--- In roadracingukandireland@yahoogroups.com, mickymallen
I don't accept the notion that doping will always be with us. Cycling
has an image problem because of doping and the solution is not to
throw up our hands and declare that "boys will be boys".
Riders must receive the message that doping will not be tolerated. If
that means testing every rider before and after every race or stage
then so be it.
Some races may not be able to sustain the burden of testing. Race
times and speeds may be noticeably reduced.So be it. If the fans think
the athletes are cheaters there will be no reason to care.
I think fans still believe that the top riders are fair although the
Hamilton and Heras events probably erode that confidence.

With respect to pros who need to support their families I would say
that being a proo bike racer is not a birthright.
Cheating is unacceptable. If a guy can't win a spot on a team without
cheating then he should get off his bike and get a real job.

End rant. I hope this doesn't come across as hostility to members of
this group because that isn't my intention. This is a fascinating topic


<no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> ......which is the way the sport is at the mo and I would NEVER cheat
> myself. Used to worry that 2 cups of coffee before a race was one too
> many!
> but It will always be in existance in the sport and is basically an
> advantage to be gained in the same way one type of equipment is over
> another.
> Eg - would lemond of won the Tour without tri bars in 89? Course he
> wouldnt have. A superb ride, but them 8 seconds were shaved due to
> equipment.
>
> the point is - would making doping legal but controlled make the sport
> a level playing field. Yes it would even things up, but like I said,
> there will ALWAYS be people prepared to do more, use more etc.
>
> No end to this arguement. I aint a Pro so I dont have to race my bike
> to cloth my daughter and put a roof over my head, so how can I
> possibly comment on what sorts of pressures pros are under to cheat?
> Would i cheat? No. But I bet all the pros that have done thought that
> too.
> Our sport gets so much mud slung at it as a result, but other sports
> have it too! Dunno why we(sport of cycling) are seen to be the bad
> boys of sport though
>
>
> --- In roadracingukandireland@yahoogroups.com, Dave Kinsey
> <dmkinsey1959@> wrote:
> >
> > I say that doping in cycling should never be tolerated much less
> sanctioned.
> > Cycling is the most beautiful sport because it requires strength,
> strategy, courage and the will to press on in the face of pain.
> >
> > Any drug usage allowed would reduce the sport to a simple contest
> of pharmacists. We may as well go to watching body building contests.
> > I advocate strict enforcement of the anti-doping rules and firm
> penalties for violators no matter who they may be, no matter how
> impressive their record.
> >
> > Dave
> >
> > mickymallen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> > Interesting, and in part I agree that it COULD work. Eddy
Merckx said
> > you cant win the tour de france on just mineral water and ham
> sandwiches.
> > BUT the problem would be that there are always riders prepared to go
> > that little bit further to gain an advantage over the field. It wouldn
> > never work
> > For instance a Doctor regulated dose of steroids/cortisone could be
> > 'supplemented' by Mr Cheat by EPO or something else eg dare I say it -
> > Blood Doping,
> > where would it all end
> >
> > As for hamilton, how can 2 tests be wrong? I wish he WAS inncent but
> > is his protestations partly out of the frustratio/embarassment and
> > anger of alowing himself to be caught?
> >
> >
> > --- In roadracingukandireland@yahoogroups.com, Jason Cordingley
> > <jason.cordingley@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Ok I'll throw open the pandora's box and ask this question.
> > >
> > > Should we just legalise drugs and let them take what they want?
> > > Maybe even having 2 different types of races, those who take and
> > those who
> > > are clean?
> > >
> > > An aero wheel gives you some benefits, so does taking EPO, the
> > difference is
> > > can you afford it and do you want to damage your health doing it. So
> > where
> > > do we stop. Maybe we should all race on steel bikes, with no aero
> > wheels, no
> > > tri bars, no aero dynamic clothes, just wooley jumpers etc.
> > >
> > > You get a puncture, tough, no spare inner tubes.
> > >
> > > Jason 'Who's going to duck now'
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/6/06, Lori & Rodney Cox <lorrod7@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > When I first heard about Tyler, I absolutely could not believe
> it - I
> > > > thought he was one of the most upstanding racers out there(staying
> > on the
> > > > bike though.....that was a different story!). So, even today, I
> > question
> > > > what went on with those results of his blood tests. It's a shame
> > too because
> > > > he is getting older and it will be that much harder to be super
> > competitive
> > > > in a race like the Tour de France. Who knows - maybe he'll just
> > become a
> > > > domestic pro. Time will tell.
> > > >
> > > > Rodney Cox
> > > > Chico, CA
> > > > http://www.chicocyclist.blogspot.com/
> > >
> > >
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> > >
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