Have any of you read Fast Food Nation? The fast food industry started this type
of marketing.

-----Original Message-----
From: Don Whitehead [mailto:don.whitehead@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 10:43 AM
To: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [pumpclub] UST Tyre Debate


Don't forget that its the job of marketing, and bike magazines, to sell stuff.
If they can't create a perceived need, you might be happy riding the same
bicycle for years, without buying a bunch of new stuff. Very bad from the
manufacturer's standpoint.


Trevor wrote:
>
> I can now come clean & say I'd already decided against UST technology.
> However mountain biking is built on technological advancement. Before
> mountain bikes came along road bike technology had stagnated. The likes of
> Colnago, Bianchi etc we're lusted after, but technology was limited to
> indexed gears & aluminum frames.
>
>
>
> MTB manufacturers played with oversized aluminum, big forks. Progressing to
> suspension. Cantilever leading to V's leading to discs. All wonderous
> technology that's advanced cycling as a whole.
>
>
>
> Take where we are now, road bikes now weight 16lbs, full suspension 24lbs &
> under.
>
>
>
> I applaud any inventor for new ideas, however I as a consumer do not want to
> see my hard earned going on someone's pet project. That's make consumers no
> more than guinea pigs.
>
>
>
> Cheers for the info & huge thanks for the yestubes.com website. Haven't
> laughed so much in ages.
>
>
>
> Trev.
>
> PS Anyone riding forest park on Wednesday?
>
>
>
> _____
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> From: Roger Louton [mailto:rogerlouton@...]
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2004 8:15 AM
> To: 'pumpclub@yahoogroups.com'
> Subject: RE: [pumpclub] UST Tyre Debate
>
>
>
> Trevor,
>
> Are you really stressing over what equals to less than 1 ounce of weight?
> That's about the same as the
> coins on your pocket. I gladly buy the beefier stuff that lasts longer. That
> lightweight race stuff will just
> leave you broke down on the side of the trail, while the rest of us cruise
> on by asking "need any help?"
> Go with tubes and forget about it.
>
> Roger W. Louton
> 503-745-6163
> Good Design Always Contributes
> To The Bottom Line
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Trevor [mailto:trevorricetemp@...]
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2004 2:44 PM
> To: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [pumpclub] UST Tyre Debate
>
> I'm building a new XC hardtail & have been trying to weigh up the benefits
> of UST, Stans notubes & regular tubes.
>
> If anyone has experience with either the UST or Stans as related to standard
> tubed wheelsets can they post their experiences.
>
> The tencho marketing blurb says UST's are lighter than Standard tubes.
> < http://www.mavic.com/servlet/srt/mavic/comp-ust?lg=uk
> < http://www.mavic.com/servlet/srt/mavic/comp-ust?lg=uk> >
>
> Below is an extreme example of the lightest possible components.
>
> Mavic 717, IRC Serac 2.1, Panaracer lite & Stans rim strip = 1018grams
>
> While Mavic 819, IRC Serac 2.1 tubeless = 1045grams.
>
> When I speced my regular tyres IRC Mythos 2.1's the UST weight was
> 1245grams. So their appears to be a weight increase.
>
> Thus I conclude that the rest of their blurb is inaccurate, but I'd like
> real riders opinions.
>
> I run tyre pressures around 35-40psi with regular tubes & don't normally
> have traction issues. Will UST technology really help as much as the blurb
> says?
>
> Sorry the long techno babble but I'm hoping to save myself & potentially
> other pumpsters from wasting good money.
>
> Cheers
>
> Trev.
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