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RE: [pumpclub] New Bylaws?

I read that as: you can disagree all you want as long as you keep it to
yourself.

It says "Members *shall* support NWTA mission and purpose ..." (emphasis mine).

"Shall" means you will or else, not you can if you want. (Please, all the MTB
lawyers out there in PUMP land tell me that's wrong.)

And what in the heck in NAMBLA, and why are you stating the obvious about the
PUMP listserve?

I agree with some of what NWTA does. If I disagree, I reserve the right to say
so to anybody I want, and I resent the new leadership's seeming power grab (i.e.
"you will all agree with us and stop complaining in public!").
--
The Lee-Man was here.


On Tuesday, November 03, 2009, at 02:44PM, "Dennis Veatch" <Dennis@...>
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Has anybody seen this in the new bylaws: "Members shall support NWTA's mission and purpose, although members may choose to not participate in or publicly...
theleeman69
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Nov 3, 2009
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Lee, Thank you for your feedback. Like what was posted on the website the goal of the new by-laws is to streamline the function and purpose of the ...
Jordan Norris
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Nov 3, 2009
10:30 pm

Jordan: I suggest scratching that section all together, since it does not seem to say what you want it to say. I think the fact that members can disagree...
Lee-Man Duncan
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Nov 3, 2009
11:28 pm

I agree. Dennis Veatch _____ From: On Behalf Of Lee-Man Duncan Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2009 3:27 PM Subject: Re: [pumpclub] New Bylaws? Jordan: I suggest...
Dennis Veatch
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Nov 4, 2009
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I read that as: you can disagree all you want and your still a member. If NWTA says something or does something I don't have to stand behind it. But for the ...
Dennis Veatch
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Nov 3, 2009
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I read that as: you can disagree all you want as long as you keep it to yourself. It says "Members *shall* support NWTA mission and purpose ..." (emphasis...
Lee-Man Duncan
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Nov 3, 2009
11:26 pm

... ;-) ... I would rather the paragraph be removed, or changed to read: "Members shall support NWTA's mission and purpose, although members may choose to...
Patrick Mansfield
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Nov 4, 2009
12:08 am

The language is obviously ambiguous as several conclusions have been made about it. Those who find it heavy handed can vote against the whole of the by-laws...
eric aldinger
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Nov 4, 2009
12:54 am

I think it should be kept, it is wording that is common in other clubs and as Jordan states, it is ment to align the members with the organization's mission...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 4, 2009
12:14 am

Hi Will: Thanks for your thoughtful reply ... ... I don't want to be required to align with anybody. Most folks will join if they are aligned, and will not...
Lee Duncan
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Nov 4, 2009
4:19 pm

Hey Lee, good points. I appreciate the point by point feedback. I do agree that traditionally it has been very hard to get involved. I have had a very...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 4, 2009
5:51 pm

I just urge the wording of by-laws to be the right words. I can think of a thousand things to get pissy about right now that have nothing to do with off road...
Ron and Dorothy Stras...
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Hear! Hear! ... From: Ron and Dorothy Strasser <rondot@...> Subject: Re: [pumpclub] New Bylaws? To: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com Date: Wednesday,...
Barry
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Nov 4, 2009
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leeman, I thought you bailed on the club over 2 years ago, when you bitched and complained about folks at a Scapoose ride that left on time, and didn't wait...
Roger W. Louton
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Nov 5, 2009
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Roger, you are such a hoser, and I mean that in the nicest possible way. You are so out of touch. John Joy new I was coming. He even saw me drive up. Why are...
Lee Duncan
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Nov 5, 2009
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Roger: Before this goes any farther, and after having a beer a re-reading your email and my reply, I want to apologize. I should not have responded to your...
Lee Duncan
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Nov 5, 2009
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Well said, and speaking as moderator, appreciated. -Terry ... From: Lee Duncan To: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 04, 2009 8:13 PM Subject:...
T e r r y
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....And a big thanks to both you guys (it is so easy to be nasty or witty on email)... I was going to suggest two BMX bikes at the top of the downhill run at...
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