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#2841 From: "Jim Leppik" <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Sat Feb 9, 2008 10:11 pm
Subject: Victorian & New South Wales state c'hips
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Event 38 Men 5000 Meter Race Walk Open
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Name Year Team Finals Points
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1 11 Erickson, Christop ATHLETICS ESSENDON 19:35.71
2 269 Cousins, Duane EAGLEHAWK 21:06.53
3 2092 Barnes, Thomas MELBOURNE UNI 21:32.93
4 1613 Bertei, Frank ANW 23:17.91
5 1938 Jamieson, Andrew OLD SCOTCH 24:07.33
6 384 Reid, Ross COL 25:40.63
7 798 Erickson, Timothy COBURG HARRIERS 27:53.12
-- 390 Keirl, Bernie DIAMOND VALLEY DNF
-- 4086 Attard, James BALLARAT HARRIERS SCR
-- 645 Delany, Liam MELBOURNE UNI SCR
Event 39 Men 5000 Meter Race Walk Under 20
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Name Year Team Finals Points
=======================================================================
Results
Event 39 Men 5000 Meter Race Walk Under 20
1 135 Cowley, Rhydian GLENHUNTLY 21:41.36
2 327 Payne, Daniel CORIO 23:55.31
3 758 Mararchi, Nicholas CORIO 25:04.37
4 2257 Elms, Jason PRESTON ATHLETICS 32:03.89
-- 113 Bryant, Kyle EAGLEHAWK SCR
Event 40 Women 5000 Meter Race Walk Open
=======================================================================
Name Year Team Finals Points
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1 2146 Wapshott, Kellie KNOX 21:46.70
2 146 Lamble, Regan ANW 24:35.90
3 7418 Bannister, Lynette TASMANIA 24:45.34
4 1988 Roseman, Justijana ATHLETICS ESSENDON 26:35.31
5 115 Boddy, Tyne CORIO 28:48.51
6 2256 Elms, Donna PRESTON ATHLETICS 33:29.69
-- 275 Russell, Yolanda GEELONG GUILD DQ IAAF RULE 203.6A
-- 8 Szirom, Megan RINGWOOD SCR
Event 41 Women 5000 Meter Race Walk Under 20
=======================================================================
Name Year Team Finals Points
=======================================================================
1 108 Rothwell, Jessica SOUTH BENDIGO 22:08.76
2 191 Burren, Amy MALVERN HARRIERS 25:46.58
3 1495 Alexander, Beth KNOX 26:18.62
4 1417 Attard, Tamara KNOX 27:14.56
-- 7441 Stigwood, Stephani SOUTH AUST. DNF

New South Wales

Event 35 Men 5000 Meter Race Walk Open
=======================================================================
State Record: S 18:51.39 21/02/1998 Nick A'Hern, NEP
Title Holder: 19:55.17 2007 Luke Adams, BAN
Name Age Team Finals Points
=======================================================================
Finals
1 Luke Adams 32 Bankstown Sp 19:38.55
2 Marc Mundell 25 South Africa 21:01.86
3 Ian Rayson 20 Mingara Athl 21:24.68
4 Daniel Coleman 19 ACT 21:37.89
5 Derek Mulhearn 18 Parramatta C 25:56.20



=======================================================================

State Record: S 20:03.00 11/02/1996 Kerry Junna-Saxby, BAL

Title Holder: 22:53.61 2007 Jane Saville, RBH

Name Age Team Finals
Points
=======================================================================
Finals

1 Jo Jackson 23 England 22:12.31
2 Natalie Saville 30 Randwick Bot 22:52.99
3 Michelle French 26 Nepean Distr 23:15.24
4 Cheryl Webb 32 Blacktown Ci 23:26.56
5 Jessica Heazlewood 21 Sydney Unive 23:33.89
6 Melissa Hayes 17 Asics Wests 24:30.38
7 Nicole Fagan 19 Sydney Pacif 24:43.83
8 Susan Knapton 21 Nepean Distr 25:33.52
9 Cassandra Staples 19 Campbelltown 26:41.26
10 Vanessa Ebejer 23 Blue Mountai 27:05.14
11 Jillian Rutter 23 Gosford Athl 28:24.89
-- Beki Lee 22 Asics Wests DQ IAAF 230

#2840 From: Andrew Jamieson <acjammo@...>
Date: Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:31 am
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 The Little's new website
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I had the opportunity to visit Gary and Asta's beautiful piece of paradise
in 2004. It is really away from everything with superb forest to explore,
lovely New Zealand birds and a truly magnificent dark night sky. I
thoroughly recommend it and of course the great hospitality. There is also
a lot else to see in northern New Zealand very well worth the journey.

Andrew Jamieson

#2839 From: "Gary Little" <garyasta@...>
Date: Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:48 pm
Subject: The Little's new website
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Hi
 
A year ago I sent you an indication that Asta and I had finally moved to the Far North and that we were to be setting up a homestay operation. Well, we have finally got our website completed and if you are interested in seeing a little more of our piece of paradise, then logon to www.foreststay.com to see what we're on about.
 
We hope that the festive season has been OK and not too taxing for you and look forward to hearing how life has been treating you.
 
Cheers
Gary and Asta

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#2838 From: Raymond Smith <judgesmith@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2008 7:35 am
Subject: Albert Park 13.01.08
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#2837 From: Tim Erickson <terick@...>
Date: Wed Jan 16, 2008 5:05 am
Subject: Key racewalking dates in Australia for 2008
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HI all

Some key dates to store away for future reference.

RWA Canberra Carnival – Queens Birthday weekend, Canberra, Sunday 8 June 2008

RWA State ChallengeSaturday 12 July 2008 (or the week before or the week after if needed)

Australian Roadwalking ChampionshipsSunday 24 August 2008 in Melbourne (venue TBA). It is envisaged at this stage that the Second RWA Carnival will be held concurrently. This was ratified at the RWA General Conference last June and once the details are sorted out with AA, I will advise further.


Kind regards

Tim
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Secretary, Victorian Race Walkers Club
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#2836 From: jim leppik <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:56 am
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 Happy new year!
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Thanks Bob, you too.
 
If she's a wealthy "feline" tell me where I can find her....lol!!!
 
That's what happens when one's types with most of a bottle of bundy in them....lol!
 
Jim

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And all the best to you Jim. 
"Proserpous", is that a wealthy feline?
Bob G

jim leppik <jamesleppik@yahoo.com> wrote:
Like to wish all our "ozwalkers" on here a very happy and proserpous
2008.
   
 Jim
 
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#2835 From: robert gardiner <rcgardiner@...>
Date: Wed Jan 2, 2008 7:07 am
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 Happy new year!
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And all the best to you Jim. 
"Proserpous", is that a wealthy feline?
Bob G

jim leppik <jamesleppik@...> wrote:
Like to wish all our "ozwalkers" on here a very happy and proserpous
2008.
   
 Jim
 
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#2834 From: jim leppik <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Mon Dec 31, 2007 2:33 pm
Subject: Happy new year!
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Like to wish all our "ozwalkers" on here a very happy and proserpous
2008.
   
 Jim
 
Ooohhh, I think I had way too much bundy!

#2833 From: Stuart Cooper <stuwalks@...>
Date: Tue Dec 25, 2007 12:45 am
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 Merry Xmas
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Thanks Jim ... same to you, and thanks also for all
the informative posts during the year. Cheers,

Stu C5


--- Jim Leppik <jamesleppik@...> wrote:

> I'd like to wish everyone in the group a Merry Xmas
> and a happy and
> prosperous New Year. Hope Santa comes down to the
> chimney for you all.
> In that case, hope you've all been good!!!
>
> Jim
>
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#2832 From: "Jim Leppik" <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Mon Dec 24, 2007 10:56 pm
Subject: Merry Xmas
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I'd like to wish everyone in the group a Merry Xmas and a happy and
prosperous New Year. Hope Santa comes down to the chimney for you all.
In that case, hope you've all been good!!!

Jim

#2831 From: robert gardiner <rcgardiner@...>
Date: Sun Dec 9, 2007 3:58 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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Well done Jane, John and Stu,
Well presented, rational, and factual arguments which should make their mark and hopefully give pause for thought before Ron Reed launches into articles based on emotion and little research, about racewalking at least.
The fact that he obviously took  the time to read and reply is to his credit and hopefully augers well for the future.
Bob Gardiner

jane saville <jsaville74@...> wrote:
Hi Everyone,
 
I sent an email to Ron Reed and he replied which was great.  But he still disagreed that race walking was competitive and I pointed out that in a lot of events at the World CHamps there were less countries competing than the walks or around the same number.  The exception was the sprints with the mens 100m having around 55 countries but well short of 200! The mens 5,000m "only" had around 26 countries!
 
I offered any assistance that he may need in the future when looking for information on race walking and he took that on board.  I extended an invitation to come and check out our Olympic Trials in February; sorry guys I completely forgot about the big 50km next weekend; I think I was too worked up.  But Ron did say he was keen to cover any race walking stories in the future so I hope you boys next week can give him something to talk about!
 
So I think Ron has been educated a little more about not only race walking but athletics and that can only be good for the sport.  The bottom line is both Kurt and Nathan are WOrld Champions and should be treated accordingly and Nathan has the brilliant World Record on top of that!
 
Cheers
Jane



To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: stuwalks@yahoo.com.au
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:48:45 +1100
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed

Hello John,

Well done on your letter to Ron Reed. I suppose some
credit is due Reed for replying to your letter - he
need not have bothered.

His reply contains (to use a metaphor from a sport he
possibly prefers) a rather juicy half-volley i.e. his
implication that athletes of 30 nations out of 200 are
incapable of providing a contest fiercely enough
contested to provide exploits of excellence and/or
heroism. I've not seen the start lists of any event
Kurt Fearnley has contested recently but I'd be
interested to see how many of the fields he entered
contained rivals from Equatorial Guinea, Burkina Faso,
Surinam or Kiribati. I'd be more certain, however,
that Fearnley faced the best wheelchair talent
available from only a relatively few countries -
countries with the drive, resources and structures to
nurture his sport at all, and develop it in depth. How
this differs in any way from Nathan Deakes confronting
the best and toughest walkers from the, again,
relatively few nations that have built depth and
strength in their racewalking programs is something
I'd like to see Ron Reed explain. Yes, it is true that
200 nations will enter for track and field in major
Games. It is also true that athletes from over half
those nations will be run out the heats, or finish at
or near the tail of the field, because conditions in
those countries do not yet make for developing T&F
talent to anywhere near world class. Numbers alone
don't make for fierce competition, Ron.

But let's allow, for argument's sake, that his concern
did lie not in kicking a racewalker yet again but in
seeing that a champion disabled athlete is given just
recognition. Followers of sport generally may not be
well-educated in any specific sporting field or genre
outside their own interest. But, thanks to the
exploits of Louise Sauvage and Fearnley himself, it's
hard to imagine that any serious sport fan - including
those in Reed's readership - would be unaware of what
is required to achieve a sporting accolade like
'disabled athlete of the year.' These athletes have to
battle, not simply the hurdles faced by any sportsman
or woman striving for the top, but also a host of
societal prejudices and attitudes which often conspire
against them taking on sport at all. These include
patronism ('I think you're so brave, having a go.'),
apathy, bureaucratic obstuctionism and ghoulish
leering ('Hey, check out the freak'.) These are huge
barriers. No sports fan worthy of the name would
consider Fearnley as 'just' the disabled one, any more
than they thought this of Sauvage. Fearnley may have
been a 'shoo-in' for his award, but only insofar as
he has no like-bodied peer in this country. Nor has
Deakes. The achievement of both men lies in what they
have attained against the best the world has to offer.
Both men tower above their sports in Australia. Both
have been justly recognised for so doing.

Stu Cooper

--- John Leydon <jleydon@kildare.adl.catholic.edu.au>
wrote:

> Dear friends of racewalking
>
> I too sent the following response to this appalling
> article by Ron Reed and include the response that I
> have just received. I find it interesting that the
> response says nothing about the significance of
> Nathan's World record - rather hard to say this is
> 'soft'. My view is the article is the work of a
> lazy journalist who didn't check his facts and wants
> to use statistics very selectively. For your
> interest the mens 100m field in Osaka had only 72
> starters (compared to 50 plus in the Walks) - well
> short of the 200 countries Ron Reed claims give
> athletics depth.
>
> My email read,
>
> Dear Ron
>
> I often read articles that I disagree with and don't
> bother to voice my opinion. However, not only do I
> disagree with your article, "Kurt's a champion in
> any field" in the Herald Sun (05/12/2007) but there
> are some very loose arguments (one even might say
> errors in fact) which should be pointed out.
>
> The walks fields in the Commonwealth Games were
> thin, as were a number of other track and field
> events - it is interesting that walking has been put
> on notice for removal from the Commonwealth Games if
> numbers do not improve, yet other events were not
> put on notice in the same way with regard to number
> of entries. Sadly I believe that part of the reason
> for various groups trying to remove the walks from
> the CG had more to do with the dominance of one
> country (Australia). Let's not forget that the
> number of athletes in Olympic swimming events was
> reduced from 3 to 2 at the time of absolute
> dominance of the East Germans (who we now know were
> often drug assisted) - they were mostly winning all
> 3 medals - particularly in the women's events.
>
> For some nations the Commonwealth Games is low down
> on their priority list. To illustrate this for some
> years now British athletes have been told results in
> the European Championships count for much more than
> the Commonwealth Games and that results from the
> European Champs will count towards selection in
> Olympic Games and World Titles - so smaller fields
> in the Commonwealth Games are understandable.
>
> However, my biggest reaction on reading your article
> is that you use the small fields in the Commonwealth
> Games to somehow imply that Nathan Deakes win in
> Osaka was second rate. This logic is confounding.
> Have you any idea of the number who started the 50
> km walk in Osaka? Was this significantly less than
> the number in the 20km field? I ask this last
> question given the implication is that the 50km walk
> event has small fields (especially over this
> distance). How many champions have we had at the
> World Athletics Championships ever?
>
> The final stain on your argument and all it implies
> is you strongly suggest that Nathan Deakes
> performances were not all that signficant ("not the
> world's most fiercely contested discipline, as we
> saw with small and undistinguished fields") is how
> does one downgrade a World record on a course in
> Geelong which had many turns and most walkers would
> not call a fast course? I ask you how many World
> record holders have Australia ever had in track and
> field and when was the last time before Nathan
> Deakes that an Australian broke a World record for a
> track and field event? Try and tell the Russians,
> Mexicans and many Europeans who take racewalking
> very seriously and have done so for many years that
> their collective historical efforts don't count,
> otherwise the World Record would be a real
> benchmark.
>
> Yours faithfully
> John Leydon
>
> and the responsse was
>
> Dear John,
> The point of the column was not to put down either
> Nathan Deakes or race walking _ and that is clearly
> stated in the 10th paragraph _ but to applaud
> Fearnley's achievements and to suggest that he
> should not be restricted in his potential to claim
> any such award.
> Track and field likes to boast _ and rightly so _
> that it is contested by virtually every country, or
> about 200. Fewer than 30 appeared on any of the
> walking start lists in Osaka. I repeat, it is not
> the world's most fiercely contested discipline _
> although, like most sporting arguments, this is
> probably a matter of perspective.
> Finally, I have nothing against walking as a sport
> (and most certainly nothing negative to say about
> Nathan deakes) and have written about it positively
> on a number of occasions. I'll happily continue to
> do that when the rare chances present themselves.
> Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome,
> whatever the tone.
> RR
>
> ________________________________
>
> ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jim leppik
> Sent: Fri 7/12/2007 12:48 AM
> To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
>
> Hi Jane,
>
> I already done it and he's replied. Told him
> everything you just said. I also sent him the IAAF
> link of the event demonstrating the 54 strong field
> in Osaka.
>
> Jim
>
> jane saville <jsaville74@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I usually don't bother writing to journalists who
> write articles with absolutely no research as it
> covers nearly all of them. But I will be writing a
> note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things. I'm
> not a big one on Statistics but I just did a quick
> 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the
> same in regards to race walking depth around the
> world. You only have to look at the World CHamps
> start list and results to see it in black and white;
>
>
> Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25
> countries with the first 3 places from Ecuador,
> Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread
> of countries in the medals and with top 10 from 9
> different .
> Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28
> countries with the top 10 from 8 different
> countries!
> Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28
> competitors with top 10 from 7 different countries!
> I have only done a rough count but you get the
> idea.
>
> As for Comm Games we all know that there is no
> depth but we all know we're not the only event to
> struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.
>
> I just get frustrated at the so called journalists
> who write supposedly "factual" stories that
> unfortunately the public read as true. It's poor
> advertising for our sport that we could do without.
> But it is a trashy tabloid so what do you expect!
>
> Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I
> know I will be probably banging my head against a
> brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.
>
> Nathan's results in the past year have been
> incredible and deserves many more accolades than he
> has received, but that is the nature of our sport.
> But hopefully with the generation of walkers coming
> through we can spread a positive message about our
> great sport.
>
> Cheers
> Jane
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> From: rcgardiner@yahoo.com.au
> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
> Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
> Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron
> Reed, not only are his articles completely deviod of
> facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some
> years ago, I later found he is also anti walking.
> How unexpected.
> bob Gardiner
>
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#2830 From: "Noela Mckinven" <noela@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 9:31 pm
Subject: All Schools U16 Boys 3000m Walk
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Proud President of the Federation, Dave Smith, was on hand to present the gold medal to his son Dane Bird-Smith for this race.  It must be genes as Dane has little experience and less walk training!  Good one Dane. 


#2829 From: "Jim Leppik" <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 10:33 am
Subject: Australian All Schools-Sydney day 3-under 15/16 3km
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                2007 Australian All Schools & Youth
Athletics
        Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre  - 6/12/2007 to
9/12/2007

Event 183  Boys 3000 metre Race Walk Under 15
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 13:57.52  2006        Sean Fitzsimons,
WA
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Blake Steele              93 SA
14:02.53
   2 Samuel Dib                94 WA
14:21.38
   3 Steven Washburn           94 NSW
14:30.02
   4 Brad Simpson              93 VIC
14:55.70
   5 Nathan Fazldad            94 NSW
15:10.24
   6 Lewis Clark               94 VIC
15:47.49
   7 Matthew Felton            94 VIC
16:39.64
   8 Daniel Crouch             94 SA
16:52.84
  -- Qadry Williams            93 QLD                         DQ
IAAF 230.1
  -- Matthew Timson            94 NSW                         DQ
IAAF 230.1



Event 184  Boys 3000 metre Race Walk Under 16
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 13:28.80  2004        Brendon Reading,
ACT
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Dane Bird-Smith           92 QLD
13:51.60
   2 Jordan Mulhearn           92 NSW
13:57.80
   3 John Tilden               92 NSW
14:38.46
   4 Brandon Dewar             92 QLD
14:49.25
   5 Nicholas Dewar            92 QLD
15:12.44
   6 John Hallam               92 QLD
15:38.67
   7 Kai Maruta                92 NSW
16:30.49
   8 Fraser Nixon              92 NSW
16:51.37
   9 Rhys Evans                92 VIC
17:40.25



Event 174  Girls 3000 metre Race Walk Under 15
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 13:50.90  2005        Paige Hooper,
SA
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Kristie Goznik            93 SA
14:40.28
   2 Amy Burren                94 VIC
14:41.26
   3 Rachel Tallent            93 VIC
15:03.02
   4 Kate Fitzsimons           93 WA
15:04.50
   5 Lauren Harrington         93 SA
15:18.34
   6 Darcy Gilroy              93 NSW
15:24.48
   7 Courtney Sorensen         93 QLD
15:37.08
   8 Krystal Leinasars         94 WA
15:43.53
   9 Tiffany D'Agnone          94 WA
15:52.84
  10 Lotta Danner              95 SA
15:56.03
  11 Alana Hewish              93 QLD
16:01.28
  12 Ebony Whiley              95 VIC
16:10.49
  13 Ebony Gralton             93 NSW
16:22.14
  14 Samara Holliday           93 SA
16:28.42
  15 Emily Payne               93 VIC
16:38.69
  16 Ebony Tallent             94 VIC
16:46.34
  -- Rachael Maher             93 QLD                         DQ
IAAF 230.1
  -- Kayla Griffiths           93 NSW                         DQ
IAAF 230.1


Event 175  Girls 3000 metre Race Walk Under 16
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 14:34.24  2004        Cassandra Staples,
NSW
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Paige Hooper              92 SA
14:36.66
   2 Josie Dwyer               92 ACT
15:22.16
   3 Beth Alexander            92 VIC
15:23.28
   4 Danielle George           92 NSW
16:18.78
   5 Ishka Flynn-Pittar*       92 QLD
16:29.39
   6 Jacqueline Smith          93 WA
16:36.50
   7 Tegan Hope                92 NSW
16:54.62
   8 Louise Richardson         90 WA
17:41.36

#2828 From: jane saville <jsaville74@...>
Date: Sat Dec 8, 2007 12:05 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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Hi Everyone,
 
I sent an email to Ron Reed and he replied which was great.  But he still disagreed that race walking was competitive and I pointed out that in a lot of events at the World CHamps there were less countries competing than the walks or around the same number.  The exception was the sprints with the mens 100m having around 55 countries but well short of 200! The mens 5,000m "only" had around 26 countries!
 
I offered any assistance that he may need in the future when looking for information on race walking and he took that on board.  I extended an invitation to come and check out our Olympic Trials in February; sorry guys I completely forgot about the big 50km next weekend; I think I was too worked up.  But Ron did say he was keen to cover any race walking stories in the future so I hope you boys next week can give him something to talk about!
 
So I think Ron has been educated a little more about not only race walking but athletics and that can only be good for the sport.  The bottom line is both Kurt and Nathan are WOrld Champions and should be treated accordingly and Nathan has the brilliant World Record on top of that!
 
Cheers
Jane



To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: stuwalks@...
Date: Fri, 7 Dec 2007 16:48:45 +1100
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed

Hello John,

Well done on your letter to Ron Reed. I suppose some
credit is due Reed for replying to your letter - he
need not have bothered.

His reply contains (to use a metaphor from a sport he
possibly prefers) a rather juicy half-volley i.e. his
implication that athletes of 30 nations out of 200 are
incapable of providing a contest fiercely enough
contested to provide exploits of excellence and/or
heroism. I've not seen the start lists of any event
Kurt Fearnley has contested recently but I'd be
interested to see how many of the fields he entered
contained rivals from Equatorial Guinea, Burkina Faso,
Surinam or Kiribati. I'd be more certain, however,
that Fearnley faced the best wheelchair talent
available from only a relatively few countries -
countries with the drive, resources and structures to
nurture his sport at all, and develop it in depth. How
this differs in any way from Nathan Deakes confronting
the best and toughest walkers from the, again,
relatively few nations that have built depth and
strength in their racewalking programs is something
I'd like to see Ron Reed explain. Yes, it is true that
200 nations will enter for track and field in major
Games. It is also true that athletes from over half
those nations will be run out the heats, or finish at
or near the tail of the field, because conditions in
those countries do not yet make for developing T&F
talent to anywhere near world class. Numbers alone
don't make for fierce competition, Ron.

But let's allow, for argument's sake, that his concern
did lie not in kicking a racewalker yet again but in
seeing that a champion disabled athlete is given just
recognition. Followers of sport generally may not be
well-educated in any specific sporting field or genre
outside their own interest. But, thanks to the
exploits of Louise Sauvage and Fearnley himself, it's
hard to imagine that any serious sport fan - including
those in Reed's readership - would be unaware of what
is required to achieve a sporting accolade like
'disabled athlete of the year.' These athletes have to
battle, not simply the hurdles faced by any sportsman
or woman striving for the top, but also a host of
societal prejudices and attitudes which often conspire
against them taking on sport at all. These include
patronism ('I think you're so brave, having a go.'),
apathy, bureaucratic obstuctionism and ghoulish
leering ('Hey, check out the freak'.) These are huge
barriers. No sports fan worthy of the name would
consider Fearnley as 'just' the disabled one, any more
than they thought this of Sauvage. Fearnley may have
been a 'shoo-in' for his award, but only insofar as
he has no like-bodied peer in this country. Nor has
Deakes. The achievement of both men lies in what they
have attained against the best the world has to offer.
Both men tower above their sports in Australia. Both
have been justly recognised for so doing.

Stu Cooper

--- John Leydon <jleydon@kildare.adl.catholic.edu.au>
wrote:

> Dear friends of racewalking
>
> I too sent the following response to this appalling
> article by Ron Reed and include the response that I
> have just received. I find it interesting that the
> response says nothing about the significance of
> Nathan's World record - rather hard to say this is
> 'soft'. My view is the article is the work of a
> lazy journalist who didn't check his facts and wants
> to use statistics very selectively. For your
> interest the mens 100m field in Osaka had only 72
> starters (compared to 50 plus in the Walks) - well
> short of the 200 countries Ron Reed claims give
> athletics depth.
>
> My email read,
>
> Dear Ron
>
> I often read articles that I disagree with and don't
> bother to voice my opinion. However, not only do I
> disagree with your article, "Kurt's a champion in
> any field" in the Herald Sun (05/12/2007) but there
> are some very loose arguments (one even might say
> errors in fact) which should be pointed out.
>
> The walks fields in the Commonwealth Games were
> thin, as were a number of other track and field
> events - it is interesting that walking has been put
> on notice for removal from the Commonwealth Games if
> numbers do not improve, yet other events were not
> put on notice in the same way with regard to number
> of entries. Sadly I believe that part of the reason
> for various groups trying to remove the walks from
> the CG had more to do with the dominance of one
> country (Australia). Let's not forget that the
> number of athletes in Olympic swimming events was
> reduced from 3 to 2 at the time of absolute
> dominance of the East Germans (who we now know were
> often drug assisted) - they were mostly winning all
> 3 medals - particularly in the women's events.
>
> For some nations the Commonwealth Games is low down
> on their priority list. To illustrate this for some
> years now British athletes have been told results in
> the European Championships count for much more than
> the Commonwealth Games and that results from the
> European Champs will count towards selection in
> Olympic Games and World Titles - so smaller fields
> in the Commonwealth Games are understandable.
>
> However, my biggest reaction on reading your article
> is that you use the small fields in the Commonwealth
> Games to somehow imply that Nathan Deakes win in
> Osaka was second rate. This logic is confounding.
> Have you any idea of the number who started the 50
> km walk in Osaka? Was this significantly less than
> the number in the 20km field? I ask this last
> question given the implication is that the 50km walk
> event has small fields (especially over this
> distance). How many champions have we had at the
> World Athletics Championships ever?
>
> The final stain on your argument and all it implies
> is you strongly suggest that Nathan Deakes
> performances were not all that signficant ("not the
> world's most fiercely contested discipline, as we
> saw with small and undistinguished fields") is how
> does one downgrade a World record on a course in
> Geelong which had many turns and most walkers would
> not call a fast course? I ask you how many World
> record holders have Australia ever had in track and
> field and when was the last time before Nathan
> Deakes that an Australian broke a World record for a
> track and field event? Try and tell the Russians,
> Mexicans and many Europeans who take racewalking
> very seriously and have done so for many years that
> their collective historical efforts don't count,
> otherwise the World Record would be a real
> benchmark.
>
> Yours faithfully
> John Leydon
>
> and the responsse was
>
> Dear John,
> The point of the column was not to put down either
> Nathan Deakes or race walking _ and that is clearly
> stated in the 10th paragraph _ but to applaud
> Fearnley's achievements and to suggest that he
> should not be restricted in his potential to claim
> any such award.
> Track and field likes to boast _ and rightly so _
> that it is contested by virtually every country, or
> about 200. Fewer than 30 appeared on any of the
> walking start lists in Osaka. I repeat, it is not
> the world's most fiercely contested discipline _
> although, like most sporting arguments, this is
> probably a matter of perspective.
> Finally, I have nothing against walking as a sport
> (and most certainly nothing negative to say about
> Nathan deakes) and have written about it positively
> on a number of occasions. I'll happily continue to
> do that when the rare chances present themselves.
> Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome,
> whatever the tone.
> RR
>
> ________________________________
>
> ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jim leppik
> Sent: Fri 7/12/2007 12:48 AM
> To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
>
> Hi Jane,
>
> I already done it and he's replied. Told him
> everything you just said. I also sent him the IAAF
> link of the event demonstrating the 54 strong field
> in Osaka.
>
> Jim
>
> jane saville <jsaville74@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I usually don't bother writing to journalists who
> write articles with absolutely no research as it
> covers nearly all of them. But I will be writing a
> note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things. I'm
> not a big one on Statistics but I just did a quick
> 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the
> same in regards to race walking depth around the
> world. You only have to look at the World CHamps
> start list and results to see it in black and white;
>
>
> Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25
> countries with the first 3 places from Ecuador,
> Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread
> of countries in the medals and with top 10 from 9
> different .
> Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28
> countries with the top 10 from 8 different
> countries!
> Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28
> competitors with top 10 from 7 different countries!
> I have only done a rough count but you get the
> idea.
>
> As for Comm Games we all know that there is no
> depth but we all know we're not the only event to
> struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.
>
> I just get frustrated at the so called journalists
> who write supposedly "factual" stories that
> unfortunately the public read as true. It's poor
> advertising for our sport that we could do without.
> But it is a trashy tabloid so what do you expect!
>
> Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I
> know I will be probably banging my head against a
> brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.
>
> Nathan's results in the past year have been
> incredible and deserves many more accolades than he
> has received, but that is the nature of our sport.
> But hopefully with the generation of walkers coming
> through we can spread a positive message about our
> great sport.
>
> Cheers
> Jane
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> From: rcgardiner@yahoo.com.au
> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
> Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
> Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron
> Reed, not only are his articles completely deviod of
> facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some
> years ago, I later found he is also anti walking.
> How unexpected.
> bob Gardiner
>
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#2827 From: "Jim Leppik" <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:59 am
Subject: Australian All Schools-Sydney day 2-under 14 1500m walk
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                2007 Australian All Schools & Youth
Athletics
        Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre  - 6/12/2007 to
9/12/2007

Event 92  Boys 1500 metre Race Walk Under 14
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 6:47.74  2004        Chase Richardson,
TAS
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Matthew Timson            94 NSW
6:43.03M
   2 Steven Washburn           94 NSW
6:44.08M
   3 Jacob Allen               94 NSW
6:44.45M
   4 Samuel Dib                94 WA
6:46.80M
   5 Brad Aiton                94 QLD
6:52.89
   6 Lewis Clark               94 VIC
7:09.16
   7 Nathan Fazldad            94 NSW
7:16.03
   8 Rhys Brett                94 WA
7:21.77
   9 Joshua Ray                94 NSW
7:23.30
  10 Peter Curtis              94 VIC
7:39.02
  11 Corey Buckler             94 QLD
7:40.22
  12 Jacob Dib                 95 WA
7:42.18
  13 Daniel Crouch             94 SA
7:50.38
  14 Brodie Nankervis          94 TAS
7:51.98
  15 Wayne Gehan               94 QLD
7:52.66
  16 Corey Littke              95 WA
8:00.89
  17 Shannon Weedon            94 TAS
8:10.12
  -- Matthew Felton            94 VIC                         DQ
IAAF 230.1


Event 90  Girls 1500 metre Race Walk Under 14
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 6:19.33  2005        Paige Hooper,
SA
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Amy Burren                94 VIC
6:51.20
   2 Ebony Whiley              95 VIC
7:04.29
   3 Amelia Finnegan           95 VIC
7:07.82
   4 Tiffany D'Agnone          94 WA
7:10.60
   5 Emma Bettiol              94 NSW
7:15.58
   6 Krystal Leinasars         94 WA
7:17.59
   7 Lotta Danner              95 SA
7:27.82
   8 Julia Dorrestyn           95 SA
7:37.47
   9 Kristel Gartner           94 NSW
7:37.84
  10 Melissa Ierace            94 WA
7:38.03
  11 Ebony Tallent             94 VIC
7:42.22
  12 Isabella Shina            95 NSW
7:46.14
  13 Kelsey Knight             94 NSW
7:50.18
  14 Ashley Albert             95 VIC
7:51.38
  15 Samantha Flood            94 NSW
7:57.10
  16 Jessica Pickles           94 QLD
8:15.04
  17 Tiani Dederer             95 NSW
8:29.41
  -- Breanne Goschnick         94 QLD                         DQ
IAAF 230.1

#2826 From: Stuart Cooper <stuwalks@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 5:48 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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Hello John,

Well done on your letter to Ron Reed. I suppose some
credit is due Reed for replying to your letter - he
need not have bothered.

His reply contains (to use a metaphor from a sport he
possibly prefers) a rather juicy half-volley i.e. his
implication that athletes of 30 nations out of 200 are
incapable of providing a contest fiercely enough
contested to provide exploits of excellence and/or
heroism. I've not seen the start lists of any event
Kurt Fearnley has contested recently but I'd be
interested to see how many of the fields he entered
contained rivals from Equatorial Guinea, Burkina Faso,
Surinam or Kiribati. I'd be more certain, however,
that Fearnley faced the best wheelchair talent
available from only a relatively few countries -
countries with the drive, resources and structures to
nurture his sport at all, and develop it in depth. How
this differs in any way from Nathan Deakes confronting
the best and toughest walkers from the, again,
relatively few nations that have built depth and
strength in their racewalking programs is something
I'd like to see Ron Reed explain. Yes, it is true that
200 nations will enter for track and field in major
Games. It is also true that athletes from over half
those nations will be run out the heats, or finish at
or near the tail of the field, because conditions in
those countries do not yet make for developing T&F
talent to anywhere near world class. Numbers alone
don't make for fierce competition, Ron.

But let's allow, for argument's sake, that his concern
did lie not in kicking a racewalker yet again but in
seeing that a champion disabled athlete is given just
recognition. Followers of sport generally may not be
well-educated in any specific sporting field or genre
outside their own interest. But, thanks to the
exploits of Louise Sauvage and Fearnley himself, it's
hard to imagine that any serious sport fan - including
  those in Reed's readership - would be unaware of what
is required to achieve a sporting accolade like
'disabled athlete of the year.' These athletes have to
battle, not simply the hurdles faced by any sportsman
or woman striving for the top, but also a host of
societal prejudices and attitudes which often conspire
against them taking on sport at all. These include
patronism ('I think you're so brave, having a go.'),
apathy, bureaucratic obstuctionism and ghoulish
leering ('Hey, check out the freak'.) These are huge
barriers. No sports fan worthy of the name would
consider Fearnley as 'just' the disabled one, any more
than they thought this of Sauvage. Fearnley may have
been a 'shoo-in'  for his award, but only insofar as
he has no like-bodied peer in this country. Nor has
Deakes. The achievement of both men lies in what they
have attained against the best the world has to offer.
Both men tower above their sports in Australia. Both
have been justly recognised for so doing.

Stu Cooper


--- John Leydon <jleydon@...>
wrote:

> Dear friends of racewalking
>
> I too sent the following response to this appalling
> article by Ron Reed and include the response that I
> have just received.  I find it interesting that the
> response says nothing about the significance of
> Nathan's World record - rather hard to say this is
> 'soft'.  My view is the article is the work of a
> lazy journalist who didn't check his facts and wants
> to use statistics very selectively.  For your
> interest the mens 100m field in Osaka had only 72
> starters (compared to 50 plus in the Walks) - well
> short of the 200 countries Ron Reed claims give
> athletics depth.
>
> My email read,
>
> Dear Ron
>
> I often read articles that I disagree with and don't
> bother to voice my opinion.  However, not only do I
> disagree with your article, "Kurt's a champion in
> any field" in the Herald Sun (05/12/2007) but there
> are some very loose arguments (one even might say
> errors in fact) which should be pointed out.
>
> The walks fields in the Commonwealth Games were
> thin, as were a number of other track and field
> events - it is interesting that walking has been put
> on notice for removal from the Commonwealth Games if
> numbers do not improve, yet other events were not
> put on notice in the same way with regard to number
> of entries.  Sadly I believe that part of the reason
> for various groups trying to remove the walks from
> the CG had more to do with the dominance of one
> country (Australia).  Let's not forget that the
> number of athletes in Olympic swimming events was
> reduced from 3 to 2 at the time of absolute
> dominance of the East Germans (who we now know were
> often drug assisted) - they were mostly winning all
> 3 medals - particularly in the women's events.
>
> For some nations the Commonwealth Games is low down
> on their priority list.  To illustrate this for some
> years now British athletes have been told results in
> the European Championships count for much more than
> the Commonwealth Games and that results from the
> European Champs will count towards selection in
> Olympic Games and World Titles - so smaller fields
> in the Commonwealth Games are understandable.
>
> However, my biggest reaction on reading your article
> is that you use the small fields in the Commonwealth
> Games to somehow imply that Nathan Deakes win in
> Osaka was second rate.  This logic is confounding.
> Have you any idea of the number who started the 50
> km walk in Osaka?  Was this significantly less than
> the number in the 20km field? I ask this last
> question given the implication is that the 50km walk
> event has small fields (especially over this
> distance).  How many champions have we had at the
> World Athletics Championships ever?
>
> The final stain on your argument and all it implies
> is you strongly suggest that Nathan Deakes
> performances were not all that signficant ("not the
> world's most fiercely contested discipline, as we
> saw with small and undistinguished fields") is how
> does one downgrade a World record on a course in
> Geelong which had many turns and most walkers would
> not call a fast course?  I ask you how many World
> record holders have Australia ever had in track and
> field and when was the last time before Nathan
> Deakes that an Australian broke a World record for a
> track and field event?  Try and tell the Russians,
> Mexicans and many Europeans who take racewalking
> very seriously and have done so for many years that
> their collective historical efforts don't count,
> otherwise the World Record would be a real
> benchmark.
>
> Yours faithfully
> John Leydon
>
> and the responsse was
>
> Dear John,
> The point of the column was not to put down either
> Nathan Deakes or race walking _ and that is clearly
> stated in the 10th paragraph _ but to applaud
> Fearnley's achievements and to suggest that he
> should not be restricted in his potential to claim
> any such award.
> Track and field likes to boast _ and rightly so _
> that it is contested by virtually every country, or
> about 200. Fewer than 30 appeared on any of the
> walking start lists in Osaka. I repeat, it is not
> the world's most fiercely contested discipline _
> although, like most sporting arguments, this is
> probably a matter of perspective.
> Finally, I have nothing against walking as a sport
> (and most certainly nothing negative to say about
> Nathan deakes) and have written about it positively
> on a number of occasions. I'll happily continue to
> do that when the rare chances present themselves.
> Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome,
> whatever the tone.
> RR
>
> ________________________________
>
> ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com on behalf of jim leppik
> Sent: Fri 7/12/2007 12:48 AM
> To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
>
> Hi Jane,
>
> I already done it and he's replied. Told him
> everything you just said. I also sent him the IAAF
> link of the event demonstrating the 54 strong field
> in Osaka.
>
> Jim
>
> jane saville <jsaville74@...> wrote:
>
>  I usually don't bother writing to journalists who
> write articles with absolutely no research as it
> covers nearly all of them.  But I will be writing a
> note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things.  I'm
> not a big one on Statistics but I just did a quick
> 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the
> same in regards to race walking depth around the
> world.  You only have to look at the World CHamps
> start list and results to see it in black and white;
>
>
>  Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25
> countries with the first 3 places from Ecuador,
> Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread
> of countries in the medals and with top 10 from 9
> different .
>  Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28
> countries with the top 10 from 8 different
> countries!
>  Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28
> competitors with top 10 from 7 different countries!
>  I have only done a rough count but you get the
> idea.
>
>  As for Comm Games we all know that there is no
> depth but we all know we're not the only event to
> struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.
>
>  I just get frustrated at the so called journalists
> who write supposedly "factual" stories that
> unfortunately the public read as true.  It's poor
> advertising for our sport that we could do without.
> But it is a trashy tabloid so what do you expect!
>
>  Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I
> know I will be probably banging my head against a
> brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.
>
>  Nathan's results in the past year have been
> incredible and deserves many more accolades than he
> has received, but that is the nature of our sport.
> But hopefully with the generation of walkers coming
> through we can spread a positive message about our
> great sport.
>
>  Cheers
>  Jane
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ________________________________
>
> 	 To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
> 	 From: rcgardiner@...
> 	 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
> 	 Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
>
>
> 	 Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron
> Reed, not only are his articles completely deviod of
> facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some
> years ago, I later found he is also anti walking.
> How unexpected.
> 	 bob Gardiner
>
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#2825 From: "John Leydon" <jleydon@...>
Date: Fri Dec 7, 2007 3:28 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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Dear friends of racewalking

I too sent the following response to this appalling article by Ron Reed and
include the response that I have just received.  I find it interesting that the
response says nothing about the significance of Nathan's World record - rather
hard to say this is 'soft'.  My view is the article is the work of a lazy
journalist who didn't check his facts and wants to use statistics very
selectively.  For your interest the mens 100m field in Osaka had only 72
starters (compared to 50 plus in the Walks) - well short of the 200 countries
Ron Reed claims give athletics depth.

My email read,

Dear Ron

I often read articles that I disagree with and don't bother to voice my opinion.
However, not only do I disagree with your article, "Kurt's a champion in any
field" in the Herald Sun (05/12/2007) but there are some very loose arguments
(one even might say errors in fact) which should be pointed out.

The walks fields in the Commonwealth Games were thin, as were a number of other
track and field events - it is interesting that walking has been put on notice
for removal from the Commonwealth Games if numbers do not improve, yet other
events were not put on notice in the same way with regard to number of entries. 
Sadly I believe that part of the reason for various groups trying to remove the
walks from the CG had more to do with the dominance of one country (Australia). 
Let's not forget that the number of athletes in Olympic swimming events was
reduced from 3 to 2 at the time of absolute dominance of the East Germans (who
we now know were often drug assisted) - they were mostly winning all 3 medals -
particularly in the women's events.

For some nations the Commonwealth Games is low down on their priority list.  To
illustrate this for some years now British athletes have been told results in
the European Championships count for much more than the Commonwealth Games and
that results from the European Champs will count towards selection in Olympic
Games and World Titles - so smaller fields in the Commonwealth Games are
understandable.

However, my biggest reaction on reading your article is that you use the small
fields in the Commonwealth Games to somehow imply that Nathan Deakes win in
Osaka was second rate.  This logic is confounding.  Have you any idea of the
number who started the 50 km walk in Osaka?  Was this significantly less than
the number in the 20km field? I ask this last question given the implication is
that the 50km walk event has small fields (especially over this distance).  How
many champions have we had at the World Athletics Championships ever?

The final stain on your argument and all it implies is you strongly suggest that
Nathan Deakes performances were not all that signficant ("not the world's most
fiercely contested discipline, as we saw with small and undistinguished fields")
is how does one downgrade a World record on a course in Geelong which had many
turns and most walkers would not call a fast course?  I ask you how many World
record holders have Australia ever had in track and field and when was the last
time before Nathan Deakes that an Australian broke a World record for a track
and field event?  Try and tell the Russians, Mexicans and many Europeans who
take racewalking very seriously and have done so for many years that their
collective historical efforts don't count, otherwise the World Record would be a
real benchmark.

Yours faithfully
John Leydon

and the responsse was

Dear John,
The point of the column was not to put down either Nathan Deakes or race walking
_ and that is clearly stated in the 10th paragraph _ but to applaud Fearnley's
achievements and to suggest that he should not be restricted in his potential to
claim any such award.
Track and field likes to boast _ and rightly so _ that it is contested by
virtually every country, or about 200. Fewer than 30 appeared on any of the
walking start lists in Osaka. I repeat, it is not the world's most fiercely
contested discipline _ although, like most sporting arguments, this is probably
a matter of perspective.
Finally, I have nothing against walking as a sport (and most certainly nothing
negative to say about Nathan deakes) and have written about it positively on a
number of occasions. I'll happily continue to do that when the rare chances
present themselves.
Thanks for the feedback. It is always welcome, whatever the tone.
RR

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Hi Jane,

I already done it and he's replied. Told him everything you just said. I also
sent him the IAAF link of the event demonstrating the 54 strong field in Osaka.

Jim

jane saville <jsaville74@...> wrote:

	 I usually don't bother writing to journalists who write articles with
absolutely no research as it covers nearly all of them.  But I will be writing a
note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things.  I'm not a big one on Statistics
but I just did a quick 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the same
in regards to race walking depth around the world.  You only have to look at the
World CHamps start list and results to see it in black and white;

	 Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25 countries with the first 3 places
from Ecuador, Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread of countries
in the medals and with top 10 from 9 different .
	 Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28 countries with the top 10 from 8
different countries!
	 Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28 competitors with top 10 from 7
different countries!
	 I have only done a rough count but you get the idea.

	 As for Comm Games we all know that there is no depth but we all know we're not
the only event to struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.

	 I just get frustrated at the so called journalists who write supposedly
"factual" stories that unfortunately the public read as true.  It's poor
advertising for our sport that we could do without.  But it is a trashy tabloid
so what do you expect!

	 Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I know I will be probably
banging my head against a brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.

	 Nathan's results in the past year have been incredible and deserves many more
accolades than he has received, but that is the nature of our sport.  But
hopefully with the generation of walkers coming through we can spread a positive
message about our great sport.

	 Cheers
	 Jane






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		 From: rcgardiner@...
		 Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
		 Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed


		 Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron Reed, not only are his
articles completely deviod of facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some
years ago, I later found he is also anti walking. How unexpected.
		 bob Gardiner

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#2824 From: jim leppik <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2007 2:18 pm
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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Hi Jane,
 
I already done it and he's replied. Told him everything you just said. I also sent him the IAAF link of the event demonstrating the 54 strong field in Osaka.
 
Jim

jane saville <jsaville74@...> wrote:
I usually don't bother writing to journalists who write articles with absolutely no research as it covers nearly all of them.  But I will be writing a note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things.  I'm not a big one on Statistics but I just did a quick 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the same in regards to race walking depth around the world.  You only have to look at the World CHamps start list and results to see it in black and white; 
 
Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25 countries with the first 3 places from Ecuador, Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread of countries in the medals and with top 10 from 9 different . 
Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28 countries with the top 10 from 8 different countries! 
Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28 competitors with top 10 from 7 different countries!
I have only done a rough count but you get the idea.
 
As for Comm Games we all know that there is no depth but we all know we're not the only event to struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.
 
I just get frustrated at the so called journalists who write supposedly "factual" stories that unfortunately the public read as true.  It's poor advertising for our sport that we could do without.  But it is a trashy tabloid so what do you expect!
 
Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I know I will be probably banging my head against a brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.
 
Nathan's results in the past year have been incredible and deserves many more accolades than he has received, but that is the nature of our sport.  But hopefully with the generation of walkers coming through we can spread a positive message about our great sport. 
 
Cheers
Jane
 


 

To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: rcgardiner@yahoo.com.au
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed

Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron Reed, not only are his articles completely deviod of facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some years ago, I later found he is also anti walking. How unexpected.
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#2823 From: "Jim Leppik" <jamesleppik@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2007 12:36 pm
Subject: Australian All Schools day 1
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              2007 Australian All Schools & Youth
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      Sydney Olympic Park Athletic Centre  - 6/12/2007 to
9/12/2007


Event 45  Girls 5000 metre Race Walk Under 17
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 23:55.30  2006        Melissa Hayes,
NSW
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Regan Lamble              91 VIC
25:02.33
   2 Kristie Goznik            93 SA
26:20.67
   3 Natalie Laurie            91 VIC
26:40.65
   4 Kate Fitzsimons           93 WA
26:59.81
   5 Samantha Tesch            91 QLD
27:01.40
   6 Niki Dryden               91 NSW
27:01.99
   7 Jessica Bennett           91 NSW
27:12.15
   8 Lauren Harrington         93 SA
28:27.77
   9 Nicole McInerney          91 SA
29:26.37
  10 Samantha Buckler          92 QLD
30:54.89
  11 Paula Venz                91 QLD
  31:53.14


Event 46  Girls 5000 metre Race Walk Under 18
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 24:24.34  2006        Jessica Rothwell,
VIC
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Melissa Hayes             91 NSW
23:27.33M
   2 Tamara Attard             90 VIC
26:19.54
   3 Gabrielle D'Agnone        90 WA
28:31.94
   4 Lauren Bourke             90 NSW
28:32.55
   5 Kimberley Smith           90 WA
29:58.86
   6 Louise Richardson         90 WA
32:38.10
  -- Steph Stigwood            90 SA
DNF
  -- Paige Hooper              92 SA                          DQ
IAAF 230.1


Event 37  Boys 5000 metre Road Walk Under 17
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 22:15.13  2006        Brook Keys,
NSW
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Rhydian Cowley            91 VIC
23:08.55
   2 Kyle Malone               91 NSW
23:36.54
   3 Christopher Tilley        91 VIC
25:17.04
   4 Shaun Ninyo               91 NSW
26:01.97
   5 John Hallam               92 QLD
26:56.57
   6 Bobby Malcomson           91 TAS
26:58.27
   7 Nicholas Dewar            92 QLD
27:16.61
   8 Brandon Dewar             92 QLD
27:20.33
   9 Brad Simpson              93 VIC
27:27.82
  10 Adam Toms                 91 NSW
27:59.27
  11 Filip Cosic               92 VIC
28:58.18
  -- Nathan Jones              91 NSW                         DQ
IAAF 230.1



Event 38  Boys 5000 metre Road Walk Under 18
======================================================================
=
         Meet: M 22:07.83  2006        Daniel Coleman,
TAS
     Name                    Year Team                    Finals
Points
======================================================================
=
Finals

   1 Brook Keys                90 NSW
23:07.15
   2 Daniel Payne              90 VIC
24:18.52
   3 Jared Loi                 90 QLD
24:36.45
   4 Derek Mulhearn            90 NSW
25:08.08
   5 Michael Reading           90 ACT
25:29.47
   6 Jonathon Birt             90 QLD
26:04.76
   7 Tim Jenyns                90 WA
26:09.25
   8 James Frank Pisani        90 NSW                   27:12.37

#2822 From: jane saville <jsaville74@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2007 12:04 pm
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Ron Reed
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I usually don't bother writing to journalists who write articles with absolutely no research as it covers nearly all of them.  But I will be writing a note to Mr Reed and just explain a few things.  I'm not a big one on Statistics but I just did a quick 10 minute check and I will be suggesting he do the same in regards to race walking depth around the world.  You only have to look at the World CHamps start list and results to see it in black and white; 
 
Mens 20km had 42 competitors from at least 25 countries with the first 3 places from Ecuador, Spain and Tunisia, not many events have that spread of countries in the medals and with top 10 from 9 different . 
Mens 50km walk: about 54 competitors from 28 countries with the top 10 from 8 different countries! 
Womens 20km walk: about 42 competitors from 28 competitors with top 10 from 7 different countries!
I have only done a rough count but you get the idea.
 
As for Comm Games we all know that there is no depth but we all know we're not the only event to struggle with numbers and we're going to work on it.
 
I just get frustrated at the so called journalists who write supposedly "factual" stories that unfortunately the public read as true.  It's poor advertising for our sport that we could do without.  But it is a trashy tabloid so what do you expect!
 
Anyway I will explain that to Mr Reed even though I know I will be probably banging my head against a brick wall but I need to vent my frustration.
 
Nathan's results in the past year have been incredible and deserves many more accolades than he has received, but that is the nature of our sport.  But hopefully with the generation of walkers coming through we can spread a positive message about our great sport. 
 
Cheers
Jane
 


 

To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: rcgardiner@...
Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2007 23:29:46 -0800
Subject: ozwalker02 Ron Reed

Russ, that's about what I would expect from Ron Reed, not only are his articles completely deviod of facts, he is a moron. Having discovered that some years ago, I later found he is also anti walking. How unexpected.
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#2821 From: robert gardiner <rcgardiner@...>
Date: Thu Dec 6, 2007 7:29 am
Subject: Ron Reed
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#2820 From: "russdickenson" <archetypecon@...>
Date: Wed Dec 5, 2007 6:40 am
Subject: Are you saying racewalking/Nathan gets too many accolades ?
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How about this article by Ron Reed in today's Herald Sun.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,22871721-5000117,00.html

While arguing for more recognition for a tremendous wheelchair
athlete, the only sport and athlete Ron can think of to grab some
space off is racewalking and Nathan Deakes. Yes Ron, the media has
really gone overboard about Nathan's achievements in the last 12
months. While we're at it, let's draw the conclusion that because the
Aussie's dominated the walks at the Commonwealth Games that the events
at Osaka weren't fiercely contested.

Maybe Ron's paper could give us a little less Anthony Mundine and Ben
Cousins if they want to publicise the fabulous exploits of Kurt
Fearnley.

  Regards Russ

#2819 From: jane saville <jsaville74@...>
Date: Sun Dec 2, 2007 9:19 pm
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 Canberra Walks course
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Hi Lachlan,
 
Overseas we race on a variety of surfaces from concrete and bitumen to cobbles.  I haven't had any problems with concrete but old cobbles can be difficult to keep a rhythm, but we don't have to worry about that here.  I think as long as the surface is ok in both dry and wet conditions i.e. not slippery and is a smooth (not uneven cobbles) it shouldn't be too much of a problem.  Maybe some of the walkers in Canberra could give some more feedback especially if they can check out the material already laid forecourt of the Treasury Building.
 
Cheers
Jane



To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: wilkopaddles@...
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2007 21:10:15 +1100
Subject: ozwalker02 Canberra Walks course

Fellow walkers

Some of you may have raced over the course we use near the Carillion on Lake Burley Griffin for A Series and other championship events. This has been widely regarded as a good fast course for qualifying but does suffer from tight turn-arounds. There is some good news on that front. The National Capital Authority plan to upgrade the recreational path along the edge of Lake Burley Griffin between the Kings Avenue and Commonwealth Avenue bridges. You can find more details at http://www.parklands.nationalcapital.gov.au/rgmenzies.asp  They intend to turn it into a 4.5m walkway, which is about twice the current width. So, if we run our course in the opposite direction from the Carillion (towards Commonwealth Avenue), we will have a nice wide path with decent turn-arounds, and it will be dead flat.

 

Now for the catch. The surface proposed is concrete with small inlaid stones. This gives a coarse textured, rather than rough, finish. For those in Canberra, you can see the proposed material in the forecourt of the Treasury Building fronting King Edward Terrace. One good thing about it is that it gives good grip in the rain – I tried it a few mornings ago. My concern, however, is the speed of the surface. We want to provide a course that gives walkers the best chance of posting a good time and I’m not sure that this will be as good as bitumen. I have raced on both but my times aren’t consistent enough to compare. For those of you either in or closer to the elite category, what’s your experience of concrete vs bitumen? The National Capital Authority has rejected bitumen as they want to provide a ‘high quality finish’. Does anyone have any views on an alternative surface that will look good but also be fast?

 

I would be grateful for any comments by the first week of December so that we can provide a submission during the public comment period. The plan is to have the path completed by Christmas next year so it should be ready for A Series (or whatever it’s called that year) in 2009.

 

Regards

Lachlan Wilkinson

President – ACT Race & Fitness Walking Club


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#2818 From: <ercattermole@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:59 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!
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Oh Dear!

Thanks for the information guys.

Unfortunately, due to WA not knowing this, it appears that a couple of our
walkers will have to cancel their frequent flyers to Qld and lose 5000 points,
thus now, do not have enough points to change to Victoria.........If you have
frequent flyers then you know you have to book very early to get a decent flight
hence........
Very, very frustrating.

Rick (RWCWA)



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> The 20km races are on February 23rd in Melbourne, due to trying to get
condusive conditions for fast times and also a decent course.
>
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2007 13:11:02 +1100Subject: RE: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals
2008!
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>
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> From what I am aware the walk nationals will be held a week before in
Melbourne on the 23rd February at Albert Park.  I'm not sure of the reasoning
behind this, maybe because of the course & hot weather in Brisbane at the
nationals earlier this year.  Nat
>
>
> To: ozwalker02@...: ercattermole@...: Thu, 29 Nov
2007 01:26:44 +0000Subject: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!
>
>
> Just heard some rather disturbing news.It appears that NO walks are at the
present time, scheduled for the Australian nationals in Brisbane next year!!Can
anyone shed any light on this??Rick
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#2817 From: megan peters <meganpeters77@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:27 am
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The 20km races are on February 23rd in Melbourne, due to trying to get condusive conditions for fast times and also a decent course.
 
Megan



To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: natsaville@...
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 13:11:02 +1100
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!

From what I am aware the walk nationals will be held a week before in Melbourne on the 23rd February at Albert Park.  I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this, maybe because of the course & hot weather in Brisbane at the nationals earlier this year.
 
Nat




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From: ercattermole@bigpond.com
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:26:44 +0000
Subject: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!

Just heard some rather disturbing news.
It appears that NO walks are at the present time, scheduled for the
Australian nationals in Brisbane next year!!

Can anyone shed any light on this??

Rick




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#2816 From: Natalie Saville <natsaville@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:11 am
Subject: RE: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!
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From what I am aware the walk nationals will be held a week before in Melbourne on the 23rd February at Albert Park.  I'm not sure of the reasoning behind this, maybe because of the course & hot weather in Brisbane at the nationals earlier this year.
 
Nat




To: ozwalker02@yahoogroups.com
From: ercattermole@...
Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2007 01:26:44 +0000
Subject: ozwalker02 No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!

Just heard some rather disturbing news.
It appears that NO walks are at the present time, scheduled for the
Australian nationals in Brisbane next year!!

Can anyone shed any light on this??

Rick




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#2815 From: "racewalkrick" <ercattermole@...>
Date: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:26 am
Subject: No Walks at the Brisbane Nationals 2008!
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Just heard some rather disturbing news.
It appears that NO walks are at the present time, scheduled for the
Australian nationals in Brisbane next year!!

Can anyone shed any light on this??

Rick

#2814 From: jennierutter <jennierutter@...>
Date: Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:09 pm
Subject: Re: ozwalker02 Canberra Walks course
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Hi Lachlan,

With regards the new surface at the Carillion.
In Sydney we have a few competitions on concrete.
Each time we do we have a number of complaints about the surface being too hard
and causing shin soreness.

Jennie Rutter



---- Wilkinsons <wilkopaddles@...> wrote:
> Fellow walkers
>
> Some of you may have raced over the course we use near the Carillion on Lake
> Burley Griffin for A Series and other championship events. This has been
> widely regarded as a good fast course for qualifying but does suffer from
> tight turn-arounds. There is some good news on that front. The National
> Capital Authority plan to upgrade the recreational path along the edge of
> Lake Burley Griffin between the Kings Avenue and Commonwealth Avenue
> bridges. You can find more details at HYPERLINK
> "http://www.parklands.nationalcapital.gov.au/rgmenzies.asp"http://www.parkla
> nds.nationalcapital.gov.au/rgmenzies.asp  They intend to turn it into a 4.5m
> walkway, which is about twice the current width. So, if we run our course in
> the opposite direction from the Carillion (towards Commonwealth Avenue), we
> will have a nice wide path with decent turn-arounds, and it will be dead
> flat.
>
>
>
> Now for the catch. The surface proposed is concrete with small inlaid
> stones. This gives a coarse textured, rather than rough, finish. For those
> in Canberra, you can see the proposed material in the forecourt of the
> Treasury Building fronting King Edward Terrace. One good thing about it is
> that it gives good grip in the rain – I tried it a few mornings ago. My
> concern, however, is the speed of the surface. We want to provide a course
> that gives walkers the best chance of posting a good time and I’m not sure
> that this will be as good as bitumen. I have raced on both but my times
> aren’t consistent enough to compare. For those of you either in or closer to
> the elite category, what’s your experience of concrete vs bitumen? The
> National Capital Authority has rejected bitumen as they want to provide a
> ‘high quality finish’. Does anyone have any views on an alternative
surface
> that will look good but also be fast?
>
>
>
> I would be grateful for any comments by the first week of December so that
> we can provide a submission during the public comment period. The plan is to
> have the path completed by Christmas next year so it should be ready for A
> Series (or whatever it’s called that year) in 2009.
>
>
>
> Regards
>
> Lachlan Wilkinson
>
> President – ACT Race & Fitness Walking Club
>
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#2812 From: "Wilkinsons" <wilkopaddles@...>
Date: Tue Nov 27, 2007 10:10 am
Subject: Canberra Walks course
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Fellow walkers

Some of you may have raced over the course we use near the Carillion on Lake Burley Griffin for A Series and other championship events. This has been widely regarded as a good fast course for qualifying but does suffer from tight turn-arounds. There is some good news on that front. The National Capital Authority plan to upgrade the recreational path along the edge of Lake Burley Griffin between the Kings Avenue and Commonwealth Avenue bridges. You can find more details at http://www.parklands.nationalcapital.gov.au/rgmenzies.asp  They intend to turn it into a 4.5m walkway, which is about twice the current width. So, if we run our course in the opposite direction from the Carillion (towards Commonwealth Avenue), we will have a nice wide path with decent turn-arounds, and it will be dead flat.

 

Now for the catch. The surface proposed is concrete with small inlaid stones. This gives a coarse textured, rather than rough, finish. For those in Canberra, you can see the proposed material in the forecourt of the Treasury Building fronting King Edward Terrace. One good thing about it is that it gives good grip in the rain – I tried it a few mornings ago. My concern, however, is the speed of the surface. We want to provide a course that gives walkers the best chance of posting a good time and I’m not sure that this will be as good as bitumen. I have raced on both but my times aren’t consistent enough to compare. For those of you either in or closer to the elite category, what’s your experience of concrete vs bitumen? The National Capital Authority has rejected bitumen as they want to provide a ‘high quality finish’. Does anyone have any views on an alternative surface that will look good but also be fast?

 

I would be grateful for any comments by the first week of December so that we can provide a submission during the public comment period. The plan is to have the path completed by Christmas next year so it should be ready for A Series (or whatever it’s called that year) in 2009.

 

Regards

Lachlan Wilkinson

President – ACT Race & Fitness Walking Club


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