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Tough year losing 1st and 2nd string QBs early in the season.  No choice but to
get Vinnie since we had no cap room.  It was obvious from the start that
Pennington should never have started the season (even his "bullets" were lobs)
and I doubt it'll get much better.  I don't know who made that decision but that
was Edwards' responsibility so I think it's a good thing he's leaving.  Player
egos shouldn't come before the team's needs.

I also think the west side stadium, though far from a perfect solution, was a
far better alternative than another 20+ years sharing a stadium with the giants
in NJ.  It didn't help that NY and NJ politics made the situation impossible for
the jets organization, whatever Woody and Co wanted.  The mets had a stadium
plan and design 10 years ago but the city simply wouldn't allow it to happen -
same thing here.  Yankee stadium is being built in the bronx and NY politicians
don't care about the bronx so it'll get build no sweat.

----- Original Message ----
From: Ken Stewart <biglegz469@...>
To: officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 5:20:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Official Jets Club] Re: New Giants/Jets Stadium - Another Snow Job

i agree, i think woody johnson knows jack shit about football, and i'll bet leon
hess is turning over in his grave, johnson made it clear he's not gonna go after
any 1st tier free agents to better the team, and i think terry bradway sucks as
a gm as well, my fellow jet fans, i fear we may be in for a bad stretch here,
hopefully i am wrong here, all i know is we went from one kick away from the afc
title game to 4-12, so there's something certainly amiss here.
   ken

"Alan R. Ostrowitz" <ostrow.law@...> wrote:
   Let's face it, Woody Johnson was just trying to hose the City and State
of New York, and its taxpayers into financing his real estate venture.
It looks like he just bought the Jets to increase his real estate
holdings on the West Side of New York.  Now that that has fallen
through, he has no further interest in the Jets.   Look at what's
happened this season, how did he let everything disintegrate like it did?

My bet is that he unloads the Jets shortly.

Same scenario as the Nets in Brooklyn, when the real estate venture
falls through, the owner will unload the team.  Just that the Nets owner
has less qualms about letting his true intentions show.

The team is just a shell -- the real "prize" is the real estate -- and
getting the unwitting taxpayers to foot the bill for as much of the
improvements as possible.

Alan



bobby696906 wrote:
> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611" <lwc611@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "ostrowlaw"
> > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had seasons tix at
> Shea
> > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my own seats
> (started
> > out
> > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > >
> > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for the new
> Giants/Jets
> > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/   Giants and Jets
> > > management, sit in their heated and air conditioned sky boxes,
> > milking
> > > the fans of everything they can possibly get, wresting every
> nickel
> > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and influence our
> > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they promise us a
> dome.
> > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after defrauding the
> state
> > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail link, etc., as
> usual,
> > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > >
> > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > >
> > > What else is new?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> >
> > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated about the stadium
> > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets were ever really
> > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the downtown
> stadium
> > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are and have always
> > been the other NYC football team. And in order to insure their
> second-
> > class citizenship they are going to share a facility with the
> Giants,
> > in Jersey!!
> >
> > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not committed to having
> > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium but I guess that
> is
> > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> >
>        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> country."
>
> With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true JETS fan!
>

[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

do you guys feel lied to

--- "Alan R. Ostrowitz" <ostrow.law@...>
wrote:

> I would like to add my 2 cents.
> I've been a Jets fan since before the Joe Namath
> era.
> Since 1969, the Jets have been a perpetual "5 year"
> team.  Its a 5 year
> rebuilding team, with a new coach and rebuilding
> every 5 years.  No
> stability.  The front office has always let them
> down.
>
> Same thing now, no different, coach comes in, 5
> years, great
> expectations, some success, some failure, coach
> leaves, new coach, start
> again.
>
> Problem starts in the front office.
>
> Alan
> Section 125
>
> Bobby wrote:
> > Hi Donnel, I have mixed emotions about Edwards
> leaving. In one way
> > I'm happy. In others, sad?
> > Bobby
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, DONNELL
> BROWN <broc56@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > welcome bobby what do you think about coach
> edwards
> > > leaving
> > >
> > > --- bobby696906 <bobby696906@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com,
> "lwc611"
> > > > <lwc611@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com,
> > > > "ostrowlaw"
> > > > > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father
> had
> > > > seasons tix at
> > > > Shea
> > > > > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I
> got my
> > > > own seats
> > > > (started
> > > > > out
> > > > > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I just took a look at the new "master
> plan" for
> > > > the new
> > > > Giants/Jets
> > > > > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/
>
> > > > Giants and Jets
> > > > > > management, sit in their heated and air
> > > > conditioned sky boxes,
> > > > > milking
> > > > > > the fans of everything they can possibly
> get,
> > > > wresting every
> > > > nickel
> > > > > > and dime they can from us.  We believe
> them and
> > > > influence our
> > > > > > politicians to back to new stadium, while
> they
> > > > promise us a
> > > > dome.
> > > > > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand,
> after
> > > > defrauding the
> > > > state
> > > > > > into paying for the improvements, a new
> rail
> > > > link, etc., as
> > > > usual,
> > > > > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > What else is new?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Alan
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and
> frustrated
> > > > about the stadium
> > > > > question for a different reason.  Were the
> Jets
> > > > were ever really
> > > > > interseted in their own stadium?  The push
> for the
> > > > downtown
> > > > stadium
> > > > > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's
> face
> > > > it, NY is Giants
> > > > > country. Even having won a superbowl, The
> Jets are
> > > > and have always
> > > > > been the other NYC football team. And in
> order to
> > > > insure their
> > > > second-
> > > > > class citizenship they are going to share a
> > > > facility with the
> > > > Giants,
> > > > > in Jersey!!
> > > > >
> > > > > Once they lost the downtown deal they were
> not
> > > > committed to having
> > > > > thier own house.  The Jets need their own
> stadium
> > > > but I guess that
> > > > is
> > > > > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> > > > >
> > > >        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > > >  country."
> > > >
> > > >  With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT
> a true
> > > > JETS fan!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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I would like to add my 2 cents.
I've been a Jets fan since before the Joe Namath era.
Since 1969, the Jets have been a perpetual "5 year" team.  Its a 5 year
rebuilding team, with a new coach and rebuilding every 5 years.  No
stability.  The front office has always let them down.

Same thing now, no different, coach comes in, 5 years, great
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again.

Problem starts in the front office.

Alan
Section 125

Bobby wrote:
> Hi Donnel, I have mixed emotions about Edwards leaving. In one way
> I'm happy. In others, sad?
> Bobby
> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, DONNELL BROWN <broc56@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > welcome bobby what do you think about coach edwards
> > leaving
> >
> > --- bobby696906 <bobby696906@...> wrote:
> >
> > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611"
> > > <lwc611@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com,
> > > "ostrowlaw"
> > > > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > > > >
> > > > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had
> > > seasons tix at
> > > Shea
> > > > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my
> > > own seats
> > > (started
> > > > out
> > > > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > > > >
> > > > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for
> > > the new
> > > Giants/Jets
> > > > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/
> > > Giants and Jets
> > > > > management, sit in their heated and air
> > > conditioned sky boxes,
> > > > milking
> > > > > the fans of everything they can possibly get,
> > > wresting every
> > > nickel
> > > > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and
> > > influence our
> > > > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they
> > > promise us a
> > > dome.
> > > > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after
> > > defrauding the
> > > state
> > > > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail
> > > link, etc., as
> > > usual,
> > > > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > > > >
> > > > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > > > >
> > > > > What else is new?
> > > > >
> > > > > Alan
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated
> > > about the stadium
> > > > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets
> > > were ever really
> > > > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the
> > > downtown
> > > stadium
> > > > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face
> > > it, NY is Giants
> > > > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are
> > > and have always
> > > > been the other NYC football team. And in order to
> > > insure their
> > > second-
> > > > class citizenship they are going to share a
> > > facility with the
> > > Giants,
> > > > in Jersey!!
> > > >
> > > > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not
> > > committed to having
> > > > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium
> > > but I guess that
> > > is
> > > > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> > > >
> > >        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > >  country."
> > >
> > >  With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true
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Hi Donnel, I have mixed emotions about Edwards leaving. In one way
I'm happy. In others, sad?
  Bobby
--- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, DONNELL BROWN <broc56@...>
wrote:
>
> welcome bobby what do you think about coach edwards
> leaving
>
> --- bobby696906 <bobby696906@...> wrote:
>
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611"
> > <lwc611@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com,
> > "ostrowlaw"
> > > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had
> > seasons tix at
> > Shea
> > > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my
> > own seats
> > (started
> > > out
> > > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > > >
> > > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for
> > the new
> > Giants/Jets
> > > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/
> > Giants and Jets
> > > > management, sit in their heated and air
> > conditioned sky boxes,
> > > milking
> > > > the fans of everything they can possibly get,
> > wresting every
> > nickel
> > > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and
> > influence our
> > > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they
> > promise us a
> > dome.
> > > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after
> > defrauding the
> > state
> > > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail
> > link, etc., as
> > usual,
> > > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > > >
> > > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > > >
> > > > What else is new?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated
> > about the stadium
> > > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets
> > were ever really
> > > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the
> > downtown
> > stadium
> > > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face
> > it, NY is Giants
> > > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are
> > and have always
> > > been the other NYC football team. And in order to
> > insure their
> > second-
> > > class citizenship they are going to share a
> > facility with the
> > Giants,
> > > in Jersey!!
> > >
> > > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not
> > committed to having
> > > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium
> > but I guess that
> > is
> > > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> > >
> >        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> >  country."
> >
> >  With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true
> > JETS fan!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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It feels like a bad dream, doesn't it?
   I don't think Woody is gonna get rid of the team any time soon.

They can't go after any high priceed free agents ( or high value) no
cap room.

  Bobby
--- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, Ken Stewart
<biglegz469@...> wrote:
>
> i agree, i think woody johnson knows jack shit about football, and
i'll bet leon hess is turning over in his grave, johnson made it
clear he's not gonna go after any 1st tier free agents to better the
team, and i think terry bradway sucks as a gm as well, my fellow jet
fans, i fear we may be in for a bad stretch here, hopefully i am
wrong here, all i know is we went from one kick away from the afc
title game to 4-12, so there's something certainly amiss here.
>   ken
>
> "Alan R. Ostrowitz" <ostrow.law@...> wrote:
>   Let's face it, Woody Johnson was just trying to hose the City
and State
> of New York, and its taxpayers into financing his real estate
venture.
> It looks like he just bought the Jets to increase his real estate
> holdings on the West Side of New York.  Now that that has fallen
> through, he has no further interest in the Jets.   Look at what's
> happened this season, how did he let everything disintegrate like
it did?
>
> My bet is that he unloads the Jets shortly.
>
> Same scenario as the Nets in Brooklyn, when the real estate
venture
> falls through, the owner will unload the team.  Just that the Nets
owner
> has less qualms about letting his true intentions show.
>
> The team is just a shell -- the real "prize" is the real estate --
and
> getting the unwitting taxpayers to foot the bill for as much of
the
> improvements as possible.
>
> Alan
>
>
>
> bobby696906 wrote:
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611" <lwc611@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "ostrowlaw"
> > > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > > >
> > > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had seasons tix at
> > Shea
> > > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my own seats
> > (started
> > > out
> > > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > > >
> > > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for the new
> > Giants/Jets
> > > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/   Giants and Jets
> > > > management, sit in their heated and air conditioned sky
boxes,
> > > milking
> > > > the fans of everything they can possibly get, wresting every
> > nickel
> > > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and influence our
> > > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they promise us a
> > dome.
> > > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after defrauding the
> > state
> > > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail link, etc., as
> > usual,
> > > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > > >
> > > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > > >
> > > > What else is new?
> > > >
> > > > Alan
> > > >
> > >
> > > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated about the stadium
> > > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets were ever
really
> > > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the downtown
> > stadium
> > > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face it, NY is
Giants
> > > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are and have
always
> > > been the other NYC football team. And in order to insure their
> > second-
> > > class citizenship they are going to share a facility with the
> > Giants,
> > > in Jersey!!
> > >
> > > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not committed to
having
> > > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium but I guess
that
> > is
> > > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> > >
> >        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > country."
> >
> > With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true JETS fan!
> >
> >
> >
> >
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> Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just
> last year I was beginning to think i would never
> meet anyone. I'm 25 already and I thought it was all
> over. After some recommendations from a buddy I
> joined up here: http://www.meetemhookup.info/omre
> and after 2 weeks I was already meeting up with a
> beauty. Well, 14 months later and where still
> together and planning our marriage for later this
> year =)
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i agree, i think woody johnson knows jack shit about football, and i'll bet leon
hess is turning over in his grave, johnson made it clear he's not gonna go after
any 1st tier free agents to better the team, and i think terry bradway sucks as
a gm as well, my fellow jet fans, i fear we may be in for a bad stretch here,
hopefully i am wrong here, all i know is we went from one kick away from the afc
title game to 4-12, so there's something certainly amiss here.
   ken

"Alan R. Ostrowitz" <ostrow.law@...> wrote:
   Let's face it, Woody Johnson was just trying to hose the City and State
of New York, and its taxpayers into financing his real estate venture.
It looks like he just bought the Jets to increase his real estate
holdings on the West Side of New York.  Now that that has fallen
through, he has no further interest in the Jets.   Look at what's
happened this season, how did he let everything disintegrate like it did?

My bet is that he unloads the Jets shortly.

Same scenario as the Nets in Brooklyn, when the real estate venture
falls through, the owner will unload the team.  Just that the Nets owner
has less qualms about letting his true intentions show.

The team is just a shell -- the real "prize" is the real estate -- and
getting the unwitting taxpayers to foot the bill for as much of the
improvements as possible.

Alan



bobby696906 wrote:
> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611" <lwc611@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "ostrowlaw"
> > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had seasons tix at
> Shea
> > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my own seats
> (started
> > out
> > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > >
> > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for the new
> Giants/Jets
> > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/   Giants and Jets
> > > management, sit in their heated and air conditioned sky boxes,
> > milking
> > > the fans of everything they can possibly get, wresting every
> nickel
> > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and influence our
> > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they promise us a
> dome.
> > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after defrauding the
> state
> > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail link, etc., as
> usual,
> > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > >
> > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > >
> > > What else is new?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> >
> > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated about the stadium
> > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets were ever really
> > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the downtown
> stadium
> > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are and have always
> > been the other NYC football team. And in order to insure their
> second-
> > class citizenship they are going to share a facility with the
> Giants,
> > in Jersey!!
> >
> > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not committed to having
> > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium but I guess that
> is
> > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> >
>        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> country."
>
> With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true JETS fan!
>
>
>
>
>
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welcome bobby what do you think about coach edwards
leaving

--- bobby696906 <bobby696906@...> wrote:

> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611"
> <lwc611@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com,
> "ostrowlaw"
> > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had
> seasons tix at
> Shea
> > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my
> own seats
> (started
> > out
> > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > >
> > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for
> the new
> Giants/Jets
> > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/
> Giants and Jets
> > > management, sit in their heated and air
> conditioned sky boxes,
> > milking
> > > the fans of everything they can possibly get,
> wresting every
> nickel
> > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and
> influence our
> > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they
> promise us a
> dome.
> > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after
> defrauding the
> state
> > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail
> link, etc., as
> usual,
> > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > >
> > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > >
> > > What else is new?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> >
> > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated
> about the stadium
> > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets
> were ever really
> > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the
> downtown
> stadium
> > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face
> it, NY is Giants
> > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are
> and have always
> > been the other NYC football team. And in order to
> insure their
> second-
> > class citizenship they are going to share a
> facility with the
> Giants,
> > in Jersey!!
> >
> > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not
> committed to having
> > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium
> but I guess that
> is
> > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> >
>        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
>  country."
>
>  With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true
> JETS fan!
>
>
>
>
>


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Let's face it, Woody Johnson was just trying to hose the City and State
of New York, and its taxpayers into financing his real estate venture.
It looks like he just bought the Jets to increase his real estate
holdings on the West Side of New York.  Now that that has fallen
through, he has no further interest in the Jets.   Look at what's
happened this season, how did he let everything disintegrate like it did?

My bet is that he unloads the Jets shortly.

Same scenario as the Nets in Brooklyn, when the real estate venture
falls through, the owner will unload the team.  Just that the Nets owner
has less qualms about letting his true intentions show.

The team is just a shell -- the real "prize" is the real estate -- and
getting the unwitting taxpayers to foot the bill for as much of the
improvements as possible.

Alan



bobby696906 wrote:
> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611" <lwc611@...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "ostrowlaw"
> > <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> > >
> > > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> > >
> > > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had seasons tix at
> Shea
> > > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my own seats
> (started
> > out
> > > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> > >
> > > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for the new
> Giants/Jets
> > > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/   Giants and Jets
> > > management, sit in their heated and air conditioned sky boxes,
> > milking
> > > the fans of everything they can possibly get, wresting every
> nickel
> > > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and influence our
> > > politicians to back to new stadium, while they promise us a
> dome.
> > > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after defrauding the
> state
> > > into paying for the improvements, a new rail link, etc., as
> usual,
> > > they turn around and screw us all.
> > >
> > > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> > >
> > > What else is new?
> > >
> > > Alan
> > >
> >
> > I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated about the stadium
> > question for a different reason.  Were the Jets were ever really
> > interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the downtown
> stadium
> > was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face it, NY is Giants
> > country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are and have always
> > been the other NYC football team. And in order to insure their
> second-
> > class citizenship they are going to share a facility with the
> Giants,
> > in Jersey!!
> >
> > Once they lost the downtown deal they were not committed to having
> > thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium but I guess that
> is
> > not going to happen in my lifetime.
> >
>        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
> country."
>
> With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true JETS fan!
>
>
>
>
>
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--- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "suzan-johnston130@..." <suzan-
johnston130@...> wrote:
>
> Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just last year I was
beginning to think i would never meet anyone. I'm 25 already and I
thought it was all over. After some recommendations from a buddy I
joined up here: http://www.meetemhookup.info/omre and after 2 weeks I
was already meeting up with a beauty. Well, 14 months later and where
still together and planning our marriage for later this year =)
>
WHAT?  Who let this crap on here????????????

--- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "lwc611" <lwc611@...> wrote:
>
> --- In officialjetsclub@yahoogroups.com, "ostrowlaw"
> <ostrow.law@v...> wrote:
> >
> > I am a new member -- hello everyone.
> >
> > I've been a Jets fan since 1967, my father had seasons tix at
Shea
> > from 1967 - 1972 (or thereabouts), and I got my own seats
(started
> out
> > under the scoreboard) in 1985.
> >
> > I just took a look at the new "master plan" for the new
Giants/Jets
> > stadium.  http://www.newyorkjets.com/news/   Giants and Jets
> > management, sit in their heated and air conditioned sky boxes,
> milking
> > the fans of everything they can possibly get, wresting every
nickel
> > and dime they can from us.  We believe them and influence our
> > politicians to back to new stadium, while they promise us a
dome.
> > Then, when their new stadium is in hand, after defrauding the
state
> > into paying for the improvements, a new rail link, etc., as
usual,
> > they turn around and screw us all.
> >
> > No dome.  Just more sky boxes.  More B.S.
> >
> > What else is new?
> >
> > Alan
> >
>
> I am a Jets fan as well, but I and frustrated about the stadium
> question for a different reason.  Were the Jets were ever really
> interseted in their own stadium?  The push for the downtown
stadium
> was the farce. That was the snow job.  Let's face it, NY is Giants
> country. Even having won a superbowl, The Jets are and have always
> been the other NYC football team. And in order to insure their
second-
> class citizenship they are going to share a facility with the
Giants,
> in Jersey!!
>
> Once they lost the downtown deal they were not committed to having
> thier own house.  The Jets need their own stadium but I guess that
is
> not going to happen in my lifetime.
>
        "Let's face it, NY is Giants
  country."

  With this sentence alone, your obviously NOT a true JETS fan!

Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just last year I was beginning to
think i would never meet anyone. I'm 25 already and I thought it was all over.
After some recommendations from a buddy I joined up here:
http://www.meetemhookup.info/omre and after 2 weeks I was already meeting up
with a beauty. Well, 14 months later and where still together and planning our
marriage for later this year =)

Thought i would share something with ya'll. Great fun and it does actually work.
Met my girl on here, http://www.onlinemeetingplace.info/ngmb and so far it's
been the best year of my life ever! Wish you all the same happiness.

Met my fiance  here! hehe. Thought I should share it with any other guys
who are worried about ending up alone like I was. Check it out
http://www.lookwatwehavehereyo.info/sizn

Well even if you're not looking for love, and just a bit of fun thought I'd give
you all this tip. So you can stay away from all the BS fake profiles places.
This is what I've been using http://www.thedatesite.info/utsq . No joke, I've
messaged about 5 women close to me and already 3 have responded, and I am
already organising to meet up with one. Not bad for a guy who hasn't had a date
in a while, lol! :)

Well I just got engaged! I can't believe it, just last year I was beginning to
think i would never meet anyone. I'm 25 already and I thought it was all over.
After some recommendations from a buddy       I joined up here:
http://www.onlinemeetingplace.info/lmgr and after 2 weeks I was already meeting
up with a beauty. Well, 14 months later and where still together and planning
our marriage for later this year =)

Just thought I should pass on my knowledge to all you guys (and gals) on here. I
know just like heaps of other men I am pretty shy when it comes to going up to
someone. I've tried a few different places (clubs, bars, etc) but never seem to
have too much luck. Anyway, a few weeks   ago I joined up to
http://www.thesinglesite.info/mhrl and I have to say I am already getting
excited. I was beginning to think I'd end up being alone for ever, but already
been talking to a few interested ladies on there. Anyway, if you're like me it
comes highly recommended!

Well even if you're not looking for love, and just a bit of fun thought I'd give
you all this tip. So you can stay away from all the BS fake profiles places.
This is what I've been using http://www.lovesearcherz.info/szaf . No joke, I've
messaged about 5 women close to me and already 3 have responded, and I am
already organising to meet up with one. Not bad for a guy who hasn't had a date
in a while, lol! :)

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