I looked for messages from you and could not find any, so sorry if
this is the same question you get all the time.  How were you able
to get the vertical shaft of the lawn mower engine to work with a
horizontal setup. Any and all info you have would be great.  Do you
have a websight documenting your buildup?  Where can you buy
whatever part it takes to change from vertical to horizontal
motion.  If "blurrban" is no longer around, does anyone else know
the answers to my questions.  Thanks.

--- honestly you hit the nail on the head,The edge buggies or desert
carts plans would be your best bet.Personally i am a edge or
http://www.rorty-design.com/content/rorty-racing.htm
fan but check them all out and see what suits you best.
Buggy plans are worty there weight in gold no matter who you end up
going with.


In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Cory" <rayboy9@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <matt1ptkn1@y...>
> wrote:
> > Ok, with my first kart running great, and the weather getting
> > better, I have been brainstorming about my next kart.  I am going
> to
> > use my SR250 engine (I have some new ideas to get it to run much
> > better) and I believe that I now want to do an independent rear
> > suspension.  What setup (CV's/universals/axles/hubs) is most
> > commonly used, and where can they be found?  Or is there a nice
> > independent axle kit made for karts that can be purchased to
> > simplify the project?  I would prefer to just buy something that
> can
> > be bolted on, and stay away from cutting/welding axles so as to
> > avoid problems later.  I have seen that karts from the edge and
> > desert design and fabrication use independent rear setups and
> > wondered what they typically use?  I also would prefer something
> not
> > huge, under 5' rear track.  I just want to build a kart, not a
> dune
> > buggy.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.
>
> i was planing on using pto shafts with custom made trailing
> arms..... that or jack some t-1 cvjoints and axles out of a VW....
> w/e works lol dont know about a bolt on kit tho....i would also
like
> some more insight to this....

--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Matt" <matt1ptkn1@y...>
wrote:
> Ok, with my first kart running great, and the weather getting
> better, I have been brainstorming about my next kart.  I am going
to
> use my SR250 engine (I have some new ideas to get it to run much
> better) and I believe that I now want to do an independent rear
> suspension.  What setup (CV's/universals/axles/hubs) is most
> commonly used, and where can they be found?  Or is there a nice
> independent axle kit made for karts that can be purchased to
> simplify the project?  I would prefer to just buy something that
can
> be bolted on, and stay away from cutting/welding axles so as to
> avoid problems later.  I have seen that karts from the edge and
> desert design and fabrication use independent rear setups and
> wondered what they typically use?  I also would prefer something
not
> huge, under 5' rear track.  I just want to build a kart, not a
dune
> buggy.  Any suggestions?  Thanks.

i was planing on using pto shafts with custom made trailing
arms..... that or jack some t-1 cvjoints and axles out of a VW....
w/e works lol dont know about a bolt on kit tho....i would also like
some more insight to this....

This is a easy update,nothing new to say.Busy time of year and i am
hitting the part AGAIN where i am sick of working on the buggy.I
started building us a new master bath 1 1/2 years ago and really need
to get back to work on that for awhile.I still plan to have the R6
done this spring but i need a break for a bit.If you seen our future
master bath you would understand why i need to get going on it.Its
been rough plumbed and framed since early spring and just siting
there.
we are currently working a deal with a developer that is tring to
build a huge mall in our back yard.They have already spent over 8 mil
on property adjoining ours.They only want just less than 1/2 acre of
my property for what they want to do and the 35K they are offering is
sounding tempting.It would help us out a ton and make theses projects
much more affordable.

---
Cool keith,Wish i had done something like that in school.Cant wait to
see the pics.



In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "chemicalman04"
<chemicalman04@y...> wrote:
>
>
> hey guys. sorry its taken me a while to get to the point in school
to
> where i can not start being more active in the group again. i have
> joined the mini-baja team here at my school  (univ. of detroit
mercy).
> eventhough i am a chemist, all majors are welcome so i can continue
my
> love of this wonderful sport. i have taken some pictures of the
build
> that i will post when i can. i have to talk with Max (the team
leader)
> to see if this is ok because this is a competition.
>
> with our build we started with a steel table. we had some scrap
pieces
> of tube that we milled with a holesaw so that every length was the
> same and we used this as a base for our frame. at first it was a
pain
> but it paid off in the end. last weekend max and myself (the only
ones
> that showed to work the whole weekend) took the frame off the jig
and
> placed it on the ground. no rocking at all. we measured some lengths
> from a few places and everything seems to be in place completely to
> the design that we have in autocad. this is just a thought for
anyone
> that has a table big enough for this jig. the table has to be bigger
> than the frame itself. i plan to use this same idea for next years
> frame. max will not be returning since he is graduating so i will
most
> likely be the team leader. something that i would like to try for
next
> year is an independant rear suspension. no one has had the time to
> work on this so i plan on spending part of my summer to design
> something. if anyone has some pointers go ahead and email me.
>
> schradkw@s...
>
> ill get some pictures up as soon as i can.
>
>
> keith schrader

hello all new to this group , we have a murray built kart with a 6
hp side shaft engine on it it does ok but wanting more power , we
are wanting to go to a 10-18 hp side shaft engine , if anyone has or
knows of anyone who has one that would be willing to part with one
please let me know , prefer a running engine ,,,any info would be
greatly appreciated , thank you jeff

hey guys. sorry its taken me a while to get to the point in school to
where i can not start being more active in the group again. i have
joined the mini-baja team here at my school  (univ. of detroit mercy).
eventhough i am a chemist, all majors are welcome so i can continue my
love of this wonderful sport. i have taken some pictures of the build
that i will post when i can. i have to talk with Max (the team leader)
to see if this is ok because this is a competition.

with our build we started with a steel table. we had some scrap pieces
of tube that we milled with a holesaw so that every length was the
same and we used this as a base for our frame. at first it was a pain
but it paid off in the end. last weekend max and myself (the only ones
that showed to work the whole weekend) took the frame off the jig and
placed it on the ground. no rocking at all. we measured some lengths
from a few places and everything seems to be in place completely to
the design that we have in autocad. this is just a thought for anyone
that has a table big enough for this jig. the table has to be bigger
than the frame itself. i plan to use this same idea for next years
frame. max will not be returning since he is graduating so i will most
likely be the team leader. something that i would like to try for next
year is an independant rear suspension. no one has had the time to
work on this so i plan on spending part of my summer to design
something. if anyone has some pointers go ahead and email me.

schradkw@...

ill get some pictures up as soon as i can.


keith schrader

what polaris location do you think you would be at?

mike


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yes, you are right-- but there are some groups/organizations you can
join to prevent these city slickers from overrunning our riding
areas. search for these groups -- or I can find the clubs/groups and
post them -- lemme know

There are a lot of riding areas in NC, but they are spaced evenly
apart and uh.... long drive to a few of them.

I've sold my buggies and most of the parts I had laying around.  I
still have all my fab tools, but do most/all of my work at school
(which is a long way from home).

I have recently purchased a four wheeler so I can go home on the
breaks and ride.  I also have a group at ncatvtrails that rides most
every weekend at various location in NC... but I can't make it but
once every 6-8 weeks.... oh well so goes life.

Mark

--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, Dean Charron <dwcharron@y...>
wrote:
>
> What's the deal? Where we used to be able to ride is now overun by
new houses occupied by people who hate our guts! I live in a small
hilltown community where just about everyone owns an ATV, except for
the newcomer city A-holes who move here and screw it up with their
showcase homes manacured lawns...
>
> cooltoy <no_reply@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Come on people dont let this group die.This group built up to 775
> members and has been around for over 7 years.I am sure everyone
will
> agree this is not our favorite group but its still a asset to the
> offroad community.
> cecedog whats the deal?????????????????????????
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Hey --

Yeah i'm still around -- i apologize for neglecting the group for
quite some time now.

I am concentrating in mechanical engineeering.. in fact I'm almost
done.

My senior design is the mini-baja project-- I'm the team captain and
there are 6 students on the design/build team.  I will post a link
to our website soon.

I'm working on applying to polaris industries as a project engineer
or senior design engineer-- we'll see what happens with that.  I'd
really enjoy that kind of work/job/career.

How are the projects going? Anything new?  Pictures?

Mark
mscecil@...

What's the deal? Where we used to be able to ride is now overun by new houses
occupied by people who hate our guts! I live in a small hilltown community where
just about everyone owns an ATV, except for the newcomer city A-holes who move
here and screw it up with their showcase homes manacured lawns...

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agree this is not our favorite group but its still a asset to the
offroad community.
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I think he's concentrating on his studies in Mechanical Engineering. I agree
though, this group has served the smaller budget and smaller powerplant
community for quite some time. Well smaller than a GSXR-1000 that is.

Eldon.

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offroad community.
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Come on people dont let this group die.This group built up to 775
members and has been around for over 7 years.I am sure everyone will
agree this is not our favorite group but its still a asset to the
offroad community.
cecedog whats the deal?????????????????????????

Well after a couple weeks on messing around i am finnaly on line
out in the shop.I ended up bring my hard drive down to a repair shop
and they found that all the drivers had been deleated and needed
reinstalled.They reworked the whole pc and did a new installe on
everything for $80.00.So i brought the pc home and it worked fine but
still would not connect the internet.I have the shop pc connected to
a linksys router at the house,The router has lights that show when a
pc is properly connected,the house pc would show a solid light on the
router while the shop pc would have a blinking light.I called
linksys,best buys and radio shack and talked to 3 different tech guys
and they all said the blinking light was fine.B.S. Shows what they
know.My shop pc is about 175' from the router so i had made my own
patch cable,I found the problem was with one of my crimped ends that
i did,As soon as i found the problem and corrected it both lights
stayed on steady and the pc connected to the net so here i am.Now you
guys i have to deal with me much more often.I am considering hooking
up a shop build cam.What do you think?

It's Baja Time again.
This is being circulated, thought you might be interested.

Ok all of you  off-road desert racing nuts. Here is the story. I
have been priveledged  enough to have been invited to be on "Wind
Tunnel" with Dave Despain on  this coming Monday November 15th at
7:00pm pacific to talk about this  years Baja 1000. They are going
to shoot my part of the segment at my race  shop that night.

This is where all of you come in. This is our  chance to show Speed
Channel how big desert racing is and that they need  to be covering
our sport more often, and give it the press it deserves.  This is
how we can do it. We need anyone and everyone to either call in
during the show or email questions to the show,and the questions can
even  be just about desert racing in general. This can be done at 1-
866-W-Tunnel  or email at windtunnel@.... I want  them to
get bombarded with response from all of you. We need to show them
the fans are out there and they want more desert racing. Tell
everyone you  know. Lets continue to promote this sport and give it
the attention it  truly deserves.

Like I said, this is our chance to show the nation  that we are a
sport that deserves television coverage. We have some  awesome
people and fans in our industry with some great stories to be  told,
just like, if not better than the other forms or racing out there
that are getting the air time. Lets all pull together and show your
support.

Ryan Arciero

--------------------
Baja Champ

For those of you building minibuggies and want a chance to race
them, this is for you.
On November 7, 2004 at 1:00 p.m. we are holding a meeting to see how
much interest we get in building a racetrack for minibuggies in
Ontario.
If you want more info contact Ken at (terken@...)or call Brian
Bassett at 1(705)432-2214 or cell 1(705)879-2500.
Thanks

damn i did not know this group was still up. I have not been here in
like 2 years(when it used to be busy). I think everyone that used to
go here got busy.

---
The side plates i did have laser cut,Everything else i fabbed myself
on the lathe.The total cost into the cassette is around 600.00 Most
of that cost is the 4 CV bearings that were $107.00 each.


In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, areblder <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> I haven't come to this site in quite some time now, I am inpressed
> with your drive cassette! Did you manufacture the entire unit or
sis
> you have someone cnc the plates? I have to make a cassette up for
my
> independent kart was the $600.00 what it cost you to complete the
> kit?
> Randy
>
> --- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, cooltoy <no_reply@y...>
wrote:
> > Well here it finally is.After almost 2 months and $600.00 later
> the
> > drive cassette is 99% done.All that is left is mounting
tabs.Drive
> > sprocket,Rotor and caliper will be mounted later.
> > The total weight of the box comes in at 45LBS not including,Drive
> > sprocket and rotor,Not to bad but still quite heavy for a "lite
> > car".Notice how far inboard the CV's are,Oh baby can you say
> monster
> > travel.
> > The next step is to mount the cassette and the motor then we can
> see
> > if this beast runs,Cross your fingers,Mine are!!!
> > I must say Mcmaster Carr has come thru again,I ordered all
> stainless
> > bolts for the cassette on monday night about 10:00 pm and when i
> got
> > home today about 4:30 PM they were sitting at my door.I recommend
> > them for just about anything you could ever need.
> >
> > I have added pics of the cassette to my folder under "bills
> > sidewinder", (unless you are reading this on the pooa board then
> the
> > pics are below,DUH.)

I haven't come to this site in quite some time now, I am inpressed
with your drive cassette! Did you manufacture the entire unit or sis
you have someone cnc the plates? I have to make a cassette up for my
independent kart was the $600.00 what it cost you to complete the
kit?
Randy

--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, cooltoy <no_reply@y...> wrote:
> Well here it finally is.After almost 2 months and $600.00 later
the
> drive cassette is 99% done.All that is left is mounting tabs.Drive
> sprocket,Rotor and caliper will be mounted later.
> The total weight of the box comes in at 45LBS not including,Drive
> sprocket and rotor,Not to bad but still quite heavy for a "lite
> car".Notice how far inboard the CV's are,Oh baby can you say
monster
> travel.
> The next step is to mount the cassette and the motor then we can
see
> if this beast runs,Cross your fingers,Mine are!!!
> I must say Mcmaster Carr has come thru again,I ordered all
stainless
> bolts for the cassette on monday night about 10:00 pm and when i
got
> home today about 4:30 PM they were sitting at my door.I recommend
> them for just about anything you could ever need.
>
> I have added pics of the cassette to my folder under "bills
> sidewinder", (unless you are reading this on the pooa board then
the
> pics are below,DUH.)

No post in nearly a month,Whats happening here.Well i just thought i
would make a post so the group wouldnt get shut down by yahoo.

Well here it finally is.After almost 2 months and $600.00 later the
drive cassette is 99% done.All that is left is mounting tabs.Drive
sprocket,Rotor and caliper will be mounted later.
The total weight of the box comes in at 45LBS not including,Drive
sprocket and rotor,Not to bad but still quite heavy for a "lite
car".Notice how far inboard the CV's are,Oh baby can you say monster
travel.
The next step is to mount the cassette and the motor then we can see
if this beast runs,Cross your fingers,Mine are!!!
I must say Mcmaster Carr has come thru again,I ordered all stainless
bolts for the cassette on monday night about 10:00 pm and when i got
home today about 4:30 PM they were sitting at my door.I recommend
them for just about anything you could ever need.

I have added pics of the cassette to my folder under "bills
sidewinder", (unless you are reading this on the pooa board then the
pics are below,DUH.)

I'll be switching to no e-mail for a while. I go in for hand surgery
Wednesday morning thanks to some arthritis. That pretty much puts an
end to any buggy building plans for a while...

If you have the money, use comet's 700 series torque converters.  The
770, 780, and 790 series units are very low geared and have a high
top end (low ratio is about 3.7:1 and high is an amazing 0.69:1)--
this makes for low gearing and high end speed because of the
overdrive. These units will run you around $400-$500 for a driver &
driven.  This unit uses a 1 1/8 belt that has less slippage than most
torque converters at it's size.

If you don't have a pile of money laying around like that, the comet
40 series provides a very durable unit that works well on smaller
engines.  I think the 44c magnum driver unit and the 44d driven unit
provide the best low end (around 2.8:1) and max out in high gear at
1.21:1.  This won't give you as much "pull" as the 700 series, but it
will be a great unit at about half the cost (expect to pay $250-
$300).

Many different belt center distances are available for both units.
You can call comet at 1-800-999-8161 and someone can help you find
the belt you need, but I don't know if you can order parts from them
(they may refer you to a dealer).

If you plan on pushing more than 12hp out of that engine, go with the
700 series or maybe the 90 series (94c & 90d).

Hope this helps
Mark
--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "fordracing1385"
<fordracing1385@y...> wrote:
> Hey everyboby just now got my swing arm completed and mounted and
> getting ready to completly figure out the whole clutch/jackshaft
> setup for my kart. First off i am going to usa a Honda GX240(8 hp),
> but am planning on doing some mods such as: custom header, remove
> governer, and port & polish. I see that the comet Torq a verter is
> only rated up to 8hp, so should I not use this? I had a kart with
> one of these before with heavily modified 6hp and it seemed to work
> very good. If not what clutch should I get? I dont know anything as
> for as the ratio's go thats got me stumped. I want good low end
> torque and accelaration but ave a pretty decent top speed as well.
> Any ideas or advice would really help out...thanks, Jesse.

I should have the engine mount done this weekend.

I'm actually making a "sub-frame" for the engine that will then mount to the
kart frame.  This will make for easy engine removal as well as preserve the
existing mounts should my engine fail and I need to use a more traditional
powerplant.

I'm also using a jackshaft to get my final ratio.  The good thing, of course, is
that I can change sprocket sizes with ease, should the current 6.07 ratio prove
inefficient.

Does anyone have any RPM and/or torque stats on engines.  I can calculate what
mine should be, but want something to compare it to (like a 16hp Briggs with or
without a torque converter, etc.)

This way I at least know that my engine is in the ballpark for being capable of
handling my kart.


Kasey



"Eldon R. Hiebert" <ehiebert@...> wrote:
That's cool if you're comfortable with it. I think you have the gear ratio about
right for that engine and buggy size. Good luck, and let us know how it works
out.

Eldon.

K Efaw <buildstoys@...> wrote:
I've actually decided to try and use the motorcycle engine.  Having a gear
shifter would be no problem and the engine is rated at 25hp.  With my jackshaft
the final drive ratio is 5.95:1.

If it doesn't work, I'll try a B&S engine.  It's cheaper for me to try the
motorcycle engine route anyway.

Kasey

"Eldon R. Hiebert" <ehiebert@...> wrote:
I think I'd go for the 18 HP B&S engine. It has much more torque than a CM250,
and then you don't need a gear shifter. The 16 HP Briggs motors are about 500 cc
engines. That rig is a trails machine mostly, which implies you want
controllable torque vs. rev speed in an engine.

Eldon.

K <buildstoys@...> wrote:
Eldon,


I'm not sure yet.  I'm either going to try and use a Honda CM250
motorcycle engine that I already have or save up and get around an
18hp Briggs (what Mark had).

What's your take on the idea? Would a 250cc cycle engine be "strong"
enough.


Kasey


--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
<ehiebert@y...> wrote:
> Glad I could help Kasey. I hope the kart lives up to what I have
said about it. While I have never seen the kart in person, I have
followed the build story for a few years now. Some pictures would be
nice when you finish it off.
>
> What kind of engine are you going to pick for that?
>
> Eldon.
>
> K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
> Eldon,
>
> Thanks for your input on Mark's chassis.  I drove a total of 980
> miles yesterday to meet up with Mark and purchase the kart.
>
> I'll post some pictures (if you'd like) when I finish the project.
>
>
> Kasey
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Hey everyboby just now got my swing arm completed and mounted and
getting ready to completly figure out the whole clutch/jackshaft
setup for my kart. First off i am going to usa a Honda GX240(8 hp),
but am planning on doing some mods such as: custom header, remove
governer, and port & polish. I see that the comet Torq a verter is
only rated up to 8hp, so should I not use this? I had a kart with
one of these before with heavily modified 6hp and it seemed to work
very good. If not what clutch should I get? I dont know anything as
for as the ratio's go thats got me stumped. I want good low end
torque and accelaration but ave a pretty decent top speed as well.
Any ideas or advice would really help out...thanks, Jesse.

That's cool if you're comfortable with it. I think you have the gear ratio about
right for that engine and buggy size. Good luck, and let us know how it works
out.

Eldon.

K Efaw <buildstoys@...> wrote:
I've actually decided to try and use the motorcycle engine.  Having a gear
shifter would be no problem and the engine is rated at 25hp.  With my jackshaft
the final drive ratio is 5.95:1.

If it doesn't work, I'll try a B&S engine.  It's cheaper for me to try the
motorcycle engine route anyway.

Kasey

"Eldon R. Hiebert" <ehiebert@...> wrote:
I think I'd go for the 18 HP B&S engine. It has much more torque than a CM250,
and then you don't need a gear shifter. The 16 HP Briggs motors are about 500 cc
engines. That rig is a trails machine mostly, which implies you want
controllable torque vs. rev speed in an engine.

Eldon.

K <buildstoys@...> wrote:
Eldon,


I'm not sure yet.  I'm either going to try and use a Honda CM250
motorcycle engine that I already have or save up and get around an
18hp Briggs (what Mark had).

What's your take on the idea? Would a 250cc cycle engine be "strong"
enough.


Kasey


--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
<ehiebert@y...> wrote:
> Glad I could help Kasey. I hope the kart lives up to what I have
said about it. While I have never seen the kart in person, I have
followed the build story for a few years now. Some pictures would be
nice when you finish it off.
>
> What kind of engine are you going to pick for that?
>
> Eldon.
>
> K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
> Eldon,
>
> Thanks for your input on Mark's chassis.  I drove a total of 980
> miles yesterday to meet up with Mark and purchase the kart.
>
> I'll post some pictures (if you'd like) when I finish the project.
>
>
> Kasey
>
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Before I place some kart items on Ebay, I figured I'd see if anyone
needs any of them:

p.s. I sold the Enginetics brake kit already

22X11X8 Carlisle tires/rims – $75, with shipping

1"X42" Deluxe flexpruf solid steel axle with jam nuts and cotter
pins - $45, with shipping

(2) Mechanical adjustable shocks, 2" compression/450lbs. total load -
  $30, with shipping

34" Steering shaft kit, pittman arms not welded - $25, with shipping

#40, 58 tooth sprocket - $35, with shipping

All parts have been used for mounting purposes only.
Rear tires, rear shocks, seat, steering wheel, two and three hole
bearing flanges with 1" bearings, front and rear hubs, front
spindles and a brake pedal also available if anyone is interested.
I'll take PayPal, check or money order.  Ship via FedEx ground upon
money clearing.
Start posting on Ebay by weeks end

I've actually decided to try and use the motorcycle engine.  Having a gear
shifter would be no problem and the engine is rated at 25hp.  With my jackshaft
the final drive ratio is 5.95:1.

If it doesn't work, I'll try a B&S engine.  It's cheaper for me to try the
motorcycle engine route anyway.

Kasey

"Eldon R. Hiebert" <ehiebert@...> wrote:
I think I'd go for the 18 HP B&S engine. It has much more torque than a CM250,
and then you don't need a gear shifter. The 16 HP Briggs motors are about 500 cc
engines. That rig is a trails machine mostly, which implies you want
controllable torque vs. rev speed in an engine.

Eldon.

K <buildstoys@...> wrote:
Eldon,


I'm not sure yet.  I'm either going to try and use a Honda CM250
motorcycle engine that I already have or save up and get around an
18hp Briggs (what Mark had).

What's your take on the idea? Would a 250cc cycle engine be "strong"
enough.


Kasey


--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
<ehiebert@y...> wrote:
> Glad I could help Kasey. I hope the kart lives up to what I have
said about it. While I have never seen the kart in person, I have
followed the build story for a few years now. Some pictures would be
nice when you finish it off.
>
> What kind of engine are you going to pick for that?
>
> Eldon.
>
> K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
> Eldon,
>
> Thanks for your input on Mark's chassis.  I drove a total of 980
> miles yesterday to meet up with Mark and purchase the kart.
>
> I'll post some pictures (if you'd like) when I finish the project.
>
>
> Kasey
>
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I'm hoping to get 750.  My buy it now would be for 799.  Most 16hp v-
twins are going for around 600-700 right now (very few on ebay), but
they usually have no hours.  Mine has about 6-8 hours of runtime.

If I can get 225 for the 90 series torque converter I'd sell it.  It
uses a 1 & 3/16 belt ( i have three so I'd include one).

Thanks!
Mark

--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, Dennis <den942@b...> wrote:
> What are you hoping to get from the V twin?
>
> Mark wrote:
> > Eldon is right-- the trail machines need a lower-revving high
torque
> > motor-- while sand rails and speed come from a motorcycle engine
or
> > equivalent.
> >
> > If anyone is interested-- I might put my v-twin on ebay next
week. I
> > won't get to use it until next summer (or for a few more
years).
> > I'd rather see it put to use than aging in my shop.  I have a 90
> > series torque converter also.  Let me know.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
> > <ehiebert@y...> wrote:
> >
> >>I think I'd go for the 18 HP B&S engine. It has much more torque
> >
> > than a CM250, and then you don't need a gear shifter. The 16 HP
> > Briggs motors are about 500 cc engines. That rig is a trails
machine
> > mostly, which implies you want controllable torque vs. rev speed
in
> > an engine.
> >
> >>
> >>Eldon.
> >>
> >>K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
> >>Eldon,
> >>
> >>
> >>I'm not sure yet.  I'm either going to try and use a Honda CM250
> >>motorcycle engine that I already have or save up and get around
an
> >>18hp Briggs (what Mark had).
> >>
> >>What's your take on the idea? Would a 250cc cycle engine
> >
> > be "strong"
> >
> >>enough.
> >>
> >>
> >>Kasey
> >>
> >>
> >>--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
> >><ehiebert@y...> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Glad I could help Kasey. I hope the kart lives up to what I
have
> >>
> >>said about it. While I have never seen the kart in person, I
have
> >>followed the build story for a few years now. Some pictures
would
> >
> > be
> >
> >>nice when you finish it off.
> >>
> >>>
> >>>What kind of engine are you going to pick for that?
> >>>
> >>>Eldon.
> >>>
> >>>K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
> >>>Eldon,
> >>>
> >>>Thanks for your input on Mark's chassis.  I drove a total of
980
> >>>miles yesterday to meet up with Mark and purchase the kart.
> >>>
> >>>I'll post some pictures (if you'd like) when I finish the
> >
> > project.
> >
> >>>
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> >>>
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What are you hoping to get from the V twin?

Mark wrote:
> Eldon is right-- the trail machines need a lower-revving high torque
> motor-- while sand rails and speed come from a motorcycle engine or
> equivalent.
>
> If anyone is interested-- I might put my v-twin on ebay next week. I
> won't get to use it until next summer (or for a few more years).
> I'd rather see it put to use than aging in my shop.  I have a 90
> series torque converter also.  Let me know.
>
>
>
> --- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
> <ehiebert@y...> wrote:
>
>>I think I'd go for the 18 HP B&S engine. It has much more torque
>
> than a CM250, and then you don't need a gear shifter. The 16 HP
> Briggs motors are about 500 cc engines. That rig is a trails machine
> mostly, which implies you want controllable torque vs. rev speed in
> an engine.
>
>>
>>Eldon.
>>
>>K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
>>Eldon,
>>
>>
>>I'm not sure yet.  I'm either going to try and use a Honda CM250
>>motorcycle engine that I already have or save up and get around an
>>18hp Briggs (what Mark had).
>>
>>What's your take on the idea? Would a 250cc cycle engine
>
> be "strong"
>
>>enough.
>>
>>
>>Kasey
>>
>>
>>--- In offroadgokarts@yahoogroups.com, "Eldon R. Hiebert"
>><ehiebert@y...> wrote:
>>
>>>Glad I could help Kasey. I hope the kart lives up to what I have
>>
>>said about it. While I have never seen the kart in person, I have
>>followed the build story for a few years now. Some pictures would
>
> be
>
>>nice when you finish it off.
>>
>>>
>>>What kind of engine are you going to pick for that?
>>>
>>>Eldon.
>>>
>>>K <buildstoys@y...> wrote:
>>>Eldon,
>>>
>>>Thanks for your input on Mark's chassis.  I drove a total of 980
>>>miles yesterday to meet up with Mark and purchase the kart.
>>>
>>>I'll post some pictures (if you'd like) when I finish the
>
> project.
>
>>>
>>>Kasey
>>>
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