John
how do I get that chat line :).
A marital endurance is probably more rewarding??????? I hope!COngrats
peace
DOm
--- In ous-l@y..., ultrarunnersarenever@h... wrote:
> Doug, do you prefer running or marital endurance events?
> Congratulations.
>
> Scott
>
>
> --- In ous-l@y..., canadianultrarunner@y... wrote:
> > Congratulations to Doug and Joanne,
> > Did you get buckles or do you have to wait for your 100th?
> > Also thanks to Esmond as his link works. I've tried repeatedly
> > joining this ous list via regulat Yahoo with zero success. I
> > apologise for the name but I was running out of ideas for things
> I'd
> > remember!
> > TTFN
> > John
> > PS There's a chat line Dom!
> > "There seemed to be endless obstacles . . . it seemed that the
root
> > cause of them all was fear." --Joanna Field

Doug, do you prefer running or marital endurance events?
Congratulations.

Scott


--- In ous-l@y..., canadianultrarunner@y... wrote:
> Congratulations to Doug and Joanne,
> Did you get buckles or do you have to wait for your 100th?
> Also thanks to Esmond as his link works. I've tried repeatedly
> joining this ous list via regulat Yahoo with zero success. I
> apologise for the name but I was running out of ideas for things
I'd
> remember!
> TTFN
> John
> PS There's a chat line Dom!
> "There seemed to be endless obstacles . . . it seemed that the root
> cause of them all was fear." --Joanna Field

Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the
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Thanks!

Congratulations to Doug and Joanne,
Did you get buckles or do you have to wait for your 100th?
Also thanks to Esmond as his link works. I've tried repeatedly
joining this ous list via regulat Yahoo with zero success. I
apologise for the name but I was running out of ideas for things I'd
remember!
TTFN
John
PS There's a chat line Dom!
"There seemed to be endless obstacles . . . it seemed that the root
cause of them all was fear." --Joanna Field

Wow, very cool!  Congratulations Doug and Joanne!  Wishing you another 30
years together :)  All the best, Monica
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Subject: OUS-l: also an endurance event


> Congratulations to Doug and Joanne Barber who are celebrating their 30th
wedding
> anniversary today!
>
> Esmond
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Congratulations to Doug and Joanne Barber who are celebrating their 30th wedding
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From: john remington

To: OUS-L@...

Sent: Monday, July 09, 2001 10:19 PM

Subject: OUS-l: yahoo zero for me

HI All,
I have repeatedly joined and rejoined Yahoo but I cannot access any posts or
post so I will give up and send out individual e mails once the ous-l
address fails.
Cheers,
John

> I have repeatedly joined and rejoined Yahoo but I cannot access any posts or
> post

Make sure your browser accepts and returns "cookies" to Yahoo. Without them
you may have trouble, although at the moment everything is wide open, so
anyone can post and anyone can read, as far as I'm aware. I'll leave it
like that until someone abuses it, or it appears unnecessarily risky.

> give up and send out individual e mails once the ous-l address fails.

It won't fail for the forseeable future. I'll just leave the list with one
member, that being Yahoo.

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HI All,
I have repeatedly joined and rejoined Yahoo but I cannot access any posts or
post so I will give up and send out individual e mails once the ous-l
address fails.
Cheers,
John
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--- Dudes
Vermont will be good, I just want to finish. George Sarson is a
machine, and if racing flats work for him, albeit, people are
obviously a lot tougher than me!
My foot has been sore, and not run since Mohican, just riding. I
think that would be advice John R would give me, and he is a bloody
good bloke.
Cheers
Dom

In ous-l@y..., "Scott Myers" <owner-ous-l@s...> wrote:
> Watch for the Canadian contingent.  Monica Scholz will be better
rested than
> usual (a whole month without a 100 miler), and Dom Repta was just
warming up
> when he placed 4th at Mohican!  Other Canadians to watch are
Hardrock
> finisher Colin Kingsford, Peter Suomela who already has a MMT 100
under his
> belt this year and Helen Malmberg who finished her 1st 100 at
Umstead 2001
> and is back for more.
>
> Scott
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <JLUGIANO@a...>
> To: <ultra@L...>
> Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 3:32 PM
> Subject: Vermont 100 Predictions???
>
>
> > OK, gang.  Based on the predicting that went on before WS, I'm
sure the
> > appetites have been whetted, and the predictions honed for
Vermont.
> >
> > Anybody want to take a shot at it?  See the Vermont100.com
website for the
> > current entry list.
> >
> > I spoke to Priscilla Tucker the Race Director today.  There are
270 on the
> > list and they have limited it to 300.  Weather has been up and
down with
> some
> > days in the 60's and some in the 80's.  Hopefully this will be a
good
> year.
> > The trails are in good shape.  We'll see what race day brings.
> >
> > Best regards to everyone who is running.  We'll see you there.
> >
> > Joe Lugiano
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Watch for the Canadian contingent.  Monica Scholz will be better rested than
usual (a whole month without a 100 miler), and Dom Repta was just warming up
when he placed 4th at Mohican!  Other Canadians to watch are Hardrock
finisher Colin Kingsford, Peter Suomela who already has a MMT 100 under his
belt this year and Helen Malmberg who finished her 1st 100 at Umstead 2001
and is back for more.

Scott

----- Original Message -----
From: <JLUGIANO@...>
To: <ultra@...>
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 3:32 PM
Subject: Vermont 100 Predictions???


> OK, gang.  Based on the predicting that went on before WS, I'm sure the
> appetites have been whetted, and the predictions honed for Vermont.
>
> Anybody want to take a shot at it?  See the Vermont100.com website for the
> current entry list.
>
> I spoke to Priscilla Tucker the Race Director today.  There are 270 on the
> list and they have limited it to 300.  Weather has been up and down with
some
> days in the 60's and some in the 80's.  Hopefully this will be a good
year.
> The trails are in good shape.  We'll see what race day brings.
>
> Best regards to everyone who is running.  We'll see you there.
>
> Joe Lugiano


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Just testing!!1

Hi All,
I will jump in here in support of Naeem and the racing flat thing.
Initially when I met Naeem I disagreed with his choice of shoes and I still
believe racing flats are a bad choice for trails rugged or not. Now George
Sarson would disagree with me if he was aware of this because he uses racing
flats on trails. He believes they let him "feel" the rocks and he bounces
along.
Since those conversations I do now believe the problems with asphalt running
are running too fast; running too long; not changing shoes. At Kingston I
used the NB 829 which is a stripped down trainer. They worked fine until my
toes blistered which is because the shoes don't fit as they should due to my
arch problems. I have done a few marathons in racing flats with no problems.
If you train in flats race in them.
Now trails I have to still disagree with George. The added bumper on the toe
box is vital as is the beefed up grips. Also landing on rocks and twigs in
flats cause bruising to my soles.
So what I hear you ask? Just felt guilty because I originally held Naeem to
task for racing flats in his first ultra. Thank goodness he didn't listen to
me but kept experimenting. Also I did a three hour treadmill workout
yesterday with no music and no breaks so my mind has gone into UltraHell.
Au Revoir,
Juan

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Hi John & others,

I am also weary about attachments.  If its an .exe I'll never open it.
.Jpg, .tif, .doc, .xls etc I'll open if I trust the source & the filename
makes sense.  If there's any doubt I delete.  Better to miss a joke than get
a virus.  Resisting the temptation to create more work for Esmond, I have
followed his advice and posted the pics at YahooGroups
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ous-l/files/.

Hope you enjoy the pics.

Scott


----- Original Message -----
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To: <OUS-L@...>
Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 11:23 AM
Subject: Re: OUS-l: Re: WS photos


> Hi Gang,
> I'd like to see the photos but I don't want people to start sending me
> attachments.
> Anything with an attachment sent to the list I delete (viruses!)
> Could the pics go to the OUSER?
> Also if any one is doing the Indy 5k Sunday in TO we will see you there!
> Cheers,
> John and Leslie
>
> "Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your
strengths.
> When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is
> strength."
> --Arnold Schwarzenegger
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Hi gang

I'm off on vacation for three weeks starting in 30 minutes.

We are doing the train trip from Toronto ( via Brockville )
to Vancouver. will then ferry over to Victoria and explore
Vancouver Island for about a week. I think I can find a few
hills over there to run on to get me ready for Haliburton.

On our train trip back we make a three day stopover in Edmonton
to let the kids run around that big mall.

If the train is going 80km per hour and I run on the spot for
one hour can I log an 80km run ?

Take care.
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Gooday Jim, Dom and other sublime warriors,

I love to run on horse trails in Decatur and even over boulders in Austin
with my trusted New Balance 903 Trail Whackers. But when it comes to a road
race like the Austin Motorola Marathon, I witnessed that I can racewalk
faster than I can run on a hard smooth asphalt surface, and sustain no
injury or pain from pounding.

"Experience is not WHAT happens to you, it's what you DO with what happens
to you". After the experience in Austin Marathon I always approach roadraces
with worldclass racewalking technique taught by Dave McGovern. A technique
when mastered, will let my legs deliver a Marathon time of 3:45 god willing.
This technique relies heavily on my contact with the road directly beneath
my feet. Worldclass performance and speed can be acieved by having a
flexible sole that is very flat and very thin. Hence my choice of the Nike
Air Streak II racing flats.

Alhamdulillah my bones or ligaments did not sustain any injury at all. Just
my hamstrings complained, but they were already tight before I started
anyways. Although this was my first 100km, I was confident to do it in sub
14 hours - next year inshallah - maybe even Dave McGovern will join me, he
has no excuse. He will only join me for Comrades in South Africa when the
temperature in Hades can sustain water in a solid state.

Cheers,

Naeem


"There is nothing like returning to a place that remains unchanged to find
the ways in which you yourself have altered." -Nelson Mandela

"It is not because things are difficult that we do not dare; it is because
we do not dare that they are difficult."  -Seneca



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Reply-To: OUS-L@...
To: OUS-L@...
Subject: Re: OUS-l: Niagara Ultras 2001
Date: Wed, 04 Jul 2001 15:34:27 -0400

Naeem,
              Congratulations on your completion of the first Comrades
Niagara 89.6 km.
I enjoyed reading your race report.  Race flats ?  What were you were
thinking ?
Congratulations on your determination.

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>Hi Gang,
>I'd like to see the photos but I don't want people to start sending me
>attachments.
>Anything with an attachment sent to the list I delete (viruses!)
>Could the pics go to the OUSER?

They could, but that means more work for me!
The simpler way is what I described earlier this morning - storing them in the
files section of yahoogroups website.

I tried it out and it works great.  But before you can use this service of
YahooGroups
you have to join up.

There is a button on http://ous.kw.net that links you to the form for joining.


edm

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Hi Gang,
I'd like to see the photos but I don't want people to start sending me
attachments.
Anything with an attachment sent to the list I delete (viruses!)
Could the pics go to the OUSER?
Also if any one is doing the Indy 5k Sunday in TO we will see you there!
Cheers,
John and Leslie

"Strength does not come from winning. Your struggles develop your strengths.
When you go through hardships and decide not to surrender, that is
strength."
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Here is a good reason to use the new yahoogroups list!
The existing mailing list does not allow attachments to be sent with messages.

Yahoogroups does allow it but it may not be a good idea because many people
do not want their mailboxes to get filled up with unnecessary files.
Instead what Scott can do is go to the Yahoogroups website for ous-l and put
the pictures in the file storage area.  Then anybody who wants to look at them
can go there and download them.

Another advantage of using Yahoogroups is that instead of (or in addition to)
reading messages by e-mail or e-mail digest you can read them on the web.  The
messages are archived there.

To make it easy for people to join I will have a simple form set up on the OUSer
in a day or two.

edm

>Hi Scott!
>
>I'd love to see the photos but they weren't attached?!  Can you resend them>?

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Myers

To: Scott Myers ; OUS-L@...

Cc: Geoff Sheppard ; Derek Lynn ; Marnie Lynn ; Laurie Myers ; Joseph Hewitt ; Les Michalak ; Oakville Running Room

Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 2:04 AM

Subject: OUS-l: Re: WS photos

Reference photo 1:  At least I thought I was smarter by the end cuz I posted a photo of the end that I thought was a photo of the start, proving I am perhaps less smart having run WS.

----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Myers

To: OUS-L@...

Cc: Geoff Sheppard ; Derek Lynn ; Marnie Lynn ; Laurie Myers ; Joseph Hewitt ; Les Michalak ; Oakville Running Room

Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:37 AM

Subject: WS photos

Not that anyone is interested anymore, but I'm going to attempt to attach a few snaps to this email. 

 

1.  Me at the start looking fresh & stupid.  I look much wiser by the end. 

2.  Monica ripping up the trails - and she's only building speed at this point!

3.  Me at Robinson Flat (50 K) and looking cranky already!

4.  Monica looking somehow much more showered than I.  Notice my wife Laurie in a position of worship of Monica's sub-24.

 

Hope this doesn't take too long for you dial-up types to load.  Sorry if it does.

Scott

----- Original Message -----

From: Scott Myers

To: OUS-L@...

Cc: Geoff Sheppard ; Derek Lynn ; Marnie Lynn ; Laurie Myers ; Joseph Hewitt ; Les Michalak ; Oakville Running Room

Sent: Friday, July 06, 2001 12:37 AM

Subject: WS photos

Not that anyone is interested anymore, but I'm going to attempt to attach a few snaps to this email. 

 

1.  Me at the start looking fresh & stupid.  I look much wiser by the end. 

2.  Monica ripping up the trails - and she's only building speed at this point!

3.  Me at Robinson Flat (50 K) and looking cranky already!

4.  Monica looking somehow much more showered than I.  Notice my wife Laurie in a position of worship of Monica's sub-24.

 

Hope this doesn't take too long for you dial-up types to load.  Sorry if it does.

Scott

Hi Jim,

I'm testing too.

Scott

Testing my new Yahoo OUS subscription.  The airwaves have been silent.
I can't wait any longer. I'll be camping for a little bit now.  See
everyone at
Damn Tuff.

Jim.

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Hi Gile, I'm testing out my new group subsription through Yahoo.
I'm not sure what I actual just did but somehow I think I have
linked a new yahoo name to my work email name.  I will unsubsribe
my previous ous subsription after I know this works.  Thanks for
all your work past, present and future on the OUS site.

Jim.

Folks,

Following the advice of someone on the OUS list (thanks, you know who you are!)
I am considering moving the OUS-l mailing list over to Yahoo Groups. See
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ous-l. I no longer have the time, energy, and
perhaps soon the resources to manage this list, and it looks as though the
Yahoo stuff can do a better job than I.

So, I have subscribed ous-l@yahoogroups.com to our current list, which
means that mail to the current list will also go there. So please take a
look and decide wether you like it. If you do please subscribe there and
unsubscribe from the current list (send a message to majordomo@...
with the single line `unsubscribe ous-l' in it). I'm tempted to just mass
subscribe everybody, but you may not like that, and at least if you do it
yourselves the dead e-mail addresses in the current list are dropped.

Submissions to ous-l@... will still be distributed as normal as well
as going to Yahoo. Submissions to ous-l@yahoogroups.com however will go
only there. So we should keep using the current address for the forseeable
future if we do this switch. I can arrange for such mail to be forwarded
for the forseeable future.

Thanks, and let's hear what you think.

gdm

Just an initial test message, as I wonder just how much spam this will
generate.

For more information about us go to http://ous.kw.net

gdm