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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e4ec5/article/joseph-addai-expected-to-\
sign-with-the-new-england-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack

#19477

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 4:08 am
Subject: Re: More competition at RB - Joseph Addai to sign with Pats

machado.nicholas@...

Kevin Faulk will have some competition if the Pats bring him back.

Can Addai block the pass-rusher as well as Faulk?

Harry

At 01:35 AM 5/6/2012 +0000, you wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e4ec5/article/joseph-addai-expected-to-sign-with-the-new-england-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack

#19478

From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 6:57 am
Subject: Re: More competition at RB - Joseph Addai to sign with Pats

patswingr

He was a more than adequate blocker for Peyton. HIs injury a year ago really diminished both his effectiveness and, as a result, his playing time, last season. It will be interesting to see if the additional rest of another off season will return him to something close to what he was for the first few years in Indy. Until and unless I see that, I'll just sit at "pleased" with the signing; but not "pumped and jacked". :-)

I have great hopes for Ridley, from what we saw of him last season. But I'm wondering about Vereen. This signing, and the rookie FA earlier, makes me think that BB has the same concerns.

- George

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...> wrote:

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Kevin Faulk will have some competition if the Pats bring him back.

Can Addai block the pass-rusher as well as Faulk?

Harry

At 01:35 AM 5/6/2012 +0000, you wrote:

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http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e4ec5/article/joseph-addai-expected-to-sign-with-the-new-england-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack

#19479

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Sun May 6, 2012 3:39 pm
Subject: Re: More competition at RB - Joseph Addai to sign with Pats

machado.nicholas@...

Hopefully Vereen just got off to a bad start by holding out at a short TC and will show some of the promise this year that BB saw when he drafted him.

If there is another problem with Vereen I look for BB to bring in a little more insurance.

Harry

At 01:57 PM 5/6/2012 +0700, you wrote:

He was a more than adequate blocker for Peyton. HIs injury a year ago really diminished both his effectiveness and, as a result, his playing time, last season. It will be interesting to see if the additional rest of another off season will return him to something close to what he was for the first few years in Indy. Until and unless I see that, I'll just sit at "pleased" with the signing; but not "pumped and jacked". :-)

I have great hopes for Ridley, from what we saw of him last season. But I'm wondering about Vereen. This signing, and the rookie FA earlier, makes me think that BB has the same concerns.

- George

On Sun, May 6, 2012 at 11:08 AM, Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...> wrote:

Kevin Faulk will have some competition if the Pats bring him back.

Can Addai block the pass-rusher as well as Faulk?

Harry

At 01:35 AM 5/6/2012 +0000, you wrote:

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d828e4ec5/article/joseph-addai-expected-to-sign-with-the-new-england-patriots?module=HP11_headline_stack

#19480

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Mon May 7, 2012 11:35 pm
Subject: Farewell Matt Light

machado.nicholas@...

The class cut-up calls it a career at a good time in his life.

All the best Matt.

Harry

#19481

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 1:19 am
Subject: Pats-Raiders 1985 Playoff Game

Rich_Carr

Lousy quality video, but it's the first time in 27 years
I've seen any extended footage from that game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uQoESCJ_2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQbWkZ0EEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7h8Kfn8bzQ


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#19482

From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 2:12 am
Subject: Re: Pats-Raiders 1985 Playoff Game

patswingr

I actually have that game, along with many others, on DVD. I had taped it; then later transferred it from tape to DVD with my dual recorder.

- George

On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:19 AM, Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...> wrote:

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Lousy quality video, but it's the first time in 27 years
I've seen any extended footage from that game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uQoESCJ_2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQbWkZ0EEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7h8Kfn8bzQ

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#19483

From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...>
Date: Thu May 10, 2012 8:17 pm
Subject: Re: [patriots] Pats-Raiders 1985 Playoff Game

edbryant36

Matt Millen? Reggie McKenzie? Apparently the late Al Davis had no problem hiring a general manager...................................to play linebacker!!!!

Thanks, Rich! Brian Holloway showed more spunk in his shoving match with Millen than John Hannah credits him, but even so, Holloway was no Pat Sullivan!!!!

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
To: patriots@...; Zip Patriots List <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2012 9:19 PM
Subject: [patriots] Pats-Raiders 1985 Playoff Game

Lousy quality video, but it's the first time in 27 years
I've seen any extended footage from that game:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5uQoESCJ_2A
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eQbWkZ0EEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7h8Kfn8bzQ

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#19484

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 4:10 am
Subject: Squish the Fish!

Rich_Carr

On the heels the Raider game video, here's part 1
of Squish the Fish (the other parts show up in the sidebar):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvLXUDZKiC0

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Rich Carreiro                            rlcarr@...

#19485

From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...>
Date: Fri May 11, 2012 9:05 pm
Subject: Re: New jerseys

edbryant36

Today, Mike Reiss posted a link to today's "practice squad" jersey numbers. The practices are just for rookies and first year players.

No one has been given 93, or 54. Antwuan Molden's number has been assigned to Tavon Wilson. Rodney's number has been given out for the first time I can recall since Harrison left, but I'm sure it's the first time it's been given to a defensive player: Fonzie got it. Dont'a Hightower has been assigned 45. Ohrnberger's jersey has been given out twice!!!! 66 has been given out twice. I'm pretty sure NE will restore 10 to Jabar Gaffney.

But if you're Bama, worried we won't have Carter or Waters, this may be a reason to feel better.

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
To: patriots@...; Zip Patriots List <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 11, 2012 12:10 AM
Subject: [patriots] Squish the Fish!

On the heels the Raider game video, here's part 1
of Squish the Fish (the other parts show up in the sidebar):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NvLXUDZKiC0

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#19486

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Sat May 12, 2012 3:56 pm
Subject: Wilson signs

machado.nicholas@...

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4722137/source-pat\
riots-agree-with-wilson

The Pats begin signing their DP's with Tavon Wilson. Said to be 4 years at
$4.217 million.

Not bad for first job out of college.

Harry

#19487

From: Mark Morse <packy001@...>
Date: Tue May 15, 2012 6:04 pm
Subject: Welker Signs his Franchise Tender

packy001

According to Greg Bedard of the Globe, Weker has signed his $9.515 M Franchise Tender and will be Mini Camp next month. Hopefully this will be a positive step towards a long term agreememnt that is fair to both sides.

Mark Morse
Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

#19488

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 1:33 am
Subject: Dennard signs

machado.nicholas@...

Seventh round draft pick Alfonzo Dennard signed an entry contract according
to Mike Reiss. Dennard was projected to go in the early rounds but interest
in him dropped after he was involved in an altercation the week before the
draft. A favorable court decision and the Pats could have a steal and a
versatile one at that.

So far three of the Pats picks have signed contracts. Second round pick
Tavon Wilson and seventh round pick Jeremy Ebert have also signed contracts.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4722410/dennard-la\
test-draft-pick-in-fold

Harry

#19489

From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 7:20 pm
Subject: Re: Opperud

edbryant36

The Patriots have also signed rookie free agent Jon Oppenrud. I don't know his dimensions at the combine or with the Seahawks, with whom he signed on April 29, but he's listed as 6'7" and 300 by Mike Reiss today. For now, he won't be blocking for Brian Hartline, who was released last week, but he may have to do some personal appearances in a helmet for Nate Solder, because we had no O linemen tall enough to impersonate Solder until now. (The Seahawks released Opperud on May 15.)

From: Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...>
To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:33 PM
Subject: [patriotzip] Dennard signs

Seventh round draft pick Alfonzo Dennard signed an entry contract according
to Mike Reiss. Dennard was projected to go in the early rounds but interest
in him dropped after he was involved in an altercation the week before the
draft. A favorable court decision and the Pats could have a steal and a
versatile one at that.

So far three of the Pats picks have signed contracts. Second round pick
Tavon Wilson and seventh round pick Jeremy Ebert have also signed contracts.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4722410/dennard-latest-draft-pick-in-fold

Harry

#19490

From: Mark Morse <packy001@...>
Date: Fri May 18, 2012 8:00 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Opperud

packy001

Opperud is downright pedestrian running a 5.32 at his Pro Day. He wasn't invited to the combine. He put up 27 reps which is good for a long armed OT. Solder did just 21. He played in 11 games as a feshman and then started 13 as a So at LG. He switched to LT for his Jr and Sr. seasons. Montana played Tennessee this past season, which should show whether or not he can play. Opperud was cut by Seattle on May 15th and signed today after clearing waivers.

Mark Morse
Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

From: Ed Bryant <edbryant36@...>
To: "patriotzip@yahoogroups.com" <patriotzip@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, May 18, 2012 3:20 PM
Subject: [patriotzip] Re: Opperud

From: Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...>
To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2012 9:33 PM
Subject: [patriotzip] Dennard signs

#19491

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2012 3:27 pm
Subject: Ex-Patriots LB Ted Johnson speaks

machado.nicholas@...

On Junior Seau, concussions, different doctor's approaches, BB pushing him
to play before he was recovered from a concussion, an unknown future (. . .
. If that can happen to him (Seau), I've got to be more diligent in how I
live my life. 'Cause it's a road I don't want to go down.") etc. Ted
Johnson is/was as loyal as they come and he was taken advantage of.

http://espn.go.com/boston/nfl/story/_/id/7946834/former-new-england-patriot-ted-\
johnson-calls-death-junior-seau-tip-tipping-point

Harry

#19492

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Sat May 19, 2012 4:05 pm
Subject: At least 50 percent of NFL players smoke pot

machado.nicholas@...

Down from 90% in 1985 according to Lomas Brown. "About 70 percent" of
prospects at the combine admitted to using marijuana" according to ESPN.

Makes sense. More and more recognized as the best or one of the best herbs
for pain, stress, head trauma and more - without a carnival of side effects.

I've always suspected that BB is a burner. No proof mind you.

NFL-420. Has a nice ring to it.

The fans who prefer not to be abused by the heavy drinkers will like it too.

Harry

#19494

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Tue May 22, 2012 2:39 am
Subject: Ebner signs

machado.nicholas@...

Sixth round pick is about to sign according to Reiss. The Rugby player from
Ohio State, said to be a special teams ace, loves to hit. Played CB and I
believe some Safety in college, 6', 205.

Leaves Jones, Hightower and Bequette unsigned.

http://espn.go.com/blog/boston/new-england-patriots/post/_/id/4722539/ebner-4th-\
pick-to-sign-contract

Harry

#19495

From: "Susan Moore" <scmoore90@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 2:38 pm
Subject: Contract $$ question...

madduxlover_ca

When a team drafts the players out of college, then what happens? I've read about a few contract signings lately for the draftees. I thought they had to prove themselves in training camp?

Even if they sign a contract now, they can still be left off the main roster in Sept? Then what happens to the contract money?

I'm trying to find answers on internet sites and can't seem to do it, so I know there are all the experts on here! Thanks....

#19496

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 3:15 pm
Subject: Re: Contract $$ question...

machado.nicholas@...

Hi Susan,

There are many far better qualified to answer this on the list but I will take a stab;

Right now through to training camp is when the bulk of draft picks get signed with their repective clubs. Holdouts can take longer but most teams want their picks signed ASAP after the draft so they can participate in mini-camps etc during the summer. The picks are drafted on how they did in college and the different teams try to guess how skills in college will translate into a pro career. That is why you will hear the draft called a 'crapshoot' now and then.

The 'proving in training camp' that the players must do is to win a spot on the final roster. Right now rosters are expanded to 90 players per team. Before the season starts that number will be cut way down to 53 players and each club can keep so many players on the practice squad in addition to the 53.

The NFL has one of the most management friendly contract structures in sports. My understanding (someone correct me please if I am wrong) is that any contract that is not guaranteed can be voided at any time by the team. If a contract is voided that money returns to the team to be spent on another player(s).

hope this helps,

Harry

At 07:38 AM 5/23/2012 -0700, you wrote:

When a team drafts the players out of college, then what happens? I've read about a few contract signings lately for the draftees. I thought they had to prove themselves in training camp?

Even if they sign a contract now, they can still be left off the main roster in Sept? Then what happens to the contract money?

I'm trying to find answers on internet sites and can't seem to do it, so I know there are all the experts on here! Thanks....

#19497

From: Mark Morse <packy001@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 3:19 pm
Subject: Re: Contract $$ question...

packy001

Proving themselves in camp hasn't been an issue since the early 70's. Up until this year with the new rookie salary cap, a player drafted out of college would sign a medical waiver which would allow them to participate in rookie, mini camps and OTA's. They wouldn'y sign their contracts until the day before camp started. This would allow the teams to carry an extra6-10 players through until the start of camp. Now with the new rookie wage scale in place, hey know what they are getting and the negotiations are easier. The league adopted a new rulle which allows up to 90 players on a pre-season roster.

We had a rookie player tear his ACL during rookie mini camp in 2009. Tyrone McKenzie was an ILB from South Florida, drafted as the last pick in the 3rd round. The team gave him a 4 year contract euivalent to where he was drafted and kept him on IR for the year. He didn't make the team the next year but was signed to Practice Squad. He was released from the Practice Squad a few months later.

Mark Morse
Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

From: Susan Moore <scmoore90@...>
To: patriotzip@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 10:38 AM
Subject: [patriotzip] Contract $$ question...

When a team drafts the players out of college, then what happens? I've read about a few contract signings lately for the draftees. I thought they had to prove themselves in training camp?

Even if they sign a contract now, they can still be left off the main roster in Sept? Then what happens to the contract money?

I'm trying to find answers on internet sites and can't seem to do it, so I know there are all the experts on here! Thanks....

#19498

From: Mark Morse <packy001@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 9:06 pm
Subject: Patriots Sign Top Pick Jones

packy001

Rather significant news the Pats have signed Chandler Jones their first, 1st round pick. This is great news because it allows Jones to participate in all team activities. In the past, without the rookie wage scale in place, the top rookies would sign at the last minute (or be held out of camp like Bewn Watson).

Mark Morse
Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

#19499

From: "Susan Moore" <scmoore90@...>
Date: Wed May 23, 2012 10:23 pm
Subject: Re: Patriots Sign Top Pick Jones

madduxlover_ca

Thanks, Mark, for your earlier answer to my contract question. I did manage to find an article that told a few things about the rookie contract updates from last year's lockout. I'm still confused but I'll keep trying to find things....

I've been a fan for a long time but I've never really thought about the contracts one way or the other. I think that I figured the draftees (rookies out of college) would get a low salary until they proved they could play. To me, those huge amounts they give them before they've even gone to camp are one step short of ridiculous.

Okay, they signed Jones--so now what? He gets his money no matter what? IF he (or any other brand-new rookie) goes to the mini camps, activities, etc. and on to regular camp and just bombs, does he still make their final roster automatically? IF he gets hurt or if he's so bad they ask what kind of koolaid they were smoking on draft day, is he still on the 53-man roster and receives the $$?

Have the Pats had any activities and if so, how have they gone?

----- Original Message -----

From: Mark Morse

To: Patriots ; Zip List

Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2012 2:06 PM

Subject: [patriotzip] Patriots Sign Top Pick Jones

Rather significant news the Pats have signed Chandler Jones their first, 1st round pick. This is great news because it allows Jones to participate in all team activities. In the past, without the rookie wage scale in place, the top rookies would sign at the last minute (or be held out of camp like Bewn Watson).

Mark Morse
Razor's Edge Tailgate Patriots Fangroup
http://sports.groups.yahoo.com/group/RazorsEdgeTailgate/

#19500

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
Date: Thu May 24, 2012 7:58 pm
Subject: NPC: Screwtape and football

Rich_Carr

For those of you who happen to be fans of both C.S. Lewis and
football, you might find this amusing:

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/walkthrough/2012/walkthroughtape-letters

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#19501

From: Rich Carreiro <rlcarr@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 2:21 am
Subject: 1976 Pats radio highlights available on CD!

Rich_Carr

Thought some of us old-timers would appreciate this:

http://www.fleetwoodsounds.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=21&products_id=155

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Rich Carreiro                            rlcarr@...

#19502

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 4:38 am
Subject: Waters to be back

machado.nicholas@...

According to the Boston Herald;

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/05/24/brian-waters\
-absence-from-otas-is-no-big-deal/

Harry

#19503

From: "Machado.Nicholas" <machado.nicholas@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 4:41 am
Subject: Ochocinco struggles during Pats practice

machado.nicholas@...

Might be time to cut bait on this guy. All I've heard this week is how
bummed he is about losing his Starbucks card. Meanwhile he still doesn't
get the playbook.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82952123/article/chad-ochocinco-struggles-\
during-pats-practice?module=HP11_headline_stack

Harry

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#19504

From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 4:48 am
Subject: Re: Waters to be back

patswingr

Very good news! I don't believe that a player can perform as well as he did for the Patriots last season, without having enough left in the tank to be, at the very least, above average for at least one more season..

- George

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:38 AM, Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...> wrote:

�

According to the Boston Herald;

http://www.bostonherald.com/blogs/sports/blitz/index.php/2012/05/24/brian-waters-absence-from-otas-is-no-big-deal/

Harry

#19505

From: George Richman <patswingr@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 4:59 am
Subject: Re: Ochocinco struggles during Pats practice

patswingr

From all that I've seen and read about his performance since he joined the team, I agree completely, Harry. I believe that our receiving corps, especially when you include our 2 All Pro level TE's, is more than deep enough without Ochocinco. But, of course, I don't pretend to have anywhere near the knowledge of skill and performance as BB. He'll make the final decision, and, at least going into the season, I'll go with it.

Based solely upon the old "on paper" analysis, I think the Patriots could set new records in passing offense this year. They are clearly capable of doing damage at all distances, as long as Brady's arm and accuracy are still there for the deep game. In the combination of Welker, Lloyd, Gaffney, Stallworth, Hernandez, Gronkowski, and possibly Gonzalez, they have all of the receiver skills covered: speed, quickness, strength, hands, and YAC ability. Truly awesome potential there! And the OL appears solid enough to give them the time to take advantage of all of it!

COME ON SEPTEMBER! GO PATS!!

- George

On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 11:41 AM, Machado.Nicholas <machado.nicholas@...> wrote:

�

Might be time to cut bait on this guy. All I've heard this week is how
bummed he is about losing his Starbucks card. Meanwhile he still doesn't
get the playbook.

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/09000d5d82952123/article/chad-ochocinco-struggles-during-pats-practice?module=HP11_headline_stack

Harry

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#19506

From: David Price <castsashadow@...>
Date: Fri May 25, 2012 12:11 pm
Subject: Re: Ochocinco struggles during Pats practice

castsashadow