I think you will find that the correct spelling of the Australian who
signed for Glasgow White City was Arthur Malm who, at 18, was
described as 'another Graham Warren', but it never really happened. He
landed his contract after only six weeks racing experience at Sydney.
In 1953 he is recorded as scoring one point for White City and
thereafter appears to have dropped off the radar.
John Chaplin

http://www.speedwayatoz.co.uk

Thanks for the answer re Tom O'Connor. It makes it very clear that in no way did
Tom O'Connor have any link to the Irish track at Santry in the 1940s. That wins
me a pint!

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "matt" <mattjackson68@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
> www.speedwayatoz.co.uk
>
>
>
> O'CONNOR, Thomas Patrick (Tom)
>
> Born: July 31, 1929, Fulham, London, England.*
>
> A loyal one track rider who spent five years with the Rayleigh `Rockets', Tom
was an integral part of the side that won successive Southern League titles in
1952 and 1953. Whilst riders like Jack Unstead and Gerald Jackson grabbed much
of the headlines at The Weir, Tom quietly amassed his points and was one of
those middle order riders who are essential to a successful side.
>
> After taking a season to cement his place as a team regular, Tom went from
strength to strength and had a fantastic year in 1952 when he averaged over
eight points per match. In 1954 he rode at Second Division level for the
'Rockets' but an injury hit season saw his average slip to below the six points
per match figure for the first time since his debut campaign and he retired at
the end of the year to set up a haulage business.
>
> Year Club   Division M R P BP TP CMA FM PM
> 1950 Rayleigh  NL3 25 68 60 8 68 4.00 - -
> 1951 Rayleigh NL3 39 154 260 39 299 7.77 3 2
> 1952 Rayleigh SL 41 165 280 52 332 8.05 - 2
> 1953 Rayleigh SL 31 127 204 41 245 7.72 - 2
> 1954 Rayleigh NL2 11 44 51 9 60 5.45 - -
>
> Team Honours: Southern League Championship winner 1952, 1953.
>
> --- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "lastlap66" <lastlap66@> wrote:
> >
> > According to a pal, I understand that Tom O'Connor cane to England from the
Irish track Santry in the late 1940s and then rode for West Ham. Is more known
about his career in the UK.
> >
>

Thanks for the information. It was a news item on page 34 of 'Speedway Star'
November 21 2009. The par re Max Grosskreutz says - "Max, who died in 1990,
was..."
I am pleased to clarify this matter.
speedstox12,
moderator,
oldtimespeedway

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "step66dude" <stvmagro@...> wrote:
>
> I am interested to know where this incorrect info came from. I interviewed
Ellen and Max in December 1993 and he died in October 1994. I was at his
funeral, a great but humble man.
>   Steve
>
> --- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, John Hyam <speedstox12@> wrote:
> > Subject: Re: ELLEN GROSSKREUTZ
> Ellen Grosskreutz, wife of the renowned Australian star and pre-war Norwich
promoter Max Grosskreutz, died on November 8, 2009, aged 102 years.
> Pre-war, Max rode for Lea Bridge and Belle Vue, and in 1947 and 1948 for
Bradford. He was capped 41 times for Australia. Max died in 1990.
>

Ermolenko to take charge at Leicester Speedway

The long awaited arrival of speedway in Leicester next year will be masterminded
by Sam Ermolenko, a former world champion and multi World Team Cup gold medal
winner. The 48 year old from Californian will lead the Lions into a new era in
March 2010 when the sport returns after a gap of twenty-seven years. Ermolenko
was introduced to a large gathering of speedway fans on Saturday evening at a
Leicester Speedway Supporters Club event and received an enthusiastic welcome to
the news of his appointment.

The Lions will race at a new £4.5m purpose built sports complex in Beaumont
Leys. Construction of the speedway stadium is due to begin shortly, to be
completed in readiness for the Leicester Lions to take their place in the
British Premier League next March.

Ermolenko is an advocate of creating opportunities for new entrants into the
sport and said: "my vision is to provide a place for people to learn the
rudiments of the sport at grass roots level and so provide a springboard for the
next generation of household names".

Such is his commitment to creating a learning culture that Sam is in discussions
with the Auto-Cycle Union, a governing body for motorcycle sport, for the new
Leicester stadium to become a recognised national training centre for speedway
riders.

Shrewd

Ermolenko comes with a vast depth of knowledge, having first raced in the UK in
1983. After a short spell at Poole he transferred to Wolverhampton, leading the
club to their first British League title. Sam also gained league championships
with Bydgoszcz (Poland) and Valsarna (Sweden) and is regarded as one of the most
influential captains of his era. He was also elected `Rider Representative' by
his peers and his passion for improving safety led to innovative design
modifications to speedway bikes.

Since retiring in 2005 Sam has remained involved with speedway and three years
ago was the sporting director for the Reading team, runners-up in the league. 
He is also a successful TV pundit for Sky Sports and can be seen giving his
expert opinion during speedway matches and World championship Grands Prix. The
new Lions supremo is mindful of the history of speedway in Leicester that dates
back to 1928 and said: "I am honoured to be associated with such a proud
heritage and look forward to making the Lions worthy ambassadors for the city of
Leicester".          http://www.leicester-speedway.com/

I am interested to know where this incorrect info came from. I interviewed Ellen
and Max in December 1993 and he died in October 1994. I was at his funeral, a
great but humble man.
   Steve

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, John Hyam <speedstox12@...> wrote:
> Subject: Re: ELLEN GROSSKREUTZ
Ellen Grosskreutz, wife of the renowned Australian star and pre-war Norwich
promoter Max Grosskreutz, died on November 8, 2009, aged 102 years.
Pre-war, Max rode for Lea Bridge and Belle Vue, and in 1947 and 1948 for
Bradford. He was capped 41 times for Australia. Max died in 1990.

To the best of my knowledge, Arthur Malm, rode for Glasgow at some time and his
son now resides in Sydney.   So I guess there are two gentlemen with similar
names.
Jan

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, Jim Henry <jamesjhenry@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I rather think there were two riders called Arthur Mann.  One was based at
Glasgow White City late 20s / early 1930s, the other was an Aussie with the same
name in the same era.
>
> Billy Galloway mentioned this in an article in the Daily Record.
>

www.speedwayatoz.co.uk



O'CONNOR, Thomas Patrick (Tom)

Born: July 31, 1929, Fulham, London, England.*

A loyal one track rider who spent five years with the Rayleigh `Rockets', Tom
was an integral part of the side that won successive Southern League titles in
1952 and 1953. Whilst riders like Jack Unstead and Gerald Jackson grabbed much
of the headlines at The Weir, Tom quietly amassed his points and was one of
those middle order riders who are essential to a successful side.

After taking a season to cement his place as a team regular, Tom went from
strength to strength and had a fantastic year in 1952 when he averaged over
eight points per match. In 1954 he rode at Second Division level for the
'Rockets' but an injury hit season saw his average slip to below the six points
per match figure for the first time since his debut campaign and he retired at
the end of the year to set up a haulage business.

Year Club   Division M R P BP TP CMA FM PM
1950 Rayleigh  NL3 25 68 60 8 68 4.00 - -
1951 Rayleigh NL3 39 154 260 39 299 7.77 3 2
1952 Rayleigh SL 41 165 280 52 332 8.05 - 2
1953 Rayleigh SL 31 127 204 41 245 7.72 - 2
1954 Rayleigh NL2 11 44 51 9 60 5.45 - -

Team Honours: Southern League Championship winner 1952, 1953.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "lastlap66" <lastlap66@...> wrote:
>
> According to a pal, I understand that Tom O'Connor cane to England from the
Irish track Santry in the late 1940s and then rode for West Ham. Is more known
about his career in the UK.
>

According to a pal, I understand that Tom O'Connor cane to England from the
Irish track Santry in the late 1940s and then rode for West Ham. Is more known
about his career in the UK.

Arthur Mann shows up in one of my 1932 Syney Royale programs. He does not show
up in any of my other programs. It says he is from Brighton (Australia I
presume) He is riding a Rudge with a black race jacket with orange circles on
it! Other than that I no nothing about the man. Hopefully Ross Garrigan will see
this and comment on him.

Tiger Tom....

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, Jim Henry <jamesjhenry@...> wrote:
>
> Hi
>
> I rather think there were two riders called Arthur Mann.  One was based at
Glasgow White City late 20s / early 1930s, the other was an Aussie with the same
name in the same era.
>
> Billy Galloway mentioned this in an article in the Daily Record.
>

Hi

I rather think there were two riders called Arthur Mann.  One was based at
Glasgow White City late 20s / early 1930s, the other was an Aussie with the same
name in the same era.

Billy Galloway mentioned this in an article in the Daily Record.

--- In ukmidgets@..., "richardjohn5985" <rjn@...> wrote:

I had contact from the BBC today who make a series about missing people - sadly
it seems Malcolm Goodman, Multi Midget Champ and 1973 Hot Rod English Champion
went missing from the nursing home he was living in back in September.  A long
shot posting on here but if anyone does have any info the obviously please get
in touch.

--- End forwarded message ---

And I would point out that on a further follow up the match was in 1931 and NOT
in 1933 as detailed.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "beatagain24" <beatagain24@...> wrote:
>
> I have just visited the INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY SITE site and eventually found
the match as you said but now another name has come up the Overseas team and who
was Arthur Mann. I also agree that while there's a lot of stuff on the site it's
very difficult to get around and is rather jammed up on what it carries and I
think that the stuff there should be better spaced out than it is. I did like
the look of the programme covers that I saw and it was great to get so far back
with the origins of the sport.
>
> --- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "rusty_staples" <rusty_staples@>
wrote:
> >
> > Yes go to this site for a complete score chart and a scan of the programme.
> >
> > http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/engvov.htm
> >
> > One of "THE" best sites on the web.
> >
> >
> > Roger
> >
>

I have just visited the INTERNATIONAL SPEEDWAY SITE site and eventually found
the match as you said but now another name has come up the Overseas team and who
was Arthur Mann. I also agree that while there's a lot of stuff on the site it's
very difficult to get around and is rather jammed up on what it carries and I
think that the stuff there should be better spaced out than it is. I did like
the look of the programme covers that I saw and it was great to get so far back
with the origins of the sport.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "rusty_staples" <rusty_staples@...>
wrote:
>
> Yes go to this site for a complete score chart and a scan of the programme.
>
> http://www.internationalspeedway.co.uk/engvov.htm
>
> One of "THE" best sites on the web.
>
>
> Roger
>

Do a message check for

Concrete starting areas

then scroll down to the bottom of the page and you will a series of messages on
the subject.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "John" <diabloxrojo@...> wrote:
>
>
> Does anyone know when the concrete/tarmac starting area stopped being used?
>

Does anyone know when the concrete/tarmac starting area stopped being used?

I would add that besides speedway and the various stock car formulas that Denys
Jones wrote several interesting articles on the history of British midget car
racing over the years.
As you say shaleways the internet passed him by and it is now difficult to trace
his many writings in many publications.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "WebbT" <shaleway6980@...> wrote:
>
> Thanks John and Top Bend for your prompt postings.a truly unrecognised
historian. We owe so much to dedicated speedway folk like Denys, we must hope
their work is preserved, as most of these guys did it the hard way without the
IT help we now enjoy, most of thier work would have been in hard copy and easily
discarded by relatives unaware of the value.
>
> Fortunately I just been  informed that a series of Deny's articles covering
the years 1929-33 were published in Vintage  Speedway Magazine fom volume 10 no
3 to volume 12 no 3. 2004.
>
> it would be great to know if denys is still with us
> Tony
>

I would like to correct the spelling of the rider's name - it is Blos Bromfield.
These are some details about him in the match. It seems he was third in heat two
behind George Greenwood and Norman Evans, ahead of his team mate Ron Johnson
(Overseas). Third in heat six behind Jim Kempster, his team mate Charlie Spinks
(Overseas), but ahead of Roger Frogley. In heat eight he was second to George
Greenwood. ahead of Evans and Charlie Datson (Overseas).

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "weewillie34" <weewillie34@...> wrote:
>
> Bos Blomfield was in the Overseas team beaten 32-19 by a side of English
riders at West Ham on April 21 1931. Blomfield scored four points. I can find no
other references to him anywhere. What club did he ride for and from what
country did he come?
>

Ellen Grosskreutz, wife of the renowned Australian star and pre-war Norwich
promoter Max Grosskreutz, died on November 8, 2009, aged 102 years.
Pre-war, Max rode for Lea Bridge and Belle Vue, and in 1947 and 1948 for
Bradford. He was capped 41 times for Australia. Max died in 1990.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, John Hyam <speedstox12@...> wrote:
>
> From the February edition 'Peter White's Australian
> Speedway World':
>
> "ELLEN GROSSKREUTZ, widow of Max, was featured in the
> 'Port Stephens Examiner' last month when she
> celebrated her 100th birthday.
>
> "She enjoyed a lunch at home with her daughters Maxine
> Jackson and Sandra Miles, seven grandchildren and 11
> great-grandchildren.
>
> "She moved from Rose Bay in Sydney, where she lived
> with Max for more than 60 years, to Shoal Bay in 2003
> to live with her daughters after Max died."
>
> Note; Max Grosskreutz was one of Australia's greatest
> test riders. He rode pre-war for Belle Vue and briefly
> Norwich (where he also promoted). In 1947 and 1948 Max
> rode for Bradford until a serious injury ended his career.
>
>
>
>
>      
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>

Bos Blomfield was in the Overseas team beaten 32-19 by a side of English riders
at West Ham on April 21 1931. Blomfield scored four points. I can find no other
references to him anywhere. What club did he ride for and from what country did
he come?

Thanks John and Top Bend for your prompt postings.a truly unrecognised
historian. We owe so much to dedicated speedway folk like Denys, we must hope
their work is preserved, as most of these guys did it the hard way without the
IT help we now enjoy, most of thier work would have been in hard copy and easily
discarded by relatives unaware of the value.

Fortunately I just been  informed that a series of Deny's articles covering the
years 1929-33 were published in Vintage  Speedway Magazine fom volume 10 no 3 to
volume 12 no 3. 2004.

it would be great to know if denys is still with us
Tony

Until about two years ago I know that Denys was a regular visitor to Wimbledon
on the Sundays when stock cars raced. I'm not so sure if he is still around
because he must be in his early eighties by now. I hope he is still with us.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "JohnH" <speedstox12@...> wrote:
>
> Denys Jones is a respected historian, perhaps unrecognised. He was a
contributor to the Speedway Gazette in the post-Basil Storey era, when Doug
Falby bought the publication and had Cyril J Hart as his right-hand man and
editor.
>
> Denys first came to light with a series of historial articles in the early
1950s for the old Monthly Speedway World, while in the 1990s also had some work
published in the Vintage Speedway Magazine when that publication was under the
guidance of John Chaplin.
>
> I am certain that Denys was taken as a very small boy to Wimbledon in the
early 1930s - he certainly once told me that he saw Vic Huxley ride there as
well as recalling a 1936 visit to Plough Lane by the legendary American
stuntman-cum-speedway rider Putt Mossman.
>
> Away from speedway, Denys was employed by the BBC but I am uncertain in what
role. I know that he again told me of an interview he was involved in with Jimmy
Gibb (Wimbledon and Canada) for the BBC, probably in 1951. Gibb then told him
that eventually the crowds would move away from the sport as television grew in
popularity. Gibb, of course, was a professional film and TV cameraman and
technician - how right he was!
>
> Denys is an authority on Wimbledon Speedway, and also a keen follower of small
oval (stock car) car racing. Again a renowned writer on that sport. The last I
hear of Denys, just after Wimbledon Speedway closed, was that he still went to
car meetings there. At the time he was living in South Wimbledon.
>
> I wish I could me more helpful!!!
>

Any details of actual teams and points scorers please.

--- In oldtimespeedway@yahoogroups.com, "rusty_staples" <rusty_staples@...>
wrote:
>
> Correct in every detail......match took place on October 16 and it was a 32-31
win for the Overseas.
>