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#451 From: "teenrapide" <luke@...>
Date: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:09 pm
Subject: Is this a ryan? 		teenrapide
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Here's the pictures of the drop out and seat clamp-I'm rapidally coming to the

conclusion that it's not a ryan but thought I'd check anyway...



http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/dropoutdetail.JPG



http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/seatblock.JPG



Here's some general shots as well:



http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Profile.JPG

http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Front.JPG

http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/GearofGlasgow.JPG

http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Tubing.JPG


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#452 From: Paul Bruneau <paul@...>
Date: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:38 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a ryan? 		ethical_paul
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Hi again teenrapide-



Was this bike acquired in the UK? I seem to recall Dick mentioning

that there were some companies that copied his design there...



The custom hardware doesn't look like any Ryan that I have seen, but I

still can't quite rule it out. The workmanship seems lower than Dick's

work to me though.



But I can tell you that it probably feels very similar to a Ryan when

you are sitting on it :) the frame geometry is very close.



PB



On Jun 26, 2009, at 3:09 PM, teenrapide wrote:



>

>

> Here's the pictures of the drop out and seat clamp-I'm rapidally

> coming to the conclusion that it's not a ryan but thought I'd check

> anyway...

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/dropoutdetail.JPG

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/seatblock.JPG

>

> Here's some general shots as well:

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Profile.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Front.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/GearofGlasgow.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Tubing.JPG


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#453 From: "gbenth" <gbhbuckey@...>
Date: Fri Jun 26, 2009 7:42 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a ryan? 		gbenth
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--- In ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com, "teenrapide" <luke@...> wrote:

>

> Here's the pictures of the drop out and seat clamp-I'm rapidally coming to the

conclusion that it's not a ryan but thought I'd check anyway...

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/dropoutdetail.JPG

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/seatblock.JPG

>

> Here's some general shots as well:

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Profile.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Front.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/GearofGlasgow.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Tubing.JPG

>

Looks to me like an English made Peer Gynt. I only have 1 picture in my file and

is is very low res. so I can't be sure. The front fork angle and bend look the

same as do the steering bars and frame angles. You might try doing some web

searches on the eastern side of the pond.


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#454 From: Geoff Steele <gstee1_4him@...>
Date: Fri Jun 26, 2009 9:28 pm
Subject: RE: Is this a ryan? 		geoff_steele
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Seat clamp arrangement doesn't look like a Ryan original, but it might have been 'created' by the current owner in an effort to improve the bike (??).  Side view of the bike has the general appearance of a Vanguard, but it may be a 'knock-off' (there were several copy designs made in the world, as the Vanguard was not patented).
 
G. Steele 
To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
From: luke@...
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:09:56 +0000
Subject: [ryanownersclub] Is this a ryan?


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#459 From: "westsidegrls" <westsidegrls@...>
Date: Fri Aug 7, 2009 8:41 pm
Subject: Re: Is this a ryan? 		westsidegrls
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--- In ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Steele <gstee1_4him@...> wrote:

>

>

> Seat clamp arrangement doesn't look like a Ryan original, but it might have

been 'created' by the current owner in an effort to improve the bike (??).  Side

view of the bike has the general appearance of a Vanguard, but it may be a

'knock-off' (there were several copy designs made in the world, as the Vanguard

was not patented).

>

>

>

> G. Steele

>

>

> To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com

> From: luke@...

> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:09:56 +0000

> Subject: [ryanownersclub] Is this a ryan?

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Here's the pictures of the drop out and seat clamp-I'm rapidally coming to the

conclusion that it's not a ryan but thought I'd check anyway...

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/dropoutdetail.JPG

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/seatblock.JPG

>

> Here's some general shots as well:

>

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Profile.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Front.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/GearofGlasgow.JPG

> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Tubing.JPG

>

My Ryan Recumbent was the real deal.They only made 1,200.The Ryan Shield was

still on the front and on the frame it had Vanguard.


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#461 From: Geoff Steele <gstee1_4him@...>
Date: Sun Aug 9, 2009 3:11 am
Subject: RE: Re: Is this a ryan? 		geoff_steele
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Paint job looks 'after-market' and not the best quality.  Seat block arrangement and handlebars are not Ryan quality as I know it to be.  The seat is not what appears to be a Ryan-fabricated seat, either.
 
This appears to be a definite knock-off of the Ryan design.  If it works -- fine, but definitely don't try to sell (or buy) it as a Ryan 'Vanguard' IMHO.  It may be a re-rigged DeFelice (i.e. seat geometry changed and steering cables replaced with a seat handlebar block and steering torque tube).
 
Geoff
 

 
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From: westsidegrls@...
Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 20:41:46 +0000
Subject: [ryanownersclub] Re: Is this a ryan?

 
--- In ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com, Geoff Steele <gstee1_4him@...> wrote:
>
>
> Seat clamp arrangement doesn't look like a Ryan original, but it might have been 'created' by the current owner in an effort to improve the bike (??). Side view of the bike has the general appearance of a Vanguard, but it may be a 'knock-off' (there were several copy designs made in the world, as the Vanguard was not patented).
>
>
>
> G. Steele
>
>
> To: ryanownersclub@yahoogroups.com
> From: luke@...
> Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:09:56 +0000
> Subject: [ryanownersclub] Is this a ryan?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Here's the pictures of the drop out and seat clamp-I'm rapidally coming to the conclusion that it's not a ryan but thought I'd check anyway...
>
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/dropoutdetail.JPG
>
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/seatblock.JPG
>
> Here's some general shots as well:
>
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Profile.JPG
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Front.JPG
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/GearofGlasgow.JPG
> http://www.sixbysevendesign.com/images/Tubing.JPG
>
My Ryan Recumbent was the real deal.They only made 1,200.The Ryan Shield was still on the front and on the frame it had Vanguard.



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