Sorry for my mis-speaking. My fairing is just the front..I thought Zzip
called that a full but perhaps they just call it a full front fairing.
STeve


>From: Kevin Karplus <Karplus@...>
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 17:03:16 -0700
>
>
>I though ZZIP only made a front fairing for the Vanguard.  I wasn't
>aware that they had a full fairing.  How do you get in and out? What
>does the rear fairing consist of?
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Kevin Karplus  karplus@... http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus
>Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz
>Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics
>(Senior member, IEEE) (Board of Directors & Chair of Education Committee,
>ISCB)
>life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
>Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed)
>Affiliations for identification only.

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I though ZZIP only made a front fairing for the Vanguard.  I wasn't
aware that they had a full fairing.  How do you get in and out? What
does the rear fairing consist of?

------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Karplus  karplus@... http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus
Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz
Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics
(Senior member, IEEE) (Board of Directors & Chair of Education Committee, ISCB)
life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed)
Affiliations for identification only.

Thanks Kevin;
That gives me a pretty good feel for the bike's worth. It does indeed
include a full fairing from ZZIP Fairings. At the time I think it cost me
around $2-300. I would probably sell the bike including all for about what
you estimate or a little less. Thanks for the input.
Steve



>From: Kevin Karplus <Karplus@...>
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>CC: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 13:51:21 -0700
>
>
>I've no idea what a full fairing should cost---I wasn't even aware
>that a full fairing was available for Vanguards.  Custom items are
>worth what people are willing to pay for them, and it is very hard to
>estimate what that would be.
>
>My estimate of $900-$1k was for a used stock Vanguard, not a
>customized one.
>

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I've no idea what a full fairing should cost---I wasn't even aware
that a full fairing was available for Vanguards.  Custom items are
worth what people are willing to pay for them, and it is very hard to
estimate what that would be.

My estimate of $900-$1k was for a used stock Vanguard, not a
customized one.

Would that be with a full fairing as I have on my bike? Just trying to get a
feel for what I should ask.
Thanks.


>From: Kevin Karplus <Karplus@...>
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:14:38 -0700
>
>
>I think that used Vanguards in good condition are running around
>$900-$1k, but I may be out of date on that.

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I think that used Vanguards in good condition are running around
$900-$1k, but I may be out of date on that.

I would accept a fair offer to someone who could pick it up. Haven't given
much thought to how much they go. What do you think?
Steve



>From: "Gino R. Rich" <gino.rich@...>
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>To: <ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: RE: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 12:07:10 -0600
>
>How much is your bike?
>
>
>
>________________________________
>
>From: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>[mailto:ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of junkme2
>Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 11:20 AM
>To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>
>
>
>Well after recently tinkering with my Ryan Vanguard's extra chain
>pulley and somewhat loose steering, I think I am gonna sell the bike.
>Not because of those two minor issues but I tend to use my Yellowbike
>Dragon more often and enjoy the short wheel base bike, plus my
>other "exotic" wheeled veicles need some attention.
>
>I drive a 73 TVR and an 81 Porsche 911SC that I want to replace the
>exhaust system on..So, I want to sell the Vanguard. BTW, I just took
>her for a nice spin and it is a nice ride. I installed a BRAND NEW
>mesh
>seat that I got from Longbikes, a brand new powdercoated frame, and
>it
>comes with a complete full fairing. I would not ship this bike. If
>anybody wants to make an offer or look/ride it, I am located in
>Massachusetts about 10 minutes from Providence, RI and about 45
>minutes
>from Boston. The town is Seekonk,MA.
>Steve
>
>p.s. The bike is fully assembled and ready to ride. An older bike,
>have
>no idea of year but it works fine. I powdercoated the frame a color
>similar to army kacki green as I wanted to make the bike into a WWII
>theme bike.
>
>
>

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>From: steele.geoff@...
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [ryanownersclub] Vanguard for sale
>Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2007 17:41:59 -0400
>
>Does it have invasion stripes, or could it be mistaken for a wehrmacht
>machinen ?
>
>
>
>
>
>              "junkme2"
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>              07/29/2007 01:20         sale
>              PM
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>
>
>
>  Well after recently tinkering with my Ryan Vanguard's extra chain
>  pulley and somewhat loose steering, I think I am gonna sell the bike.
>  Not because of those two minor issues but I tend to use my Yellowbike
>  Dragon more often and enjoy the short wheel base bike, plus my
>  other "exotic" wheeled veicles need some attention.
>
>  I drive a 73 TVR and an 81 Porsche 911SC that I want to replace the
>  exhaust system on..So, I want to sell the Vanguard. BTW, I just took
>  her for a nice spin and it is a nice ride. I installed a BRAND NEW
>  mesh
>  seat that I got from Longbikes, a brand new powdercoated frame, and
>  it
>  comes with a complete full fairing. I would not ship this bike. If
>  anybody wants to make an offer or look/ride it, I am located in
>  Massachusetts about 10 minutes from Providence, RI and about 45
>  minutes
>  from Boston. The town is Seekonk,MA.
>  Steve
>
>  p.s. The bike is fully assembled and ready to ride. An older bike,
>  have
>  no idea of year but it works fine. I powdercoated the frame a color
>  similar to army kacki green as I wanted to make the bike into a WWII
>  theme bike.
>
>
>
>


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Does it have invasion stripes, or could it be mistaken for a wehrmacht
machinen ?





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  Well after recently tinkering with my Ryan Vanguard's extra chain
  pulley and somewhat loose steering, I think I am gonna sell the bike.
  Not because of those two minor issues but I tend to use my Yellowbike
  Dragon more often and enjoy the short wheel base bike, plus my
  other "exotic" wheeled veicles need some attention.

  I drive a 73 TVR and an 81 Porsche 911SC that I want to replace the
  exhaust system on..So, I want to sell the Vanguard. BTW, I just took
  her for a nice spin and it is a nice ride. I installed a BRAND NEW
  mesh
  seat that I got from Longbikes, a brand new powdercoated frame, and
  it
  comes with a complete full fairing. I would not ship this bike. If
  anybody wants to make an offer or look/ride it, I am located in
  Massachusetts about 10 minutes from Providence, RI and about 45
  minutes
  from Boston. The town is Seekonk,MA.
  Steve

  p.s. The bike is fully assembled and ready to ride. An older bike,
  have
  no idea of year but it works fine. I powdercoated the frame a color
  similar to army kacki green as I wanted to make the bike into a WWII
  theme bike.

The Vanguard I bought from Longbikes in 1999 already had a little
T-bar handlebar for mounting lights, though my previous Vanguard did
not.  I thought that was standard equipment now for LWB bents.
I don't use mine, as I have a helmet-mount headlight, though it does
come in handy sometimes for steadying the bike while opening gates or
garage doors, when I can't reach the seat back.

------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Karplus  karplus@... http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus
Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz
Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics
(Senior member, IEEE) (Board of Directors & Chair of Education Committee, ISCB)
life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed)
Affiliations for identification only.

Leo posted some photos of his water bottle mounts on the RyanOwners
site, but I can't find his e-mail address.
Does anyone have it?
Thanks,
Keith Nichols

Good source, John.  Thanks for this information...!!

Another option I've seen used is a short section of PVC (plumbing) type
tubing (thick-walled, heavy-duty type for 'pressure' lines) cut to fit
into the stem up front -- maybe with some shim, as required.  Then a PVC
Tee-fitting at the top of the tube, and two more short sections of
tubing glued on either side (with PVC cement) into the Tee, then capped
at the ends with rubber insert plugs for handlebars.  The unit can be
spray painted flat black (or a color to match your bike's tubing color).
This will allow mounting of a couple of lights, or a light/horn, or a
light/cyclometer combo.  Benefit is the cluster turns with the front
wheel, so you see where you're going.

Regards,
Geoff





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  All,


  After surfing all over to find a good way to mount a headlight, I stumbled upon
Terracycle.
  They have a universal mount that clamps onto any size tubing from 1/2" to
1-1/4".  See
 
http://www.terracycle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=T&Catego\
ry_Code=Acmts
  . It was on the third page of a Google search, so Terracycle needs to get this
thing exposed
  on more sites.  It's a bit pricey at $29.00, but it looks good and gives you
almost unlimited
  options in mounting locations and angles.


  I used it to mount a headlight at the front of our Longbikes Gulfstream.




  John P. Ittner



   (See attached file: Glacier Bkgrd.jpg)

Well after recently tinkering with my Ryan Vanguard's extra chain
pulley and somewhat loose steering, I think I am gonna sell the bike.
Not because of those two minor issues but I tend to use my Yellowbike
Dragon more often and enjoy the short wheel base bike, plus my
other "exotic" wheeled veicles need some attention.

I drive a 73 TVR and an 81 Porsche 911SC that I want to replace the
exhaust system on..So, I want to sell the Vanguard. BTW, I just took
her for a nice spin and it is a nice ride. I installed a BRAND NEW
mesh
seat that I got from Longbikes, a brand new powdercoated frame, and
it
comes with a complete full fairing. I would not ship this bike. If
anybody wants to make an offer or look/ride it, I am located in
Massachusetts about 10 minutes from Providence, RI and about 45
minutes
from Boston. The town is Seekonk,MA.
Steve

p.s. The bike is fully assembled and ready to ride. An older bike,
have
no idea of year but it works fine. I powdercoated the frame a color
similar to army kacki green as I wanted to make the bike into a WWII
theme bike.

Well my horn hook was broken/fatigued when I bought the bike last
winter, but the seller didn't tell me of course and I didn't know to
look, then when I broke it off the rest of the way on my first ride and
began to ride without, I mistakenly put the front strap between the
horn and the mesh thinking it would stop the machine from horning in on
my territory.

Don't do that (putting the strap between the horn and mesh).
Yesterday, the horn finished sawing off the strap while riding
(admittedly 1500 miles later) and I made do yesterday at work with a
couple of those big cardboard box staples to piece it together for the
ride home (14 miles one way).

Now I need the hook and the mesh, the recent postings on seat mesh are
very helpful.  Until then, I'm crouched over the pylon so to speak (but
the box staple is holding well, I'm going to go by a shoe store tonight
on the way home and see if they'll stitch the strap back together).

Yes, I was hoping to remove the horn prior to riding without but as my
bike was so well (ab)used I couldn't get it off without major
disassembly I left it on there, hoping to make it to December where I
had time to fully disassmble without missing the miles.

All,

After surfing all over to find a good way to mount a headlight, I stumbled upon Terracycle.  They have a universal mount that clamps onto any size tubing from 1/2" to 1-1/4".  See http://www.terracycle.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?Screen=CTGY&Store_Code=T&Category_Code=Acmts. It was on the third page of a Google search, so Terracycle needs to get this thing exposed on more sites.  It's a bit pricey at $29.00, but it looks good and gives you almost unlimited options in mounting locations and angles.

I used it to mount a headlight at the front of our Longbikes Gulfstream.

Another recent post to the old Topica list.

Bob Krzewinski

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     Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By grayp@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By Steele.Geoff@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By karplus@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By info@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By bentleycycle@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By bw_ramsey@...

     Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
     By karplus@...

------------------------------------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 13:35:46 +0000
From: Peter Gray <grayp@...>
Subject: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



I'm a new subscriber the list. I have a Ryan Vanguard, which I bought in
1999. I bought it used, but think it was made only a year or two
earlier.  I've put about 20,000 miles on the bike. I need to replace the
mesh seating.  The mesh is beginning to wear and the metal cleat that
hooks over the center horn is broken. Does anyone know of a source for
replacing this seat, or for getting a replacement for the broken cleat
(I can probably mend the mesh and keep it going for awhile)? I don't
need a new seat frame, only the mesh replacement or just the metal cleat
that attaches to the mesh.

Peter G.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 10:05:45 -0400
From: Steele.Geoff@...
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



Hello Peter:

For a new seat mesh, try Greg Peak, the owner of  Longbikes in
Englewood, CO.  He has contact with a lady somewhere that sews these up.
Greg's phone is:  (303) 986-9300

His email is:   Info@...


  Other parts for the Vanguard (i.e. steering tubes, in case you bend
  one) can be ordered from:  Peter Stull, The Bicycle Man, 570 Main
  Street, P.O. Box 186, Alfred Station, NY  14803.  Peter can be reached
  at (607) 587-8835 or via email at:   peter@...

  Blessings, and be careful out there...

  Geoff Steele
  Arlington, VA











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I'm a new subscriber the list. I have a Ryan Vanguard, which I bought in

1999. I bought it used, but think it was made only a year or two
earlier.  I've put about 20,000 miles on the bike. I need to replace the

mesh seating.  The mesh is beginning to wear and the metal cleat that
hooks over the center horn is broken. Does anyone know of a source for
replacing this seat, or for getting a replacement for the broken cleat
(I can probably mend the mesh and keep it going for awhile)? I don't
need a new seat frame, only the mesh replacement or just the metal cleat

that attaches to the mesh.

Peter G.






------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:40:51 -0700
From: Kevin Karplus <karplus@...>
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



I have a Longbikes Vanguard from 2000 that also needs to have the mesh
cover of the seat replaced (one of the straps tore out of the
stitching yesterday---I'll sew it up, but the mesh itself is somewhat
streched and worn).

So if anyone knows a good source for the mseh seat covers, post to all
of us.

------------------------------------------------------------
Kevin Karplus   karplus@...    http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus
Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz
Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics
(Senior member, IEEE)   (Board of Directors & Chair of Education Committee,
ISCB)
life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed)
Affiliations for identification only.


------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 09:38:48 -0500
From: Eric Siegmund <info@...>
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



If the Vanguard mesh seats are the same as those on the Duplex, Dick Ryan
can either provide new ones ($75 each) or repair the old ones ($15 each).
Note that these prices were quoted in March, 2006, so they may be different
today. I ordered and received replacements from Dick for both seat covers
last year.

Dick generally monitors this list, so he may weigh in on this himself.

Eric Siegmund
Midland, TX

On 7/13/07 9:05 AM, "Steele.Geoff@..." wrote:

> Hello Peter:
>
> For a new seat mesh, try Greg Peak, the owner of  Longbikes in
> Englewood, CO.  He has contact with a lady somewhere that sews these up.
> Greg's phone is:  (303) 986-9300
>
> His email is:   Info@...
>
>
> Other parts for the Vanguard (i.e. steering tubes, in case you bend
> one) can be ordered from:  Peter Stull, The Bicycle Man, 570 Main
> Street, P.O. Box 186, Alfred Station, NY  14803.  Peter can be reached
> at (607) 587-8835 or via email at:   peter@...
>
> Blessings, and be careful out there...
>
> Geoff Steele
> Arlington, VA
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>            Peter Gray
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>            07/13/2007 09:35         ryanownersclub@...
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>             Please respond          Seat replacement for Vanguard?
>                   to
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>               opica.com
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> I'm a new subscriber the list. I have a Ryan Vanguard, which I bought in
>
> 1999. I bought it used, but think it was made only a year or two
> earlier.  I've put about 20,000 miles on the bike. I need to replace the
>
> mesh seating.  The mesh is beginning to wear and the metal cleat that
> hooks over the center horn is broken. Does anyone know of a source for
> replacing this seat, or for getting a replacement for the broken cleat
> (I can probably mend the mesh and keep it going for awhile)? I don't
> need a new seat frame, only the mesh replacement or just the metal cleat
>
> that attaches to the mesh.
>
> Peter G.
>
>
>
>
>
>



------------------------------

Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:41:37 -0600
From: bentley cycle <bentleycycle@...>
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



Hello Peter,
This is Lynn at Bentley Cycle & Trading Post. We have in stock a 1995 Ryan
Vanguard with 2 extra brand new seats with full mesh. My husband brought
them in from the US & is asking $299.00 Can. for each extra seat. I am sorry
to say he will not sell the mesh separately as the combo is to hard to find
as you already know. Where are you located? Also you would have to find out
if the configuration of the seat is the same for yours as the one we have in
stock. You could send us a picture if you are interested. I will wait to
here from you.
Take Care
Lynn
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Gray" <grayp@...>
To: <ryanownersclub@...>
Sent: Friday, July 13, 2007 7:35 AM
Subject: Seat replacement for Vanguard?


> I'm a new subscriber the list. I have a Ryan Vanguard, which I bought in
> 1999. I bought it used, but think it was made only a year or two
> earlier.  I've put about 20,000 miles on the bike. I need to replace the
> mesh seating.  The mesh is beginning to wear and the metal cleat that
> hooks over the center horn is broken. Does anyone know of a source for
> replacing this seat, or for getting a replacement for the broken cleat
> (I can probably mend the mesh and keep it going for awhile)? I don't
> need a new seat frame, only the mesh replacement or just the metal cleat
> that attaches to the mesh.
>
> Peter G.
>
>
>
>
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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 14:39:30 -0700
From: "Billy Ramsey" <bw_ramsey@...>
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



OK, I just called the place that made mine a few years ago and they still
can make the web seats for anyone for $50.  The place is called "The Center
for Appropriate Transport (CAT)"  455 W. 1st Ave., Eugene, Or. 97401  (541)
683-3397 or (541) 344-1197.  When they made mine I didn't want the center
support hook, and I asked them about that during the call, I think you're
going to need to explain or get a picture to them so they would have a clear
understanding of the thing.  For what it's worth,  I think my seat is just
fine without it.


>From: Kevin Karplus <karplus@...>
>Reply-To: ryanownersclub@...
>To: ryanownersclub@...
>Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?
>Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 07:40:51 -0700
>
>I have a Longbikes Vanguard from 2000 that also needs to have the mesh
>cover of the seat replaced (one of the straps tore out of the
>stitching yesterday---I'll sew it up, but the mesh itself is somewhat
>streched and worn).
>
>So if anyone knows a good source for the mseh seat covers, post to all
>of us.
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>Kevin Karplus  karplus@...    http://www.soe.ucsc.edu/~karplus
>Professor of Biomolecular Engineering, University of California, Santa Cruz
>Undergraduate and Graduate Director, Bioinformatics
>(Senior member, IEEE)  (Board of Directors & Chair of Education Committee,
>ISCB)
>life member (LAB, Adventure Cycling, American Youth Hostels)
>Effective Cycling Instructor #218-ck (lapsed)
>Affiliations for identification only.
>
>

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Date: Fri, 13 Jul 2007 15:28:45 -0700
From: Kevin Karplus <karplus@...>
Subject: Re: Seat replacement for Vanguard?



Greg Peak of Longbikes says

> We keep Vanguard seat covers in stock even though our current version
> is not interchangeable.  We continue to support Vanguards.  The seat
> mesh is $105 plus $10 S&H.
>
> If you want to call with a credit card or mail a check we can get the
> mesh out.
>
> Greg Peek
> Longbikes & Degage
> 1500 W. Hampden Ave.
> Unit 4-G
> Englewood, CO 80110-2000
> Phone: 303-986-9300
> Fax: 303-986-9301
> Websites: www.degage.us for Rehab Products
>               : www.Longbikes.com for Bicycles
> Email: mailto:greg@...
>           mailto:greg@...


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This is a recent posting to the old Topica list.

Bob Krzewinski

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     Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
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     Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
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     Re: chain idler pulley
     By paul@...

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:07:44 -0400
From: "s j" <junkme2@...>
Subject: RE: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



Thanks Geoff;
I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new powdercoating..A
friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could possibly screw tight around
the frame, even putting a rubber insert to make a better grip..I will try
that route first. Have friend looking for a bracket for me. Will let you
know how I make out. Any ideas on the wobbly underseat steering bars?
Steve


>From: ryanownersclub@...
>To: ryanownersclub@...
>Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>
>-- Topica Digest --
>
>   Re: chain tensioner
>   By Steele.Geoff@...
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>From: Steele.Geoff@...
>Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>
>
>
>Hi Steve:
>
>If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the bottom
>tube of the frame,  just about under the front edge of the seat,  in
>order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to keep
>the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>obstacles).  If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>ask Dick for specs on it.  The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to bare
>metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward.  I'd
>also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point and/or
>the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it somehow.
>
>Regards,
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>
>
>              Steve  Barao
>              <junkme2@hotmail
>              .com>                                                   To
>                                       ryanownersclub@...
>              07/15/2007 10:30                                        cc
>              AM
>                                                                 Subject
>                                       chain tensioner
>               Please respond
>                     to
>              ryanownersclub@t
>                 opica.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi All;
>I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated. I
>have
>a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>chain
>tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with a
>bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some type
>of
>clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>coated
>frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>
>The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under the
>seat
>seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut seem
>to
>be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too much.
>A
>little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>http://liveearth.msn.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>------------------------------
>
>End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 338
>

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:46:58 -0600
From: Keith Nichols <keithnichols@...>
Subject: Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97 Vanguard
has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8" thick that is
bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2 bolts, same size as
you'd use to attach a water bottle holder.  It's pretty heavy duty so no
problem with bending.
A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very thin
bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through the roller
bearing.
This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled in
&/or covered up?

Keith in Colorado

   @

   \__^\

(O)"""""""o

1997 Ryan Vanguard

---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Barao wrote:
> Thanks Geoff;
> I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new
> powdercoating..A friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could
> possibly screw tight around the frame, even putting a rubber insert to
> make a better grip..I will try that route first. Have friend looking
> for a bracket for me. Will let you know how I make out. Any ideas on
> the wobbly underseat steering bars?
> Steve
>
>
>> From: ryanownersclub@...
>> To: ryanownersclub@...
>> Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>>
>> -- Topica Digest --
>>
>>     Re: chain tensioner
>>     By Steele.Geoff@...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>> From: Steele.Geoff@...
>> Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve:
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the bottom
>> tube of the frame,  just about under the front edge of the seat,  in
>> order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>> 'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to keep
>> the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>> obstacles).  If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>> ask Dick for specs on it.  The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>> you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>> probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to bare
>> metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward.  I'd
>> also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>> original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point and/or
>> the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it somehow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>              Steve  Barao
>>              <junkme2@hotmail
>>              .com>                                                   To
>>                                       ryanownersclub@...
>>              07/15/2007 10:30                                        cc
>>              AM
>>                                                                 Subject
>>                                       chain tensioner
>>               Please respond
>>                     to
>>              ryanownersclub@t
>>                 opica.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All;
>> I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated. I
>> have
>> a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>> chain
>> tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with a
>> bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some type
>> of
>> clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>> coated
>> frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>>
>> The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under the
>> seat
>> seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut seem
>> to
>> be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too much.
>> A
>> little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> http://liveearth.msn.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 338
>>
>
> _________________________________________________________________
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>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:11:13 -0400
From: Steele.Geoff@...
Subject: Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



Hi Keith:

Sure is possible, I guess.  If Steve's bike was just sandblasted and
powdercoated, they might have discovered such threaded bosses for bolts
on the bottom frame member.  I'll have to look at my bikes to see how
the brackets are mounted (and indeed if the two idler brackets are the
same configuration).  One of my bikes is an early production version;
the other is from the last production year, I think.  I'll try to look
tonight and let Steve and y'all know.

Dick's probably around someplace, so he may weigh in, too.  He might
even have parts left over.

Geoff







              Keith  Nichols
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                                       ryanownersclub@...
              07/17/2007 02:46                                        cc
              PM
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               Please respond          ryanownersclub@..., issue
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I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97 Vanguard
has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8" thick that is
bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2 bolts, same size as
you'd use to attach a water bottle holder.  It's pretty heavy duty so no

problem with bending.
A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very thin
bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through the roller

bearing.
This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled in
&/or covered up?

Keith in Colorado

   @

   \__^\

(O)"""""""o

1997 Ryan Vanguard

---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Barao wrote:
> Thanks Geoff;
> I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new
> powdercoating..A friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could
> possibly screw tight around the frame, even putting a rubber insert to

> make a better grip..I will try that route first. Have friend looking
> for a bracket for me. Will let you know how I make out. Any ideas on
> the wobbly underseat steering bars?
> Steve
>
>
>> From: ryanownersclub@...
>> To: ryanownersclub@...
>> Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>>
>> -- Topica Digest --
>>
>>     Re: chain tensioner
>>     By Steele.Geoff@...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>> From: Steele.Geoff@...
>> Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve:
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the
bottom
>> tube of the frame,  just about under the front edge of the seat,  in
>> order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>> 'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to
keep
>> the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>> obstacles).  If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>> ask Dick for specs on it.  The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>> you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>> probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to
bare
>> metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward.
I'd
>> also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>> original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point
and/or
>> the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it
somehow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>              Steve  Barao
>>              <junkme2@hotmail
>>              .com>
To
>>                                       ryanownersclub@...
>>              07/15/2007 10:30
cc
>>              AM
>>
Subject
>>                                       chain tensioner
>>               Please respond
>>                     to
>>              ryanownersclub@t
>>                 opica.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All;
>> I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated.
I
>> have
>> a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>> chain
>> tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with
a
>> bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some
type
>> of
>> clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>> coated
>> frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>>
>> The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under
the
>> seat
>> seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut
seem
>> to
>> be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too
much.
>> A
>> little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> http://liveearth.msn.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 338
>>
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>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:58:11 -0400
From: "Paul @ Class" <paul@...>
Subject: Re: chain idler pulley



It's not a silly question, Keith, but indeed, I believe that earlier
models did not have the chain support idler.

Steve, the perfect answer is to go back in time and have a couple
holes drilled before the powdercoating. But now that the coating is
done, I would go with the clamp-on idea that you are going with.

On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Keith Nichols wrote:

> I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97
> Vanguard has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8"
> thick that is bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2
> bolts, same size as you'd use to attach a water bottle holder.
> It's pretty heavy duty so no problem with bending.
> A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very
> thin bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through
> the roller bearing.
> This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled
> in &/or covered up?


------------------------------

End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 339

All the pictures I just added where taken today, except the one with
Dick Ryan.  Yes mine doesn't have a serial number either.  Thanks for
posting those other pictures, I also like to see the ideas of others.
I am riding my Vanguard a little more than normal because I had a
bicycle/pedestrian fall two months ago, and broke my scapula, clavicle
and a few ribs(always wear that helmet).  I just wished I had been on
the recumbent that day, it would have been impossible to have that
fall as we all know.

I received a "page not found" error when I tried your link.

I have an early nineties Vanguard as well.  The early ones did not have
serial numbers, and mine falls into that category.  The numbers, once
they started appearing, where on the bottom bracket I believe.

Paul B. Cooley
Santa Fe, NM
http://carfreefamily.blogspot.com
On Jul 7, 2007, at 11:42 PM, David K. Z. Harris wrote:

> I've put a few photos into an album here, to help kick things off.
>  There are more photos of the bike at
> http://ttt.esperanto.org/person/HARRIS_Dacxjo/bemi/
>
>  Can anyone tell me where to find my serial number? (And maybe what
>  year this teal color-of-the-year was made? I've lost my Recumbent
>  Pilots License from Steve des Jardins' Elleptic Cyclery long ago,
>  which was the only thing that had the date. It was erly in the 90's,
>  but the year has been lost to me.
>
>  Regards,
>
>  -Z-
>
>
>

I've put a few photos into an album here, to help kick things off.
There are more photos of the bike at
http://ttt.esperanto.org/person/HARRIS_Dacxjo/bemi/

Can anyone tell me where to find my serial number? (And maybe what
year this teal color-of-the-year was made? I've lost my Recumbent
Pilots License from Steve des Jardins' Elleptic Cyclery long ago,
which was the only thing that had the date. It was erly in the 90's,
but the year has been lost to me.

     Regards,

       -Z-

Welcome to the Yahoo Ryan Owners club and thanks for making the change.

Bob Krzewinski

Hi RJ-

This group isn't very busy. You should please re-post your question on
the active Ryan group which can be found here:
http://lists.topica.com/lists/ryanownersclub/

The answer I think is that aircraft suppliers have those rods
available. Such as Wick's supply. But people on the main group will be
able to answer for sure.

-ROC webmaster Paul


On Jan 19, 2005, at 2:41 PM, RJ wrote:

>
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am new to the group. I have a early 90's vintage Vanguard. I have
> been doing the repairs myself. But where can I get a steering rod? I
> hit a small dog and bent it badly. Straightened it and rode home, but
> I'm afraid I may have weakened it.
>
> RJ
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi All,

I am new to the group. I have a early 90's vintage Vanguard. I have
been doing the repairs myself. But where can I get a steering rod? I
hit a small dog and bent it badly. Straightened it and rode home, but
I'm afraid I may have weakened it.

RJ

Hello all, Ron here. I have an early 90's Vanguard that I am sadly
going to sell. I suffered a back injury 12 years ago which prevents
me from driving a car. I got the Vanguard early this summer used,
thinking that I was leaning back far enough so not to aggrivate my
back. I was wrong, so back to wedgies I go. I am a bike shop
mechanic, so I went through the bike, to make sure it in good shape.
I thought I would offer it here before I go to ebay. I am located in
Attleboro, MA. If you have any questions, juat ask. Thanks for
reading. Ron

--- In ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Bruneau <paul@e...>"
<paul@e...> wrote:
> Around here, we are somewhat fanatic about our Ryan Recumbents.
>
> Please feel free to ask any question. We are here to help each other
> and have fun.
>
> -Paul

Sure wish I knew of this site/group last year. I had to replace the
handlebar on my Vanguard. I had a heck of a time finding one. And
when I did it was a bit steep.

Mike.

Around here, we are somewhat fanatic about our Ryan Recumbents.

Please feel free to ask any question. We are here to help each other
and have fun.

-Paul