You mean you and me?

On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 3:18 PM, Aaron Althauser <AaronAlthauser@...>wrote:

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> My first thought when I saw this was critical mass. There always seems to
> be a few a-holes in those rides.
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> To: pumpclub@... <pumpclub%40yahoogroups.comFrom>:
> shane.gould@... <shane.gould%40daimler.comDate>: Thu, 4 Dec
> 2008 11:59:55 -0800Subject: Re: [pumpclub] possible massive group ride in FP
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> Doing any sort of ride like this without parks permission will only invite
>
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> pumpclub@... <pumpclub%40yahoogroups.com12>/04/2008 11:54
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> [pumpclub] possible massive group ride in FPRoger,Thanks for the background
> before we go forward.JordanOn Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 11:49 AM, <
> roger.louton@... <roger.louton%40daimler.com>> wrote:> Does anyone
> know who 'Free Agent' is before I contact him? There are> rules> within the>
> Parks Dept. for organized events in Public Parks, and the main rule that>
> concerns bicycle> events in a PDX Park is: "Only Permits allowed for Bicycle
> Related Events> are for Paved Surfaces.". How do I know this?> In March of
> 2005, I attempted to add a 'Forest Park Loop' for the Bridge> Pedal, working
> with> Ric Bauman the guy who owns that event. We even had the support of
> Fred> Nilsen, the Forest Park Manager at the time,> but the Parks Dept came
> back with that rule.>> Before this ride gets some traction, let's make sure
> we don't create> enemies with Parks, FP Neighborhood Associations> and the
> Forest Park Conservancy.>> I applaud the idea, but it needs to be done
> right.>> This article will explain how the city views events in the>
> park..........which is interesting, because they STILL allow> the 'Run For
> The Wildwood', which violates these rules:>
> ----------------------------------------------------> Forest Park goes with
> scaled-down approach>> Thursday, April 06, 2006> Fred Leeson>> When members
> and friends of the Oregon Road Runners Club scampered the> entire length of
> Forest Park late last month -- some of them twice -- it> marked the last
> large-scale event in the sprawling park's north end.>> The Bureau of Parks &
> Recreation has eliminated big events in so-called> North Management Unit,
> considered the most sensitive habitat for wild> plants and animals. Further,
> the new policy would prefer that informal> group runs or walks that involve
> more than 20 participants stay out, too,> between Northwest Germantown and
> Newberry roads. "Protecting natural> resources and wildlife habitat is of
> utmost importance in this management> unit," the policy states.>> The City
> Council endorsed the restriction more than a decade ago in a> Forest Park
> management plan, but it never was implemented.>> Jim Sjulin, a Parks Bureau
> nature zone manager, says the new policy stems> from increased human use in
> the past decade and lobbying from the Friends> of Forest Park.>> "The
> Friends has been asking us for a couple years to look at our event>
> policies, and to make the policies consistent with the management plan,"> he
> says.>> The new policy also restricts events to a maximum of 100 people and
> only> in May through October in the Central unit, between Firelane No. 1
> and> Northwest Germantown Road. In the South unit closest to the city,
> between> West Burnside and Firelane No. 1, it limits participants to 500>
> year-around.>> Gail Snyder, director of the Friends, has seen "an explosion"
> of racing> and other events since the 1995 plan. "I think it's a positive
> step," she> says. "It does help protect the north end.">> Snyder, who also
> is an ultramarathoner, notes that the new policy does not> restrict
> individuals from training or from riding horses in the North> Unit. But she
> notes that the most remote area should be reserved mostly> for passive use
> such as hiking and bird watching.>> "We're trying to maintain the North Unit
> as a natural area park, and not> have it perceived as an arena for events,"
> Snyder says. "We have plenty of> other places for events.">> Snyder counts
> at least 20 kinds of group activities that occur in Forest> Park. Some, like
> geocaching, were unheard of when the City Council adopted> the park
> management plan. Geocachers use global positioning devices to> search for
> hidden items. Sjulin says people leaving trails do the worst> damage in
> sensitive habitats such as the North Unit.>> Monika Gold, race director for
> the final "March Mudness" road run, says> she accepts the rule.>> "You want
> the public to utilize this treasure," she says of Forest Park,> "but at the
> same time you don't want to trample all the plants. If you> take out a
> single trillium, it can take years to come back.">> Fred Leeson:
> 503-294-5946; fredleeson@...<fredleeson%40news.oregonian.com>
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> in FP>> see here...>> http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=470789>> and
> then here...>> http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=473762>> I think
> that this potentially could be positive if done right...what do> ya'll
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