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A pinch of salt   Message List  
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Rose gone

Jalen Rose and a 1st rd pick for Antonio Davis. I like this trade for many
reasons but the biggest is the 16 million we dont have to pay Rose next
season. It looks as though we will be players in the free agent market this
off season. Davis brings us rebounding and a low post body to take some
pressure away from Bosh on defense. I think we all know Davis is no longer
what he once was but i think he will help the team with leadership. I hope
Davis comes in with a positive attitude and helps this team play some
defense. Davis was reported to want to return to the Bulls after he was
dealt to the Knicks, I doubt he will be excited to join the Raptors either.
The money dump is the reason Wayne Embry can not loose this trade, Jalen
might go to the Knicks and play well but he is not worth the 16 million for
next season. Wayne Embry continues to clean out the garbage that Rob Babcock
could not.


>From: "Mike" <lumberkingmike@...>
>Reply-To: rappak@yahoogroups.com
>To: rappak@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Rap Pak] A pinch of salt
>Date: Thu, 02 Feb 2006 12:50:27 -0000
>
>I'm excited to know Toronto's best "Player Trio" team leaders in
>2005-06 new guys James, Calderon and Villanueva. Hats off to
>Babcock. I suspect, if we allowed him to learn from his "rookie
>mistaks" (as we do with Calderon,Calderon and Villanueva), Rob
>would've developed into another Joe Dumars (Detroit Piston's GM
>genius was a "rookie GM" too) eventually.
>
>A revelation:
> Canadian NBA fans are "+/-" aware, as a hockey-based sports fan
>culture. In hockey the score doesn't get to 125-124 ever. Nobody
>scoes 81 in an NHL game! So "+/-" is the focus,not raw srars.
>
>American NBA fans are playing "fantsy basketball" counting only
>positive stats like points, boards and dimes -- and the Raptor
>players are American, with a stat-based sports culture -- totally
>ignoring negative stats like turn-overs and opponent points.
>
>We Canadians enjoy a 1-0 NHL game, so "+/-" is our WISE focus!!!
>
>The touch of salt? Raw trio stats, even though they DO include our
>prscious "+/-" stats, do not take into account when the guys are out
>there. A trio of players who are used in "garbage time", ib blow-
>out NBA games, could have better stats.
>
>Similarly, guys like Hoffa and Woods who bump heads with opposing
>big men before fatigue sets in, at the critical early minutes of the
>game, may not stat out so well.
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Mike" <lumberkingmike@...>
>To: <rappak@yahoogroups.com>
>Sent: Thursday, February 02, 2006 4:20 AM
>Subject: [Rap Pak] ex-GM Rob Babcock's "legacy"
>
>
> > First let me recomend a web site that I learned about from Chuck
> > (only needs one name like LeBron) Swirtsky, "82games.com". This
>is
> > not advertising, I'm just giving full credit to the source of my
> > insight. (On a later message I will add a pinch of salt).
>
>
>
>

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I'm excited to know Toronto's best "Player Trio" team leaders in 2005-06 new guys James, Calderon and Villanueva. Hats off to Babcock. I suspect, if we...
Mike
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Feb 2, 2006
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Jalen Rose and a 1st rd pick for Antonio Davis. I like this trade for many reasons but the biggest is the 16 million we dont have to pay Rose next season. It...
kirk dickson
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Feb 3, 2006
9:48 pm

Fair trade. The Denver pick was getting worse as the season went on. The Knicks wouldn't be anymore desperate now than if the Raps waited until the trade...
vincecrossover
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Feb 3, 2006
10:59 pm

... Make that $14 million. The Raps gave up some cash in the trade, as well....
vincecrossover
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Feb 3, 2006
11:01 pm

Essentially Knicks BOUGHT the denver pick for $14 mil or so. They need rose as much as they need a third eye. While AD might be slightly more useful than Rose...
akaz1976
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Feb 3, 2006
11:56 pm

sorry should add draft pick contracts. but still should have around $8- 10 mil for a freeagent...
akaz1976
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Feb 3, 2006
11:57 pm

Don't be too sure. I think Jalen didn't like the bench work that he was doing here. If the Knicks start him, I think he will be a stand out. ... draft...
Gord C
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Feb 4, 2006
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... Good. If Rose plays well and helps the Knicks out, it would do wonders for the Raps' pick. If he doesn't play well, Isaiah Thomas would look worse and it...
vincecrossover
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