2003-2004 Indoor National HS Race Walk Leaderboard



Boys - under 7:30 1500m, 8:00 Mile, 16:30 3000m, 17:30 2 Mile


1500m:
6:22.03  Zachary Pollinger (04 North Highlands, NJ)
				 1/3

Mile: (6:11.00 Paul Tavares Centereach, NY '90)
		 (*Conv 1600)
6:27.08  Zachary Pollinger (04 North Highlands, NJ)
				 12/30
6:54.5*  Christopher Diaz (04 McAllen, TX)
			 12/11
7:01.91  Troy Clark (04 Lisbon, ME)
		 1/11
7:24.93  Tim Davidson (05 Mohegan, NY)
		 12/28
7:37.7*  Roberto Vergara (06 Edinburg, TX)
			 12/11
7:46.7*  Ricardo Vergara (06 Edinburg, TX)
			 12/11
7:52.76  Kyle Libby (Leavitt Area, ME)
		 1/11
8:00.8*  Ernesto Vergara (04 Edinburg, TX)
			 12/11

3000m:
13:53.35  Troy Clark (04 Lisbon, ME)
			 1/18
14:48.90  Kyle Libby (Leavitt Area, ME)
			 1/18
15:12.31  Tim Davidson (05 Mohegan, NY)
			 1/11

Girls - under 8:00 1500m, 8:30 Mile, 18:00 3000m, 19:00 2 Mile


1500m: (6:28.20 Lisa Kutzing Port Jefferson, NY '98)

6:52.33  Maria Michta (04 Sachem, NY)
		 1/30
7:01.72  Laura Richenderfer (04 Penfield, NY)
			 1/24
7:03.73  Rosalind Adams (04 Townsend Harris, NYC)
				 1/10
7:11.1  Kristin Schmitt (04 Northport, NY)
			 1/18
7:27.39  Erin O'Flaherty (04 Connetquot, NY)
			 1/10
7:27.2  Tara Simonelli (04 Clarkstown South, NY)
				 1/19
7:27.94  Rachel Gill (05 East Meadow, NY)
			 1/10
7:29.7  Emily Nyburg (04 John Glenn, NY)
			 12/13
7:35.45  Keisha Pearson (05 Bellport, NY)
			 1/30
7:40.4  Shani Brown (05 New Rochelle, NY)
			 1/31
  -10-
7:42.1  Lauren McDonough (Lansing, NY)
		 1/30
7:46.52  Sarah Hull (04 Brockport,NY)
		 1/24
7:46.83  Jenni Chillino (Suffern, NY)
		 1/10
7:47.48  Tina Hunt (04 Marcus Whitman, NY)
			 12/29
7:48.5  Sarah Johnston (Rye, NY)
		 1/31
7:52.4  Alice Garland (Carmel, NY)
		 1/31
7:52.79  Elizabeth Giorgio (07 Northport, NY)
			 1/30
7:54.94  Brittany O'Brian (07 Bay Shore, NY)
			 1/30
7:58.1  Liz Montreuil (04 New Hyde Pk, NY)
			 1/8
7:58.7  Kate Cannon (Somers, NY)
		 1/31
  -20-
7:59.0  Kristen Casey (Arlington, NY)
		 1/19
7:59.35  Allison Snochowski (08 Fair Lawn NJ)
			 1/11
7:59.9  Jennifer Tinnelly (06 Massapequa, NY)
			 1/8

Mile: (7:00.90 Lisa Kutzing Port Jefferson, NY '97)
			 (*Conv 1600)
7:41.37  Maria Michta (04 Sachem, NY)
		 12/30
7:46.78  Emily Nyburg (04 John Glenn, NY)
			 12/30
7:49.26  Carly Lochola (05 Mt Blue, ME)
		 1/11
7:57.71  Laura Richenderfer (04 Penfield, NY)
			 1/3
8:06.05  Lauren Forgues (05 Boothbay, ME)
			 12/30
8:06.42  Rosalind Adams (04 Townsend Harris, NYC)
				 12/28
8:19.85  Jessie Smith (Mt Blue, ME)
		 12/30
8:20.58  Helen Pottle (Perry, ME)
		 1/11
8:22.27  Renee Fortin (N. Yarmouth Acad, ME)
			 12/30

3000m:
15:35.67  Carly Lochola (05 Mt Blue, ME)
			 1/18
15:57.71  Lauren Forgues (05 Boothbay, ME)
				 1/18
16:07.0  Rosalind Adams (04 Townsend Harris, NYC)
				 12/14
16:10.40  Dana Vered (06 Paramus, NJ)
			 1/11
16:16.7  Rachel Gill (05 East Meadow,NY)
		 12/14
16:58.68  Tina Peters (07 Yellow Springs, OH)
				 1/31

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AllTel Classic RW Results
Friday, 30 January 2004
U of Findlay, Findlay , OH

It was -4 degrees Fahrenheit outside but plenty warm inside the arena when
the race walks took place last night at the University of Findlay.  Which
suited Bobbi Jo Chapman just fine as she is tired of walking in all the
cold weather.

Young high schooler Tina Peters took the pace out faster than might have
been reasonable and put Bobbi Jo on a USATF Indoor Nationals qualifying
time pace before tiring.

Event #11 - Women's 3000m Race Walk:
1.  Bobbi Jo Chapman (30), World Class Racewalking 14:36.50 +
2. Tina Peters (15), Miami Valley TC 16:58.68
3. Kristin Barnett (JR), Rio Grande U  17:39.44 *
4. Billie Robinson (SO), Rio Grande U   18:02.48 *
5. Danielle Doubt (13), Miami Valley Track Club  18:24.70
6. Joyce Phohaska (52), Over The Hill Track Club  18:40.46
7. Ashley Thomas (SO), Malone College   18:50.64 *
8. Jana Marshall (FR), Rio Grande College  19:53.98
9. Roberta Snouffer (53), Stuebenville Striders  19:56.48
Paddy Jones, Pegasus Striders - DNS
Liz Martini, Cinci Walking Club -DNS

+ Qualified for Ohio USATF National Indoor Championships.
*  Qualified for NAIA Indoor National Championships

Event #32 - Men's 3000m Race Walk:
1. Gary Morgan (44), New York Athletic Club   13:56.0h
2. Vince Peters (49), Miami Valley TC  16:56.9h
3. Jerry Goodwin (48), Stuebenville Striders  17:49.1h
4.  Andy Peters (14), Miami Valley TC   18:49.60h


Judges: Mary Jannausch, Vince Peters, Susan Doubt, Kristin Barnett, Matt
Boyles.




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Highights were another Olympic A quali for Jane Saville in 92.53, a strong
performance World championships 5th placegetter (79.35) Luke Adams in 83.45 and
a 3 minute personal best by 19 year old Jared Tallent showing his move to the
AIS is paying dividends. Jared time of 88.10 broke the 88.30 qualifying time to
get into the world cup team. Cheryl Webb was on target for an Olympic A quali
too but was dq'ed on the last lap after receiving 3 late reds.

The juniors were outstanding in the 10km! Lisa Grant, 18, did a huge personal
best to win in 49.29 but even more impressive was the performance by 15 year old
Fiona Alldis who took 2 1/2 off her PB to walk 49.34. Another 15 year old
Jessica Heazelwood was 3rd in 51.23 with World Youth Rep Beki Lee, 17, 4th in
51.46 both also in huge PB's. If you include world youth 6th placegetter Susan
Knapton, who didn't compete here, it'll be tough gig to get into the Junior
World Cup team

Not to be outdone 17 year old Adam Rutter took Just over a minute off his PB
with his brilliant 42.58. Together with 6th place world Youth
placegetter,Michael McCagh,18 (who didn't walk here), who walked 44 and half
last year, the 2 boys should make a great World cup team.

Jim

Women Junior 10k Walk RR
   Group 1: 1, Grant, Lisa, NSW, 49:29.00. 2, Alldis, Fiona, NSW, 49:34.00. 3,
Heazelwood, Jessica, NSW, 51:23.00. 4, Lee, Beki, NSWI, 51:46.00. 5, Jones,
Chloe, NSW, 53:14.00. 6, Rutter, Jillian, NSW, 54:49.00. 7, Worrall, Caitlin,
ACT, 55:34.00. 8, Alldis, Christina, NSW, 55:45.00. 9, Ebejer, Vanessa, NSW,
57:22.00. 10, Burns-Rees, Lauren, NSW, 58:55.00.

Women 20k Walk RR
   Group 1: 1, Saville, Jane, NSWI, 1:32:53.00. 2, Saville, Natalie, NSW,
1:36:18.00. 3, Woods, Claire, ACT, 1:39:18.00. 4, Johnson, Laura, NSWI,
1:48:32.00. 5, Wilson, Lisa, ACT, 1:50:32.00. 6, Peters, Megan, VIC,
1:51:43.00. --, Wolowiec, Simone, VIC, DNF. --, Webb, Cheryl, ACTA, DQ.

Men junior 10k Walk RR
   Group 1: 1, Rutter, Adam, NSWI, 42:58.00. 2, Reading, Brendon, ACT, 52:38.00.

Men 20k Walk RR
   Group 1: 1, Adams, Luke, AIS, 1:23:45.00. 2, Murphy, Liam, AIS, 1:27:25.00.
3, Tallent, Jared, AIS, 1:28:10.00. 4, Berrett, Tim, CAN, 1:29:28.00. 5,
Cousins, Duane, VIS, 1:30:58.00. 6, Bertei, Frank, VIC, 1:32:35.00. 7, Mellor,
Aaron, NSW, 1:33:56.00. 8, Erickson, Christopher, VIC, 1:34:07.00. 9, Smith,
Michael, NSW, 1:42:15.00. 10, Humphrey, Aaron, TAS, 1:58:11.00. --, Sundstrom,
Troy, NSW, DNF.



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Ian. et al,

Yes, I was there and remember it well.  I gave you a 9.5 for style
but Jonathan 9.7 for not grinning while using only one arm.

As a Judge, I support Jonathan for induction into the "P" Hall of
Fame....nobody was as subtle and productive as he was in action.

dick petruzzi




Ian Streamed:

I raced a 50 Km on track in 1996 trying to hit the A standard to qualify for
Atlanta. I started out with help from Jonathan and Marco, the latter
dropping out with a broken toe (!) after reaching out to grab a water cup
and tripping on the leg of the feed table. I dropped off target pace
somewhere after a hundred laps but decided to finish since this would be my
one and only chance to set a PR for track 25, 30, 40 and 50 Km - I was
certain I was not going to repeat this event.

I finished and was wandering back to grab my jacket, it is always cold in SF
even in July, when one of the good folk who had been judging came up to me,
"That was a fantastic performance!" he said.
"I missed the A standard though." I replied
"Not that. I mean the bit at eighteen miles when you were still at sub eight
minute mile pace. I can't even get a good steady stream like that when I get
up in the middle of the night."

Funny how we notice different things about races...

Ian

______________________________________________________________

I raced a 50 Km on track in 1996 trying to hit the A standard to qualify for
Atlanta. I started out with help from Jonathan and Marco, the latter
dropping out with a broken toe (!) after reaching out to grab a water cup
and tripping on the leg of the feed table. I dropped off target pace
somewhere after a hundred laps but decided to finish since this would be my
one and only chance to set a PR for track 25, 30, 40 and 50 Km - I was
certain I was not going to repeat this event.

I finished and was wandering back to grab my jacket, it is alwasy cold in SF
even in July, when one of the good folk who had been judging came up to me,
"That was a fantastic performance!" he said.
"I missed the A standard though." I replied
"Not that. I mean the bit at eighteen miles when you were still at sub eight
minute mile pace. I can't even get a good steady stream like that when I get
up in the middle of the night."

Funny how we notice different things about races...

Ian

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In a message dated 1/30/2004 2:18:51 PM Pacific Standard Time,
walkcoach@... writes:
Is there a record for walking across the country?  I think we should
> have a race like the Race Across America bike race.  We could follow
> their route (Santa Monica to New York), get sponsors, offer a million
> bucks, first one in takes all the cash, turn it into a reality tv
> show.  Al Heppner to Philip Dunn: "Hey, Philip, after we cross
> Arizona, want to go clubbin' with Paris Hilton and Alvia?"
> Philip: "Naw, I'm goin' hot tubbin' with Britney and Ray Sharp."
> What do ya think?
  Hey Chris,

How about I get to walk across the country with Paris Hilton and Britney?

Al


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Sorry, COACH JAKE, but the 1968 race held in East McKeesport was the
35 Km National. I roomed with Shaul Ladany that weekend and he
related to me of his harrowing experiences in the Arab-Israeli 6-Day
War of '67. Little did I know that in two years or so after that race
I would find myself in a war zone. The Eastland Shopping Center
course was the site of a couple of National 20's, but the '68 title
race at 20Km was held that year at Long Beach State College(not yet
upgraded to a University) and hosted by the most cordial(and LBSC
alumnus, Don DeNoon). All the out-of-area walkers stayed at a campus
dorm called Alamitos Hall and got to know each other playing pool and
other recreational activities on the main floor. I roomed with
teammate Dave Romansky and remember trading workout shirts with
members of the Athens A.C.(Bill Ranney, Goetz Klopfer, Jim Lopes and
Tom Dooley). Anyway, JAKE, I am sure your memory of puking your guts
out is real, but perhaps it wasn't at the 1968 35 Km race. By the
way, do you have any recollections of the Junior National(and Open)
50 Km we both did at the Missouri State Penitentiary in November
of '68? THAT one was a real barn burner, eh? LOL! Hope to hear from
you soon!

                          GERRY WILLWERTH

Top 5 finishers in the Suffolk County Large Schools Team Championship

Maria Michta            Sachem            6:52.33 (SB, US#1ranked
performance)
Kristin Schmitt         Northport           7:18.65
Keisha Pearson        Bellport            7:35.45 (SB, US#9)
Elizabeth Giorgio      Northport          7:52.79 (PB, US#14) 9th grade
Brittany O'Brian        Bay Shore        7:54.94 (PB, US#15) 9th grade (this
is only her 3rd or 4th race, so watch out world!!)

Small Schools Team Championship is Saturday evening.  I will report any
performances from it that make the list standard.  The next RW Rankings will
come out on Sunday.

MJR


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Hi,

Track 50km-yuk!!! The very thought of walking 25 laps (which is far enough!)THEN
HAVING 100 LAPS TO GO-EWWW!! Doesn't bear thinking!!!! Makes me glad I'm a coach
instead!!!

Jim

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----- Original Message -----
From: "rael2003" <rael2003@...>
To: "Jake" <walkcoach@...>
Sent: Friday, January 30, 2004 4:11 PM
Subject: To pee or not to pee, that is the question.......


> Dear Jake, please post this if you get it.  I'm still trying to
> figure out how to post to the group list.  Many thanks!!  Chris
>
> It's funny to hear people say the old days, when the 90's seem like
> the 'old' days to me.  Heck, Philip was just a newt then and Curt
> Clausen had a spiky haircut (80's style).  Just gettin' old I guess.
>
> I ONLY SAID 124 LAPS because I was at work (on the internet no
> less!!) and quickly did 31x4 to get the product 124.  Racewalkers are
> fanatical about the distance being measured exactly if nothing else.
> Dave did the 124 plus laps to the meter and qualified.  Immediately
> upon finishing he vowed NEVER to do another 50k on the track.  The
> trouble with track long distance races, at least for me, is the
> temptation to stop being so readily available.  Comfort, food, drink,
> warm clothing are all track side whereas in a road race it just seems
> far off.  It takes a strong psychological profile to go round and
> round for ever.....       I did see a fight almost erupt once,
> though, when a lap counter screwed up the laps for a very good walker
> who was keeping count of his laps.  WOW, and they say racewalkers are
> mellow!  In the heat of racing it was easy to understand why this
> walker got upset.  The officials eventually went with the athletes
> count.
>
> Is there a record for walking across the country?  I think we should
> have a race like the Race Across America bike race.  We could follow
> their route (Santa Monica to New York), get sponsors, offer a million
> bucks, first one in takes all the cash, turn it into a reality tv
> show.  Al Heppner to Philip Dunn: "Hey, Philip, after we cross
> Arizona, want to go clubbin' with Paris Hilton and Alvia?"
> Philip: "Naw, I'm goin' hot tubbin' with Britney and Ray Sharp."
> What do ya think?
>
> Chris Rael
>

I too have found that 50km on a track is not the horrible animal that might be
expected.
My first experience of a really long distance on a track was in fact a 24 hour
race.
Expecting that to be impossibly boring, I took a headphone radio and three sets
of replacement batteries. I never even turned it on!
The potential for boredom seems to ensure that it doesn't happen.
You develop relationships with the people on the sideline.
In my first 24 hour race we all had our own individual lap scorer. These were
people we had never met before. We quickly developed close relationships with
our own lap scorers, and every lap they called out our name so that we could be
totally confident that each lap had been counted. After a few hours I found
myself hurrying down the back straight so that I wouldn't keep my lap scorer
waiting! I soon dropped that idea once I realised what I was doing!!!
Then there was the mad Frenchman who manned the Drinks Table. He curtsied to me
every lap! (I can say this guy was a mad Frenchman, as that is what he
introduced himself as.)
This sort of thing may not fully develop in a mere 50km race, but I have found
it in a milder form in the few races of this distance I have done or watched on
the track.

Jack Tregurtha
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: edndana
   To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Saturday, January 31, 2004 6:54 AM
   Subject: [racewalking] track walking


   Just a comment, since I have done a recent track 50K.  From my perspective,
   the track 50K was easier than walking on the road has been.  I have never
   done a road 50K (walking that is), so I can't compare the two, but I loved
   the 440 yard loop.  I had an aid stop every 400m and I had fans every 60m
   (OK, so most of them were judges).

   A lot of it has to do with individual preferences.  Most people I talk to
   who've never walked a track 50K say "Wow, I don't know how you did that."  I
   tend to think that having this opinion before you've done one will set you
   up to not like it if you ever do one.  I went into it believing that a track
   gave me advantages and I came out of it with a positive experience.

   Now, I suspect that of those who have done a track 50K, many would still say
   they far prefer the road.  And I know that doing that many laps increases
   the possibility of injury.  But I'd encourage people not to automatically
   think of it as more difficult.

   - Ed Parrot




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Just a reminder that the Master's Open Trackmeet (Sterling, IL) will feature a
3000 and 1500 meter racewalk as well as medals in 5 year age groups (30 and
over).

The meet is on 14 Feb. (Saturday) and the runs/walks start at 11 am.

An application can be found here:

http://www.sterlingparkdistrict.com/images/Masters%20Indoor%20Champs.pdf

There are also indoor 'all comers" meets on 7 and 21 Feb.; though the walks at
these meets are often unjudged.  The 5000 meter walk starts at 8:30 am on these
dates.

ollie



ollie nanyes
peoria, Illinois
www.nanyes.org
"If you continue to do what you always have done,
you'll continue to get what you always got"
Dorthy M.

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edndana <edndana@...> wrote:
I'm sure someone will pick up on this, so before they do. . .the aid
stations were every 440y, they didn't move them 2m each time I went by!



Actually, Ed, your aid stations were 0 m apart. :-)

(couldn't resist... and for those of you who object to my using the plural, I
was refering to station numbers with multiplicity with respect to the time
coordiate of Ed's position)

ollie






ollie nanyes
peoria, Illinois
www.nanyes.org
"If you continue to do what you always have done,
you'll continue to get what you always got"
Dorthy M.

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> Just a comment, since I have done a recent track 50K.  From my
perspective,
> the track 50K was easier than walking on the road has been.  I have never
> done a road 50K (walking that is), so I can't compare the two, but I loved
> the 440 yard loop.  I had an aid stop every 400m and I had fans every 60m
> (OK, so most of them were judges).

I'm sure someone will pick up on this, so before they do. . .the aid
stations were every 440y, they didn't move them 2m each time I went by!

- Ed

Just a comment, since I have done a recent track 50K.  From my perspective,
the track 50K was easier than walking on the road has been.  I have never
done a road 50K (walking that is), so I can't compare the two, but I loved
the 440 yard loop.  I had an aid stop every 400m and I had fans every 60m
(OK, so most of them were judges).

A lot of it has to do with individual preferences.  Most people I talk to
who've never walked a track 50K say "Wow, I don't know how you did that."  I
tend to think that having this opinion before you've done one will set you
up to not like it if you ever do one.  I went into it believing that a track
gave me advantages and I came out of it with a positive experience.

Now, I suspect that of those who have done a track 50K, many would still say
they far prefer the road.  And I know that doing that many laps increases
the possibility of injury.  But I'd encourage people not to automatically
think of it as more difficult.

- Ed Parrot

I figured I could knit a few recent threads together.

I walked several times at East LA College - Great track - It was installed for
the '84 Games and indeed it is metric.  It was also an Olympic venue for Field
Hockey.  (BTW, it's 125 Laps.)

The first time I ever attempted to race walk was at Shoreline Stadium. 
Shoreline, in my day, was a sand & rubberized mix (just enough rubber to turn
your shoes and legs black and more than enough sand to fill your shoes with
black sand.)  It was a 440yd track.  Somewhere in the mid to late 80's they
converted the track to a 400m synthetic track w/ an astroturf field.

Walking a 50k on a track, in any fashion, is truly an admirable feat.  Herm's
effort by himself, even though that was his MO, was impressive.  I had the
pleasure to watch the last 20k or so as Rene' Pillar of France broke the world
record (3:41:28.2) for 50,000m at Fana Stadt near Bergen, Norway.  Later that
day, Bernardo Segura set the 20,000m world record (1:17:25.6) while I set a new
U.S. mark, even though being lapped a few times at 1:24:26.9. (I'm not as anal
as you might think, I had to look up all of those times, even my own.)
---------
Back to Shoreline Stadium.... it's a long story so I'm cutting most of the
details.
Basic Inspiration - Pat Tyson & Steve Prefontaine (Tyson & Pre - College
roommates at Oregon)
Tyson started coaching track & X-country circa '71 & started boarding at our
house in '72.  Pre gave my mother a pair of red shoes w/ a funny looking white
swoosh and real waffle-like treads on the bottom.  Soon we were all into
running.  Watching Pre in Munich as an 8 year old gave me the dream to be in the
Olympics one day.  In '74, I went to a couple of Univac (youth track club)
practices at Shoreline Stadium.  I don't recall racing much that year, but I do
remember a large group trying the race walk.  Dean Ingram, whose car license
plate read "I WALK", was teaching the group race walk technique.  I gave it a
try.

The following summer after Pre's untimely death, we made the pilgrimage to
Hayward, where I ran the famous predict your time mile at an all-comers meet. 
We also went to Coos Bay to visit Pre's grave site.  I also started running for
another youth club, the Cheetahs.  The next year I continued to experience
success in the 800 and 1500m runs, but during practice we used to have to race
walk a lap occassionaly and I was often the first one in.  So what should come
along but a point scoring meet.  Having just won the 1,500m run, my coach asked
me if I could do the 800m walk.  From that point forward, I always ended up
walking at least on the side.

A couple of years later ('78) to add to Pre & Tyson's inspiration, we hosted the
Mexican "B" team for a walking event being held in Seattle.  He was 18 at the
time but he was already the star of this squad, speaking a little English, young
Ernesto Canto was inspirational and this 14-year-old could tell he was bound for
greatness.

Credit List
Tyson - after a dozen years of middle school teaching & coaching (politics) he
finally moved up to the high school and his team immediately won the State X-C
Champs.  Now at Mead HS in Spokane he has won nearly every state X-C champs
since, his primary competition now comes from schools in Spokane that caught
Tyson Fever.
Pre - The Legend of American distance running bar none.
Mom - What mom isn't, but for a single mom to open a running store in '75 with a
line of credit from a small company in Beaverton, Oregon that made those funky
waffle shoes, was unheard of in '75.
Super Jock 'n Jill - I started selling running shoes at age 11.  Still the best
in the Northwest.
Dad - His father may have been recognized as an All-American(basketball), but
this USAF pilot & Lt. Col. was the all-american leader to those who served under
him.  Living apart, this was something I missed until his retirement ceremony.
Ernesto - He owned the 20k.
My brother Brent - Shoe designer & '84 Wm's Marathon Trial Director.
Tom Boweman(sp?) (Cheetah TC), Dean Ingraham, Martin Rudow (my coach of many
years), a dozen camping Kiwis (on there way to & from the Commonwealth Games in
Edmonton in '78, they taught me about flag napping), another Kiwi, Arthur
Lydiard (great Turkey day guest), Gwen & Lawrie Robinson(Lawrie- I was always
his runner), Doris Brown-Heritage (our local Amazon woman, Olympian and
Shoreline graduate), Jake (for letting some 19 year olds have too much fun in
Sweden), Doughboy Rich Torrellas (seeing you squeezed into that rental in N.
Sweden, what a hoot) and of course Bill "Rodent" Roe (Mom was the track house
mother, he was the Track House Muther.)
All before the age of 20!!!

Most of all, and not trying to get religious, but I can't help it, at 20,
meeting Jesus Christ, who gave me a sense of purpose in life and that race
walking could be used for His glory. (How too often I forget to acknowledge
this.)
Thank you for the opportunity share my past with this list.
Allen James

Gerry, if my memory serves me correctly ('cause I was in that race), it was the
20K - beastly hot and I drank too much soda after the race and puked my guts
out.
All the best to you, my friend.

Ah, memories, memories.
Coach jake
www.jakesart.com
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Gerald Willwerth
   To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 6:31 PM
   Subject: [racewalking] Peein' and dumpin' on the move


   COACH JAKE's anecdotes about excretory functions while race walking
   got my memory stirring. During a 50 Km Olympic Trials qualifying
   attempt held here in San Pedro, CA, in 1972, Todd Scully and I were
   rounding the turn at the start/finish area of the loop when, without
   warning, Todd zipped behind a palmetto bush and took, for all intents
   and purposes, the fastest dump I had ever witnessed. I imagine it had
   all the force and finality that Karl-Heinz's did on that day in
   Canada. Precious few seconds were lost and the sight of Todd's tush
   apparently offended no one. Speaking of Karl-Heinz, I watched him
   during his final miles(I had dropped out on a very hot day) during
   the US National 35 Km Championship in the parking lot of the Eastland
   Shopping Center in East McKeesport, PA, back in '68. He was finishing
   very strongly, but obviously under duress. As he roared through the
   finish line, he yelled "Gangway!"(or something equivalent in German)
   and proceeded with great haste to the men's room of the center's
   movie theater(one screen, no multiplexes back then). He needed
   to "take care of business," but on this day, a mid-race stop would
   have been out of the question. No reports of any damage to the
   facilities. His competitiveness and grit were legendary. Bruce
   MacDonald's "hose to the left" technique reminded me of a distance-
   running friend who, while participating in a 50-mile track race,
   asked for a bath towel from his support crew and took care of his
   urinary needs by draping said object along the inside of his leg
   and "letting it all hang out." Sometimes you do what you gotta do!!

                       GERRY WILLWERTH




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COACH JAKE's anecdotes about excretory functions while race walking
got my memory stirring. During a 50 Km Olympic Trials qualifying
attempt held here in San Pedro, CA, in 1972, Todd Scully and I were
rounding the turn at the start/finish area of the loop when, without
warning, Todd zipped behind a palmetto bush and took, for all intents
and purposes, the fastest dump I had ever witnessed. I imagine it had
all the force and finality that Karl-Heinz's did on that day in
Canada. Precious few seconds were lost and the sight of Todd's tush
apparently offended no one. Speaking of Karl-Heinz, I watched him
during his final miles(I had dropped out on a very hot day) during
the US National 35 Km Championship in the parking lot of the Eastland
Shopping Center in East McKeesport, PA, back in '68. He was finishing
very strongly, but obviously under duress. As he roared through the
finish line, he yelled "Gangway!"(or something equivalent in German)
and proceeded with great haste to the men's room of the center's
movie theater(one screen, no multiplexes back then). He needed
to "take care of business," but on this day, a mid-race stop would
have been out of the question. No reports of any damage to the
facilities. His competitiveness and grit were legendary. Bruce
MacDonald's "hose to the left" technique reminded me of a distance-
running friend who, while participating in a 50-mile track race,
asked for a bath towel from his support crew and took care of his
urinary needs by draping said object along the inside of his leg
and "letting it all hang out." Sometimes you do what you gotta do!!

                     GERRY WILLWERTH

Herm set the record on a 400m track.  Shoreline, just north of
Seattle. A nice fast surface at the time. Haven't seen it in a few
yrs though. ClubNorthwest still holds all comers there.
Colin Peters  Honolulu

I believe this is correct, but I'm pretty sure the one Herm qualified
for the trials on was metric.  Trying to break 4 hours, he'd want
a 'fast track', and anything not in metric in 1996 probably wouldn't
be in great shape.  But thanks for the exact calculations!  The
psychological thought of 1 less lap just may encourage one of our
oxymoronic (thanks Ollie!) normal racewalkers to look for one of
those instead....
Cheers,
Cheryl

--- In racewalking@yahoogroups.com, "Gerald Willwerth" <gfw47@y...>
wrote:
> CHERYL, when the track is surveyed as a 440 yarder, a 50 Km race
> actually is 124 laps(AFTER you have completed the 120 yards and 8
> inches PRIOR to hitting the start/finish line). I completed just
such
> a race at Los Angeles Pierce College back in 1970(Bob Bowman won
it,
> he'll tell you!). However, my recollection is that ARCO donated one
> of their all-weather training tracks(and a field hockey surface) at
> East Los Angeles College as part of their 1984 Olympic development
> program. This would mean that the original track(a 440 yarder) is
now
> a metric one and would require exactly 125 laps to complete a 50.
> Anyone got the lap sheets?
>
>                     GERRY WILLWERTH

CHERYL, when the track is surveyed as a 440 yarder, a 50 Km race
actually is 124 laps(AFTER you have completed the 120 yards and 8
inches PRIOR to hitting the start/finish line). I completed just such
a race at Los Angeles Pierce College back in 1970(Bob Bowman won it,
he'll tell you!). However, my recollection is that ARCO donated one
of their all-weather training tracks(and a field hockey surface) at
East Los Angeles College as part of their 1984 Olympic development
program. This would mean that the original track(a 440 yarder) is now
a metric one and would require exactly 125 laps to complete a 50.
Anyone got the lap sheets?

                     GERRY WILLWERTH

Hi everyone,  here's another event to add to your calendars:

USATF North Region 10k Road Race Walk Championships
Open / Masters / Junior

Masters awards will go 3-deep in each age group.

Sunday, October 17, 2004

Levagood Park, Dearborn, MI

Contact:   Mary Jannausch-Zemper (race director)
                 (734) 663-0197
                 mjanna@...

I'm in the planning stages, and will keep this list up to date as
things come together.

Mary  JZ

Thanks, Steve, for reminding meof a couple of stories:

Bruce MacDonald (3-time Olympian) showed us (men only) how to pee to the left
while walking on the left side of the road - taking a shorter step with the left
foot.  (I suppose you had to be a "lefty" to do it efficiently without wetting
yourself)
but we were dripping sweat anyway so little matter.

Years ago, while walking a 50K at York University, Canada, I was following about
30 meters behind Karl Heinz-Merschenz when he suddenly veered to the side of the
campus road, pulled down his shorts, squatted, pooped, pulled up his pants and
continued on - almost without missing a step.  Oh yes, before he stopped he did
have the consideration to turn to see how close I was to him. And after he
finished (I was almost upon him), he turned and grinned and charged on. He
almost twisted his neck however, because I had veered to the OTHER side of the
road.

He was an intense competitor!

Coach Jake

From: Steve Vaitones
   To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 10:59 AM
   Subject: Fwd: [racewalking] RE: Pee



   >From: "rael2003" <rael2003@...>
   >Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:55:13 -0000
   >Subject: [racewalking] RE:Re: Records vs. "big meet" qualifying
   >
   >Back in the early 90's I was asked to 'race' in a qualifier for a
   >national team member to get a certain time.  My stated mission was to
   >help with pacing (yeah right) and to MAKE SURE that I finished the
   >race for it to count as official even if I had to crawl in.  There
   >were three of us other racers and the stud.  He lapped us about 3
   >miles into a 20k but the rest of us did our duty even though I almost
   >blew up and turned into a blueberry.  Do you know how hard it is to
   >stay legal and not pee your pants when there is no trackside
   >restroom?

   Back in the old days walkers were tougher;  their motto was "Heel and toe
   and pee on the go".





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>From: "rael2003" <rael2003@...>
>Date: Wed, 28 Jan 2004 22:55:13 -0000
>Subject: [racewalking] RE:Re: Records vs. "big meet" qualifying
>
>Back in the early 90's I was asked to 'race' in a qualifier for a
>national team member to get a certain time.  My stated mission was to
>help with pacing (yeah right) and to MAKE SURE that I finished the
>race for it to count as official even if I had to crawl in.  There
>were three of us other racers and the stud.  He lapped us about 3
>miles into a 20k but the rest of us did our duty even though I almost
>blew up and turned into a blueberry.  Do you know how hard it is to
>stay legal and not pee your pants when there is no trackside
>restroom?

Back in the old days walkers were tougher;  their motto was "Heel and toe
and pee on the go".

Cheryl Rellinger <cherylanimal@...> wrote: C'mon, Al, think about
it......Haven't most of the females you've
known in this sport been pretty smart and fairly normal?

"racewalking" and "normal" are oxymorons. :-)

ollie






ollie nanyes
peoria, Illinois
www.nanyes.org
"If you continue to do what you always have done,
you'll continue to get what you always got"
Dorthy M.

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And I wrote too hastily.  Gauder did those drills to strengthen his tibial
(shin) muscles.
----- Original Message -----
From: Jake
To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com ; Ray Sharp
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 8:53 AM
Subject: Re: [racewalking] Re: V. Savanovic ask again


Good, Ray.
And to add another drill - Hartwig Gauder the great German Olympic champion used
to walk on his heels only with uplifted toes for 50-60 meters with 3-4 repeats
of them.
Coach Jake Jacobson
www.coachjake.com
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ray Sharp
   To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:41 PM
   Subject: [racewalking] Re: V. Savanovic ask again


   --- In racewalking@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Savanovic
   <vsavanovic@y...> wrote:
   > I would like to know what kind of exercises are good for walker's
   tehnique?
   >
   Common question... And of course, the answer is, the best exercise
   for technique is walking with good technique.  Simple, obvious, and
   true.  Always walk legally, with contact and straight knee, uphills,
   downhills, fast, slow, etc.  Video or walking in front of large shop
   windows can help you know what you look like.  Also, watch video from
   world-class events.  And find a good coach if possible.

   There are a lot of exercises that reinforce or exaggerate elements of
   proper technique, with emphasis on dynamic flexibility: crossover
   steps, short quick steps, landing with the toe as high as possible,
   arm windmills (backstroke direction), etc.  These are sometimes
   referred to as Mexican Flexibility Drills, because Mexican national
   team walkers have been doing them during warmups since the 1970s.

   Static stretching or yoga may or may not be beneficial.  I stretch at
   night and feel better the next day.  Stretching has not been proven
   conclusively to make you faster nor prevent injury.

   Weight-lifting and cross-training may or may not aid technique (but
   don't walk with ankle or hand weights.)  I believe the best sport
   that not only improves cardio fitness but may also improve hip
   motion, lower back strength and other race walking technique factors,
   is nordic (cross-country) skiing with the classic (diagonal stride)
   technique.  I believe one of the fastest current 20 km walkers, and
   Olympic favorite from Spain, is a top-notch ski racer.  Other off-
   season sports to try include trail running, cycling and swimming.
   Always wear a helmet when cycling on road or trail.

   Good luck

   Ray



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Dear gang,

I second (or third) the thanks to you, Ed, for starting this thread.  I'm
enjoying the reading.  It's nice to know about Sam Gadless, injuries and
love lives gained through racewalking.

I have our very own Jake Jacobson to thank for racewalking -- and we've
never met.

I had been a runner for years, suffered a few ITB injuries along the way,
but nothing to really keep me away from the sport.  However, I finally just
got tired of running.  I hated going out the door in the morning and taking
off in what usually turned out to be a drudgery run.  I was living in Des
Moines IA at the time, where we have the state library.  Because our local
library contained few books on track & field at the time, I went to the
state library to browse through the t&F stacks.  My goal at the time was to
try to muster up some motivation to keep running.

Instead, I found a couple of books on racewalking that perked my interest.
One was a dusty thing, written in the early 1900s.  The other book on
racewalking/healthy walking was written by Jake.  I checked them both out
and went home to study.  I practiced the technique in my local park
(Waterworks Park for the Iowans in the group) and I didn't get mugged.
Assaults were a problem at the time I lived there; I attribute the 'odd'
look of racewalking to keeping me safe!

I've never been particularly fast, but I love the fluid feel of racewalking,
so I've kept at it.  I've never gotten sick of walking/racewalking as I had
with running. I almost always look forward to going out the door, even when
the temp is subzero.  I've also had the joy of working with some collegians
from South Dakota's NAIA schools (Mount Marty and Dakota Wesleyan) and I've
discovered I like the coaching/helping as much as I do the walking part.

So, thanks, Jake for inspiring me!

Keley SK
South Dakota

In a message dated 1/28/2004 11:36:17 PM Central Standard Time,
rael2003@... writes:

> Elaine set up a track 50k
> (124 frickin' laps!!) at East Los Angeles College.  If I recall
> correctly we had some pretty studly dudes helping us: Allen James,
> Jim Coots, other So Cal racers, so I think 5-7 started.  Everyone
> dropped out, me included, but Dave went 4:20 something by himself for
> the last 15 miles.  And it counted!  He qualified for the Trials.

It shouldn't have counted. 50K is 125 laps.

Dave McGovern               
World Class Racewalking 
www.racewalking.org                 



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Good, Ray.
And to add another drill - Hartwig Gauder the great German Olympic champion used
to walk on his heels only with uplifted toes for 50-60 meters with 3-4 repeats
of them.
Coach Jake Jacobson
www.coachjake.com
   ----- Original Message -----
   From: Ray Sharp
   To: racewalking@yahoogroups.com
   Sent: Wednesday, January 28, 2004 4:41 PM
   Subject: [racewalking] Re: V. Savanovic ask again


   --- In racewalking@yahoogroups.com, Vladimir Savanovic
   <vsavanovic@y...> wrote:
   > I would like to know what kind of exercises are good for walker's
   tehnique?
   >
   Common question... And of course, the answer is, the best exercise
   for technique is walking with good technique.  Simple, obvious, and
   true.  Always walk legally, with contact and straight knee, uphills,
   downhills, fast, slow, etc.  Video or walking in front of large shop
   windows can help you know what you look like.  Also, watch video from
   world-class events.  And find a good coach if possible.

   There are a lot of exercises that reinforce or exaggerate elements of
   proper technique, with emphasis on dynamic flexibility: crossover
   steps, short quick steps, landing with the toe as high as possible,
   arm windmills (backstroke direction), etc.  These are sometimes
   referred to as Mexican Flexibility Drills, because Mexican national
   team walkers have been doing them during warmups since the 1970s.

   Static stretching or yoga may or may not be beneficial.  I stretch at
   night and feel better the next day.  Stretching has not been proven
   conclusively to make you faster nor prevent injury.

   Weight-lifting and cross-training may or may not aid technique (but
   don't walk with ankle or hand weights.)  I believe the best sport
   that not only improves cardio fitness but may also improve hip
   motion, lower back strength and other race walking technique factors,
   is nordic (cross-country) skiing with the classic (diagonal stride)
   technique.  I believe one of the fastest current 20 km walkers, and
   Olympic favorite from Spain, is a top-notch ski racer.  Other off-
   season sports to try include trail running, cycling and swimming.
   Always wear a helmet when cycling on road or trail.

   Good luck

   Ray



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