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RE: [racewalking] Hip Hop for the Hip Drop

Chris, I have been doing what I call racewalking for 5-6 years
(occasionally). I believe I am legal. I am very slow and want to go faster.
At my best I was around 12 minute miles. Now, after not walking except on
the tread mill at the gym, for the last several years, I am 14 minute miles.
One of my goals is to be a "real" RW. To me that means getting to 10 minute
miles. Sunday I made 6 miles. I am pretty sure I held my form to the end. My
pulse hit 180 close to the end. I know I have to get a better base.
Hopefully I will stay the course and get fitter. The reason for my question
is I do not feel a noticeable hip drop like a lot of the pictures of elite
walkers. I wanted to make sure that the hip drop is not one of the pieces to
make you go faster. After all the generous comments I do believe I have to
have some hip drop. It only makes sense if you take the leg away the hip has
to drop. I now think I do not need to exaggerate the hip drop, so maybe that
part is OK. This morning I thought about keeping the back foot on the ground
longer and getting more rotation of the hips. When I could focus on this I
believe I got a longer stride. I hope as my fitness gets better I will be
able to increase my cadence and maybe go faster. I don't think the big guys
have much to worry about from me. It is fun and healthy. Steve







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I am still trying to understand hip drop. When I make my stride I do get a feel that I am getting hip rotation(back and forward movement). I am not sure my...
Steve Patat
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Jul 6, 2009
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Steve, Don't create a hip drop!!!! It takes us years to retrain those who have exaggerated hip drop to minimize it. There is no advantage to having hip ...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 6, 2009
2:49 am

To further what Tom said, any excess hip movement (up, down, in, out) is the result of poor mechanics caused by weak glute, hip & core muscles and accentuated...
Michael Roth
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Jul 6, 2009
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MJR, Maybe the new baby is causing me to become a pacifist. I agree with Michael as well! May I add: If your coach teaches hip drop, drop your coach instead. ...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Steve/Tom, Tom: I saw the heading and assumed we'd get into a fistfight. We don't completely agree on all things hip, but I find myself in complete agreement...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Dave, Thanks for the comments. We do agree a lot these days. Stranger things have happened. Tom...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 6, 2009
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I would like to THANK all for their comments. You have made it much clearer to me. It has been confusing when you see all the different styles of these great...
Steve Patat
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Jul 6, 2009
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I'm, going to have to agree with Mr. Bohlen and disagree with all the other esteemed commentators, successful athletes, coaches and learned racewalk scholars...
Ray Sharp
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Jul 6, 2009
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Ray, I don't think anyone is disagreeing that hip-drop exists or has its place. The point is that it shouldn't be forced or overemphasized. Your analysis of...
Dave McGovern
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Jul 6, 2009
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Dave, and all interested parties: I agree with everything Dave says below, and so, by corollary, what Tom, Jeff, Michael and Tim said as well. With the proper...
Ray Sharp
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Jul 6, 2009
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Put on a shirt that is a very different color than your walking shorts. Tuck the shirt in. This creates a roughly horizontal line between your shorts and your...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Niceto see us all agree. Jeff Salvage www.racewalk.com www.racewalkclinic.com   ________________________________ From: Tom Eastler <eastler@...> To:...
Jeff Salvage
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Jul 6, 2009
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Hi Steve, I've been thinking about this some. Here are my thoughts on the purpose of the hip drop: The hip drop is on the side opposite the straightened leg,...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Hello Steve, The section that you are referring to is on page 19-21 in Race Walk Clinic - in a Book, and while the diagrams might make it seem that there is a...
Tim
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Jul 6, 2009
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This is simply a compilation of the hip-drop discussion, no new material is added. JM Steve Patat: I am still trying to understand hip drop. When I make my...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Everyone has given great answers regarding hip drop. Good scientific bio-mechanical reasoning. I'm just wondering if it was "information overload" for Steve...
rael2003
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Jul 7, 2009
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Chris, I haven't found a person yet who can't actually experience the pelvic rotation around the spine ("hip rotation") in a few minute technique session on a...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 7, 2009
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Chris, I have been doing what I call racewalking for 5-6 years (occasionally). I believe I am legal. I am very slow and want to go faster. At my best I was...
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