Sun Apr 22, 2007 3:14 pm
Subject: I need help setting up a basic Savate training progam for myself.
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Hello
I am seeking help setting up a basic savate program.
I am currently studying  pugilisim from reprints of the old Pugilism
manuals from the bareknuckle era,and I found this website that
explains a few of the basic kicks of Savate

http://www.onlineonair.com/savate/page1.html

thanks
Joseph

#723 From: "theblinddeadrpg" <theblinddeadrpg@...>
Date: Fri Apr 20, 2007 2:37 am
Subject: Seeking info on the basic stances and footwork of Savate
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I am seeking info on the basic stances and the foot work that goes
along with it ofr mobility.
Thanks
Joseph

#722 From: bjjsavate
Date: Fri Mar 16, 2007 9:52 pm
Subject: The 300 Workout
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The 300 workout, as it was done by the actors:

"300"
25x Pull-ups
50x Deadlift @ 135lbs
50x Push-ups
50x Box Jump @ 24" box
50x Floor Wiper @ 135lbs
50x KB Clean and Press @ 36lbs (KB must touch floor between reps)
25x Pull-ups 300 reps total

Andrew Pleavin, who played Daxos the leader of the Arcadians, did 300
in 18 minutes. Savage.

Watch the clip:

http://movies.yahoo.com/mv/mf/frame?theme=minfo&lid=wmv-56-p.1412231-
163794,wmv-100-p.1412232-163794,wmv-300-p.1412233-163794,wmv-700-
p.1412234-163794,wmv-28-p.1412231-
163794&id=1809262865&f=1809262865&mspid=1809263616&type=m&a=0,15

Go get your Spartan on!


Basulto Academy of Defense
www.wayofnoway.com

#721 From: Reizo B <sir_reizo@...>
Date: Tue Jan 9, 2007 1:58 pm
Subject: Re: [Salle de Savate] Updated Savate Website
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This all sounds great but none of these links work for me.

djinna8 <janesse@...> wrote:          Hi from Toronto, and Happy
New Year to all savateurs...

Great footage from the last posting! Very cool to see a little history
in motion.

We just updated for our website, now strictly about savate:
http://www.trinitymartialarts.com. It now includes a slideshow of a
few pics from the recent Championnat du Monde Assaut. I would be
interested in trading links with other savate pages and kickboxing-
oriented sites as well, so feel free to email trinitysavate@...
if you're interested.

We also have a MySpace page if anyone wants to check it out and
become "friends" with their page: http://www.myspace.com/trinitysavate.

Checked out NCSavate.com and also added listed it in the savate
section of http://www.dmoz.org. Looking good! The calendar is a great
option.





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#720 From: "George Ruiz" <georgeruiz@...>
Date: Mon Jan 22, 2007 6:11 pm
Subject: Link to Pennacchio vs Dekkers fight
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Hey guys. I just posted a link on Le Blog
<http://web.mac.com/georgehruiz/iWeb/CalSavate.com/Le%20Blog/Le%20Blog.h\
tml>   to that amazing Pennacchio-Dekkers fight
<http://web.mac.com/georgehruiz/iWeb/CalSavate.com/Le%20Blog/B8A26259-31\
0C-4340-B7F8-D4403D571FD2.html>   that Pugli mentioned. Enjoy!


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#719 From: "George Ruiz" <georgeruiz@...>
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2007 9:49 pm
Subject: Re: Savate Champ wins Muay Thai Belt
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Michael no longer trains out of Insosanto Academy - he now runs his
own school - The School of Savate in West Hollywood (I train with
him). His students have bee quite successful in our Souther California
competitions. And you're right, it's a great clip showing how
effective Savate can be in the ring!

George
www.calsavate.com

--- In salledesavate@yahoogroups.com, bjjsavate <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Great clip of our friend Michael Giordani winning the Muay Thai title.
>
> Those of you who were with us on the US TEAM in 2000 or 2002 will
> remember him as the team captain.  He fights out of/trains at the
> Inosanto Academy.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oejU60qT1tY
>
> Notice the Savate skills coming through (hand/foot combo balance,
> mastery of distance, kicking/punching from range).
>
> Congratulations Michael!
>
> BASULTO ACADEMY OF DEFENSE
> www.wayofnoway.com
> www.NCSavate.com
>

#718 From: "Pugil" <ollie@...>
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:42 pm
Subject: Great Britain Savate Federation Forum
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Please visit the GBSF Forum (The Savate Universe) from time to
time to get a feel for what's happening over this side of the pond:

http://www.activeboard.com/forum.spark?forumID=74832&subF
orumID=215536

Pugil

#717 From: "Pugil" <ollie@...>
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2007 3:36 pm
Subject: Savate seminar in Cambridge (UK)
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Just to inform you that Gilles le Duigou will be coming back to
Cambridge at the end of the month (Sat 27 Jan 2007) to conduct
another seminar. He will be accompanied by Florence Suire, a
many times Savate Champion, including French, European and
World.

For those of you who don't know who Gilles is, please read the
following:

Gilles le Duigou

30+ years in Savate

114 competitive fights in total (rough breakdown in brackets):

Savate (60) only lost 4 times in Savate competition; English
Boxing (20) 14 amateur and 6 Pro fights (won 4, lost 2) was
amateur Boxing Champion of Paris, and winner of two other
amateur tournaments; Kickboxing (14); and Full-Contact (20).
One of Gilles' Full-Contact trainers was the legendary Dominic
Valera.

In 1985, Gilles fought and beat the fabulous Francois
Pennacchio in the semi-finals of the French Championships.
After losing the first round, to the highly-skilled and fast kicking
Pennacchio, Gilles switched tactics and used his English Boxing
skills to win the next four rounds.

(Pennacchio later went on to defeat Ramon Dekkers, the Thai
Boxing legend, in a kickboxing challenge match. "The Dutch
sensation fought in Milan in the 1990s losing a spectacular
match against French Savate Champion Francois Pennacchio.
Nobody expected Pennacchio to last more than a few minutes,
but the Frenchman found out that Savate sweeps were effective
against Dekkers and used them to build a victory on points.")

In 1986 (before there was an official World Championships),
Gilles beat everyone he met in the ring, including Daklaoui (Fr),
to become Champion of Europe. In that same year, he also
fought a Japanese Full-Contact fighter, who was an extremely
powerful kicker. Gilles had been ill in the weeks before the fight
and, possibly as a result of that, he had both arms broken when
he tried to block a particularly strong round kick. Gilles continued
to fight, even though he knew one of his arms was broken, and
eventually knocked out his opponent in the fourth round with a
fouetté (whip kick) to the liver.

Some time after breaking his arms in that fight (he now has at
least one steel plate as a result!), Gilles fought the remarkable
Richard Sylla, but lost in the third round to an uppercut punch to
the liver. So now you know why he likes that particular target!

Please email me in the first instance for further information, or if
you are interested in attending: info@...

Pugil

#716 From: bjjsavate
Date: Sat Jan 20, 2007 12:28 pm
Subject: Savate Champ wins Muay Thai Belt
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Great clip of our friend Michael Giordani winning the Muay Thai title.

Those of you who were with us on the US TEAM in 2000 or 2002 will
remember him as the team captain.  He fights out of/trains at the
Inosanto Academy.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oejU60qT1tY

Notice the Savate skills coming through (hand/foot combo balance,
mastery of distance, kicking/punching from range).

Congratulations Michael!

BASULTO ACADEMY OF DEFENSE
www.wayofnoway.com
www.NCSavate.com

#715 From: "djinna8" <janesse@...>
Date: Mon Jan 8, 2007 8:47 pm
Subject: Updated Savate Website
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Hi from Toronto, and Happy New Year to all savateurs...

Great footage from the last posting! Very cool to see a little history
in motion.

We just updated for our website, now strictly about savate:
http://www.trinitymartialarts.com.  It now includes a slideshow of a
few pics from the recent Championnat du Monde Assaut. I would be
interested in trading links with other savate pages and  kickboxing-
oriented sites as well, so feel free to email trinitysavate@...
if you're interested.

We also have a MySpace page if anyone wants to check it out and
become "friends" with their page: http://www.myspace.com/trinitysavate.

Checked out NCSavate.com and also added listed it in the savate
section of http://www.dmoz.org. Looking good! The calendar is a great
option.

#714 From: bjjsavate
Date: Tue Jan 2, 2007 10:55 am
Subject: Old footage of Savate
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This is some very old (silent film era) footage of a woman doing
Savate.


It looks rather silly by today's Savate standards, but still cool to
watch to see the early practice of the art (notice the takedowns and
defenses, not allowed in the ring anymore).


Enjoy!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJme1iy6qOc

#713 From: "timber0472" <timber0472@...>
Date: Sat Sep 16, 2006 11:14 pm
Subject: New Site for Savate
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NCSavate.com is now up and running. Still adding to the site, but the
matrix is now up. Please check out the site. Any pics or articles
appreciated.Thanks.

#712 From: "calvin_nicholson" <calvin_nicholson@...>
Date: Thu Oct 19, 2006 12:23 am
Subject: Two questions for budding Savatuers in greater NYC
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1) Is over 25 (i'm now closing in on 29) too old to start training in
Savate?  I used to back and I'm currently training in Aikido, as well
as  starting to powerlift and yoga.  I also boxed on and off in the past.

2)Is there a school in New York where I can train in Savate?

#711 From: bjjsavate
Date: Tue Oct 3, 2006 9:59 am
Subject: Savate in K-1 (clip)
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Great clip of Savateur Farid Khider fighting in K-1, the Grand Prix of
kickboxing (check out his use of the barefoot chasse bas!)

http://youtube.com/results?search_query=Farid+Khider

Really good show of Savate (Khider is a Savate
champion in France).   He just incorporates some fundamental Thai
knees and clinchwork goes to town.

Keep training hard!

BASULTO ACADEMY OF DEFENSE
www.wayofnoway.com

#710 From: bjjsavate
Date: Fri Sep 8, 2006 11:51 pm
Subject: Training article "Who is Training Whom"
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At TEAM BAD (home of NJ SAVATE) we always set the bar high for
training intensity and training integrity.

Our philosophy was to not provide instruction in techniques
and "styles" but instead to provide immersion in diverse "training
experiences".    Many of those training experiences and scenarios
required "full commitment" from participants.   Every training
session was "student-centered" not "instructor-centered".

This demanded a lot of self-motivated dedication to a high level of
athleticism, even if only part of the time during training cycles.
Our unofficial mantra was "we'll provide the boat but you've got to
do the rowing".

Many people with best intentions were at times discouraged to find
out the commitment and hard work necessary for "real-world" ring or
fight-survival skills.

I'd like to recommend a great article regarding "real-world" training
written by Ken Good, former Naval Special Warfare operator and head
of Strategos International, a top notcht training facility for
security professionals and private contract operators.

It is a long article, but well worth the read.   I highly recommend
it.

Who is Training Whom?
"I have been in sort of an ongoing debate with some in the tactical
training community regarding the concept of "high level" training
verses "lowest common denominator training."  High-level, being
defined as challenging, difficult, slightly beyond the trainees'
capability, type of training where everybody does not
necessarily "get it" right away; in some cases, never. Training that
could be considered steak instead of the disgusting, blended carrots
you spoon feed to a toddler……"

Full Article Here:

http://www.officer.com/article/article.jsp?siteSection=3&id=32291

BASULTO ACADEMY OF DEFENSE
www.wayofnoway.com

#709 From: bjjsavate
Date: Sun Aug 20, 2006 12:57 am
Subject: Savate to Muay Thai transition
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Check out this clip of Ali Kanfouah, Savate champ, fighting Muay
Thai.  He is the fighter in the green trunks.

Notice in this fight
- his use of distance
- great handwork from Savate
- some strong coup pied bas
- good kicking out of punching combos

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUIv6_9enK0

Armando

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www.wayofnoway.com

#708 From: "george_zinja_2006" <george_zinja_2006@...>
Date: Wed Apr 26, 2006 6:11 am
Subject: Cool Website
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#706 From: bjjsavate
Date: Thu Mar 16, 2006 12:26 am
Subject: Training Diet (Low Fat is OUT!)
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Especially when training hard, I've always warned our fighters about
cutting back to much on your fat intake.

LOW-FAT DEAD

     The American public has been told to reduce dietary fat for the
last 30 years with the justification that it would lead to better
weight loss, lower plasma cholesterol and reduced heart disease and
cancer risk. An enormous amount of effort has been put forth to
subsequently test that hypothesis.

In fact, the biggest study ever to test the
effects of reducing fat cost an estimated $415 million dollars and the
results of that study were just published in a series of studies in
the Journal of the American Medical Association. The study involved
just under 20,000 women who were instructed to reduce fat and increase
intake of vegetables, fruits, and grains. The control group included
nearly 30,000 women who maintained their normal diet. After a mean
follow up of 8.1 years, the intervention group successfully reduced
fat by 8% and this resulted in a decrease in blood cholesterol levels.
However, there were absolutely no differences in the incidence of any
heart disease. Other studies published from this database indicated
little effect on weight loss and no effect on risk of getting cancer.


These findings provide compelling evidence to reconsider the premise
that reducing dietary fat is the healthiest dietary approach. The link
between dietary fat restriction, cholesterol reduction and heart
disease has always been tenuous at best. It is too bad we spent 415
million to try and prove a faulty hypothesis. A significant amount of
research has shown benefits of lower carbohydrate diets that are
higher in protein and healthy fats.

     Notes: Howard BV, Van Horn L, Hsia J, Manson JE, Stefanick ML,
Wassertheil-Smoller S, Kuller LH, LaCroix AZ, Langer RD, Lasser NL,
Lewis CE, Limacher MC, Margolis KL, Mysiw WJ, Ockene JK, Parker LM,
Perri MG, Phillips L, Prentice RL, Robbins J, Rossouw JE, Sarto GE,
Schatz IJ, Snetselaar LG, Stevens VJ, Tinker LF, Trevisan M, Vitolins
MZ, Anderson GL, Assaf AR, Bassford T, Beresford SA, Black HR, Brunner
RL, Brzyski RG, Caan B, Chlebowski RT, Gass M, Granek I, Greenland P,
Hays J, Heber D, Heiss G, Hendrix SL, Hubbell FA, Johnson KC, Kotchen
JM. Low-fat dietary pattern and risk of cardiovascular disease: the
Women's Health Initiative Randomized Controlled Dietary Modification
Trial. JAMA. 2006 Feb 8;295(6):655-66.

#705 From: "robster512" <robster512@...>
Date: Thu Jan 26, 2006 2:45 am
Subject: Hello from Austin Texas...
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I am in Austin,TX and would like to train in Savate for the street not the ring.

Can anyone give me any info on clubs in the state of Texas and were I can find
in
struction in Savate?

There is a guy in Laredo but I went on his sight and saw that 90% of his
students
havew not kept up with the system or left it all together?

I think it is Savate Dans Derue or something of that nature and it is located 
in Laredo
Texas and is way to far for me.

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