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Re: [sabaki] Grappling/striking/pressure points


On Jul 9, 2009, at 12:56 PM, Hank Prohm wrote:

> Since it's been a while since we've had a good conversation about
> fighting, let's back up a bit and review our common assumptions:
>
> 1. The basic paradigm should be: Move, block, counter, with
> movement of the target always being a first priority. If you take a
> look at kata, you will see that all of the "traditional" kata start
> with these premises.

I would agree with that premise .. kata does cause movement but not
just any movement ... movement that disrupts the attack, then unlocks
the resistance then renders the opponent under control (frequently a
KO) and then frequently a killing technique [protect unlock control
and then kill] in that order ...

well at least the older fighting katas do ... the newer ones ... some
are just modern dance ... lol
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> 2.

> 3. Properly done, using short power, knowledge of physiology and
> anatomy, etc. a grapple IS a pressure point strike, is a hit.
> That's why you spend all those years becoming an "expert" so that
> you can use short power, fajing, internal energy and all that cool
> stuff. This might seem like hocus pocus to the guys who've only
> been waving their hands and feet about for a couple of years, but
> someone who's been training for 20-30 or 40 years should be able to
> put his or her hands on the their attacker and break their ribs
> without pulling their hands back.

agree ...
>
> regards,
>
> Hank Prohm
>
>

good post ... good to hear from you again hank! been a while

Bruce
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Hank Shinshii, glad to see your still around this fine list. Yes very important, this is not sport karate/martial arts we are speaking about. This is...
shokaichi
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Jul 9, 2009
8:50 pm

... I would agree with that premise .. kata does cause movement but not just any movement ... movement that disrupts the attack, then unlocks the resistance...
Bruce Miller
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Hey Bruce, I for one would certainly like to see the article if you get a chance to post it! Much obliged in advance :-) Tom ... From: Bruce Miller To:...
Tom Ross
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Jul 9, 2009
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I got several requests (on an off list) for this article which is actually part of a Monthly QLK Newsletter despite the title it is about adrenaline not...
Bruce Miller
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Jul 10, 2009
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Great article Bruce I know you're familiar with my drills to learn to deal with the fight flight response and fear in general, but I'd like to share the link...
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Bruce, Enjoyed it, Thanks! Tom ... From: "Bruce Miller" <bemiller@...> To: <sabaki@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Thursday, July 09, 2009 10:56 PM Subject:...
Tom Ross
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With this group, and this discussion, I'd like to limit the responders to: 1. Experts......this means someone with at LEAST ten years of experience and 10,000...
Hank Prohm
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Jul 11, 2009
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... not sure I consider myself an expert ... am older than most dirt (>40 in martial arts) and have been in a "few" serious "scuffles" and have worked with PP...
Bruce Miller
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Jul 11, 2009
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Decades of training very important in understanding concepts; within kata. Let alone the PP possibly used as well. Only proper knowledge for ones with...
shokaichi
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Jul 11, 2009
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... actually I think it is more about an instructor that guides but yet makes you think .... to many tell you what to think and people never learn to figure...
Bruce Miller
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Some good points folks. As a person opinion point though, I don't think that someone should rule out a practitioner of a sport oriented art just because it has...
Tom Ross
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Jul 11, 2009
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During my training, I learned not to assume anything about opponent. Very true Tom Shinshii. Charles...
shokaichi
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actually I think it is more about an instructor that guides but yet makes you think .... to many tell you what to think and people never learn to figure stuff...
Tom Ross
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Jul 12, 2009
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As I've said more bluntly, a good teacher knows when you shut up Rick Tutoring and Positive Reinforcement Techniques and Methodology for all Parents and...
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Sorry no coffee yet That should be a good teacher knows when to shut up Rick ... From: Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc <tutor2000@...> To:...
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Sometimes in our attempt to give children what we did not have, we forget to give our children what we did have. Connie Podesta "The world is a great mirror....
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Learn to express rather than impress. Expressing evokes a "me too" attitude while impressing evokes a "so what" attitude. E. James Rohn "Being miserable is a...
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