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RE: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
By junkme2@...

Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
By keithnichols@...

Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
By Steele.Geoff@...

Re: chain idler pulley
By paul@...

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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 09:07:44 -0400
From: "s j" <junkme2@...>
Subject: RE: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



Thanks Geoff;
I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new powdercoating..A
friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could possibly screw tight around
the frame, even putting a rubber insert to make a better grip..I will try
that route first. Have friend looking for a bracket for me. Will let you
know how I make out. Any ideas on the wobbly underseat steering bars?
Steve


>From: ryanownersclub@...
>To: ryanownersclub@...
>Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>
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>
> Re: chain tensioner
> By Steele.Geoff@...
>
>------------------------------------------------------------
>
>Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>From: Steele.Geoff@...
>Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>
>
>
>Hi Steve:
>
>If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the bottom
>tube of the frame, just about under the front edge of the seat, in
>order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to keep
>the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>obstacles). If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>ask Dick for specs on it. The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to bare
>metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward. I'd
>also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point and/or
>the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it somehow.
>
>Regards,
>
>Geoff
>
>
>
>
>
> Steve Barao
> <junkme2@hotmail
> .com> To
> ryanownersclub@...
> 07/15/2007 10:30 cc
> AM
> Subject
> chain tensioner
> Please respond
> to
> ryanownersclub@t
> opica.com
>
>
>
>
>
>
>Hi All;
>I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated. I
>have
>a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>chain
>tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with a
>bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some type
>of
>clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>coated
>frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>
>The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under the
>seat
>seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut seem
>to
>be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too much.
>A
>little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>
>Thanks in advance.
>Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>
>_________________________________________________________________
>http://liveearth.msn.com
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 12:46:58 -0600
From: Keith Nichols <keithnichols@...>
Subject: Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97 Vanguard
has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8" thick that is
bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2 bolts, same size as
you'd use to attach a water bottle holder. It's pretty heavy duty so no
problem with bending.
A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very thin
bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through the roller
bearing.
This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled in
&/or covered up?

Keith in Colorado

@

\__^\

(O)"""""""o

1997 Ryan Vanguard

---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Barao wrote:
> Thanks Geoff;
> I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new
> powdercoating..A friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could
> possibly screw tight around the frame, even putting a rubber insert to
> make a better grip..I will try that route first. Have friend looking
> for a bracket for me. Will let you know how I make out. Any ideas on
> the wobbly underseat steering bars?
> Steve
>
>
>> From: ryanownersclub@...
>> To: ryanownersclub@...
>> Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>>
>> -- Topica Digest --
>>
>> Re: chain tensioner
>> By Steele.Geoff@...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>> From: Steele.Geoff@...
>> Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve:
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the bottom
>> tube of the frame, just about under the front edge of the seat, in
>> order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>> 'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to keep
>> the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>> obstacles). If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>> ask Dick for specs on it. The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>> you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>> probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to bare
>> metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward. I'd
>> also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>> original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point and/or
>> the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it somehow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Barao
>> <junkme2@hotmail
>> .com> To
>> ryanownersclub@...
>> 07/15/2007 10:30 cc
>> AM
>> Subject
>> chain tensioner
>> Please respond
>> to
>> ryanownersclub@t
>> opica.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All;
>> I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated. I
>> have
>> a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>> chain
>> tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with a
>> bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some type
>> of
>> clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>> coated
>> frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>>
>> The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under the
>> seat
>> seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut seem
>> to
>> be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too much.
>> A
>> little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> http://liveearth.msn.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 338
>>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:11:13 -0400
From: Steele.Geoff@...
Subject: Re: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338



Hi Keith:

Sure is possible, I guess. If Steve's bike was just sandblasted and
powdercoated, they might have discovered such threaded bosses for bolts
on the bottom frame member. I'll have to look at my bikes to see how
the brackets are mounted (and indeed if the two idler brackets are the
same configuration). One of my bikes is an early production version;
the other is from the last production year, I think. I'll try to look
tonight and let Steve and y'all know.

Dick's probably around someplace, so he may weigh in, too. He might
even have parts left over.

Geoff







Keith Nichols
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ryanownersclub@t
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I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97 Vanguard
has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8" thick that is
bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2 bolts, same size as
you'd use to attach a water bottle holder. It's pretty heavy duty so no

problem with bending.
A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very thin
bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through the roller

bearing.
This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled in
&/or covered up?

Keith in Colorado

@

\__^\

(O)"""""""o

1997 Ryan Vanguard

---------------------------------------------------------------
Steve Barao wrote:
> Thanks Geoff;
> I think you are right in that I would hate to wreck the new
> powdercoating..A friend suggested a clamp on bracket that I could
> possibly screw tight around the frame, even putting a rubber insert to

> make a better grip..I will try that route first. Have friend looking
> for a bracket for me. Will let you know how I make out. Any ideas on
> the wobbly underseat steering bars?
> Steve
>
>
>> From: ryanownersclub@...
>> To: ryanownersclub@...
>> Subject: Digest for ryanownersclub@..., issue 338
>> Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 04:01:46 -0700
>>
>> -- Topica Digest --
>>
>> Re: chain tensioner
>> By Steele.Geoff@...
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> Date: Mon, 16 Jul 2007 11:09:02 -0400
>> From: Steele.Geoff@...
>> Subject: Re: chain tensioner
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Steve:
>>
>> If I recall correctly, Dick had an L-shaped bracket welded to the
bottom
>> tube of the frame, just about under the front edge of the seat, in
>> order to mount and hold the chain idler wheel (it's not really a
>> 'tensioner', per se, I think, but rather just a support roller to
keep
>> the bottom side of the chain up higher and away from possible ground
>> obstacles). If that bracket is missing from your Vanguard, you might
>> ask Dick for specs on it. The thought of having one welded on AFTER
>> you've had the bike powercoated/painted is painful, as the heat would
>> probably discolor the finish (which would have to be sanded down to
bare
>> metal anyhow for the weld) and would require a touch-up afterward.
I'd
>> also suggest making the bracket out of slightly thicker material than
>> original, as that bracket can bend at the roller mounting point
and/or
>> the point where it makes the 90-degree bend) if you stress it
somehow.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Geoff
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Steve Barao
>> <junkme2@hotmail
>> .com>
To
>> ryanownersclub@...
>> 07/15/2007 10:30
cc
>> AM
>>
Subject
>> chain tensioner
>> Please respond
>> to
>> ryanownersclub@t
>> opica.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi All;
>> I bought an older Ryan Vanguard. I just had the frame powder coated.
I
>> have
>> a couple of issues I would like to address. The chain does not have a
>> chain
>> tensioner pulley like on the newer Vanguards. I have the pulley with
a
>> bracket but don't know how to attach it to the frame. Is there some
type
>> of
>> clamp on bracket. I would hate to try to drill into the new powder
>> coated
>> frame and I wouldn't even know how.
>>
>> The other issue I have is that my underseat steering assembly under
the
>> seat
>> seems to have too much play in it even though the main bolt and nut
seem
>> to
>> be fully tightened. The grips just seem to wobble up and down too
much.
>> A
>> little scary when riding. Should I just add washers to the long bolt?
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>> Steve Barao in Massachusetts. Near Providence, RI
>>
>> _________________________________________________________________
>> http://liveearth.msn.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>>
>> End of ryanownersclub@... digest, issue 338
>>
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Date: Tue, 17 Jul 2007 15:58:11 -0400
From: "Paul @ Class" <paul@...>
Subject: Re: chain idler pulley



It's not a silly question, Keith, but indeed, I believe that earlier
models did not have the chain support idler.

Steve, the perfect answer is to go back in time and have a couple
holes drilled before the powdercoating. But now that the coating is
done, I would go with the clamp-on idea that you are going with.

On Jul 17, 2007, at 2:46 PM, Keith Nichols wrote:

> I don't know about previous or subsequent models, but my '97
> Vanguard has a 90° aluminum bracket that appears to be about 1/8"
> thick that is bolted to the underside of the frame tube using 2
> bolts, same size as you'd use to attach a water bottle holder.
> It's pretty heavy duty so no problem with bending.
> A long bolt then runs through the bracket, through another very
> thin bracket that keeps the chain on the guide roller, and through
> the roller bearing.
> This may be a silly question but might the frame holes been filled
> in &/or covered up?


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