Hey Skaters!!
  I am the coach for the Derby girls in Hawaii we are starting fresh and
ready to go. I have been speed skating for years so I am really need
some help on some drills to get the girls ready for derby. Any help
would be great. Thanks a million!!   Natalie

as the head coach, you're not wrong for protecting the interests of your
skaters.  yes, the
purpose of the d-o-m is to get those differences out ahead of time AND to then
work
towards compromise.  if i were you, i would call or email the head ref/captains
immediately and either come to an agreement regarding their home deviations or
simply
ask that the bout is played by the 2.1 rules, period.  is this an away bout?  if
so, yes you're
the guests, but remember that in more ways than not, it's still as much your
bout as it is
theirs.  be diplomatic but stick to your guns if you have serious issue with
something.
also remember though that if it's something that's really minor, it may be smart
to let the
small stuff slide (but make sure your girls are well-versed in the rules
variations way
beforehand).  choose your battles, but don't be afraid to stand up for your
league when
necessary.

also, make sure you schedule an in-person refs/captains meeting at some point at
least a
couple hours before the bout to go over everything again.  it may seem like an
overkill but
trust me, with so much communication happening via email these days, you'd be
surprised
about the things that get left out until you sit down and talk.  take notes
during the
meeting, and inform the skaters about any changes or clarifications.  and again,
stick to
what your gut is telling you.  if the league you're playing signed a contract
saying they'd be
playing by a certain ruleset, there's no reason you shouldn't hold them to it. 
good luck!

Sweet N. Lowdown
Dominion Derby Girls (WFTDA)
Norfolk, VA
www.myspace.com/jasminebrooke


--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, Mike Gibson <mervintheperv@...>
wrote:
>
>    This is going to have many questions built in. I maybe way off on some of
my
assumptions, I have been wrong before. I am head coach of a travel team, and
have found
out early that if you don't question rules before you get to the away bouts, you
are at the
mercy of the away team. Am I the only one who feels this way? We are not yet
WFTDA but
this is our goal. So I do realize this can create problems. With that said...
>      I have been reading over the discepancy-o-matic for our upcoming bout. I
am
uncomfortable with some of the rule sets in place for the bout. This is why the
discrepancy
o matic is sent out ahead of time, correct? So it may be looked over and to make
sure that
both teams are comfortable with the rules? Or am I wrong? Are there other coachs
out
there that have had a problem like this before? And if so, how did you handle
it? The
opposing team states in the contract that they use 2.1 WFTDA rules. In the d-o-m
I was
sent, they have differences from what is spelled out in black and white in 2.1.
I understand
that there are always different interpretations, but to out-right change the
rules!? Is this
common? Am I more of a prick than the other coachs? Do I take this game too
seriously? I
could ramble on for several more pages, but I would love to hear other
opinion's. Thanks.
-Merv the Perv
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Moody friends. Drama queens. Your life? Nope! - their life, your story.
>  Play Sims Stories at Yahoo! Games.
>

couple o' thoughts:

1) do lots of leg & core strengthening exercises (bicycles, squats, crunches, etc.) so skaters have the strength to control themselves AS they're falling -- you can test this by doing "fall on my whistle" drills to see how they react & then work individually with anyone who is not falling small enough.

2) We do the pack drill where you count off skaters (1, 2, 3, 4, etc.) and then start off in a very tight pack and fall when your number is called.  We also tell the ones that just fell that they have to sprint & get to the front of the pack, that helps ensure that no one is sneaking to the side or the back to avoid fallers.

3) I had trouble with the "fall small" rule because my knees are pretty bad.  So I try to one-knee or baseball slide, but in a way that I can immediately "tuck" after hitting the ground (thx to core & leg strengthening, again).  So I still don't necessarily "fall" compactly, but I try to get that way ASAP.  I know that's not the ideal situation, but IMO I've been doing better at not bringing other girls down with me. 

Midlife Crashes
ORG

-----Original Message-----
From: alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@yahoo.com>
To: rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:24 am
Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] falling small

are you looking for avoidness drills or falling  drills?

alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@yahoo.com> wrote:

I like to use mountian climbers, burpees, ( start standing up squat down put ypur hands on the floor shoot your legs back to a push up poistion, do a push up  bring the legs back in stand up ), and I like to have them do many get down, get up drills, when you have someone fall in a scrimage there should be a trainner there to tell them to get up quickly and to stay small, it is very difficult to fall small when you go down sometimes impossible, however by constantly reminding the skaters of the saftey factors involed with lack of body control and  teaching the skaters how to feel there bodies works wonders. If they countinue to sprawl out and take to much time getting up take them out of scrimmeging until they do a better job of it. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SKATERS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES.  

qwystn <qwystn@yahoo.com.au> wrote:

i am after some drills to help girls fall small. everyone has mastered
falling, but once we are in a scrimmage-type situation, there are some
major splats. any good drills anyone has for this??? i am thinking
maybe we need to practice jumping/hopping, and also making sure we are
paying attention and down low enough, so we can a)avoid someone if
they fall in front of us, and b)be in the right position to be able to
brace for a hit??

thanks!!!

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Do you skate at a rink? Our skating rink coaches entry level (people
with no skating skills at all) Boot Camp for us that's just the
basics: T Stops, skating form, etc...

The rink gets $10/person for it, and we get the benefit of pulling
trained skaters from that group anytime we need someone to come up.
Most skating rinks have people there who know all the basics and would
happy for the extra cash! I love sharing this because it felt like
such a load off not to have to keep re-teaching all the basics all the
time.

*Bonnie*


--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Hooah! Girl"
<hooahgrrl@...> wrote:
>
> thnx!
>
> I guess I should have clarified a bit better - we have a group of
potential
> recruits - "Minor Meats"  not even Freshies, who are not on the
league.  We
> hold practice sessions for them - to get them ready for assestments
and then
> tryouts.  The goal is to try and get them up to speed, ensure they are
> committed to derby, before even trying out for the league.  The
drills would
> be for those skaters.
>
> We also have fresh meat skaters in the league who come to all league
> practices and we are cognizant of their skill level.
>
> thnx for the tips on the drills in the files section  - should have went
> there first  :)
>
>
>
> On 9/27/07, T.Rex Ya Face <digitalis058@...> wrote:
> >
> >   when we get new freah meat in-we seperate them form the
> > vets...duh..but just for the night..(they tend to try harder when
> > they are skating with vets) and i teach them all the falls, t-stops,
> > crossovers and stepping.oh yeah and DERBY POSITION! :) i know that
> > in the files section of this group there are a lot of drills you
> > could use.. I have just recently been added to our leagues coaching
> > committee in april and if it wasn't for the files section on this
> > board i would have been struggling. Go check it out...:) Hope all
> > goes well!
> > T.Rex Ya Face
> > Dominion Derby Girls(WFTDA)
> > --- In
rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com<rollerderbycoaches%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Hooah! Girl"
> > <hooahgrrl@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi there - and if you could share some Fresh Meat drills with me,
> > that would
> > > be awesome!
> > > I normally run some league practices - but will start running some
> > freshmeat
> > > sessions as well.
> > > Our FMs experience level run anywhere from really low to good.
> > The sessions
> > > run for about an hour and 1/2.
> > > so - any FM drills you can send my way would be greatly
> > appreciated!
> > > Hooah!Girl
> > > DC Rollergirls
> > >
> > >
> > > On 9/27/07, chiriffraff666 <chicagoriffraff@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > hello all. im still in search for some new drills. especially
> > pack
> > > > work, and blocking drills and drills that get the girls working
> > together.
> > > >
> > > > please, if anyone can share some drills i would REALLY
> > appreciate it.
> > > >
> > > > thanks.
> > > >
> > > > <3 althea n. hell
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Hooah!Girl
> > > aka Diana
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Hooah!Girl
> aka Diana
>

when we get new freah meat in-we seperate them form the
vets...duh..but just for the night..(they tend to try harder when
they are skating with vets) and i teach them all the falls, t-stops,
crossovers and stepping.oh yeah and DERBY POSITION! :) i know that
in the files section of this group there are a lot of drills you
could use.. I have just recently been added to our leagues coaching
committee in april and if it wasn't for the files section on this
board i would have been struggling. Go check it out...:) Hope all
goes well!
T.Rex Ya Face
Dominion Derby Girls(WFTDA)
--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Hooah! Girl"
<hooahgrrl@...> wrote:
>
> Hi there - and if you could share some Fresh Meat drills with me,
that would
> be awesome!
> I normally run some league practices - but will start running some
freshmeat
> sessions as well.
> Our FMs experience level run anywhere from really low to good.
The sessions
> run for about an hour and 1/2.
> so - any FM drills you can send my way would be greatly
appreciated!
> Hooah!Girl
> DC Rollergirls
>
>
> On 9/27/07, chiriffraff666 <chicagoriffraff@...> wrote:
> >
> >   hello all. im still in search for some new drills. especially
pack
> > work, and blocking drills and drills that get the girls working
together.
> >
> > please, if anyone can share some drills i would REALLY
appreciate it.
> >
> > thanks.
> >
> > <3 althea n. hell
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Hooah!Girl
> aka Diana
>

hello all. im still in search for some new drills. especially pack
work, and blocking drills and drills that get the girls working together.

please, if anyone can share some drills i would REALLY appreciate it.

thanks.

<3 althea n. hell

Yeah, the focus is banked track, but this stuff all crosses over
nicely on flat track, too. Pretty basic stuff, but if it helps anybody
out, awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2DsKAJASN90

lovelovelove,
*Bonnie D.Stroir*
San Diego Derby Dolls

Hi RoadBlock. You're really touching on at least 3 different issues here:

1) Team vs. League
2) Bouting freshies - safety issues
3) Fan interest - keeping the games close

I would say WFTDA roster guidelines aren't relevant, since they only
apply to WFTDA (nationally ranked) bouts between travel teams. Anyone
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that's my understanding.

1) The league should always come first. This sport is too new and has
too small of a toehold in most every city not to have the success of
the league as the number one priority. It's nice to be the number one
team in your league and the more intense the competition the better
the fans enjoy the bouts, but you really have to always make sure the
health of the league is a higher priority than whether or nor your
team wins. Without the league you have no team. :)

2) As was mentioned by someone else the chance of injury rockets up
when players are bouting that aren't completely ready. Not only for
the freshies, but as much or more for the experienced players. It
certainly doesn't help league moral when a freshie takes out one of
your top players in a bout and she can't play for the next few months.
The fans aren't too crazy about it either.

3) Finally, one of the most important things for your league is to
have well balanced, competitive teams. Whatever it takes, whether
it's a borrowing procedure if your rosters are short, or an annual
draft practice that gives the lower ranked teams the better new
players or even allows for some team-hopping to even things out. If
the teams aren't well matched the fans will quickly get bored, ticket
sales will drop and it's gonna be hard to even afford to practice a
couple times a week.

Doc Holiday
Rose City Rollers

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...> wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

Hi RoadBlock.  You're really touching on at least 3 different issues here:

1) Team vs. League
2) Bouting freshies - safety issues
3) Fan interest - keeping the games close

I would say WFTDA roster guidelines aren't relevant, since they only
apply to WFTDA (nationally ranked) bouts between travel teams.  Anyone
feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, that's my understanding.

1) The league should always come first.  This sport is too new and has
too small of a toehold in most every city not to have the success of
the league as the number one priority.  It's nice to be the number one
team in your league and the more intense the competition the better
the fans enjoy the bouts, but you really have to always make sure the
health of the league is a higher priority than whether or nor your
team wins.  Without the league you have no team.  :)

2) As was mentioned by someone else the chance of injury rockets up
when players are bouting that aren't completely ready.  Not only for
the freshies, but as much or more for the experienced players.  It
certainly doesn't help league moral when a freshie takes out one of
your top players in a bout and she can't play for the next few months.
  The fans aren't too crazy about it either.

3) Finally, one of the most important things for your league is to
have well balanced, competitive teams.  Whatever it takes, whether
it's a borrowing procedure if your rosters are short, or an annual
draft practice that gives the lower ranked teams the better new
players or even allows for some team-hopping to even things out.  If
the teams aren't well matched the fans will quickly get bored, ticket
sales will drop and it's gonna be hard to even afford to practice a
couple times a week.


Doc Holiday
Rose City Rollers



--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...> wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

Hi Road Block,

Borrowing girls from other teams to fill the roster is pretty common.
  We had to do it in our first season.  I don't care for the practice,
but only because it makes for a very confusing situation to the fans.

If I were you, as a new coach, I would not call any existing practice
"ignorant".  Especially bouting experienced skaters over noobs.

Experienced skaters can handle themselves and there's a chance they'll
get hurt. But there's a chance we'll hurt ourselves walking down the
stairs. We're derby girls, we do stupid shit.

The injury factor raises exponentially if you bout new skaters who
aren't ready.  Sadly, in the two leagues I've skated for we've made
this mistake.

I hope you don't.

good luck.

Ms. D'fiant
ACDG Gaming Commissioner





--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...> wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

Hi Roadblock,

As you can see from the recent 'Borrowing Skaters...' thread on Rollergirls,
this is an issue
open to much interpretation.  Right now my understanding is that per WFTDA teams
have
to have rosters in officially 4 weeks before the bout.  It's up to the
individual leagues and
teams to decide policies beyond that.  If you aren't WFTDA yet (or in leagues
that don't
plan to be), even the four weeks thing is negotiable, and often new leagues put
the roster
deadline much closer.

Right now the best thing is to really communicate with everyone involved on your
league,
come to a decision, and work within that framework.  You have good points, and
the
reasoning behind the current borrowing policy probably has some as well (giving
girls
more bouting exposure, ensuring there are enough players who have passed basic
skills).

Best of luck with it, these are tough issues.

Cheers,
Helen Fury




--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...>
wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

Thank you all for the responses. I guess that this is common practice
in roller derby. Honestly, I was a little flabergasted by that. I
have been involved in team sports my whole life and have never faced
that type of thing before. From little league football all the way up
to semi-pro. It's not about strategy secrets so much as team
integrity to me. But, as I said, I am fairly new to this sport, so I
am thankful for all of your inputs. This forum has been a big help in
getting my team to become a force in our league. If we win one more
game this year, we will skate in the league championship. I plan on
picking all your brains whenever I need to.

Coach RoadBlock
ICTeasers
ICT Rollergirls




--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...> wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are
nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on
becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In
our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one
of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing
policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have
as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either
back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.

Coach RoadBlock
ICTeasers
ICT Rollergirls

Our WFTDA certified league has had teams borrow players from other
teams for bouts.  Based on our research, it's not an uncommon
practice.  I know that the league in Philadelphia does it when
necessary, for example.  Some captains do see it as an extra risk for
their skaters to bout for another team.  I, on the other hand, see it
as a great opportunity to skate more, with different people, and gain
valuable bouting experience.

The thing to keep in mind is that you have to keep your LEAGUE a
priority, not just your team.  Without a league, you ain't got no
team.  And without bouts with paying spectators, you won't have a
league for long.  Work on ways to get more skaters on each team so
that you eventually won't need to have a skater borrowing policy.  But
in the meantime, have teams help each other out with skaters (and
everything else!) for the benefit of the spectators and the league.

The Crippler
Steel City Derby Demons

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "duelingboxerman"
<duelingboxerman@...> wrote:
>
> I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
> the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
> WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
> league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
> rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
> the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
> month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
> ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
> would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
> girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
> totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
> oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
> many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
> me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.
>
>
>
> Coach RoadBlock
> ICTeasers
> ICT Rollergirls
>

I am with the ICT Rollergirls League out of Wichita, KS. We are nearing
the end of our first full year as a league and are working on becoming
WFTDA certified. I have a question regarding borrowing players. In our
league, instead of filling injury inflicted or ineligble skaters
rosters from the newbie pool, we are allowed to "borrow" from one of
the two other teams in the league(whichever one isn't bouting that
month) to skate for us. Is it just me, or does that seem completely
ignorant. Does Anybody else use this type of player borrowing policy? I
would think that it would be detrimental to the team loaning their
girls out, subjecting them to unnecessary chance for injury and be
totally advantageous to the team borrowing.I am a new coach, so my
oppinion is not very highly regarded yet, and I would like to have as
many oppinions as possible from WFTDA teams as I can get to either back
me up, or support the current system. Thank you in advance.



Coach RoadBlock
ICTeasers
ICT Rollergirls

Due to a misunderstanding (geometry not being our strongest subject),
we started training this one as a 360 degree turn fall.  Which is
more like what happens in a bout - spinning out and having to get up
again.  The 180 is very useful for suicide drills but not so much in
actual play.  Doing either of them teaches you how to control a fall
so you end up in a position to get going again quickly.
G-Force!! #9.8 m/s/s
Toronto Roller Derby

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, Micki Lamoureux
<mickimercury@...> wrote:
>
>
> I see as beneficial to gain control if you need to fall fast. I
personaly never have used it in a game, only when I had to fall fast
outdoors skating down a hill for example.
> Micki Mercury #007
> Terminal City Rollergirls.com
>
>
> To: rollerderbycoaches@...: quadtrolibre@...: Sat, 22 Sep 2007
18:15:59 -0700Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] 180 degree turn fall
>
>
>
>
> there are many times in a bout where a skater will be knocked down
and spun out. There are also times where you have to take a knee to
keep from injuring a fan so you have to turn around to get back in
the action. It also helps you learn how to set yourself up before you
come to a complete stop and try to get up quicker by  getting the toe
stop down and planted, just a few reasons I can think of off the top
of my head give it time I am sure you will hear more from other
skaters shortly.Nevada <nevada_kennedy@...> wrote:
>
>
> I was wondering if anyone could give advice on how to do the "180
degree turn single knee fall" that's listed on the WFTDA min skills
requirements. If it's what I'm imagining, then I don't see why it's
beneficial. Why would you ever want to face in the opposite
direction?
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To: rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com
From: quadtrolibre@...
Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2007 18:15:59 -0700
Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] 180 degree turn fall

there are many times in a bout where a skater will be knocked down and spun out. There are also times where you have to take a knee to keep from injuring a fan so you have to turn around to get back in the action. It also helps you learn how to set yourself up before you come to a complete stop and try to get up quicker by  getting the toe stop down and planted, just a few reasons I can think of off the top of my head give it time I am sure you will hear more from other skaters shortly.

Nevada <nevada_kennedy@hotmail.com> wrote:

I was wondering if anyone could give advice on how to do the "180
degree turn single knee fall" that's listed on the WFTDA min skills
requirements. If it's what I'm imagining, then I don't see why it's
beneficial. Why would you ever want to face in the opposite direction?

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I was wondering if anyone could give advice on how to do the "180
degree turn single knee fall" that's listed on the WFTDA min skills
requirements. If it's what I'm imagining, then I don't see why it's
beneficial. Why would you ever want to face in the opposite direction?

I was wondering if anyone could give advice on how to do the "180
degree turn single knee fall" that's listed on the WFTDA min skills
requirements.  If it's what I'm imagining, then I don't see why it's
beneficial.  Why would you ever want to face in the opposite direction?

oh no you dont mamma t!!!
apparently the aussie army has actually banned these from their
training regime, since it was discovered that they can seriously
injure your lower back.
i strongly suggest you pick another exercise.

Cherry Rockette
VRDL
Aussieland

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Jude Tsai"
<judetsai73@...> wrote:
>
> Burpees!!! I haven't heard that for at least twenty years...
>
> I'm putting this on our Training Do's for sure!
>
> Thanks!
>
> --- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Justice"
> <servinjustice@> wrote:
> >
> > Did I really just read about burpees?  Omg... I did them in grade
> > school in gym class, and earlier this season I was thinking of
> > bringing them to the wonderful world of practices for good core
> > strengthening, as well as, working on quick recovery.  I should
> > listen to myself more often!
> >
> > Servin' Justice
> > Brewcity Bruisers
> >
> > --- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, Mdejarlais@ wrote:
> > >
> > > couple o'?thoughts:
> > >
> > > 1) do lots of leg & core strengthening exercises (bicycles,
> squats,
> > crunches, etc.) so skaters have the strength to control themselves
> AS
> > they're falling -- you can test this by doing "fall on my whistle"
> > drills to see how they react & then work individually with anyone
> who
> > is not falling small enough.
> > >
> > > 2) We do the pack drill where you count off skaters (1, 2, 3, 4,
> > etc.) and then start off in a very tight pack and fall when your
> > number is called.? We also tell the ones that just fell that they
> > have to sprint & get to the front of the pack, that helps ensure
> that
> > no one is sneaking to the side or the back to avoid fallers.
> > >
> > > 3) I had trouble with?the "fall small" rule because my knees are
> > pretty bad.? So I try to one-knee or baseball slide, but in a way
> > that I can immediately "tuck" after hitting the ground (thx to core
> &
> > leg strengthening, again).? So I still don't necessarily "fall"
> > compactly, but I try to get that way ASAP.? I know that's not the
> > ideal situation, but IMO I've been doing better at not bringing
> other
> > girls down with me.?
> > >
> > > Midlife Crashes
> > > ORG
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@>
> > > To: rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:24 am
> > > Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] falling small
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > are you looking for avoidness drills or falling? drills?
> > >
> > > alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I like to use mountian climbers, burpees, ( start standing up
> squat
> > down put ypur hands on the floor shoot your legs back?to a push up
> > poistion, do a push up? bring the legs back in stand up ),?and I
> like
> > to have them do many get down, get up drills, when you have someone
> > fall in a scrimage there should be a trainner there to tell them to
> > get up quickly and to stay small, it is very difficult to fall
> small
> > when you go down sometimes impossible, however by constantly
> > reminding the skaters of the saftey factors involed with lack of
> body
> > control and??teaching the skaters how to feel there bodies works?
> > wonders. If they countinue to sprawl out and take to much time
> > getting up take them out of scrimmeging until they do a better job
> of
> > it. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SKATERS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES. ?
> > >
> > > qwystn <qwystn@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > i am after some drills to help girls fall small. everyone has
> > mastered
> > > falling, but once we are in a scrimmage-type situation, there are
> > some
> > > major splats. any good drills anyone has for this??? i am thinking
> > > maybe we need to practice jumping/hopping, and also making sure
> we
> > are
> > > paying attention and down low enough, so we can a)avoid someone if
> > > they fall in front of us, and b)be in the right position to be
> able
> > to
> > > brace for a hit??
> > >
> > > thanks!!!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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Burpees!!! I haven't heard that for at least twenty years...

I'm putting this on our Training Do's for sure!

Thanks!

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Justice"
<servinjustice@...> wrote:
>
> Did I really just read about burpees? Omg... I did them in grade
> school in gym class, and earlier this season I was thinking of
> bringing them to the wonderful world of practices for good core
> strengthening, as well as, working on quick recovery. I should
> listen to myself more often!
>
> Servin' Justice
> Brewcity Bruisers
>
> --- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, Mdejarlais@ wrote:
> >
> > couple o'?thoughts:
> >
> > 1) do lots of leg & core strengthening exercises (bicycles,
squats,
> crunches, etc.) so skaters have the strength to control themselves
AS
> they're falling -- you can test this by doing "fall on my whistle"
> drills to see how they react & then work individually with anyone
who
> is not falling small enough.
> >
> > 2) We do the pack drill where you count off skaters (1, 2, 3, 4,
> etc.) and then start off in a very tight pack and fall when your
> number is called.? We also tell the ones that just fell that they
> have to sprint & get to the front of the pack, that helps ensure
that
> no one is sneaking to the side or the back to avoid fallers.
> >
> > 3) I had trouble with?the "fall small" rule because my knees are
> pretty bad.? So I try to one-knee or baseball slide, but in a way
> that I can immediately "tuck" after hitting the ground (thx to core
&
> leg strengthening, again).? So I still don't necessarily "fall"
> compactly, but I try to get that way ASAP.? I know that's not the
> ideal situation, but IMO I've been doing better at not bringing
other
> girls down with me.?
> >
> > Midlife Crashes
> > ORG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@>
> > To: rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:24 am
> > Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] falling small
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > are you looking for avoidness drills or falling? drills?
> >
> > alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I like to use mountian climbers, burpees, ( start standing up
squat
> down put ypur hands on the floor shoot your legs back?to a push up
> poistion, do a push up? bring the legs back in stand up ),?and I
like
> to have them do many get down, get up drills, when you have someone
> fall in a scrimage there should be a trainner there to tell them to
> get up quickly and to stay small, it is very difficult to fall
small
> when you go down sometimes impossible, however by constantly
> reminding the skaters of the saftey factors involed with lack of
body
> control and??teaching the skaters how to feel there bodies works?
> wonders. If they countinue to sprawl out and take to much time
> getting up take them out of scrimmeging until they do a better job
of
> it. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SKATERS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES. ?
> >
> > qwystn <qwystn@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > i am after some drills to help girls fall small. everyone has
> mastered
> > falling, but once we are in a scrimmage-type situation, there are
> some
> > major splats. any good drills anyone has for this??? i am thinking
> > maybe we need to practice jumping/hopping, and also making sure
we
> are
> > paying attention and down low enough, so we can a)avoid someone if
> > they fall in front of us, and b)be in the right position to be
able
> to
> > brace for a hit??
> >
> > thanks!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the
> hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> user panel and lay it on us.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Burpees!!! I haven't heard that for at least twenty years...

I'm putting this on our Training Do's for sure!

Thanks!

--- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, "Justice"
<servinjustice@...> wrote:
>
> Did I really just read about burpees?  Omg... I did them in grade
> school in gym class, and earlier this season I was thinking of
> bringing them to the wonderful world of practices for good core
> strengthening, as well as, working on quick recovery.  I should
> listen to myself more often!
>
> Servin' Justice
> Brewcity Bruisers
>
> --- In rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com, Mdejarlais@ wrote:
> >
> > couple o'?thoughts:
> >
> > 1) do lots of leg & core strengthening exercises (bicycles,
squats,
> crunches, etc.) so skaters have the strength to control themselves
AS
> they're falling -- you can test this by doing "fall on my whistle"
> drills to see how they react & then work individually with anyone
who
> is not falling small enough.
> >
> > 2) We do the pack drill where you count off skaters (1, 2, 3, 4,
> etc.) and then start off in a very tight pack and fall when your
> number is called.? We also tell the ones that just fell that they
> have to sprint & get to the front of the pack, that helps ensure
that
> no one is sneaking to the side or the back to avoid fallers.
> >
> > 3) I had trouble with?the "fall small" rule because my knees are
> pretty bad.? So I try to one-knee or baseball slide, but in a way
> that I can immediately "tuck" after hitting the ground (thx to core
&
> leg strengthening, again).? So I still don't necessarily "fall"
> compactly, but I try to get that way ASAP.? I know that's not the
> ideal situation, but IMO I've been doing better at not bringing
other
> girls down with me.?
> >
> > Midlife Crashes
> > ORG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@>
> > To: rollerderbycoaches@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 9:24 am
> > Subject: Re: [rollerderbycoaches] falling small
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > are you looking for avoidness drills or falling? drills?
> >
> > alan van hoever <quadtrolibre@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I like to use mountian climbers, burpees, ( start standing up
squat
> down put ypur hands on the floor shoot your legs back?to a push up
> poistion, do a push up? bring the legs back in stand up ),?and I
like
> to have them do many get down, get up drills, when you have someone
> fall in a scrimage there should be a trainner there to tell them to
> get up quickly and to stay small, it is very difficult to fall
small
> when you go down sometimes impossible, however by constantly
> reminding the skaters of the saftey factors involed with lack of
body
> control and??teaching the skaters how to feel there bodies works?
> wonders. If they countinue to sprawl out and take to much time
> getting up take them out of scrimmeging until they do a better job
of
> it. YOU HAVE TO KEEP THE SKATERS AS SAFE AS POSSIBLE AT ALL TIMES. ?
> >
> > qwystn <qwystn@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > i am after some drills to help girls fall small. everyone has
> mastered
> > falling, but once we are in a scrimmage-type situation, there are
> some
> > major splats. any good drills anyone has for this??? i am thinking
> > maybe we need to practice jumping/hopping, and also making sure
we
> are
> > paying attention and down low enough, so we can a)avoid someone if
> > they fall in front of us, and b)be in the right position to be
able
> to
> > brace for a hit??
> >
> > thanks!!!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Tonight's top picks. What will you watch tonight? Preview the
> hottest shows on Yahoo! TV.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s
> user panel and lay it on us.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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