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Re: Tyler Hamilton

......which is the way the sport is at the mo and I would NEVER cheat
myself. Used to worry that 2 cups of coffee before a race was one too
many!
but It will always be in existance in the sport and is basically an
advantage to be gained in the same way one type of equipment is over
another.
Eg - would lemond of won the Tour without tri bars in 89? Course he
wouldnt have. A superb ride, but them 8 seconds were shaved due to
equipment.

the point is - would making doping legal but controlled make the sport
a level playing field. Yes it would even things up, but like I said,
there will ALWAYS be people prepared to do more, use more etc.

No end to this arguement. I aint a Pro so I dont have to race my bike
to cloth my daughter and put a roof over my head, so how can I
possibly comment on what sorts of pressures pros are under to cheat?
Would i cheat? No. But I bet all the pros that have done thought that
too.
Our sport gets so much mud slung at it as a result, but other sports
have it too! Dunno why we(sport of cycling) are seen to be the bad
boys of sport though


--- In roadracingukandireland@yahoogroups.com, Dave Kinsey
<dmkinsey1959@...> wrote:
>
> I say that doping in cycling should never be tolerated much less
sanctioned.
> Cycling is the most beautiful sport because it requires strength,
strategy, courage and the will to press on in the face of pain.
>
> Any drug usage allowed would reduce the sport to a simple contest
of pharmacists. We may as well go to watching body building contests.
> I advocate strict enforcement of the anti-doping rules and firm
penalties for violators no matter who they may be, no matter how
impressive their record.
>
> Dave
>
> mickymallen <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Interesting, and in part I agree that it COULD work. Eddy Merckx said
> you cant win the tour de france on just mineral water and ham
sandwiches.
> BUT the problem would be that there are always riders prepared to go
> that little bit further to gain an advantage over the field. It wouldn
> never work
> For instance a Doctor regulated dose of steroids/cortisone could be
> 'supplemented' by Mr Cheat by EPO or something else eg dare I say it -
> Blood Doping,
> where would it all end
>
> As for hamilton, how can 2 tests be wrong? I wish he WAS inncent but
> is his protestations partly out of the frustratio/embarassment and
> anger of alowing himself to be caught?
>
>
> --- In roadracingukandireland@yahoogroups.com, Jason Cordingley
> <jason.cordingley@> wrote:
> >
> > Ok I'll throw open the pandora's box and ask this question.
> >
> > Should we just legalise drugs and let them take what they want?
> > Maybe even having 2 different types of races, those who take and
> those who
> > are clean?
> >
> > An aero wheel gives you some benefits, so does taking EPO, the
> difference is
> > can you afford it and do you want to damage your health doing it. So
> where
> > do we stop. Maybe we should all race on steel bikes, with no aero
> wheels, no
> > tri bars, no aero dynamic clothes, just wooley jumpers etc.
> >
> > You get a puncture, tough, no spare inner tubes.
> >
> > Jason 'Who's going to duck now'
> >
> >
> > On 2/6/06, Lori & Rodney Cox <lorrod7@> wrote:
> > >
> > > When I first heard about Tyler, I absolutely could not believe
it - I
> > > thought he was one of the most upstanding racers out there(staying
> on the
> > > bike though.....that was a different story!). So, even today, I
> question
> > > what went on with those results of his blood tests. It's a shame
> too because
> > > he is getting older and it will be that much harder to be super
> competitive
> > > in a race like the Tour de France. Who knows - maybe he'll just
> become a
> > > domestic pro. Time will tell.
> > >
> > > Rodney Cox
> > > Chico, CA
> > > http://www.chicocyclist.blogspot.com/
> >
> >
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Wed Feb 8, 2006 12:56 pm

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Sorry to sound a bit thick here, but does anyone recall what happened to the Tyler Hamilton case? Did he get exonerated or what? I know his ban was quite close...
mickymallen
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Feb 4, 2006
10:10 pm

The last I heard was that the case was still being deliberated by the authorities. I know Tyler is still riding quite a bit, but not sure what his intentions...
Lori & Rodney Cox
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Feb 4, 2006
10:32 pm

Hi rodney and welcome to the groups beacse I dont believe you have posted yet. So does anyone think Tyler will achieve anying? evne thoug he will b (35??) ...
mickymallen
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Feb 5, 2006
2:54 am

I always had good feelings toward Hamiltaon and I wsa surprised that he was implicted in a doping scandal. Saying that, I never considered him a real contender...
Dave Kinsey
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Feb 5, 2006
1:44 pm

When I first heard about Tyler, I absolutely could not believe it - I thought he was one of the most upstanding racers out there(staying on the bike...
Lori & Rodney Cox
rodneycox68
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Feb 6, 2006
10:49 pm

Ok I'll throw open the pandora's box and ask this question. Should we just legalise drugs and let them take what they want? Maybe even having 2 different types...
Jason Cordingley
jasoncordingley
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Feb 7, 2006
9:32 am

Interesting, and in part I agree that it COULD work. Eddy Merckx said you cant win the tour de france on just mineral water and ham sandwiches. BUT the...
mickymallen
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Feb 8, 2006
8:47 am

I say that doping in cycling should never be tolerated much less sanctioned. Cycling is the most beautiful sport because it requires strength, strategy,...
Dave Kinsey
dmkinsey1959
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Feb 8, 2006
11:26 am

So what should happen then is like in the Tour Of Malaysia, all aero machines are banned on the time trials as not all teams can afford them, to level out the...
Jason Cordingley
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Feb 8, 2006
11:34 am

As to bikes, I'm willing to accept whatever the UCI rules to be a legal machine. I assume all the teams and manufacturers have some opportunity to comment...
Dave Kinsey
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Feb 8, 2006
11:53 am

......which is the way the sport is at the mo and I would NEVER cheat myself. Used to worry that 2 cups of coffee before a race was one too many! but It will...
mickymallen
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Feb 8, 2006
12:58 pm

... I don't accept the notion that doping will always be with us. Cycling has an image problem because of doping and the solution is not to throw up our hands...
Kinsey
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Feb 8, 2006
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