Giving up the NFL to take up painting or singing, to travel the world,
to become a doctor, to spend more time with your family, etc. is
putting quality of life ahead of money. Although subjective, I think
most people would consider giving up the NFL so you can smoke pot
without getting caught, and having to pay a fine, not to be the
smartest of decisions. I'm sure that was only one factor in Ricky's
decision, but he did bring it up himself.

fdb


--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Penney" <kalastos@y...> wrote:
> When part of the reason for retiring isn't so he can smoke his life
> away maybe....  Some people seem to be stepping around the issue but
> I call Ricky Williams a pothead and to me that gives him a "ten cent"
> brain.
>
> Doug
>
>
> > > ***** *sigh* Million dollar body, and a ten cent brain!
> > >
> >         So if a player puts money AHEAD of "quality of life"
> >         he is "greedy" . . . however, if a player puts his idea
> >         of quality of life ahead of money said player has
> >         "a ten cent brain".  Exactly WHERE should a player
> >         fall to escape George's moral judgments?
> >
> >
> > -bill  [ PATS  12 ]

Giving up the NFL to take up painting or singing, to travel the world,
to become a doctor, to spend more time with your family, etc. is
putting quality of life ahead of money. Although subjective, I think
most people would consider giving up the NFL so you can smoke pot
without getting caught, and having to pay a fine, not to be the
smartest of decisions. I'm sure that was only one factor in Ricky's
decision, but he did bring it up himself.

fdb


--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Penney" <kalastos@y...> wrote:
> When part of the reason for retiring isn't so he can smoke his life
> away maybe....  Some people seem to be stepping around the issue but
> I call Ricky Williams a pothead and to me that gives him a "ten cent"
> brain.
>
> Doug
>
>
> > > ***** *sigh* Million dollar body, and a ten cent brain!
> > >
> >         So if a player puts money AHEAD of "quality of life"
> >         he is "greedy" . . . however, if a player puts his idea
> >         of quality of life ahead of money said player has
> >         "a ten cent brain".  Exactly WHERE should a player
> >         fall to escape George's moral judgments?
> >
> >
> > -bill  [ PATS  12 ]



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I recently heard someone say, "If you love what you do, you never have
to go to work". Kinda sums it up, I'd say.

fdb

--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, Steve Basile <avatar@s...> wrote:
> I say, more power to him for the decision, (including the factor in the
> decision to smoke more weed) and to do what his heart leads him to
do and to
> enjoy.  Not many people can resist the money, subdue the greed, or the
> resist the lure of further fame.  Therešs a great Talking Heads song
lyric:
> ŗIf your work isnšt what you love, then something isnšt right...˛
>
> Life is too short to hate what you do for a living (this from a former
> software VP now managing a Irish Pub)
>
> If the guy wants to party in Asia, travel, seek and find himself and
what
> makes him happy, so be it.
>
> What I DONšT like is the timing.  He waited too long, left his team
in the
> lurch, and left them without a raft of prospects they might have
signed had
> he prepared them for his decision a bit before he announced it.  As
a bar
> manager it feels like the guy who just fails to show up for a shift and
> leaves me hanging‹albeit with far wider reaching consequences :-)
>
> He should have given his teammates and his organization the common
courtesy
> of some sufficient notice to allow them to make moves to fill an
estimable
> gap at WR.  That was just shoddy.
>
> Baze
>
>
> --
> Steve Basile
> Manager
> B.D. Riley's Irish Pub
> "Think Global, Drink Local"
> Web: www.bdrileys.com
>
>
>
>
>
>  On 7/29/04 3:25 PM, "frankdanabrewster" <frank.dana@c...> wrote:
>
> > Giving up the NFL to take up painting or singing, to travel the world,
> > to become a doctor, to spend more time with your family, etc. is
> > putting quality of life ahead of money. Although subjective, I think
> > most people would consider giving up the NFL so you can smoke pot
> > without getting caught, and having to pay a fine, not to be the
> > smartest of decisions. I'm sure that was only one factor in Ricky's
> > decision, but he did bring it up himself.
> >
> > fdb
> >
> >
> > --- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Penney" <kalastos@y...>
wrote:
> >> > When part of the reason for retiring isn't so he can smoke his life
> >> > away maybe....  Some people seem to be stepping around the
issue but
> >> > I call Ricky Williams a pothead and to me that gives him a "ten
cent"
> >> > brain.
> >> >
> >> > Doug
> >> >
> >> >
> >>>> > > > ***** *sigh* Million dollar body, and a ten cent brain!
> >>>> > > >
> >>> > >         So if a player puts money AHEAD of "quality of life"
> >>> > >         he is "greedy" . . . however, if a player puts his idea
> >>> > >         of quality of life ahead of money said player has
> >>> > >         "a ten cent brain".  Exactly WHERE should a player
> >>> > >         fall to escape George's moral judgments?
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > -bill  [ PATS  12 ]
> >
> >
> >
> > To unsubscribe from Zip's New England Patriots Fan Group, send an
email to:
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> >

The round one thing escaped me!  SORRY!  :)

> >
> >  -p (really misses the Bryant College scene)

As do I Phil.... I really miss being able to walk around the entire field
and watch what I want (read: defense) and sit/stand away from the crowd at
Bryant.  My favorite spot was the goal line/endzone opposite the bleachers.
Now, my boys are about as far away from the crowd as they could possibly
be... way in the far left corner near the bike brigade and we're all
squished like sardines in the designated areas.

Mrs. B

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karen Cardoza" <bruschifan1@...>


> > >  -p (really misses the Bryant College scene)
>
> As do I Phil.... I really miss being able to walk around the entire field
> and watch what I want (read: defense) and sit/stand away from the crowd at
> Bryant.  My favorite spot was the goal line/endzone opposite the
bleachers.
> Now, my boys are about as far away from the crowd as they could possibly
> be... way in the far left corner near the bike brigade and we're all
> squished like sardines in the designated areas.
>
         I appreciate your tenacity in still attending camp.
         Bryant used to be a place where there were more
         players than fans attending camp.  For me it is not
         worth the aggravation to go anymore and I used to
         be there every day for both sessions.

-bill (misses the guy with the funky umbrella hat at camp)

"Time Once Again To Convene Camp Champ" at
http://www.bossports.net/patriots/story.php?filename=040730

Enjoy,

Bob George
http://www.bossports.net

----- Original Message -----
From: <PatsWickedPissah@...>
>
> The other thing that's GONE is the easy ability to be standing 20 feet
away
> from one of the coaches making 'interesting' comments to the players.
Weis is
> a very funny guy ragging on a player.
>
         Are you still close enough to hear Dante's "comments"?


-bill  [ PATS  12 ]

Perhaps it's a good thing. His concern has always been with speed
rushers, not power rushers. Maybe he's trying to get a bit quicker and
more manuverable. Loss of weight doesn't neccessarily mean loss of
strength, either.

fdb


--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, PatsWickedPissah@a... wrote:
> Tim Curran on the radio reports that he saw him in the locker room
and that
> Light has thinned down to 265-270.
> We have an 'issue' at LT because no way you gain 30 LBS in training
camp.
>
>  -p (away from the net for the next few days)

----- Original Message -----

From: PatsWickedPissah@...

To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com ; patriots@...

Sent: Friday, July 30, 2004 10:22 AM

Subject: [patriotzip] Matt Too Light

Tim Curran on the radio reports that he saw him in the locker room and that Light has thinned down to 265-270.  
We have an 'issue' at LT because no way you gain 30 LBS in training camp.

-p (away from the net for the next few days)

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People not knowing Brady's number is really strange, I think.  Not knowing
Mr. B is one thing (I know, you think that everyone should know him but he is
not as main stream) but Brady is all over the place.  When I went out west this
summer there were posters of him in several places that we went to.  That
person is a totally new fan.  And lives in a sheltered world.

http://www.theunionleader.com/articles_showa.html?article=41554

Pats now only have 1 holdout.  However, I think that the Patriots
BENEFIT by having the early bye week.  The Patriots only play 2
games in September, playing their third game on October 3rd.  So
Patriots have plenty of time to get all their rookies up to speed in
the next two months.

I love your recounts of training camp.

--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "Karen Cardoza"
<bruschifan1@c...> wrote:
> July 30, 2004 AM Session
>
>     Thanks to the double session day falling on my lifting day, I
was up and out at the gym at 5:30AM in order to be able to get the
report in after camp today... (we all have our priorities ya know!)
Anyway, got the boys up then headed out.  We arrived at around 8:30
and proceeded to the Season Ticket holder lot which cut down a bit
on our walk.  As soon as I got out of the car, Dave from Patriots
Planet recognized me and said hello.  We found some spots on the
grass next to Scott and Kim (fellow webmasters) and although it was
a weekday morning the place was PACKED!  (Mrs. B is pining for
Bryant College.....)
>
>     As expected, the guys were in full pads and everyone
participated, unlike yesterday's "gift day off" from BB for those
who completed the offseason workout program.  As always, guys did
positional stuff then the ever-exciting  stretching began... Sitting
in the endzone is quite a sight with 100 posteriors looking your way
in a pseudo Downward Facing Dog... lol!  When it was over, the
practice started in earnest...Let the hitting Begin!
>
> Here are my highlights and observations for the day:
>
> During 7:7 Patrick Pass, Dillon and PK stood out..
>
> Catch of the day:  Long bomb from Kingsbury to Patten getting a
huge rise out of the crowd.
>
> Tackle David Pruce had the "honor" of taking the first lap in the
2004 TC.
>
> Big Willie didn't practice and was working with the walking
wounded today.... ??
>
> Kevin Faulk also wasn't dressed.
>
> Ty Law still fancies those grey sweats and old practice jersey
combo rather than the uniform pants.
>
> Josh Miller BOOMS them...and the crowd rewards him with a huge
ovation every time!
>
> Troy, Bethel,  Deion, and  Givens  were making monster catches
down the other end of the field today
>
> Cherry made a great tip (don't remember who was the WR) but
Harrison was laying on the praise Big Time.
>
> Klecko laid the wood on Fred McCrary, and Tedy threw Cloud to the
ground at one point..
>
> Perhaps Lonie was there yesterday but I didn't recognize him
without his bleach blond hairdo... he's back to brown (at least for
today!)
>
>         Practice ran the full 2 hours ....and unfortunately the
crowd began to squish us when The Boys stopped for a water break.
The people apparently thought it was over, although they still had
another 45 minutes to go so we watched the remainder of practice
with people standing right over us with footballs and other things
to be signed.  It was  the Running Backs' turn at the ropes today
but Brady was the first one to sign a few.  He has perfected
the "sign one in each section and move down the line" method in
order to keep moving.  Little did I know, Jacob's football was the
one that got signed in our section....and he's not even the pushing
and shoving type!
>
>     Fred McCrary spent a lot of time in our section and I spoke to
him for a bit... He's very personable.  I asked him how it felt to
be the hunted this year and he smiled and said that it was ok with
him.  He assured me that they still have lots of work to do and
would not be resting. They would be bringing it every single week
and there would be no time off.  I wished him good health and good
luck in the upcoming season.
>
>     Once the horn blew, the guys were free to go but Corey Dillon
continued to sign for a bit in front of the bleachers.... That was
until some kids decided to go on the other side of the ropes on to
the field... Of course once one did, others followed and before long
there was a swarm of people around him.  People started dashing
across the field even!  Security broke it up and started walking him
across the field.  He still continued to sign a few and people were
trailing him.  He was EATING IT ALL UP!
>
> Welcome to New England!
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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> Visit www.patriotworld.com and
> check out TotallyTedy!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Not only do I love her updates on training camp, Mrs. B
knows what she is talking about. Two years ago, she raved
about Deion Branch at camp. Last year, she raved about
Givens. No small coincidence that these two guys have turned
into great players for the Pats. Keep up the great work
Karen! And thank you!

-Rob

Unfortunately, as you well know, it's a rare thing to play your whole
career in one place. We'll certainly miss him, but it's probably best
for both parties.
We'll sure miss him more than Bledsoe. ;)


--- In patriotzip@yahoogroups.com, "Bob George" <bobg@b...> wrote:
> Nomar is now a Chicago Cub in 4-way trade with Twins and Expos
>
> Sox get Doug Mientkiewicz and Orlando Cabrera
>
> Don't know how this will affect Ortiz and Millar...Millar may play
RF in Nixon's absence and Ortiz DH
>
> I'm a sentimentalist when it comes to the Sox, and I was pulling for
Nomar to finish his career here
>
> Bob George
> http://www.bossports.net