Bob,

I think you mean Sat. May 7th.  The 8th is a Sunday.  I guess that's
the same day they are having the Edison Family day 5K race at 9:30
AM.  Oh, well---one or the other???

Rich
--- In rvrr@yahoogroups.com, "rvrrbob" <btownley@a...> wrote:
> Just another reminder:
>
> Saturday May 8th - Midland warm-up run - Meet at Far Hills train
> station for a practice run on the Midland course - brunch at Sherry
> and Moshe's to follow
>
> Sunday May 15th - Midland 5K and 15K - followed by RVRR picnic. Club
> is providing drinks and subs, we ask everyone else to bring a dish
or
> dessert or something like that
>
> Bob

I've come to several runs on Wed. and Sat.  It seems like there are
basically 3 groups of runners at 7:30 or faster, 8:30 and 9:30 per
mile.  My problem is that I am basically slower than that and can only
keep up with the 9:30 group for a mile or 2 at most.  Are there any
runners in the group that are slower like me?

Of course I'm always hoping to get better, but being so slow I feel I
need to concentrate on shorter runs, track work and gym workouts more
that long runs to work on my speed.  I'm honestly so slow when it gets
over 10K that I rarely want anything longer.  I can't even run a mile
faster than 8 min. anymore!  Any tips or ideas out there?  Any slower
runners?

Rich

YES- the Midland run preview run is SATURDAY, MAY 7th!


Thanks for noticing, Richard!


EVERYBODY MARK YOUR CALENDARS!


--- "Richard P. Weidmann" <weidmann@...>
wrote:
> Bob,
>
> I think you mean Sat. May 7th.  The 8th is a Sunday.
>  I guess that's
> the same day they are having the Edison Family day
> 5K race at 9:30
> AM.  Oh, well---one or the other???
>
> Rich
> --- In rvrr@yahoogroups.com, "rvrrbob"
> <btownley@a...> wrote:
> > Just another reminder:
> >
> > Saturday May 8th - Midland warm-up run - Meet at
> Far Hills train
> > station for a practice run on the Midland course -
> brunch at Sherry
> > and Moshe's to follow
> >
> > Sunday May 15th - Midland 5K and 15K - followed by
> RVRR picnic. Club
> > is providing drinks and subs, we ask everyone else
> to bring a dish
> or
> > dessert or something like that
> >
> > Bob
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Rich,

90% of getting faster will depend on your aerobic
conditioning: the ability of your circulatory system
to deliver oxygen and remove CO2.  The type of gains
you are looking for - running 9:00 or 9:30 for 7 or 8
miles - will not come from running shorter, track, or
gym workouts.

In my opinion, you should concentrate on increasing
your weekly mileage over some number of months, mostly
at aerobic paces.  Vary the surfaces and terrain; make
sure you run some hilly courses once or twice per
week.  You will increase the size and strength of your
heart, increase the volume of capillaries that supply
your muscles with blood, even add more mitochondria to
your muscle fibers.  All this stuff goes on at the
cellular level and is hard to observe.  Over time, it
will become easier to run with others at relatively
faster paces.


--- "Richard P. Weidmann" <weidmann@...>
wrote:

> Of course I'm always hoping to get better, but being
> so slow I feel I
> need to concentrate on shorter runs, track work and
> gym workouts more
> that long runs to work on my speed.  I'm honestly so
> slow when it gets
> over 10K that I rarely want anything longer.  I
> can't even run a mile
> faster than 8 min. anymore!  Any tips or ideas out
> there?  Any slower
> runners?
>
> Rich

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2     RVRR A MEN 40                           2:34:20
      23.John C. Kane         Bridgewater,NJ     46 M
43    U  302    30:11  *
      25.Sergio Cano          Union City,NJ      41 M
43    U   68    30:30  *
      27.Ken Vercammen        North Brunswick,NJ 45 M
43    U   10    30:37  *
      28.Rodrigo Caceres      Roselle Park,NJ    44 M
43    U  143    30:45  *
      46.Roger Price          Piscataway,NJ      56 M
43    U   33    32:17  *
      52.Christpher Lehman    Somerset,NJ        55 M
43    U  269    32:45
      55.Joe Lanzalatto       Kendall Park,NJ    53 M
43        17    32:54
      76.Bill Hagman          Morris Plains,NJ   61 M
43    U  251    34:41

2     RVRR A MEN 50                           2:47:30
      46.Roger Price          Piscataway,NJ      56 M
43    U   33    32:17  *
      52.Christpher Lehman    Somerset,NJ        55 M
43    U  269    32:45  *
      55.Joe Lanzalatto       Kendall Park,NJ    53 M
43        17    32:54  *
      76.Bill Hagman          Morris Plains,NJ   61 M
43    U  251    34:41  *
      77.Frank J. Russo       Wayne,NJ           52 M
63    U  472    34:53  *
      89.Gary Rosenberg       Summit,NJ          57 M
63  S U  187    35:36
     197.Ray Schick           Califon,NJ         51 M
63    U  198    39:50

4     RVRR A WOMEN 40                         1:56:01
     132.Sherrie Felton       Bedminster,NJ      44 F
143   U  205    37:27  *
     175.Mary Foley           New Egypt,NJ       49 F
143   U  212    39:04  *
     186.Kathleen Higgins     Edison,NJ          40 F
143   U   79    39:30  *
     350.Rosanne Lemongello   Basking Ridge,NJ   43 F
143   U  324    47:37

4     RVRR A WOMEN 50                         2:10:01
     238.Imme Dyson           Princeton,NJ       68 F
183   U  173    42:08  *
     278.Dorothy Little       Hopewell,NJ        65 F
183   U  337    43:46  *
     289.Patricia O'hanlon    Jersey City,NJ     61 F
183   U   69    44:07  *
     424.Annette Johnson      Somerset,NJ        68 F
183   U   46    56:00

1     RVRR A WOMEN 60                         2:10:01
     238.Imme Dyson           Princeton,NJ       68 F
183   U  173    42:08  *
     278.Dorothy Little       Hopewell,NJ        65 F
183   U  337    43:46  *
     289.Patricia O'hanlon    Jersey City,NJ     61 F
183   U   69    44:07  *
     424.Annette Johnson      Somerset,NJ        68 F
183   U   46    56:00

MALE AGES 30 TO 34
    1.Gregory Mullins      Wharton,NJ         30 M
11   U  281    28:42   5:44

FEMALE AGES 30 TO 34
    2.Jill Knorr           Spotswood,NJ       34 F
101   U  318    36:14   7:15

FEMALE AGES 35 TO 39
    2.Cathy Glamkowski     Bridgewater,NJ     35 F
58   U  138    33:02   6:36

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Well said John, I liked your e-mail.
No hard feelings. Hugo

--- John Papp <fastfoward123@...> wrote:
> This is my formal apology for the "ALL IN JEST"
> posting on Kathy's
> birthday this past week. I felt the negative
> comments from people
> I consider friends. People who I have shared many
> good runs, races,
> social occasions and jokes. It hurts me deeply if I
> offended anyone.
> For that I am DEEPLY SORRY. This was not my intent.
>
> The phrase I used (Not to be repeated) I have heard
> used MANY TIMES
> by my fellow Jewish co-workers over the years. It
> was always used
> lightly and IN JEST. The origin and intent of a
> phrase change over
> time. People say, "IT'S JUST AN EXPRESSION". From my
>
> point of view, that's all it was. I had never seen
> anyone take
> offense to this, so it was a huge surprise to me the
> reactions it
> brought among friends, people I thought knew me
> well.
>
> We all are guilty of using COMMON EXPRESSIONS every
> day. Words and
> phrases are constantly evolving and change meaning
> over time. Even
> sign gestures,  can be OK in one culture, but can be
> an insult in
> another. This can hurt us at times, but it can help
> us grow, if it
> raises our level of awareness. Life is a process of
> awakening, so
> thank you for making me aware with your comments.
>
> I have always strived to be an active RVRR CLUB
> member and friend to
> fellow runners in this club for over six years. I
> have volunteered
> whenever asked. Served on the board. Ran for the
> racing teams.
> Recently, I have been setting up coaching programs
> for new runners.
> In coming weeks, I have made contacts with the
> Leucemia Society- Team
> in Training Program, who will be joining our group
> runs. I did this
> to introduce NEW RUNNERS the RVRR club.
>
> With the showers of negative comments this week, WE
> should ALL do
> some spring cleaning of our hearts, minds and souls.
> Let it go and
> let grow. I am not angry. I hope there is no anger
> felt toward me. My
> intention was to joyfully celebrated Kathy's
> upcoming 40th B-day. We
> need celebrations. Life is too short. Let it go and
> let's party.
>
> To bring may flowers, I promise to spring clean my
> words, actions and
> thoughts. I have been sick, but hope to be well and
> running soon.
>
> Let us all get back to posting comments about
> running, shall we? And
> please let this week go. I need to feel better as do
> we all.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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Also, if I may expand on Gene's last point: how about people posting their
future race plans?

When I first started RVRR and didn't know anyone I found out I was standing
next to one or several RVRR-ers at a recent race and didn't know it!   Or
maybe there's a facility for that already ???

-J

>From: "Dagfinn Fang" <thinnmann@...>
>Reply-To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [RVRR] New RVRR Board Official Notices group is coming
>Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2005 23:18:26 -0000
>
>Hi-
>
>There are so many more messages on our Yahoo! group lately that the
>need to seperate the "official" messages has arisen.
>
>I have created a Yahoo! group called RVRR Board, so board members can
>post official information about club runs and other official club
>events.  We will begin using this on or about May 10th.
>
>I will be directly adding 10 people per day that are already members
>of this group to the new group for official RVRR messages.  I will
>only be doing this for members of the group that have chosen to have
>individual emails, daily digests or special notices emailed directly
>to them.  I will not be directly adding members who have elected to
>receive no emails - I will simply invite them.
>
>I am letting you know this so you do not start thinking I am
>overstepping the access I have to your email addresses via the current
>RVRR Yahoo group.  If you want to leave the RVRR Board group, you can
>opt out following the links in the emails or directly at Yahoo!
>groups.
>
>If you are so excited about this that you simply can not wait for me
>to add you, and you are ready to sign yourself into the group, you may
>do so at http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/rvrrboard/
>
>In the meantime continue to enjoy this group, which will continue to
>flourish with everyone's greater use of the Internet and more
>willingness to participate in the interaction it brings!
>
>I wish more people would start using it to find running buddies.  Just
>say where you are going to start your run, what time, what distance
>and pace, and ask people to meet you there.  Um, but I am just
>realizing that might invite trouble for some of us - but being adults,
>use your best judgement!  :)
>
>One more thing: If you need to renew or join RVRR you can now do it
>online at active.com!
>http://www.active.com/event_detail.cfm?event_id=1221732
>
>
>
>
>
>

>>>>
In my opinion, you should concentrate on increasing
your weekly mileage over some number of months, mostly
at aerobic paces.
<<<<<

Thanks for the advice Gene.

This increasing speed stuff does tend to "sneak up" on
ya over time...

Can you clarify what YOU define an "aerobic" pace to
be as per your statement above?

Im looking towards the fall "marathon" season and the
goal of breaking 4:00 for the Marathon.

Training pace these days is a bit slower (but it also
is "early" season for me) at around 8:30 (it was
around 8:15 but two bouts with non running related
illness has taken out 0:15).

Last year I managed to train at the 8:00 to 8:05 pace.
I could push 7:45 for a mile or so in the 6 mile run.

On the other hand I found myself running at 10:30 pace
at the Marathon (both NYC and Philly) forever feeling
that I couldnt pick up that pace and still sustain it
for 26.2 miles. That being the same season where I
clocked 7:30-7:45 pace at the 10K distance.... go
figure... NYC was just too hot and really a long
training run for me (4:37 ish) and Philly I managed to
pick up the pace at Mile 20 and crank in a 4:11 ish).

This year's Braod Street Run I was able to sustain
solid 8:30 pace with a blip or two at 8:40-8:45
(oops!) even AFTER losing 6lbs in 12 hours due to a
"stomach flu" two days before the race. I was just
glad to START. I was surprised to break my previous PR
(and had I realized that GUN time counted for the team
time I would have saved 4min and pushed furhter up
front for the start - but then may have lost my
impromptu "pacers" that I used for the first 5
miles...

I managed a chip time of 1:25.... not bad considering
I was surprised to be able to START...

FYI

--- USATF-NJ <usatfnj@...> wrote:
> To: USATFNJ_LDR@yahoogroups.com
> From: USATF-NJ <usatfnj@...>
> Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:43:27 -0400
> Subject: [USATFNJ_LDR] Reminder - USATF-NJ LDR
> meeting tonight
>
> The next meeting for the USATF-NJ Long Distance
> Running Committee will
> be held tonight, May 2nd, 2005, at the Verizon
> Building – Bedminster
> Cafeteria at 7:30pm.
>
> Agenda items will include elections of all positions
> in the USATF-NJ LDR
> Committee; a review of the Championship races that
> have been held so far
> this year and we will take volunteers to work
> upcoming LDR Championships
> events.
>
> To suggest additional agenda items, please contact
> Madeline Bost at
> madeline.bost@... or Pam Fales at
> usatfnj@....
>
> Directions to Verizon Wireless Headquarters in
> Bedminster are below.
> Regards,
> Pam Fales
> Managing Director
> USATF-NJ Association
>  <mailto:usatfnj@...> usatfnj@...
> Phone:  973-334-8900; Fax: 973-334-8925
> PO Box 330
> Boonton, NJ  07005
>
>
> Directions to the LDR Meeting:
> From Newark and East: Take Route 78 West to Exit 29
> (287 North). On
> Route 287 North take the first exit to Route 206
> South (Exit 22A).  Keep
> going straight. Go to the second light (intersection
> with a Gulf and
> Exxon station) and turn Left.  Take second Right
> into the Verizon
> Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> straight ahead.
>
> From Morristown and the North: Take Route 287 South
> to Exit 22 (Route
> 206) Turn Right at the end of the ramp (the road
> runs one way).  Bear
> Right immediately onto U-Turn, make a Left at the
> light onto Route 206
> South. Turn Left at third light (intersection with a
> Gulf and Exxon
> station).  Stay in Right lane and take 2nd Right
> into the Verizon
> Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> straight ahead.
>
> From the South or from Middlesex area: Take Route
> 206 North or Route 287
> North. After exiting 287 at Exit for Route 206
> South, pass four traffic
> lights.  The entrance to the Verizon Wireless
> building is on your Right,
> about ¼ mile after you pass the Bridgewater Manor.
> If entrance is
> closed, proceed straight to the next light and turn
> right.  Take second
> Right into the Verizon Wireless parking lots and go
> into the main
> building, straight ahead.
>
>

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by the way, here are the results:
sue juronics 1:13
imme dyson 1:20
mary foley 1:25
cheryl scher 1:27
lois brownklein 1:41
these are the actual, not chip times (which looked much better)

Just to say, the RVRR were well represented yesterday at the Broad
Street Run with Imme Dyson, Mary Foley, Sue Juronics, Cheryl Scher,
and myself as well as Ed and more. I think I can safely speak for the
other women's master runners and myself that we were very happy with
our times. In addition to that, congratulations to Imme and Mary who
booked out of there and made it to the Summit race where they again
performed amazingly. Now, that is impressive as well.

Thanks Gene for posting this.
Most RVRR members may not have heard but currently there is some
friction between USATF-NJ and our club regarding the East Brunswick
Road Races date. Quite a while ago RD Cathy Glamkowski asked the
USATF-NJ director if October 23 would be in conflict with any USATF-NJ
championship races and was told that the date was clear. She then
proceeded to promote our event, notified calendars and had the flyers
and other materials printed.

Last month it was discovered that USATF-NJ had changed their date
for the 5k XC championship to that same day. Apparently despite many
emails and telephone calls they are unwilling to avoid the conflict.
It seems that that is the only day that the Holmdel course is
available and they are determined it be held there.
Clearly a championship race on the same day will have a very bad
effect on the number of runners and the success of E.B.
There is obviously plenty of time to find an alternate date and
there are other possible locations for the XC race but they seem set
on using the date we were promised was free.

RVRR has always been one of the biggest supporters of the USATF-NJ
Grand Prix and this action is a slap in our face.

If you feel strongly about this I recommend that you attend the
meeting tonight and let your opinion be known.

And if you are interested in running...a group of us will be running
at River Rd. in Bedminster tonight from  6:00 to 7:00 and then will
head over to the meeting.

See you there,

Chris

--- In rvrr@yahoogroups.com, Gene Gugliotta <thinnmann@y...> wrote:
> FYI
>
> --- USATF-NJ <usatfnj@u...> wrote:
> > To: USATFNJ_LDR@yahoogroups.com
> > From: USATF-NJ <usatfnj@u...>
> > Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:43:27 -0400
> > Subject: [USATFNJ_LDR] Reminder - USATF-NJ LDR
> > meeting tonight
> >
> > The next meeting for the USATF-NJ Long Distance
> > Running Committee will
> > be held tonight, May 2nd, 2005, at the Verizon
> > Building – Bedminster
> > Cafeteria at 7:30pm.
> >
> > Agenda items will include elections of all positions
> > in the USATF-NJ LDR
> > Committee; a review of the Championship races that
> > have been held so far
> > this year and we will take volunteers to work
> > upcoming LDR Championships
> > events.
> >
> > To suggest additional agenda items, please contact
> > Madeline Bost at
> > madeline.bost@a... or Pam Fales at
> > usatfnj@u...
> >
> > Directions to Verizon Wireless Headquarters in
> > Bedminster are below.
> > Regards,
> > Pam Fales
> > Managing Director
> > USATF-NJ Association
> >  <mailto:usatfnj@u...> usatfnj@u...
> > Phone:  973-334-8900; Fax: 973-334-8925
> > PO Box 330
> > Boonton, NJ  07005
> >
> >
> > Directions to the LDR Meeting:
> > From Newark and East: Take Route 78 West to Exit 29
> > (287 North). On
> > Route 287 North take the first exit to Route 206
> > South (Exit 22A).  Keep
> > going straight. Go to the second light (intersection
> > with a Gulf and
> > Exxon station) and turn Left.  Take second Right
> > into the Verizon
> > Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> > straight ahead.
> >
> > From Morristown and the North: Take Route 287 South
> > to Exit 22 (Route
> > 206) Turn Right at the end of the ramp (the road
> > runs one way).  Bear
> > Right immediately onto U-Turn, make a Left at the
> > light onto Route 206
> > South. Turn Left at third light (intersection with a
> > Gulf and Exxon
> > station).  Stay in Right lane and take 2nd Right
> > into the Verizon
> > Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> > straight ahead.
> >
> > From the South or from Middlesex area: Take Route
> > 206 North or Route 287
> > North. After exiting 287 at Exit for Route 206
> > South, pass four traffic
> > lights.  The entrance to the Verizon Wireless
> > building is on your Right,
> > about ¼ mile after you pass the Bridgewater Manor.
> > If entrance is
> > closed, proceed straight to the next light and turn
> > right.  Take second
> > Right into the Verizon Wireless parking lots and go
> > into the main
> > building, straight ahead.

Sorry this did not get onto the airwaves until 8:40 PM

I was asked to attend the meeting for USATF-NJ web site issues, but
could not make it because of family issues - please report on the
event and the outcome.

--- In rvrr@yahoogroups.com, "Chris Lehman" <pongrunner@y...> wrote:
> Thanks Gene for posting this.
> Most RVRR members may not have heard but currently there is some
> friction between USATF-NJ and our club regarding the East Brunswick
> Road Races date. Quite a while ago RD Cathy Glamkowski asked the
> USATF-NJ director if October 23 would be in conflict with any USATF-NJ
> championship races and was told that the date was clear. She then
> proceeded to promote our event, notified calendars and had the flyers
> and other materials printed.
>
> Last month it was discovered that USATF-NJ had changed their date
> for the 5k XC championship to that same day. Apparently despite many
> emails and telephone calls they are unwilling to avoid the conflict.
> It seems that that is the only day that the Holmdel course is
> available and they are determined it be held there.
> Clearly a championship race on the same day will have a very bad
> effect on the number of runners and the success of E.B.
> There is obviously plenty of time to find an alternate date and
> there are other possible locations for the XC race but they seem set
> on using the date we were promised was free.
>
> RVRR has always been one of the biggest supporters of the USATF-NJ
> Grand Prix and this action is a slap in our face.
>
> If you feel strongly about this I recommend that you attend the
> meeting tonight and let your opinion be known.
>
> And if you are interested in running...a group of us will be running
> at River Rd. in Bedminster tonight from  6:00 to 7:00 and then will
> head over to the meeting.
>
> See you there,
>
> Chris
>
> --- In rvrr@yahoogroups.com, Gene Gugliotta <thinnmann@y...> wrote:
> > FYI
> >
> > --- USATF-NJ <usatfnj@u...> wrote:
> > > To: USATFNJ_LDR@yahoogroups.com
> > > From: USATF-NJ <usatfnj@u...>
> > > Date: Mon, 02 May 2005 10:43:27 -0400
> > > Subject: [USATFNJ_LDR] Reminder - USATF-NJ LDR
> > > meeting tonight
> > >
> > > The next meeting for the USATF-NJ Long Distance
> > > Running Committee will
> > > be held tonight, May 2nd, 2005, at the Verizon
> > > Building – Bedminster
> > > Cafeteria at 7:30pm.
> > >
> > > Agenda items will include elections of all positions
> > > in the USATF-NJ LDR
> > > Committee; a review of the Championship races that
> > > have been held so far
> > > this year and we will take volunteers to work
> > > upcoming LDR Championships
> > > events.
> > >
> > > To suggest additional agenda items, please contact
> > > Madeline Bost at
> > > madeline.bost@a... or Pam Fales at
> > > usatfnj@u...
> > >
> > > Directions to Verizon Wireless Headquarters in
> > > Bedminster are below.
> > > Regards,
> > > Pam Fales
> > > Managing Director
> > > USATF-NJ Association
> > >  <mailto:usatfnj@u...> usatfnj@u...
> > > Phone:  973-334-8900; Fax: 973-334-8925
> > > PO Box 330
> > > Boonton, NJ  07005
> > >
> > >
> > > Directions to the LDR Meeting:
> > > From Newark and East: Take Route 78 West to Exit 29
> > > (287 North). On
> > > Route 287 North take the first exit to Route 206
> > > South (Exit 22A).  Keep
> > > going straight. Go to the second light (intersection
> > > with a Gulf and
> > > Exxon station) and turn Left.  Take second Right
> > > into the Verizon
> > > Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> > > straight ahead.
> > >
> > > From Morristown and the North: Take Route 287 South
> > > to Exit 22 (Route
> > > 206) Turn Right at the end of the ramp (the road
> > > runs one way).  Bear
> > > Right immediately onto U-Turn, make a Left at the
> > > light onto Route 206
> > > South. Turn Left at third light (intersection with a
> > > Gulf and Exxon
> > > station).  Stay in Right lane and take 2nd Right
> > > into the Verizon
> > > Wireless parking lots and go into the main building,
> > > straight ahead.
> > >
> > > From the South or from Middlesex area: Take Route
> > > 206 North or Route 287
> > > North. After exiting 287 at Exit for Route 206
> > > South, pass four traffic
> > > lights.  The entrance to the Verizon Wireless
> > > building is on your Right,
> > > about ¼ mile after you pass the Bridgewater Manor.
> > > If entrance is
> > > closed, proceed straight to the next light and turn
> > > right.  Take second
> > > Right into the Verizon Wireless parking lots and go
> > > into the main
> > > building, straight ahead.

Our own Dave Hoch

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http://www.slate.com/id/2117122/entry/2117123/?GT1=6443

-J

it has come to my attention that a high school senior female at HPHS
may become homeless. she is an emancipated teenager who has been
living with a family and pays 200$ a month rent. she has a part time
job and is planning to go to college in sept. i know her and she is a
very lovely young person.
i was wondering if anyone in rvrr would like to make a small donation
to help her pay her rent until the end of the school year. if you can
help in some small way, please contact me at
loisbrownklein262@... or call me at work 732 572 2400 ext. 3416.
thank you. lois
ps. she cannot qualify for any social services at this time.

hey, look, it is by one of my favorite Running Times
magazine ex-writers, Scott Douglas!

http://www.scottdouglas.biz/


--- John Grieco <johngrieco@...> wrote:
>
http://www.slate.com/id/2117122/entry/2117123/?GT1=6443
>
> -J
>
>
>
>
>

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to all of you who have responded to help one of our students - just to
say, thank you so much for your generosity. i know this young person
will truly appreciate your caring. thanks. lois
ps. again, every little bit helps.

I can give $50.00.  Can you give me an address and I
will send a check?
--- loisbrownklein262 <loisbrownklein262@...>
wrote:
> it has come to my attention that a high school
> senior female at HPHS
> may become homeless. she is an emancipated teenager
> who has been
> living with a family and pays 200$ a month rent. she
> has a part time
> job and is planning to go to college in sept. i know
> her and she is a
> very lovely young person.
> i was wondering if anyone in rvrr would like to make
> a small donation
> to help her pay her rent until the end of the school
> year. if you can
> help in some small way, please contact me at
> loisbrownklein262@... or call me at work 732
> 572 2400 ext. 3416.
> thank you. lois
> ps. she cannot qualify for any social services at
> this time.
>
>
>
>
>



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The club will be meeting at Far Hills train station, 9:00 Saturday
morning, for our annual Midland pre-run.  Brunch at Sherry and Moshe's
to follow.

To get there from the Highland Park area:

Take route 287 north to exit 22B,  Follow 202/206N, and in less than a
mile, bear right to stay on Rt 202.  Follow Rt 202 north (you'll make
a right turn at a traffic light) and just past Peapack Road you'll see
the train station on the left.

Directions from train station to Sherry and Moshe's to follow, and
we'll have some copies at the run.

Bob

Directions to Sherrie's and Moshe's house from the Far Hills Train
Station:

RT onto 202 South out of train station parking lot.
Immediately after passing Willie's Tavern on the right you will come
to a stop light.
LT at the stoplight.  This is a feeder road that will bring you onto
202/206 South.
     NOTE:  If you miss the first stop light, take a LT at second stop
light onto 202/206 South.
After one stop light on the feeder road, you will merge onto 202/206
South.
Stay in the left lane.
Pass one stop light.
Pass entrance to ramp 287 South.
Pass under 287 overpass.
Immediately after the overpass, you will come to a stoplight and a
sign for Schley Mtn. Road.
     Take a LT at this stoplight.
Stay in the left lane until you pass the first road on the right
(Robertson Road), then move into right lane.
Bear right onto Schley Mtn. Road.
RT onto Long Meadow Road.  NOTE: Long Meadow is the second road you
will see after the turn onto Schley.
First LT onto Thistle Lane.
Follow Thistle to the end.
We are at 299 Thistle Lane, last house on the left.

Parking in the cul-de-sac beside our house.  If the parking is full,
one car each may park behind our cars.  There are several parking
areas within walking distance of our house.  If parking is full,
please ask Sherrie where to park.  The association may ticket cars
that are not appropriately parked.

OK, this is crazy cool and really new - especially for all of you with
photo-enabled cell phones out there.  But it also works by simply
attaching a photo file to an email.

The idea here is for RVRR members to send photos directly to RVRR's
photo albums (hosted by http://fotki.com ).

The album is viewable at http://rvrr.fotki.com/uploads/

You email the photos to rvrr+photos@...

Here is the disclaimer:
RVRR members can email photos directly to this album! All photos in
this album are monitored and the sender is responsible for the content
of the photos they send. The photos sent to this album must be owned
by the sender and "rated G". The sender must accept that these photos
become 100% open to public viewing, saving, and printing. All profit
from photo printing goes directly to support RVRR's online community.
Do not copy or repost any of these photos without express permission
from The Raritan Valley Road Runners.

OK! - Start sending photos to rvrr+photos@...    !!

Sherrie,

Just a quick note of thanks for hosting all of us after the midland
prerun, I think I can say for everyone there we had a wonderful timme
after a perfect prerun.

Once again..... THANK YOU for a wonderful time!!!!

Cheryl

RVRR Board Meeting
Monday, May 9th, 7:00 p.m.
Allen's Store, Rt 27, Edison

Hi all,

Just to let you know I've heard it thru the grapevine that Penny's,
once re-open, will not have hours on Saturdays.  However, a small
group of us went to the Somerset Diner last Sat. and the food was
sublime.  Might I suggest that we move our post run breakfasts to the
Somerset Diner?  -Elizabeth

I'll go anywhere, as long as I can get pancakes smothered in syrup.  A man's
gotta have his pancakes....

-J

>From: "eme497" <eme497@...>
>Reply-To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [RVRR] Sat. at Somerset Diner
>Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 22:19:44 -0000
>
>Hi all,
>
>Just to let you know I've heard it thru the grapevine that Penny's,
>once re-open, will not have hours on Saturdays.  However, a small
>group of us went to the Somerset Diner last Sat. and the food was
>sublime.  Might I suggest that we move our post run breakfasts to the
>Somerset Diner?  -Elizabeth
>
>
>
>

A search yields other potentials close to our running area, for those who
may like to choose another spot:
http://www.njdiners.com/cgi-bin/listing.cgi?MIDDLESEX.

I don't recall being to any of these so I can't recommend any.

-J

>From: "John Grieco" <johngrieco@...>
>Reply-To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: RE: [RVRR] Sat. at Somerset Diner
>Date: Tue, 10 May 2005 11:40:29 +0000
>
>I'll go anywhere, as long as I can get pancakes smothered in syrup.  A
>man's
>gotta have his pancakes....
>
>-J
>
> >From: "eme497" <eme497@...>
> >Reply-To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
> >To: rvrr@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [RVRR] Sat. at Somerset Diner
> >Date: Mon, 09 May 2005 22:19:44 -0000
> >
> >Hi all,
> >
> >Just to let you know I've heard it thru the grapevine that Penny's,
> >once re-open, will not have hours on Saturdays.  However, a small
> >group of us went to the Somerset Diner last Sat. and the food was
> >sublime.  Might I suggest that we move our post run breakfasts to the
> >Somerset Diner?  -Elizabeth
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>

> Hi all,
>
> Just to let you know I've heard it thru the grapevine that Penny's,
> once re-open, will not have hours on Saturdays.  However, a small
> group of us went to the Somerset Diner last Sat. and the food was
> sublime.  Might I suggest that we move our post run breakfasts to the
> Somerset Diner?  -Elizabeth
>

We've had breakfasts there sometimes after the Saturday run before we ever
went to Penny's. I have no complaints with their food and service also.
The food is done quickly as well. The only little issue, which I hope they
fixed, was that the prices on some meals wound up slightly different than
what is shown on the menus.

Other than that, it probably is the logical place to go afterwards.

"Iron" Pete Priolo
USAT Certified Triathlon, Marathon, and Ultramarathon Coach
www.ironpete.com

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Most of you should have the latest newsletter in the mail, if you are
a member of RVRR.  It just looks so much better in color online, that
you should go read it there, either on this Yahoo! group site or at
http://rvrr.org/newsletters.htm
and you will notice that the pages do have page numbers that, for some
reason, are getting dropped by the printed version.  (To be remedied
in the next issue.)

The newsletter ran kinda late for April.  That was my own fault for
just not doing it until the beginning of May.  I spent a lot of time
updating the web site in April, so that took some time away from the
newsletter.  So, the next deadline is almost upon us, on May 20th.

Also notice the updates on the home page - pushing the Midland Picnic
that EVERYONE who is ANYONE will be attending! - and a renewed effort
to keep up with member race results for placing 1st-3rd overall or in
an age group.
http://rvrr.org/results.htm
still under catch-up construction.