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Re: possible massive group ride in FP

Everybody has good ideas both for or against. The biggest reason I am
for it is due to the fact that the effort is fairly splintered. That
makes it easy for those with the power to brush off a small number of
people with no repercussions. A large group ride that gets media
attention shows that there is a big user group that is being
under-served. The idea would be that it puts pressure on the City and
the Forest Park Conservancy to do something about it. It might be
helpful to frame this 'event' in the context of Portland being a
Platinum bike city, but not really having singletrack.

I would agree that PUMP and IMBA shouldn't have their names attached
so they don't get accused of planning or inciting the whole thing. It
almost ends up being a two-pronged campaign. PUMP and IMBA working
with the planners and large groups hitting the dirt to emphasis what
we are working for. This way PUMP can say, "We've been telling you
this for years!"

The ride should be respectful, slower paced and jovial. There are
always some a-holes in critical mass rides, so ideally there would be
marshalls of some sort to mediate conflict.

Has anybody been able to reach FreeAgent?




Fri Dec 5, 2008 7:22 pm

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see here... http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=470789 and then here... http://forums.mtbr.com/showthread.php?t=473762 I think that this potentially could...
mforness12
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Dec 3, 2008
11:43 pm

I think its a great idea! I think the main obstacle to look at would be to make sure we do the ride when it is and has been fairly dry. A lot of people are...
Kevin
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Dec 4, 2008
7:29 pm

Does anyone know who 'Free Agent' is before I contact him? There are rules within the Parks Dept. for organized events in Public Parks, and the main rule that ...
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Dec 4, 2008
7:49 pm

Roger, Thanks for the background before we go forward. Jordan ... [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
Jordan Norris
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Dec 4, 2008
7:55 pm

Doing any sort of ride like this without parks permission will only invite trouble. Shane jordan.norris1@... Sent by: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com 12/04/2008...
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Dec 4, 2008
8:00 pm

I think they are doing it partly because they know they would never get permission, it's more of a protest/demonstration type thing. ... [Non-text portions of...
Brandon Reed
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Dec 4, 2008
8:07 pm

Then PUMP or IMBA should not have there name attached to it. It is a great way to destroy any relationships that have been built. Shane bcr123@... Sent...
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... a ... get ... only ... that you have received this e-mail in error, and delete it. We thank you for your cooperation. =...
LEE HOFFMAN
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Dec 4, 2008
8:22 pm

Personally, I think the fact that this person is talking about doing this demonstration ride purely because "it seems there's nothing happening" to allow...
Joe Rykowski
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Dec 4, 2008
8:27 pm

Joe is right, doing the same thing incorrectly over and over will never make it happen, BUT I must note that I personally have received, over the last 5+...
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Dec 4, 2008
8:45 pm

I am 100% for the idea of the massive group ride. It brings attention to the need for more bike access on Forest Park Trails. If the event is big enough and...
Ted Dodd
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Dec 5, 2008
2:08 pm

Everybody has good ideas both for or against. The biggest reason I am for it is due to the fact that the effort is fairly splintered. That makes it easy for...
Kevin
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Dec 5, 2008
7:22 pm

... What is the larger issue? And what steps need to be taken? Look at what has happened and where we're at now. We waited years just to get a small bit of...
Patrick Mansfield
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Dec 4, 2008
10:49 pm

Larger issue - lots of splinter groups of riders, lack of clear lines of communication, a lack of cohesive group lead by a strong organization with a clear...
Joe Rykowski
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Dec 4, 2008
11:06 pm

My first thought when I saw this was critical mass. There always seems to be a few a-holes in those rides. To: pumpclub@...:...
Aaron Althauser
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Dec 4, 2008
11:18 pm

So, this reminded me a little of prohibition years. Yes, I'm that old. So the government outlawed alcohol and up sprouted the mafia, speakeasy's, and ...
dennis veatch
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Dec 5, 2008
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You mean you and me? ... -- iamerichearmeroar [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]...
eric aldinger
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Dec 5, 2008
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My wife keeps telling me this too. To: pumpclub@...: ewascent@...: Fri, 5 Dec 2008 12:45:35 -0800Subject: Re: [pumpclub] possible...
Aaron Althauser
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