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Re: Cyclecross/pump track/ sklls park greenlighted in SE

This sounds like Parks and Rec has an incorrect vision for this park,
or at least one that doesn't jive with how I can actually see it
being used by the community. I look forward to talking with Will and
Dave at the PUMP meeting about how we can work with Parks to create
the park that folks want.

Parks have many features with elevation for kids to play on - swings
and other play structures. This issue seems to be one of confusing
the issues of risk and how risk can be managed at parks. This is a
recurring problem throughout the state right now in regards to
technical features for bikes, not just limited to Parks and Rec.
But, there are some simple steps that can help with this issue.

I think what is more important is that the park should be designed to
serve the entire community, not just kids. Perhaps having a
designated kids area or smaller skill building features is
appropriate for kids. But, designing the skills park entirely for
kids is wrong in my mind... unless there are plans for a non-kids
skills park?

See you all Tuesday night,
Ryan K.

--- In pumpclub@yahoogroups.com, Will Heiberg <will_heiberg@...>
wrote:
>
>
This is totally getting through parks and rec as a skills park for
kids. They are not interested in talking about or having any jumps
or features with any elevation. Sounds like this is a "build it and
if it works, you have permission, otherwise we will tear it down"
kind of thing. Think we can get a few people together sunday morning
at the school to throw around ideas and start coming up with a plan?
I think Dave is planning to start building the pumptrack asap, so
might be good to try and have a meeting of the minds sooner rather
then later...
>
> This all is a little scattered, but sounds like there is a lot of
potential to get somethgin positive started....
>
> Give me a call if you want more detail - 503 810 1089
>
> thanks,
> -Will




Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:07 pm

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Will, Do you think you could attend our meeting on Tuesday and perhaps have Dave come? We will be focusing the meeting on volunteer appreciation but this is a...
shane.gould@...
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Nov 20, 2008
8:13 pm

Hey Shane, sounds great, let me make sure that tuesday works on my end. what is the time and location of the meeting? I will ask Dave as well. Quick heads...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 20, 2008
9:18 pm

The meeting is Tuesday at 7:30 PM. The location is the Lucky Lab in South East. will_heiberg@... Sent by: pumpclub@yahoogroups.com 11/20/2008 01:18 PM...
shane.gould@...
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Nov 21, 2008
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This sounds like Parks and Rec has an incorrect vision for this park, or at least one that doesn't jive with how I can actually see it being used by the...
rwkilgre2003
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Nov 21, 2008
9:08 pm

PUMP, I've put out a couple of emails to the people I thought would/should be involved, but I have heard nothing yet. I, too, am confused about the 'no jumps'...
roger.louton@...
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Nov 21, 2008
10:13 pm

I understand and completely agree with you about what is being approved and not being approved by parks and rec. I think there is a basic lack of...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 21, 2008
11:11 pm

For anyone interested, people will be getting together Sunday morning at 10am to discuss plans for the field at se 14th and stark. This will just be a general...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 21, 2008
12:01 am

Demand is definitely there, no questions in my mind. Consider everywhere that trails with jumps are constructed illegally around the City of Portland and...
Ryan Kilgren
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Nov 18, 2008
4:09 pm

"Clean" fill dirt is soil from beneath the top soil. Generally clean of organics and other debris. But first it sounds like there's some syncing up to do with...
Joe Rykowski
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Nov 18, 2008
4:35 pm

Great points Joe. I will do a little homework so that I can knowledgably talk about risk management, success stories of skill parks as well as the current...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 18, 2008
8:21 pm

Good place to start might be close to home... Down in Salem at the State Fairgrounds (now managed by Oregon Parks & Recreation), OPRD is collaborating with...
Joe Rykowski
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Nov 18, 2008
8:40 pm

Another professional resource... If considering scaling this up beyond a grassroots volunteer thing... http://www.hoots.ca/skills_parks/company/ ... [Non-text...
Joe Rykowski
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Nov 18, 2008
8:53 pm

The Colonade bike park in Seattle would be a good example. Also...Didn't somebody bust thier jaw at a cyclocross race within the last couple weeks. Aaron To:...
Aaron Althauser
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Nov 18, 2008
9:14 pm

sounds the colonades is an excellent example as is the jump/skills park at the salem fair grounds and the skills park that is being built at veronia... Will...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 18, 2008
9:27 pm

Great points, Ryan. I learned about this on Sunday and have been talking to Dave Reese and working to get involved. I want to make sure that I am there to...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 18, 2008
8:16 pm

I have a couple of yard of dirt that I need to get ride of. It's mostly clay, out of my yard. If you can use it anywhere anytime soon, let me know! Eric To:...
Eric R
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Nov 18, 2008
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Thanks, Eric. Let em find out from Dave wha tthe plan is and see if I can get a sense of a time table. I will let you know more as soon as I find anything...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 18, 2008
8:17 pm

$10 says Chris Bernhardt from Alta Planning+Design will know something. I'm waiting to hear back from him and Jill VanWinkle. If you are not the intended...
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Nov 18, 2008
9:28 pm

We discussed this project at the last W.T.F. BoD meeting (last night), and as with the Sandy River DH project... we're glad to provide input, however would be...
Joe Rykowski
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Nov 20, 2008
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Hey Joe, I know you guys have yoru hands full with projects on the westside, but defiantely appreciate any insight you guys have. thanks! -Will _____ From:...
Will Heiberg
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Nov 20, 2008
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That sounds interesting. I am climbing this weekend, but I would entertain a future weekend. ... -- iamerichearmeroar [Non-text portions of this message have...
eric aldinger
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Nov 14, 2008
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I was thinking of the class on Sunday December 14th. To: pumpclub@...: ewascent@...: Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:43:18 -0800Subject: Re:...
Aaron Althauser
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Nov 14, 2008
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oooh! oooh! I think I can make that one! How far away is it? Their map link wasn't working for me. To: pumpclub@...:...
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Nov 15, 2008
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