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Re: Jerome Williams

The Raptors' two biggest needs are:

1. size
2. PG

Even though GG tried to address the issue of size over the off-season
getting Bosh (6'10), Moiso (6'10), Bateer (6'11) and even gambling on
Stanley Roberts (7'0), it's a question mark if even half those
players are servicable NBA players.

The PG situation has been with us since Damon left. I don't think
Palacio and Brunson have much upside or are particularly good. We
need a young PG, even if it's an Arroyo, who coincidentally is the
starting PG for the Jazz.


--- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, freewheel_99 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Size is a clear issue with O'neill. It has been seen in rumours
about
> trades and in comments he has made. The other day against the Bulls
> he commented in just how much bigger the frontline of the Bulls was
> in compared with the Raptors. There was also the trade talk earlier
> about Mutombo and recently there is more talk about moving Peterson
> for some frontline help.
>
> I don't happen to agree entirely about JYD or with the trade talks,
> but I do agree with the fact that the Raptors are a small team.
Much
> too small to compete consistently with so many bigger teams.
>
> JYD isn't a bad player but at 6-8 he is one part of a bigger
problem.
> Bradley is a skinny and unathletic 6-10 (I think he is shorter than
> that). Davis is a WAAAY too small 6-9 to play center. Bosh is
skinny
> and maybe only 220 pnds. Moiso is another tall skinny and raw
wannabe
> center. These are not the type of players which will dominate any
> team in the NBA. Hopefully they can compete most nights, but
they'll
> never dominate.
>
> Until The Raps do something about this inadequacy, then they will
> remain middle of the pack or lower.
>
> --- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, "Seymour Butts"
<stupid_johnson@h...>
> wrote:
> > i don't think size is the issue with jyd, i heard that the new
> coach
> > doesn't like how much jyd gambles on defense, going for steals
all
> > the time. size doesn't matter when you do what you're supposed
to,
> > and jyd rebounds really well. besides, charles barkley was like 6-
4
> > and he did well.
> >
> >
> > --- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, freewheel_99 <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > Unfortunatly JYD doesn't have a position. He is a classic
tweener
> > and
> > > they always seem to bounce around their whole careers or get
> lucky
> > > and find just the right situation to flourish. Corliss
Williamson
> > > found a good place, but Danny Fortson is still looking. There
are
> > > plenty of others around the NBA. Larry Hughes comes to mind and
I
> > bet
> > > Hughes has a few more teams yet in his future. Tough for
tweeners.
> > >
> > > The truth is that JYD would never play more than 15-20 minutes
on
> > a
> > > good team and the only reason he played so much last season was
> > > because of all the injuries. Right now he has to share the PF
> > > position with Bosh, Moiso, and to a lesser extent Bradley. All
> > three
> > > players are bigger than him. JYD must once again prove that his
> > work
> > > and hustle are more valuable than size. I really like JYD, but
to
> > be
> > > honest I'd choose size too.
> > >
> > > JYD will just have to wait for injuries or poor play and then
> show
> > > his stuff. Once he gets into the lineup I expect he just might
> > force
> > > O'neill to give him more minutes.
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, dasafa <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> > > > I would really hope that this is just an preseason evaluation
> > thing
> > > > (which I would guess it is) because when JYD was starting
last
> > > year,
> > > > he was one of the league leaders in rebounds and has the
hussle
> > > that
> > > > I think O'Neil would like.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, vincecrossover <no_reply@y...>
> > wrote:
> > > > > Bench warmers like Bradley or Jefferies don't have much
trade
> > > > value.
> > > > > I don't about JYD having much trade value. A playoff
> > contending
> > > > team
> > > > > looking for depth maybe would find him useful. These teams
> > > usually
> > > > > don't have much to offer. So expect scrap in return. An
> > expiring
> > > > > large contract at most.
> > > > >
> > > > > I wouldn't look too much into this. KO knows what JYD will
> > bring
> > > to
> > > > > the floor but doesn't know what Bateer and Moiso will
bring.
> > > Better
> > > > > to find out about our mystery big men now than on Oct. 29
> when
> > it
> > > > > really counts.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In rappak@yahoogroups.com, "nbafan_6969"
> > <andy_dude_381@h...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Whenever I checked raptors boxscores, I found that JYD
> > barely
> > > > played
> > > > > > and barely contributed. At first I thought it was because
> > its
> > > the
> > > > > > preseason, but then I read this article in the Sun
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
http://slam.canoe.ca/Slam/Basketball/NBA/Toronto/2003/10/14/225797.ht
> > m
> > > > > l
> > > > > >
> > > > > > It seems that KO isn't too thrilled with JYD. If he
starts
> > > Moiso
> > > > and
> > > > > > subs with Bosh and Batteer, JYD is out of the rotation.
He
> > > should
> > > > > have
> > > > > > a spot in the rotation, especially with only Davis at
> > centre. I
> > > > know
> > > > > > he isn't talented, but isn't he better than either Moiso
> and
> > > > Bateer?
> > > > > > Personally, I dont care as long as they win, but it seems
> > there
> > > > are
> > > > > a
> > > > > > lot of JYD fans. I wonder how that will sit with the
> > > organization.
> > > > > > Will Jerome get minutes?Get Traded?or maybe be a bench
> > warmer
> > > > (hint:
> > > > > > Jeffries, Bradley)?




Wed Oct 29, 2003 5:32 pm

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Whenever I checked raptors boxscores, I found that JYD barely played and barely contributed. At first I thought it was because its the preseason, but then I...
nbafan_6969
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Oct 14, 2003
11:58 pm

Bench warmers like Bradley or Jefferies don't have much trade value. I don't about JYD having much trade value. A playoff contending team looking for depth...
vincecrossover
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Oct 15, 2003
2:43 am

I would really hope that this is just an preseason evaluation thing (which I would guess it is) because when JYD was starting last year, he was one of the...
dasafa
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Oct 15, 2003
11:44 pm

Unfortunatly JYD doesn't have a position. He is a classic tweener and they always seem to bounce around their whole careers or get lucky and find just the...
freewheel_99
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Oct 17, 2003
12:23 am

i don't think size is the issue with jyd, i heard that the new coach doesn't like how much jyd gambles on defense, going for steals all the time. size doesn't...
Seymour Butts
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Oct 26, 2003
3:10 am

Size is a clear issue with O'neill. It has been seen in rumours about trades and in comments he has made. The other day against the Bulls he commented in just...
freewheel_99
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Oct 27, 2003
1:34 am

The Raptors' two biggest needs are: 1. size 2. PG Even though GG tried to address the issue of size over the off-season getting Bosh (6'10), Moiso (6'10),...
rappak
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Oct 29, 2003
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