Still decent amount of snow on protected trails as of noon today, and it is now
snowing light to medium. I skied on some of the little used trails and found
plenty of untrampled snow to use. The ground is not completely frozen in the
wetter areas, so swampy areas are best avoided.
Gary

>
>
I skied the water tower area of Mendon late this morning and early this
afternoon.  It was skiable, but not with much to spare, and a few
windblown places were almost completely bare...Definitely still best to
bring your rock skis.

Joel

Skied a bunch of trails today. Main road is covered with ice under (only notice
it with the pole). Big Oak is very nice, wet spots were frozen. Spruce is well
covered.
gr

Get out the rock skis!!

Vacation time and snow has arrived! Got 3" of dense powder here in Powder Mills
Park. The open areas should be decent as well as the more open woods (pine
areas, not so good yet!).

Check out the new easy to use list of links to area snow reports on the
Rochester Nordic Ski Club Home Page!
www.rochesternordic.org




Bristol Mountain reports only 1" of new snow in the past 24 hr, so HH may not
have got any.

Byrncliff reports 3" new snow

This guy reports 8-10" new; but doesn't say where he is located. I think it is
Allegehney area.
http://cid-4350fb903e2a6677.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!4350FB903E2A6677!4810.entry

or try here if the above is goofy;
http://proofiwashere.spaces.live.com/

I walked my dog around  Mendon Ponds today (green trail near the office) There
was one set of ski tracks where a die hard had sacrificed some of his ski bases
to the stone gods. Perhaps 50% of the trails had snow cover (had been rolled by
the county), with an occasion, tempting pocket of actual cover.
Kudos to the Rochester XC Ski Foundation; the improvements to the trails were
noticeable (wider, flatter!) Be sure to support them! Join up and send money to;
http://www.xcrochester.com/new/home.htm#

Trails at Powder Mills Park  (www.powdermillspark.com) were similarly low on
snow cover, but mostly with leaves underneath. I sacrificed a bit of Ptex here
on Friday.
Gary

The XC foundation website is back up and has snow reports! It has one On
HH from today which says;
Time/Date/Source of Report:  10:17:24 AM  12/18/2009  Fred the Groomer
Base Depth:  Trails: 4-6 inches  Woods: 8 inches
Surface Condition:  P powder /hardpack
Grooming Status:  Classic: 0 KM  Skate: 10+ KM  Total Available: KM
Snow/Grooming Comments:  No grooming today. Probably groom tomorrow.
Very Good Skating conditions. Good base for new snow. Thanks to Suburban
Disposal for equipment storage
Events/Information:  Use the left side of road. Base is much better for
skiing. Rest of road has ice under cover. Will groom on Friday/
dependent on snow of course. Think snow!

Link is;
http://www.xcrochester.com/new/conditions.htm#




alan c wrote:
>
>
> Did "Spencer" get anymore snow this week.  I was thinking about
> bushwacking some on my snow shoes on Saturday.  I know HHS /*was*/ cool
> for dogs off the XC trails.  Is that still the case?  //ac
> --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "GaryR" <greif1@...> wrote:

I skied Byrncliff today, and it was good for early season. There were a
few muddy spots, and the trails were mostly groomed for skate. The snow
was soft and thin in a few places.
http://www.byrncliff.com/winter/crosscountry.php
-Erik

matt wrote:
>
> Sure would like to get out tomorrow.. and looking for best bet for
> snow cover?
>
> --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:rochesterxc%40yahoogroups.com>, "David" <dlentz10@...> wrote:
> >
> > This looks like lake effect, Lake Erie vesion. I think Genesee
> County Park and Forest, Bethany should get hit. However I the snows to
> reach into Monroe County. I think the southwest parks, Black Creek and
> Oatka should be in play.
> >
> > Black Creek work with about four inches of snow. I think I'd avoid
> the wet portions, the Swamp (yelllow) and the portion of the Creek
> (red) which has the by pass.
> >
> > Oatka might be more in the best and does not have the swampy
> portions that Black Creek does. I'd stay south of the creek and all
> the county trails save the Orange and Yellow are wide mowed paths.
> >
> > David
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: SteveG
> > To: rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com <mailto:rochesterxc%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:38 PM
> > Subject: [rochesterxc] Re: Snow here?
> >
> >
> >
> > Not enough in Penfield yet. But the Tug Hill?
> >
> > http://www.northernchateau.com/webcam.html
> <http://www.northernchateau.com/webcam.html>
> >
> > --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:rochesterxc%40yahoogroups.com>, "GaryR" <greif1@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hmmmmm..... looks like the ground is kind of frozen and snow is to
> the West of us. Anybody know if Genesee Forest has a decent amount of
> snow yet?
> > > gr
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> 12/10/09 07:36:00
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>
>

Was down in the area this AM; did not ski, but others were. 4-6" on some kind of
base... very pretty and looked pretty skiable.

Was hiking around "Sky Acres" (the Conservancy property over bu Reynolds
Gully)... it is even prettier! Good snowshoe venue now, if we can clear up
blowdown, will be a good classic venue. Lots of logging trails there!
gr

Sure would like to get out tomorrow.. and looking for best bet for snow cover?

--- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "David" <dlentz10@...> wrote:
>
> This looks like lake effect, Lake Erie vesion.   I think Genesee County Park
and Forest, Bethany should get hit. However I the snows to reach into Monroe
County.   I think the southwest parks, Black Creek and Oatka should be in play.
>
> Black Creek work with about four inches of snow.  I think I'd avoid the wet
portions, the Swamp (yelllow) and the portion of the Creek (red) which has the
by pass.
>
> Oatka might be more in the best and does not have the swampy portions that
Black Creek does.  I'd stay south of the creek and all the county trails save
the Orange and Yellow are wide mowed paths.
>
> David
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: SteveG
>   To: rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com
>   Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:38 PM
>   Subject: [rochesterxc] Re: Snow here?
>
>
>
>   Not enough in Penfield yet. But the Tug Hill?
>
>   http://www.northernchateau.com/webcam.html
>
>   --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "GaryR" <greif1@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Hmmmmm..... looks like the ground is kind of frozen and snow is to the
West of us. Anybody know if Genesee Forest has a decent amount of snow yet?
>   > gr
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
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07:36:00
>

----- Original Message -----

From: SteveG

To: rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 3:38 PM

Subject: [rochesterxc] Re: Snow here?

 

Not enough in Penfield yet. But the Tug Hill?

http://www.northernchateau.com/webcam.html

--- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "GaryR" <greif1@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmmm..... looks like the ground is kind of frozen and snow is to the West of us. Anybody know if Genesee Forest has a decent amount of snow yet?
> gr
>

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Not enough in Penfield yet. But the Tug Hill?

http://www.northernchateau.com/webcam.html


--- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "GaryR" <greif1@...> wrote:
>
> Hmmmmm..... looks like the ground is kind of frozen and snow is to the West of
us. Anybody know if Genesee Forest has a decent amount of snow yet?
> gr
>

Hmmmmm..... looks like the ground is kind of frozen and snow is to the West of
us. Anybody know if Genesee Forest has a decent amount of snow yet?
gr

It is my understanding that the homeowner has blocked the trail, but it
is on county or Pittsford property. Check the Monroe County GIS website
for property lines. (parcel viewer) http://www.mappingmonroe.org/mpv/

gr



alan c wrote:
>
> Does anybody know what the plans for the northern segment of the
> Auburn Trail is, as it hits the Erie Canal? They have improved a small
> segment with a small parking area on Knickerbocker. Heading south the
> trail is blocked by a homeowner who's house borders the trail.
>
>

Does anybody know what the plans for the northern segment of the Auburn Trail
is, as it hits the Erie Canal?  They have improved a small segment with a small
parking area on Knickerbocker.  Heading south the trail is blocked by a
homeowner who's house borders the trail.

From a Usenet post 11-29-09

The Windblown cross-country area in New Ipswich, New Hampshire is the
target of an ambitious new non-profit organization.

Last season, Windblown owner Al Jenks announced his plans to retire
after 38 seasons and sell the ski touring center to a non-profit
organization.  The non-profit, called Central New England Nordic
Council, now has a Web site at http://cnencxc.org .  They are taking
pledges now, and, once they have obtained tax exempt status, will take
money.  The site does not seem to mention their fundraising goal, but
it says that their deadline is March 31, 2011.

I happened to run into Al a couple of weeks ago and he told me he will
still be running Windblown for the upcoming 2009-2010 season.  (But
last year the shop sold off their rental equipment and other retail
goods.)

The CNENC site has an ambitious master plan (
http://nordicnow.org/images/Windblown_Master_Plan.pdf ), including not
just buying the ski area, but developing a race course (mostly, but
not entirely, on existing trails) and "stadium", putting in snowmaking
and lighting and perhaps a biathlon range.

They are having an informational meeting on December 2 at the Weston
Ski Track.

Bob from the Rochester XC Ski Foundation reports the following:
(please support the RXCSF! Donations can be made at:
http://www.skireg.com/events/register.asp?EventID=3036

------------------------------------------------------------------

Quick note...Fred just called and based on conversation with Jason at NYS Parks,
he and Tom B have started work on the snowmobile trail to parallel Upper Spruce,
eliminating the need to share/close the section of Spruce recently included into
the snowmobile trail.  This is great news!  Thanks to all who helped with this
including attending the meeting in Canadice.

Fred will inquire if Tom and Jason need any volunteer help to finish the trail.

Fred also mentioned that Tom is working to get a stump grinder on-site to take
out a few problem stumps on the ski trails.

Finally, Fred is working to repair the old YTS Roller that he uses to pack the
trails prior to finish grooming.  The outer plastic section of the roller is
shot and requires replacement.  He is putting together a list of options to do
this...all will require at least some expenditure.  Apologies that we didn't
have this ready for the BOD meeting.  We will forward the options to all before
deciding and proceeding.

Bob

Reminder: Trail clean up day at Mendon Ponds...  come and help make trails even
better!



Roch. XC Ski Foundations Members:

Please grab your work gloves and clippers and join your friends in the trail
clean up at Mendon Ponds Park this Saturday!

We're meeting at 1pm at the Park Office on Douglas Road.  May have to park at
the Beach and walk up...or park on side of road.

Label and bring branch clippers, small pruning saws, and perhaps rakes and
shovels to help spread mulch and for minor trail profile fixes.  Wear layers,
work gloves, etc.

Stay for as long or as short a time as you can fit.   These are the very trails
we'll be skiing on in a matter of weeks; let's prep them well!

Many thanks,
Ann Mangan
RXC Ski Foundation

Nothing natural that I am aware of. Poke around at this link.

http://www.timefortuckerman.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=11

--- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "femike99" <femike99@...> wrote:
>
> Hey,does anyone know if there's any snow within, say, 6 hours drive?  Vacation
policy changes are causing me need to take vacation next week.  So, I was
thinking of a quick road trip.
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
> Mike V
>

Hey,does anyone know if there's any snow within, say, 6 hours drive?  Vacation
policy changes are causing me need to take vacation next week.  So, I was
thinking of a quick road trip.

Thanks in advance.

Mike V

I see confirmation in a D&C listing:

The 16th annual HFL Nordic Ski Swap and Sale is 9 a.m. to 2 p.m. Nov. 21 at
Honeoye Falls-Lima Middle School. Bring used gear to sell on consignment from 7
to 8:30 p.m. on Nov. 20. Proceeds benefit area youth and high school programs.
Call (585) 624-7805.

gr

Short Hike:  Nov. 14, 2009 Saturday 10am
Rochester Nordic Ski Club Hike, Lead by Gary Reif,
Meet at Hitching Post Plaza (opposite Abbotts Custard, Bushnell's
Basin, Rt.96 (Rochester, NY area)) 10am.

Park and meet across the street in the large Hitching Post Plaza (Rite-Aid, Tom
Wahls, etc) parking lot.

Hike conveniently starts and ends at Abbotts Custard and Finger Lakes Coffee.
Hike and check out a skiable trail next to a pretty creek
and small waterfall. There and back is 2-3 miles.
Trails are dog friendly, but poison ivy is in the
area (where isn't it!).

Anyone here of a date?

Mike V

For those of you who haven't read the recent Roch Nordic Ski Club newsletter
(can be seen at www.rochesternordic.org), I am happy to pass along the news that
the Rochester XC Ski Foundation has successfully arranged trail grooming to be
in place for the 2009-2010 season in both Mendon Ponds Park and Harriet
Hollister Rec Area.

Thanks to all who made this happen!
gr

Come to the Rochester Nordic Ski Club Meeting!!
Thursday, Nov. 5, 2009,  7:00pm

I will be talking and showing lots and lots of pictures of my recent trip to
Oregon.

Among other things I will talk about;
Voodoo Donuts
An old growth forest that starts at the parking lot (saves on tedious
back-country hiking!)
Columbia River valley, with more hiking and waterfalls than you could shake a
stick at.
Mt. Hood, Skiing in August
Timberline Lodge, wonderful craftsmanship from stonework to furniture all hand
made.

As a bonus there will be 2 selected short films;

Goofy Goes Skiing

and

Cross-country Snowboarding  (you gotta come to find out what this is about!)

See you there!, Gary

Meeting Location:
Carmen Clark Lodge, Brighton Town Park
777 Westfall Rd.
Haudenosaunee Trail (the name of the road)
(~1/4 mile West of Clinton Avenue off of Westfall Road south side)
(A smoke-free, alcohol-free environment)

Here are some folks that swap info and techniques on trail grooming;

Snow grooming message board
http://s8.zetaboards.com/snowgroomingtalk/index/

Many links; equipment etc.
http://www.snowgroominglinks.com/

Yahoo group for Winter_trail_groomers
Most seem to be Tug Hill Syracuse area
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/winter_trail_groomers/

gr

Thursday, Nov.5 , 2009 Meeting 7:00 PM
Presentation; A trip to Oregon.
Gary Reif will show and tell us about his trip this past August to Portland
Oregon,
-an old growth forest on the Pacific ocean (NOT sequoias!),
-waterfalls and hiking in the Columbia River Gorge,
-the beautiful craftsmanship of Timberline Lodge on Mt. Hood (built and
furnished from local materials in 1935!),
-all summer skiing on Mt. Hood.
-plus (if all goes well); short films (Goofy Goes Skiing, and Cross-Country
Snowboarding)

As usual at these meetings, snacking, ski tales, (tall and standard) equipment
chit-chat, and assorted camaraderie will also occur.
Meeting Location:
Carmen Clark Lodge, Brighton Town Park
Haudenosaunee Trail (the name of the road)
(~1/4 mile West of Clinton Avenue off of Westfall Road south side)
(A smoke-free, alcohol-free environment)

----------------------------------------------------------
And a short Hike, open to all:

Short Hike: Nov. 14, 2009 Saturday
RNSC Hike, Lead by Gary Reif, Meet at Hitching Post Plaza (opposite Abbotts
Custard, Bushnell Basin, Rt.96) 10am. Hike conveniently starts and ends at
Abbotts and Finger Lakes Coffee. Hike and check out a skiable trail next to a
pretty creek and small waterfall. There and back is 2-3 miles. Trails are dog
friendly, but poison ivy is in the area (where isn't it!).

Glad to hear Michael!

Hey, FYI, Some of the kids in the youth xc ski program will be running in the
"Pumpkins in the Park" race this Sat at Cobbs Hill park. Some are doing the 5k
and some are doing the kids 1 mile fun run. I will be there handing out fliers
about the upcoming GVBKYS info meeting.

Fleet Feet has issued a challenge to us. If we can get 10 adult volunteers to
help out at the race, they will email the notice about our Nov 5th GVBKYS
orientation meeting to their subscriber list (1700 runners!) This is a great
opportunity for us to promote xc to the running community, at least to those
with kids anyway.

If anyone on this list is interested and available to help, please email me at
djudd1@... by Fri at 11am.

Thanks!
Elizabeth



--- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "femike99" <femike99@...> wrote:
>
> Elizabeth,
>
> Thank you!
>
> My posting yesterday elicited a very positive response from Bob and  exactly
what I was fishing for!  I'm also excited by the news that he provided to me.  I
don't want to steal his thunder and say anything here though.
>
> Michael Valleriano
>
> --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "dan_judd_1255" <djudd1@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello Michael, I am only the communications coordinator for GVBKYS.
Basically, I am a mom with some skiing kids who is helping the youth group out.
But I can pass your concerns on to Bob W. I will forward your note to him.
> >
> > Elizabeth
> >
> >
> > --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "femike99" <femike99@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thanks for the update Elizabeth!  But as communications coordinator is it
possible for someone to communicate what is happening to XC Rochester (and dues
fees that my family paid).
> > >
> > > Are these dues going to support BKYS?  Are there monies remaining to groom
HH?
> > >
> > > It's not like some of us haven't tried, or even volunteered, to get
communications out of this group.  It's truly a same.
> > >
> > > Michael Valleriano
> > >
> > > --- In rochesterxc@yahoogroups.com, "dan_judd_1255" <djudd1@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hello,
> > > >
> > > > GVBKYS, our local xc ski club for children ages 5-13, is ready for
another great season of fun and skiing! If you have young children who are ready
to learn the sport, please consider attending our informational meeting and
youth xc ski swap:
> > > >
> > > > Date: Thurs Nov 5th
> > > > Time: 6:30-8:30pm
> > > > Location: St Catherine's Schnacky Center on Rt 64, hamlet of Mendon
> > > >
> > > > We ski Saturdays at 10am, at Mendon PP North Meadow when there is enough
snow, defaulting to Bristol Summit when snowmaking is needed. The kids are
divided into 4 different levels, each with separate coaches - 2 recreational
groups on waxless skis and 2 sport groups on performance skis (skate and
classic). They have a great time, make friends, play ski games, and finish every
practice session with hot chocolate and snacks. Additionally, the kids
particpate in a few races throughout the season, some locally and others at Tug
Hill or Lake Placid. The sport groups also participate in a 2 day xc ski camp at
Bristol Summit during Dec break.
> > > >
> > > > Visit the web site for more information www.xcrochester.com. Please pass
this information along to any families who may be interested.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks!
> > > > Elizabeth McInerney
> > > > GVBKYS Communications Coordinator
> > > >
> > >
> >
>