How 'bout dem Cowboys?

roberto thomas <ronaldsballs@...> wrote:i cant wait for another redsox
season im already planning for 06 its hard for me to find any fans in my area
because i live in texas but thats okay i love them more than any team in texas
ever!!!


Joshua Milner <joshuamilner@...> wrote:
Another exciting season, too bad it ended so soon.

The Red Sox will back next year and so will I.

I'll root for the White Sox and hope they break their 88 year old string of
futility.

For the moment, I'll root for the Angels.

As always, F the Yankees and you too Mango.  And Ted, and the Crowe.

Give us your address, we'll all come watch the games at your house.


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I am so sad because I had tickets to the next game.  The game that would have
played tomorrow.  My first playoff game.   Oh well at least I can exchange them
for a yankees/Red Sox game next year.  Hold up guys.  Now we can all say.  At
least there was last year.


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i cant wait for another redsox season im already planning for 06 its hard for me
to find any fans in my area because i live in texas but thats okay i love them
more than any team in texas ever!!!


Joshua Milner <joshuamilner@...> wrote:
Another exciting season, too bad it ended so soon.

The Red Sox will back next year and so will I.

I'll root for the White Sox and hope they break their 88 year old string of
futility.

For the moment, I'll root for the Angels.

As always, F the Yankees and you too Mango.  And Ted, and the Crowe.

Give us your address, we'll all come watch the games at your house.


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Another exciting season, too bad it ended so soon.

The Red Sox will back next year and so will I.

I'll root for the White Sox and hope they break their 88 year old string of
futility.

For the moment, I'll root for the Angels.

As always, F the Yankees and you too Mango.  And Ted, and the Crowe.

Give us your address, we'll all come watch the games at your house.


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Hello Fellow Red Sox Fans,

While we are all a little down right now, we have no
reason to be distraught.  We witnessed the greatest
season in Red Sox history last year and we will always
have it.

The 05 team was not as good as the 04 team.  The
pitching just wasn't there.  Epstein needs to focus on
that and resigning Damon during the off-season.

Mike Rotondo

October 7, 2005

Red Sox Fans Will Have 2004 Forever By GEORGE VECSEY

CHURCH bells were pealing all over Brooklyn. That's what I remember from the
afternoon of Oct. 4, 1955. It was a grand day to be in the borough of Brooklyn.



I was playing a different sport that afternoon: soccer, for Jamaica High School,
against either Bushwick or Brooklyn Automotive, I forget which. People were
listening to the Dodgers game on rudimentary portable radios, and when Gil
Hodges scooped up Pee Wee Reese's throw for the final out up in the Bronx, you
could hear the bustle all over the borough: horns honking, people cheering,
bells ringing. Next Year had finally arrived.



Next Year was the mystical moment we had awaited all those generations, the end
of the yearning, the answer for faith. We Dodger fans, even from the tame
precincts of Queens, knew this was not some cheap thrill, some easy moment of
grace. Suffering and patience had been rewarded, paid in full.



One can only hope that in that other special place called Red Sox Nation, the
fans thoroughly appreciated what transpired last October. Let us hope that New
England stored up the glory the way their ancestors on this land stocked grain
and potatoes for the long winter ahead. Right now it does not look good.After an
epic Bucknerian fumble by Tony Graffanino on Wednesday night, the Red Sox are
down, two games to none, in the division series and play the Chicago White Sox
this afternoon in Fenway Park. One more loss will finish it for Boston. One
thing we learned fast in Brooklyn was that Next Year does not roll over, like
some automatic favorable rate on a C.D. You have to go back out there and
renegotiate.



Yankee fans, of course, expect their dividends every autumn. When the Yankees do
not win the World Series, they grow surly and mutinous. Right now there is an
undercurrent of sentiment that Joe Torre has not been producing championships
lately - not since 2000! - and that it is time for a change, that the Yankees
should somehow scuttle Torre before Joe Girardi flies the coop to the Marlins.



(My scenario is that Torre scuttles Steinbrenner, maybe even with victory-parade
ticker tape in his hair. Torre to Boss in front of City Hall: George, you're
fired.)



With the Yankees, it is always supposed to be Next Year. The Yankees made some
errors late Wednesday night and lost to the Angels, tying their series at one
game each. Tonight they play in Yankee Stadium. Yankee fans fear the worst but
demand the best. That is part of the peculiar joyless attraction of being a
Yankee fan, I guess.



No matter what comes down, Boston fans should take their cue from 1955. Enjoy
it. Savor it. Know what your mission is in life. We Dodger fans knew our team
was different. It was the team of Jackie Robinson and Roy Campanella and Don
Newcombe. Before that, it had been the team of Dixie Walker, Dazzy Vance, even
goofy young Casey Stengel.



We loved the Dodgers for their own bumbling selves, until Branch Rickey signed
Jackie Robinson for the 1947 season, and that made us the good guys, righting
the wrongs of a segregated industry in a nation with racist tendencies.



So what if we had never won a World Series? Every time the Yankees or the Giants
(or the Phillies, in 1950) broke our hearts, we consoled ourselves that we had
virtue on our side. We knew suffering. Next year in Flatbush, we told ourselves.
So that's what 1955 was all about.

The Red Sox, ever since their championship of 1918, had lugged their own
accumulated grief, all the baggage of Babe Ruth, all the angst of Ted Williams,
all the guilt (and missed opportunities) of the faux tryout for young Jackie
Robinson. But the new management (yes, The New York Times Company owns a sliver
of the Sox) tried earnestly to exorcise some of that miserable old karma, and
was rewarded last October.



I should remind Red Sox fans what happened to Brooklyn in 1956: Don Larsen
pitched a perfect game, Yogi Berra slugged poor Newk into submission, and after
the 1957 season the Dodgers went away. There was never another Next Year in
Brooklyn. How could there have been?



This is not to suggest that the Red Sox are going anywhere. What with
cable-television revenues, these new people seem quite capable of making a
fortune at magnificent, archaic Fenway Park indefinitely. But they let Pedro
Martínez get away last winter, a financial decision that haunts them to this
very day.



You could argue that, in these days of free agency, there may never again be a
team like the Boys of Summer, who stayed together for a full decade. Then again,
Torre, Jeter, Williams, Rivera and Posada are this generation's Boys of Summer:
admirable professionals who embody the belief that one Next Year is never
enough.



In Brooklyn and Boston, one Next Year remains a glorious accomplishment.




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My local radio station (Rock 101 for those who know it) were having a trivia
contest.  The prize?  Two Section 9 row 11 seats to the playoffs on Sat.  The
drawback was thye hit my car with a baseball bat but who cares!


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With the way Wake has been playing the month of September, I have to
agree.

Woo-hoo!!! It ain't over yet!


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>
> i guarantee the sox are going to win at home
>

i guarantee the sox are going to win at home

That's bloody hysterical! Thanks for sharing.


--- In redsoxbaseball@yahoogroups.com, Joshua Milner
<joshuamilner@y...> wrote:
> Didn't see the game but I just read this in King Kaufman's column:
>
>
> Fox announcer Joe Buck got off (a good line). He'd just been going
over some stats covering Derek Jeter's career postseason
accomplishments when he said to partner Tim McCarver, "It's stats like
that and reciting them that leads Ben Affleck, the Boston Red Sox fan,
to believe that you and I are in love with Derek Jeter."
>
>
>
> Affleck is hardly the only one who believes that, but that wasn't
the good line. A few minutes later, with Alex Rodriguez batting, Buck
read a promo for Fox's NFL coverage, then he and McCarver chatted for
a few minutes about Donovan McNabb.
>
>
>
> "I obviously don't know Donovan McNabb," McCarver said, "but he
appears to be a first-class individual in every way."
>
>
>
> "You would love him," Buck said. Then, after a beat, "You wouldn't
love him like you love Jeter ..."
>
>
>
> Josh Milner
> joshuamilner@y...
>
>
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Didn't see the game but I just read this in King Kaufman's column:


Fox announcer Joe Buck got off (a good line). He'd just been going over some
stats covering Derek Jeter's career postseason accomplishments when he said to
partner Tim McCarver, "It's stats like that and reciting them that leads Ben
Affleck, the Boston Red Sox fan, to believe that you and I are in love with
Derek Jeter."



Affleck is hardly the only one who believes that, but that wasn't the good line.
A few minutes later, with Alex Rodriguez batting, Buck read a promo for Fox's
NFL coverage, then he and McCarver chatted for a few minutes about Donovan
McNabb.



"I obviously don't know Donovan McNabb," McCarver said, "but he appears to be a
first-class individual in every way."



"You would love him," Buck said. Then, after a beat, "You wouldn't love him like
you love Jeter ..."



Josh Milner
joshuamilner@...


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The White Sox won their first playoff game at home since 1959.

I think they were due.

I believe that Wells will step it up tonight.

The Sox seem to play best when their backs are against the wall.


Josh Milner
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PHILLIES ARE THE BEST AND WILL ALWAYS BE THE BEST EVEN THOUGH WE DONT
MAKE THE PLAYOFFS!

Fifteen ESPN "experts" predicted the outcome of the Red Sox White Sox
series; eight picking the Red Sox. Stark (3-1), Crasnick (3-2), Olney
(3-2), Neyer (3-2), Kurkjian (3-1) NcAdam (3-2) Karabell (3-1) and Neel
(3-1) picked the Red Sox while Gammons (3-2), Caple (3-2), Phillips
(3-1) Miller (3-2) Gomez (3-2) Rogers (3-1) and Schwartz (3-1) picked
the White Sox.

URL: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/playoffs2005/news/story?id=2179945

POSTSEASON PREDICTIONS
*NAME*  *LDS*  *LCS*  *WORLD SERIES*
*Peter
Gammons*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
White Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 5
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 6
*NL:*
Astros in 7
	 Astros

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Lance Berkman

*Jayson
Stark*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
Red Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 7
*NL:*
Astros in 7
	 Astros

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Brad Lidge
*Jerry
Crasnick*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
Red Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 4
	 *AL:*
Angels in 7
*NL:*
Cardinals in 6
	 Angels

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Vladimir Guerrero
*Buster
Olney*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 4
Red Sox in 5
*NL:*
Padres in 5
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 6
*NL:*
Astros in 6
	 Angels

*in 6*


*MVP:*
John Lackey
*Rob
Neyer*
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 5
Red Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 3
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 7
*NL:*
Astros in 6
	 Astros

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Roger Clemens
*Jim
Caple*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 4
White Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 4
	 *AL:*
White Sox in 6
*NL:*
Astros in 7
	 Astros

*in 6*


*MVP:*
Andy Pettitte
*Tim
Kurkjian*
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 5
Red Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 7
*NL:*
Cardinals in 7
	 Cardinals

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Albert Pujols
*Steve
Phillips*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
White Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 3
Astros in 4
	 *AL:*
Angels in 7
*NL:*
Cardinals in 7
	 Cardinals

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Albert Pujols
*Eric
Neel*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
Red Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 3
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 6
*NL:*
Cardinals in 7
	 Angels

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Chone Figgins
*Gary
Miller*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 4
White Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 3
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 5
*NL:*
Astros in 7
	 Angels

*in 6*


*MVP:*
Vladimir Guerrero
*Eric
Karabell*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 4
Red Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Braves in 4
	 *AL:*
Red Sox in 6
*NL:*
Cardinals in 6
	 Red Sox

*in 6*


*MVP:*
David Ortiz
*Pedro
Gomez*
	 *AL:*
Angels in 4
White Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 5
Astros in 4
	 *AL:*
Angels in 6
*NL:*
Astros in 6
	 Angels

*in 6*


*MVP:*
Vladimir Guerrero
*Alan
Schwarz*
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 4
White Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Braves in 4
	 *AL:*
Yankees in 6
*NL:*
Cardinals in 6
	 Yankees

*in 6*


*MVP:*
Gary Sheffield
*Phil
Rogers*  *AL:*
Angels in 5
White Sox in 4
*NL:*
Cardinals in 3
Braves in 5
	 *AL:*
Angels in 7
*NL:*
Cardinals in 6
	 Angels

*in 6*


*MVP:*
Vladimir Guerrero
*Sean
McAdam*  *AL:*
Angels in 5
Red Sox in 5
*NL:*
Cardinals in 4
Astros in 5
	 *AL:*
Red Sox in 6
*NL:*
Astros in 6
	 Astros

*in 7*


*MVP:*
Brad Lidge


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I feel sorry for all of you outside of the NY Metro area and NOT
listening to Mike and the Mad Dog!  Mike is a Yankee's fan and he is
ripping them apart.  "How DARE they knock Buck Showalter for putting
kids in a game when they aren't even playoff contention and the Yankees
did the same thing."  They claim that the Yankees didn't even attempt
to win yesterday's game but Torre, Jeter, the Yankee announcers and
others have condemed Showalter for allowing his young players to play
instead of his regulars. If the game meant that much to the Yankees to
have Home Field Advantage in the playoffs- it wasn't Showalter's
responsibility to see that the Rangers won.  The Yankees should've
worried about their own winning to assure playoff advantage.

I applaud Mike for finally coming clean with an honest view of the
Yankees and will add this latest action to my LONG list of why I HATE
the Yankees.

For those outside of the area- try to look it up.  This is a classic
Yankees move. They think everything is about them!  I'm in NY and I'm
loving how many callers are hating them!

Pitching is Boston's biggest worry
By Jayson Stark
ESPN.com
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BOSTON -- The Idiots don't work here anymore.

Sad, isn't it? But nothing in sports is forever -- even the greatest nickname in
sports history. And so, for the Boston Red Sox, as another October beckons, it's
time to move on -- into another life, another dimension, another Octoberfest.

"You know," said Red Sox GM Theo Epstein on Sunday, "even idiots grow up."
Then again, since the Red Sox haven't won a World Series without a decent
nickname in 87 years, we don't know yet if it's possible for them to win one
just by playing baseball.

But we're about to find out. Aren't we?



Big Papi celebrates a return to the postseason in a champagne-soaked Red Sox
clubhouse.




On a very weird Sunday afternoon in the life of Yankees-Red Sox lore -- a day
that started with Curt Schilling versus Derek Jeter, dissolved into Felix
Rodriguez versus Kelly Shoppach, and was memorable mostly for the two teams
combining for 14 lineup changes in a single half-inning and a wacky attack of
mega-scoreboard-watching -- only one thing really mattered:
The Boston Red Sox received their official invitation to return to October
Madness.
This time as the defending champs. For the first time since the Woodrow Wilson
administration.

The last time the Red Sox were defending World Series champions, a stamp cost 3
cents and a gallon of gas cost a quarter -- assuming you had a car to pump it
into. So you know it was kind of a while ago.

Oh, and one more thing: The last time the Red Sox were defending champs, there
also was no such invention as a wild card to help them out with their
title-defense plans.

But fortunately for them, Boss Steinbrenner wasn't able to get the whole
wild-card deal repealed since last fall. So the Red Sox were able to blow a
four-game lead over the Yankees with 21 to play -- and still manage to
rationalize it in the end as a good thing.

What was the Yankees' reward for winning the AL East? How about an unwanted
3,000-mile flight to Anaheim to face an Angels team that went 14-2 down the
stretch. Which was just baseball's heartfelt way of saying, "Congratulations."

The Red Sox's penalty for being the wild card, on the other hand, was a draw
against the White Sox -- an outfit that did manage to avoid The Collapse of the
Century last week, but also had the same record after Aug. 1 (30-28) as the
Rockies.

And in one more what-exactly-was-the-bad-news development, those White Sox are
conveniently located a mere one time zone away, too.

"I think it's a point good, bro," said David Ortiz on Sunday. "California wears
me out. It's like going to Japan, man."

Well, the Red Sox will not be forced to beat the Yomiuri Giants, home or away,
in order to defend their title. But they do look like a team that's in for a
much more difficult time trying to win a second World Series than it faced
trying to win the first -- even if no comebacks from 3-games-to-zilch may be
required.

"We realize what we accomplished last year," said Johnny Damon after Sunday's
10-1 win over the Yankees. "We had to be good, and we had to be lucky, and we
had to be mentally tough. And we know going into this year, we need the same
thing. Sometimes you can play well and win. But during this stretch, you also
need so much luck. And we understand that."
More than luck, though, you need pitching. And there's a big, big question about
whether the Red Sox have enough of that.



Curt Schilling held the Yankees to one run over six innings in game No. 162.




They finished with a 4.74 team ERA -- the fourth-highest in the American League.
That's more than half a run higher than the ERA of last year's Red Sox (4.19).
But even more ominous is this fact:

Only one team in history had an ERA that high and still won a World Series --
the 2000 Yankees (4.76).

But that Yankees team had Mariano Rivera to dominate every ninth inning -- and
these Red Sox have Mike Timlin, a guy who has been terrific when they needed
him, but also a guy who last saved a postseason game in (gulp) 1992.

On the other hand, Epstein said, "if there's anything positive about playing in
the postseason, it's that our biggest weakness is bullpen depth, and you can
cover that up a little bit in the postseason."

They will try to cover it up by moving Bronson Arroyo from the rotation to that
bullpen -- and pairing him with their favorite new set-up man, rookie Jonathan
Papelbon, to see if they can duplicate their bullpen excellence of last fall.

But Keith Foulke, who gave up one run in 14 spectacular innings for them last
October, will be hanging out in Dr. James Andrews' office, not the Boston
bullpen. So to repeat, this team will need Timlin to get on one monstrous roll
in October.

And then there's the rotation. It wound up with an ERA (4.56) only a quarter of
a run higher than last year's rotation (4.31). But last year's Red Sox were able
to toss out Pedro Martinez, Derek Lowe and a prime-time Curt Schilling to
steamroll the Yankees and Cardinals in games that demanded nothing less.

This year's Red Sox had no starting pitchers who finished in the top 10 in the
league in ERA or strikeouts. So even though Tim Wakefield won 16 and David Wells
won 15 and Schilling stepped up to twirl six innings of one-run baseball Sunday,
there are doubts.

Schilling still had just two starts all season (out of 11) in which he piled up
more strikeouts than he allowed hits. So the jury will be deliberating on him
all October.

"Ultimately," said catcher Jason Varitek, "I think it will come down to our
pitching, and doing what we can defensively to help our pitching -- because we
can score runs."
Oh, they can do that, all right. They scored 910 of them -- the most in the big
leagues, nearly 200 more than the White Sox and at least 100 more than any teams
in the whole sport except the Yankees and Rangers.

And there's no more feared middle of any order than the 3-4 nightmare of David
Ortiz and Manny Ramirez -- who Sunday joined only the firms of Ruth-and-Gehrig,
Mantle-and-Maris, and A-Rod-and-Palmeiro as the only sets of 45-homer teammates
in history.

"We probably take them for granted sometimes because they're in our uniform,"
manager Terry Francona said of Ortiz and Ramirez. "But when you have to face
them every couple of innings, it can't be a good feeling. I know how we feel
when Guerrero and Sheffield and Alex come up there. You kind of hold your breath
a little bit."

But teams that depend on offense to whomp their way through October tend to hold
their breath for a whole month. So the question that will hang over every Red
Sox postseason game and every Red Sox postseason series is whether the team in
the other dugout has a pitching staff that can keep them from putting up too
many football scores.

Beyond all of this nuts-and-bolts junk, however, there's one more cosmic
question that is even harder to answer:

Now that this team is no longer forced to go into every postseason hearing about
Bill Buckner and Aaron "Bleeping" Boone and 86 years of other assorted horror
tales, does that somehow change the rotation of the earth to make their job even
a little easier?

Count Damon as one guy who thinks so.

"The fans are not as devastated by a tough loss or anything like that anymore,"
he said. "What we did last year was, we erased all the negativity in their
lives, and everyone in Boston seems to be a lot more positive."

They've noticed how little they have to hear about Bucky Dent and Babe Ruth's
piano and all those other ever-popular Tales From The Curse anymore. And by
lifting all those burdens, they've had a season that felt more like Chapter 2 of
Last Year than a Wait Till Next Year kind of season.

So they remain as loose and goofy and dangerous as any team out there. And more
and more in recent years, hasn't it seemed as if the team having the most fun in
October was also the team that won in October?

"I've seen things that have gone on here this year would never have happened in
New York," said Yankees defectee David Wells. "Over there [in New York], they
run a lot tighter ship. But you can do it both ways. That's a business. This is
a party ship. But I've been on both sides, and I'm fine with both. This is a
laid-back atmosphere, and it's worked for these guys."

And because it has worked, they have so much less to lose than they ever have.
Which might well make them more dangerous than they ever have been.

"It's interesting," said their executive vice president for public affairs,
Charles Steinberg. "The energy is still there. The support is still there. The
motivation is still there. But that underlying fear of losing again isn't there.
So you still want to win as much as ever. But you're not carrying that 86-year
burden on your back. ...

"The ache from bearing that stress for so long has been resolved now. Now it's a
fresh, crisp eagerness that wasn't there before -- but not the dread of that
weight."

Weight or no weight, of course, this might not end happily. And it might not end
with another trip on a parade float. And it might not end with 18 generations of
New Englanders weeping their tears of joy.

But whatever, it will be a very different kind of postseason for the Red Sox --
a postseason like none that any living American has ever experienced. So maybe
they don't even need to be the fabled Idiots anymore to repeat.

"The only nickname this team is looking for," said Bronson Arroyo on Sunday, "is
2005 World Series champions."

Jayson Stark is a senior writer for ESPN.com.




Josh Milner
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In a message dated 10/2/2005 7:26:13 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
jimmnn@... writes:

AMERICAN  LEAGUE
Boston vs. Chicago
Game 1 at Chicago: Tuesday, Oct. 4 -- 4 p.m.  ET (ESPN)
Game 2 at Chicago: Wednesday, Oct. 5 -- 7 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Game  3 at Boston: Friday, Oct. 7 -- 4 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
*Game 4 at Boston:  Saturday, Oct. 8 -- time TBA
*Game 5 at Chicago: Sunday, Oct. 9 -- time  TBA





Thanks for the info.


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AMERICAN LEAGUE
Boston vs. Chicago
Game 1 at Chicago: Tuesday, Oct. 4 -- 4 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Game 2 at Chicago: Wednesday, Oct. 5 -- 7 p.m. ET (ESPN)
Game 3 at Boston: Friday, Oct. 7 -- 4 p.m. ET (ESPN2)
*Game 4 at Boston: Saturday, Oct. 8 -- time TBA
*Game 5 at Chicago: Sunday, Oct. 9 -- time TBA



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And just think...we get the pleasure of watching on Fox and listening to the
absurd
commentary by Joe Buck & Tim McCarver through the playoffs & the world series.

I can hardly freakin' wait.

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Hi!  So were Mom and I.  So we turned the game onto the computer.
Jess

i totally agree i was so pissed!!!!!!

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OK people.

We've kicked this guy's ass before.

F the Yankees, F Mango, F the Crowe.

Let's get it started.

I believe.


Josh Milner
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Final Score: 4-3 White Sox.


Josh Milner
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Mirabelli struck out swinging.Mueller struck out looking.Millar struck out
swinging.



At least there was alliteration.


Josh Milner
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Now down 4-1.  Taguchi hits 3-run homer.

White Sox up 4-1 top 7.


Josh Milner
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That was ridiculous!!! Red Sox/Yankees on the small screen and White sox on
the big screen. WTF?? I'm glad I wasn't the only one swearing at the TV.





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Subject: [Red Sox Baseball] I hate FOX



Anyone want pitch-by-pitch updates from the Indians-White Sox game?

That's what I get to watch today on Fox.

Westbrook just walked the guy who hit the game winner last night for the
Sox.

He's now batting .158.


Josh Milner
joshuamilner@...


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Up 1-0 in the 7th.

White Sox just put leadoff man on.

Now 1 out, popup to 2nd.


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I usually don't question Tito's moves...but

Why is Wakefield still in there?


Josh Milner
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Anyone want pitch-by-pitch updates from the Indians-White Sox game?

That's what I get to watch today on Fox.

Westbrook just walked the guy who hit the game winner last night for the Sox.

He's now batting .158.


Josh Milner
joshuamilner@...


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As I wrote several times yesterday, there is no playoff if New York
     and Boston are tied with better records than Cleveland. New York
     comes first and Boston is the wild card team. See where I have
     highlighted in red in the article.


     URL:
    
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2005/baseball/mlb/09/30/al.race.ap/index.html


     Playoff tiebreaker scenarios

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Race  Result
AL East  Red Sox at Yankees
AL Wild Card  Yankees at Indians
  	 Indians at Red Sox
NL Wild Card  Astros at Phillies


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NEW YORK (AP) -- All sorts of playoff scenarios were possible going into
Saturday. A look at what happens if there are ties in the AL and NL
after Sunday's games.

Worth noting: Head-to-head records are only used when two teams have
already clinched playoff spots; they are not used to determine which
teams are in and out of the playoffs.


       American League

The AL East and wild-card spots were still open, with the New York
Yankees <http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/yankees>
(94-66), Boston (94-66) and Cleveland (93-67) each having a chance to
reach the postseason.

. If the Yankees, Red Sox
<http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/baseball/mlb/teams/red_sox> and
Indians finish with identical 95-67 records:

For the first time in baseball history, there would be a double playoff.
New York and Boston would play Monday at Yankee Stadium to decide the AL
East winner. The loser would play the Indians on Tuesday for the wild
card -- it would either be New York at Cleveland or the Indians at Boston.

. If the Yankees and Red Sox finish tied at 95-67, with better records
than the Indians: Both New York and Boston make the playoffs, the
Indians would be out. Because both the Yankees and Red Sox would be
assured spots, then the head-to-head record comes into play; in this
case, the Yankees would have a better record vs. Boston and be the AL
East champion and the Red Sox would win the wild card.

. If the Yankees win the AL East and Boston and Cleveland finish tied at
94-68:

The Indians play at Fenway Park on Monday in a one-game playoff for the
wild card.

. If the Red Sox win the AL East and New York and Cleveland finish tied
at 94-68:

The Yankees play at Jacobs Field on Monday in a one-game playoff for the
wild card.

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