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Hip Drop - how to tell if you have it


Put on a shirt that is a very different color than your walking shorts.
Tuck the shirt in. This creates a roughly horizontal line between your
shorts and your shirts that is easy to see. If you wear the waist band
at or above the top edge of the hip bones (pelvic girdle), pull the
shorts down a little so the waist band goes across the top edge of the
hip bones. The goal is to have the line between you shorts and your
shirt to be on the top portion of your hips. Have a friend/spouse/coach
observe you from behind while you are race walking away from them. If
you have any hip drop, the observer should see the up/down motion of the
line between your shorts and your shirt. As a side benefit, you can
detect the dreaded hip sway (side to side movement) from these
observations too - just concentrate on the outside edge of either hip.

Hip rotation is easy to see too especially if you have access to a
treadmill. If you have a pair of shorts or warmup pants with a vertical
stripe down each side, wear those. Otherwise paperclip a small white
square to the waist band on each side of your shorts. Tuck your shirt
in, and position the waist band as described above for detecting hip
drop. Have a friend/spouse/coach observe you from the side while race
walking. Because your body stays in the same place while walking on the
treadmill, any forward and back movement of the vertical stripe or white
square is easy to see. You can still see it from a race walker going by,
but it will take a few times for a novice observer to see it, because
the race walkers body is moving too, and the hip rotation motion is
relative to the race walkers body. If the amount of forward motion looks
different than the amount of backwards motion, have the observer move to
the other side. This difference could be real, or it could be an
illusion. As a side benefit, you can see the relative sizes of the "in
front of the body" portion of the stride and the "behind the body"
portion of the stride.

If you do either of these on a treadmill, it makes it easier for the
observer, because the body of the race walker is not moving away from
the observer and the background objects are not changing. This gives the
observer a longer time to detect what is going on -- very useful for a
novice observer.

If the observer records what they see with a video camera, you'll be
able to see it too.





Mon Jul 6, 2009 3:05 pm

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I am still trying to understand hip drop. When I make my stride I do get a feel that I am getting hip rotation(back and forward movement). I am not sure my...
Steve Patat
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Jul 6, 2009
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Steve, Don't create a hip drop!!!! It takes us years to retrain those who have exaggerated hip drop to minimize it. There is no advantage to having hip ...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 6, 2009
2:49 am

To further what Tom said, any excess hip movement (up, down, in, out) is the result of poor mechanics caused by weak glute, hip & core muscles and accentuated...
Michael Roth
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Jul 6, 2009
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MJR, Maybe the new baby is causing me to become a pacifist. I agree with Michael as well! May I add: If your coach teaches hip drop, drop your coach instead. ...
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Jul 6, 2009
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Steve/Tom, Tom: I saw the heading and assumed we'd get into a fistfight. We don't completely agree on all things hip, but I find myself in complete agreement...
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Jul 6, 2009
5:02 am

Dave, Thanks for the comments. We do agree a lot these days. Stranger things have happened. Tom...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 6, 2009
12:06 pm

I would like to THANK all for their comments. You have made it much clearer to me. It has been confusing when you see all the different styles of these great...
Steve Patat
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Jul 6, 2009
12:19 pm

I'm, going to have to agree with Mr. Bohlen and disagree with all the other esteemed commentators, successful athletes, coaches and learned racewalk scholars...
Ray Sharp
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Jul 6, 2009
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Ray, I don't think anyone is disagreeing that hip-drop exists or has its place. The point is that it shouldn't be forced or overemphasized. Your analysis of...
Dave McGovern
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Jul 6, 2009
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Dave, and all interested parties: I agree with everything Dave says below, and so, by corollary, what Tom, Jeff, Michael and Tim said as well. With the proper...
Ray Sharp
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Jul 6, 2009
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Put on a shirt that is a very different color than your walking shorts. Tuck the shirt in. This creates a roughly horizontal line between your shorts and your...
racewalkmn
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Jul 6, 2009
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Niceto see us all agree. Jeff Salvage www.racewalk.com www.racewalkclinic.com   ________________________________ From: Tom Eastler <eastler@...> To:...
Jeff Salvage
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Jul 6, 2009
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Hi Steve, I've been thinking about this some. Here are my thoughts on the purpose of the hip drop: The hip drop is on the side opposite the straightened leg,...
BBohlen
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Jul 6, 2009
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Hello Steve, The section that you are referring to is on page 19-21 in Race Walk Clinic - in a Book, and while the diagrams might make it seem that there is a...
Tim
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Jul 6, 2009
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This is simply a compilation of the hip-drop discussion, no new material is added. JM Steve Patat: I am still trying to understand hip drop. When I make my...
johnvibes
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Jul 6, 2009
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Everyone has given great answers regarding hip drop. Good scientific bio-mechanical reasoning. I'm just wondering if it was "information overload" for Steve...
rael2003
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Jul 7, 2009
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Chris, I haven't found a person yet who can't actually experience the pelvic rotation around the spine ("hip rotation") in a few minute technique session on a...
Tom Eastler
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Jul 7, 2009
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Chris, I have been doing what I call racewalking for 5-6 years (occasionally). I believe I am legal. I am very slow and want to go faster. At my best I was...
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