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From: Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 4:24 am
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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if u think u can tell whats going on with jackson and favre by watching the few times they show the sideline on fox you really are not getting your information from a valid source. i actually go to the dome and watch the vikes and jackson is always in the little qb group with the qb coach. and anyways we have no idea whats goin on in practice, for all we know jackson is blowing favre. but what we do know is tavaris jackson is going to get another opportunity to be a starting qb either after favre leaves us or with another team and i wouldnt be surprised if jackson doesnt lead another team to the playoffs in his career and makes himself an above average starting qb. he has the arm strength, he can run, and last year he showed he had the poise which he was missing when he had his poorly played games.

--- On Mon, 11/16/09, Buffster <Mbuffster@...> wrote:

From: Buffster <Mbuffster@...>
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, November 16, 2009, 9:38 PM

Favre has been great as a Viking - Enjoy the ride - its awesome!!!

T-Jack sucks and will be out of purple soon; he must be smoking dope (oh sorry shooting the bull because he is never anywhere near Favre on the sideline while Sage has sucked it up and is doing all he can to help by being involved, consulting with Favre, analyzing photos, and most likely saying great job)!!! JUST WATCH THE DARN SIDELINE!!!

The Vikes need to draft a quality QB next year and hope Favre sticks around for another year or two so that he can learn from a master!!!

End of story!!!

Go Vikings!!!

P.S. Buddah-Jack will never get it - meaning both the pretend QB and his most loyal fan who have truly become one!!!

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@.. .> wrote:
>
> Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.
>
> Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
> 2006 62.5
> 2007 70.8
> 2008 95.4
>
> TD vs INT
> 2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
> 2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
> 2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)
>
> A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.
>
> Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against. Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.
>
> Here this is a new Jackson article...
> http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html
>
>
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@> wrote:
> >
> > Cajun,
> >
> > Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
> >
> > The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
> >
> > Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
> >
> > Buffster
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> > >
> > > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> > >
> > > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> > >
> > > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > > >
> > > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > > >
> > > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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#2073

From: "Buffster" <Mbuffster@...>
Date: Tue Nov 17, 2009 2:38 am
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Favre has been great as a Viking - Enjoy the ride - its awesome!!!

T-Jack sucks and will be out of purple soon; he must be smoking dope (oh sorry
shooting the bull because he is never anywhere near Favre on the sideline while
Sage has sucked it up and is doing all he can to help by being involved,
consulting with Favre, analyzing photos, and most likely saying great job)!!! 
JUST WATCH THE DARN SIDELINE!!!

The Vikes need to draft a quality QB next year and hope Favre sticks around for
another year or two so that he can learn from a master!!!

End of story!!!

Go Vikings!!!

P.S. Buddah-Jack will never get it - meaning both the pretend QB and his most
loyal fan who have truly become one!!!



--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@...> wrote:
>
> Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since
joining this group.  Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should
have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line.
You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as
you are.  Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a
shrink.  Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who
EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against.  I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings'
fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. 
I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. 
It is getting old.  Dope smoking?  No, you are the dope.
>
> Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team.  His QB Rating:
> 2006 62.5
> 2007 70.8
> 2008 95.4
>
> TD vs INT
> 2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
> 2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
> 2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)
>
> A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler,
5 INTs in 1 game?  Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high
level.  It takes time.  Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in
the towel at the first sign of failure.  Failure happens with every QB.
>
> Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as
a target last year, would he has been replaced?  Not to mention Loadholt instead
of Cook on the right side.  I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is
ridiculous to do so.  I am just saying that I rather win with him than an
ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against.  Buffster, why can't you
understand that?  Enjoy the season and forget about me.
>
> Here this is a new Jackson article...
> http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/70077572.html
>
>
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@> wrote:
> >
> > Cajun,
> >
> > Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah.  Put simply, he does not
get it.  Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our
team.  T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him
makes no sense.  The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon
bagging groceries at Shoppers.  Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the
way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard
from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is 
unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
> >
> > The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! 
This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!!  Our biggest and only
real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play
that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but,
sadly, this is highly unlikely.
> >
> > Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
> >
> > Buffster
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it
his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would
be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another.  Big
difference.
> > >
> > > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or
another for all of eternity is foolish.  For instance, I have had no problem
watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the
hated Red Sox.  In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a
player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World
Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this
year.  And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching
Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end
of the NFL season.
> > >
> > > Let it go, Buddah.  Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. 
He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious
career.  And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for
all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. 
Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record
against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old
one-finger salute with both barrels.  But that was then and this is now.  And
right now, he is making things happen for us.  Hopefully, all the way to the
Super Bowl.  Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> > >
> > > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint.  I want to report that the
NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week.  This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. 
See you all there.
> > > >
> > > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all
good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's?  If so, you would have
heard cheers when Rodgers went down.  It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to
cheer that whether it is right or wrong.  I guess I don't really wish Favre
harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field.  In truth,
I just want Jackson back.  I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept
the feeling of selling out.  Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. 
I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > > >
> > > > Cajun, no, I will not come around.  Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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#2072

From: Bryan Roettger <bredker1@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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Haha I know - saying anything about t-Jack b/c of his performance yesterday in the 3 plays he was in just shows that you don't know what you're talking about. And I'm a favre fan.

Also a shout out to the Mackey's servers - fantastic job!

On Nov 16, 2009, at 12:01 AM, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...> wrote:

dude he played in garbage time haha, sidney rice dropped his pass, thats why rice was doin pushups on the sideline

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Debbie Rice <debbiehollings@yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Debbie Rice <debbiehollings@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 10:21 PM

So true Brian..... especially after seeing him today....A couple of years ago, I wanted to think he'd be the purple Jesus... but it's not happening... and it never will....We need to draft a franchise QB...next draft.....

From: Brian Mark <bmarkdc@yahoo. com>
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:04:15 AM
Subject: RE: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Jackson sucks end of story

From: Buddah <albuddah@yahoo. com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:48 AM
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2071

From: Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 5:01 am
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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dude he played in garbage time haha, sidney rice dropped his pass, thats why rice was doin pushups on the sideline

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Debbie Rice <debbiehollings@...> wrote:

From: Debbie Rice <debbiehollings@...>
Subject: Re: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 10:21 PM

So true Brian..... especially after seeing him today....A couple of years ago, I wanted to think he'd be the purple Jesus... but it's not happening... and it never will....We need to draft a franchise QB...next draft.....

From: Brian Mark <bmarkdc@yahoo. com>
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:04:15 AM
Subject: RE: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Jackson sucks end of story

From: Buddah <albuddah@yahoo. com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:48 AM
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2070

From: Debbie Rice <debbiehollings@...>
Date: Mon Nov 16, 2009 3:21 am
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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So true Brian..... especially after seeing him today....A couple of years ago, I wanted to think he'd be the purple Jesus... but it's not happening...and it never will....We need to draft a franchise QB...next draft.....

From: Brian Mark <bmarkdc@...>
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 10:04:15 AM
Subject: RE: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Jackson sucks end of story

From: Buddah <albuddah@yahoo. com>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:48 AM
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/70077572.html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2069

From: Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 3:48 am
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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yep jackson is the future...not many qbs can put 60 yard passes on the dime, and he can run, jacksons going to get another opportunity or opportunities to start in the nfl. he's too talented. but whoever said favre is doin what jackson cant is exactly right on...tj couldnt do any of this.....favre is like our andy pettitte....i hope we smash the lions tomorrow, every frickin lions game is the toughest game for us

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, gmkvikes <gmkvikes@...> wrote:

From: gmkvikes <gmkvikes@...>
Subject: Re: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 8:28 PM

Guys,

Favre is awesome, he is doing what Jackson couldnt do last year. However we should not give up on Jackson, if he takes advantage of Favre's experience I think has the raw talent, he just needs to learn the decison making.

Remember Jackson won 8 of 12 games his first season. Since then he hasnt done great but compared to QBs around the league is in the mix. Favre has some bad years, so did Peyton manning, those are learning years

1-2 years from now we need a quarterback, Favre will eventually retire.

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Trevor Williams <trevor88888@ yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Trevor Williams <trevor88888@ yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 3:13 PM

Totally agree with you there Buddah.

Buffster is like the type of fans that make most sports-related message boards useless. If possible, I would have put him on 'ignore' long ago. It's ok to dislike certain players, and to be passionate about sports, but comments like his last post are completely worthless and totally uncalled for.

From: Buddah <albuddah@yahoo. com>
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 9:48:41 AM
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against. Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2068

From: gmkvikes <gmkvikes@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:28 am
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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Guys,

Favre is awesome, he is doing what Jackson couldnt do last year. However we should not give up on Jackson, if he takes advantage of Favre's experience I think has the raw talent, he just needs to learn the decison making.

Remember Jackson won 8 of 12 games his first season. Since then he hasnt done great but compared to QBs around the league is in the mix. Favre has some bad years, so did Peyton manning, those are learning years

1-2 years from now we need a quarterback, Favre will eventually retire.

--- On Sat, 11/14/09, Trevor Williams <trevor88888@...> wrote:

From: Trevor Williams <trevor88888@...>
Subject: Re: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, November 14, 2009, 3:13 PM

Totally agree with you there Buddah.

Buffster is like the type of fans that make most sports-related message boards useless. If possible, I would have put him on 'ignore' long ago. It's ok to dislike certain players, and to be passionate about sports, but comments like his last post are completely worthless and totally uncalled for.

From: Buddah <albuddah@yahoo. com>
To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 9:48:41 AM
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against. Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2067

From: Gordon Kranz <gmkvikes@...>
Date: Sun Nov 15, 2009 1:11 am
Subject: Re: Re: Strategy for Lions?

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I agree with holding out Winfield and Berrian, Farve and Peterson should be pulled in late 3rd Qtr if we are up by 17 or more and have been dominating to that point. Must play to win each game then prudently give rest and experience to get through next 8 games.

Although any given team can win any given sunday our team needs to produce on every given sunday in prep for the playoffs. Once we get in we need to have the mindset to go all the way.
.
--- On Fri, 11/6/09, Rusty <James.OBrien.ctr@...> wrote:

From: Rusty <James.OBrien.ctr@...>
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Strategy for Lions?
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 6, 2009, 5:58 PM

Good points as always Bill. Minnesota media is indicating Winfield may indeed be held out another week as a precaution. That was part of the thinking in my post. The substitute DBs have done well without him against Steelers (Ben) and Packers (Rodgers) ... playing it safe with one or two valuable components to the rest of the season may be the smart thing to do.

Rusty

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Bill" <wharrison55@ ...> wrote:
>
> I don't have any problem with going to second stringers once the game's in the bag. As for Berrian and Winfield, as I said earlier if they're cleared to play they should play and I'm sure both want to. Frankly, I was shocked to see Berrian out there for the Packers game as hamstrings tend to be chronic.
>
> As for Chili's decision to pass on the goal line against Pittsburgh I generally agree with his decision as Peterson went no where and Pittsburgh has a great 3-4 run defense especially with that short of a field. If Kleinsasser holds onto that ball in the endzone no one would be talking about it.
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Rusty" <James.OBrien. ctr@> wrote:
> >
> > Bill --
> >
> > Issue #2 first -- agree Chilly is handling game decisions better, but there is still room for improvement (passing 2 of 3 tries on 1 yard line vs Steelers then giving up and going for FG, etc.)
> >
> > Issue #1 -- I agree to play starters until a first round bye is in the bag. My question really focused on would it be smart to give some key starters who are older/slightly hurt a rest if they are up by 14 or so points in the 4th quarter. They get rest and you give valuable playing time to those you may need later (including playoffs) ... like Robison, TJ, second tier WR's, backup CBs.
> >
> > Not suggesting you put in second team wholesale, just a select few, and you can always put the key players back in.
> >
> > My corollary point was it may be smart to rest either Berrien or Winfield next week if they are not 100%.
> >
> > Comments?
> >
> > Rusty
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Bill" <wharrison55@ > wrote:
> > >
> > > I agree with Al. Until such time as a first round bye is assured, everyone plays who's medically cleared to play.
> > >
> > > On a side note, can we get a little love goin' for Coach Chili? General consensus around the league is that him and the Vikes staff thoroughly outcoached the Puker staff in both contests.
> > >
> > > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rusty,
> > > >
> > > > We were losing to Detroit at halftime last game. If Oakland could beat up Philly, then anything can happen on any given Sunday. Childress will keep the game conservative as always and if we make mistakes any team can take the game away from us. Remember the tripping call in Pittsburgh? If you don't stomp a mudhole into your opponents then you invite plays/calls like that to steal a win from us.
> > > >
> > > > Al
> > > >
> > > > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Rusty" <James.OBrien. ctr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you folks think the Viking personnel strategy should be for the Lions game? Given Al's valid point that the Vikings should not take anyone lightly, should they go all out or throttle slightly back and rest key players for tougher games that come later?
> > > > >
> > > > > - Don't play Winfield another week?
> > > > > - Don't play Berrien if the hamstring is not 100%?
> > > > > - Is it too risky to have Harvin field punts?
> > > > > - Pull Farve in the 3rd quarter if up by more than 14 points?
> > > > > - Rest key starters in 4th if up by more than 14 (Allen, AD, Rice)?
> > > > >
> > > > > Remember -- sitting and/or resting players gives valuable playing time to others who may be needed later (TJ, Johnson, Reynaud, Lewis, Robison, etc.).
> > > > >
> > > > > Or should they take advantage of (hopefully) a weaker opponent to get the rush stats for AD up?
> > > > >
> > > > > If you believe it is better to rest a few key players when able, does this apply to Seattle game also?
> > > > >
> > > > > Rusty
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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#2066

From: Trevor Williams <trevor88888@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:13 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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Totally agree with you there Buddah.

Buffster is like the type of fans that make most sports-related message boards useless. If possible, I would have put him on 'ignore' long ago. It's ok to dislike certain players, and to be passionate about sports, but comments like his last post are completely worthless and totally uncalled for.

From: Buddah <albuddah@...>
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, November 14, 2009 9:48:41 AM
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against. Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startrib une.com/sports/ vikings/70077572 .html

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@. ..> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2065

From: Brian Mark <bmarkdc@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 3:04 pm
Subject: RE: Re: Da Bears

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Jackson sucks end of story

From: Buddah <albuddah@...>
Sent: Saturday, November 14, 2009 9:48 AM
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining this group. Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line. You Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you are. Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a shrink. Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against. I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings' fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. It is getting old. Dope smoking? No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team. His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5 INTs in 1 game? Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. It takes time. Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel at the first sign of failure. Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a target last year, would he has been replaced? Not to mention Loadholt instead of Cook on the right side. I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is ridiculous to do so. I am just saying that I rather win with him than an ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against Buffster, why can't you understand that? Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startribunecom/sports/vikings/70077572.html

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@...> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah. Put simply, he does not get it. Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes no sense. The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon bagging groceries at Shoppers. Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!! Our biggest and only real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but, sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2064

From: "Buddah" <albuddah@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:48 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Buff, I may have agreed with some of your statements maybe 3 times since joining
this group.  Hey, a difference of opinion is okay with me, and we should have
the right to express ourselves here freely, but today you crossed the line.  You
Sir, are an idiot and your statements about dope smoking is as ridiculous as you
are.  Your hatred towards Jackson goes beyond the norm, and you should see a
shrink.  Yes, I have a hatred towards Favre, but at least he was the enemy who
EVERY faithful Viking fan rooted against.  I don't begrudge my fellow Vikings'
fans from loving the fact he is now a Viking, even if it churns at my stomach. 
I can respect their desire to win, as I do yours, but come off your high horse. 
It is getting old.  Dope smoking?  No, you are the dope.

Jackson has improved in every year he has been on the team.  His QB Rating:
2006 62.5
2007 70.8
2008 95.4

TD vs INT
2006 2 vs 4 (4 games)
2007 9 vs 12 (12 games)
2008 9 vs 2 (9 games)

A fan could look at these stats and see the vast improvement. Look at Cutler, 5
INTs in 1 game?  Not everybody has what it takes to be a QB at this high level. 
It takes time.  Under the "Buff" philosophy, you give up and throw in the towel
at the first sign of failure.  Failure happens with every QB.

Seeing what a healthy Rice can do, you wonder if Jackson had him and Harvin as a
target last year, would he has been replaced?  Not to mention Loadholt instead
of Cook on the right side.  I won't compare Jackson to Favre because it is
ridiculous to do so.  I am just saying that I rather win with him than an
ex-Packer that I spent so many years rooting against.  Buffster, why can't you
understand that?  Enjoy the season and forget about me.

Here this is a new Jackson article...
http://www.startribune.com/sports/vikings/70077572.html

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buffster" <Mbuffster@...> wrote:
>
> Cajun,
>
> Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah.  Put simply, he does not
get it.  Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our
team.  T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him
makes no sense.  The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon
bagging groceries at Shoppers.  Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the
way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard
from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is 
unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.
>
> The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! 
This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!!  Our biggest and only
real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play
that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but,
sadly, this is highly unlikely.
>
> Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!
>
> Buffster
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his
coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be
changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another.  Big difference.
> >
> > In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another
for all of eternity is foolish.  For instance, I have had no problem watching
Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red
Sox.  In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player
that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion
this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. 
And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre
hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the
NFL season.
> >
> > Let it go, Buddah.  Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires.  He
is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. 
And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those
years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings.  Hey, I was
there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes
- and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with
both barrels.  But that was then and this is now.  And right now, he is making
things happen for us.  Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl.  Join in the
fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint.  I want to report that the
NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week.  This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. 
See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good,
but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's?  If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down.  It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer
that whether it is right or wrong.  I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but
a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field.  In truth, I just
want Jackson back.  I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the
feeling of selling out.  Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year.  I
just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> > >
> > > Cajun, no, I will not come around.  Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> > >
> >
>

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#2063

From: "Buffster" <Mbuffster@...>
Date: Sat Nov 14, 2009 2:28 am
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Cajun,

Would suggest you stop wasting your time on Buddah.  Put simply, he does not get
it.  Favre is a Viking and we are most fortunate to have him leading our team. 
T-Jack and Buddah must be lovers or something, because his loyalty to him makes
no sense.  The guy simple can't play QB and will be out of the league soon
bagging groceries at Shoppers.  Buddah's incredible love for T-Jack (oh by the
way where is the guy on the sideline during games - no where to be seen or heard
from as Favre consults with Sage while T-Jack is off smoking dope) is 
unbreakable and impossible to penetrate.

The Vikings are Rocking this year and we need to enjoy it to the fullest!!! 
This team has a real shot and Favre is a big part of it!!!  Our biggest and only
real weakness on this team is the Safety position - perhaps T-Jack could play
that position and then Buddah may let it rest for at least a day or two but,
sadly, this is highly unlikely.

Go FAVRE - GO VIKES beat the Lions!!!

Buffster

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@...> wrote:
>
> Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his
coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be
changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another.  Big difference.
>
> In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another
for all of eternity is foolish.  For instance, I have had no problem watching
Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red
Sox.  In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player
that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion
this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. 
And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre
hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the
NFL season.
>
> Let it go, Buddah.  Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires.  He is
having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career.  And
that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those
years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings.  Hey, I was
there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes
- and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with
both barrels.  But that was then and this is now.  And right now, he is making
things happen for us.  Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl.  Join in the
fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> >
> > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint.  I want to report that the NFL
has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week.  This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. 
See you all there.
> >
> > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good,
but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's?  If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down.  It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer
that whether it is right or wrong.  I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but
a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field.  In truth, I just
want Jackson back.  I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the
feeling of selling out.  Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year.  I
just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
> >
> > Cajun, no, I will not come around.  Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> >
>

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#2062

From: Brian Johnson <bjohnsonmd@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:43 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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Interesting thread. I have been a Viking fan for life and grew up in MN watching them with my dad, including going to a game in Met Stadium. I don't know what I would do if they moved. It would definitely lessen the Packer rivalry as alot of that comes from the proximity of the two teams. I think I would be bitter at the owner and would have mixed feelings about the team which would eventually become a completely new team after a few years of turnover.

I lived in Baltimore for much of the 90's when they went from no team to cheering for the CFL "Colts". I felt Modell totally screwed over the poor fans of Cleveland when he moved the "Browns" team to Balto. I know the Baltimore fans deserved a team but I could not embrace them even as an "AFC mistress" team because of the way they got there.

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Cajun <cajunvike@...> wrote:

From: Cajun <cajunvike@...>
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 4:17 PM

Of course, there are exceptions to changing loyalties - but this instance isn't one of them.

The fans of the Colts in Baltimore should rightfully have abandoned the Colts once Irsay screwed them over. I lived in Houston when Asshole Bud Adams screwed over the Houston fans and they should have rightfully abandoned the Oilers/Titans when he did so as well. Same should have happened when the Cards left St. Louis, the Rams left LA, and when the Raiders left Oakland originally (or when they left LA to go back to Oakland). But that is the extreme case. Hating the ownership shouldn't change your team loyalties (but boycotting the games, not buying merchandise and slamming the owners in the media via letters to the editor, blogging, and email barrages are all acceptable alternatives) . As for the "buying championships" thing, as long as the owner is trying to win titles for MY team and it doesn't cost ME anything more, I'm all for it. In fact, the money argument is the purview of whiny fans who don't have the balls to tell their own billionaire owners to pony up more cash to players instead of hoarding it for themselves. Or don't you remember how cheap Red McCombs was when he was the Vikings owner? That cheap bastard wouldn't let Tice hire enough assistants to field a respectable staff, among other things. In fact, if more owners spent more on salaries for players and outbid the Yankees, the payroll disparity would have long disappeared. Good luck getting that salary cap passed in MLB without the owners being willing to sacrifice an entire season ala the NHL. For the record, I have no problem with a salary cap in baseball. It will only make it easier for me when the Yankees still win their share of titles. LOL

BTW, this year's Yankee roster contained a higher percentage of "homegrown" players than all but one team in the majors (Colorado) and led the entire AL in that catagory. Odd that no Mets, Cubs or Red Sox fans were "morally repulsed" by those teams' high salaries, especially the Red Sox fans when they "bought" those two titles in 2004 and 2007. On that note, we will drop the baseball discussion.

As for the Redskins, when the ignorant Redskins fan base finally realizes that Snyder is only in it for the money, then they will finally start to show their displeasure by boycotting games. That will probably happen in about 20 years from now. In other words, never. LOL

Finally, the answer to your last question is that a fan can leave whenever he or she chooses. But the rest of us say to them, "Don't ever come back". Also, a fan risks his or her own credibility as a fan if he or she changes teams every time something bad happens. So, basically, a fan should not change teams unless something like the team moves or a similar drastic measure is taken and once they do, they should consider carefully which team to root for because if they end up not liking their new team and decide to choose another, they will eventually have no credibility whatsoever as a fan of any team.

Sorry for the long diatribe, but you did bring up valid points that warranted addressing.

Luckily for us all, we are all diehard Vikings fans who will never leave our own team. GO VIKINGS!!!!! !!!

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, Trevor Williams <trevor88888@ ...> wrote:
>
> You raise some interesting points there Cajun.
>
> I've always been a firm believer in 'stick with your team no matter what'. I picked the Vikings when I was 6 or so, and I'll bleed purple to the day I die, no matter what.
>
> But is that really the 'right' thing to do? Do franchises/owners deserve our unwavering loyalty in ALL circumstances? There are a lot of variables to consider.
>
> What do poor Colts fans do when the owner moves their team to another city? Stick with the franchise despite an owner doing something like that in the way that he did it? And then not be a fan of an owner/team that moves into town to give the city back something they lost?
>
> What if you are philosophically opposed to 'buying championships' ? I could see a Yankee or Red Sox fan from the early days hating how the team operates currently. Sure they are within the rules, and maybe there are better examples of teams that were once more 'home grown' and now more 'mercenary'; but I have no problem with a former fan being morally repulsed by what the Yankees are doing and abandoning them.
>
> What about Redskin fans? A once proud and glorious franchise sunk by a crappy owner that treats it's fans horribly. Should the 50 year season ticket holder, now a recent widow and unable to pay for her season tickets, still be a fan of the team that sued her?
>
> I get the 'love the team, hate the owner (or coach or player)' thing, but the line is fuzzy sometimes. How long can a franchise do all the wrong things before it is 'ok', to switch allegiances?
>
>
>
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ __
> From: Cajun <cajunvike@. ..>
> To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:10:41 PM
> Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
>
>
> Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
>
> In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.
>
> Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P
>

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#2061

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:18 pm
Subject: In the immortal words of Martin Luther King

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"Can't we all just get along?"

Oh wait, that was Rodney King.  My bad. :-)

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#2060

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 9:17 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Of course, there are exceptions to changing loyalties - but this instance isn't
one of them.

The fans of the Colts in Baltimore should rightfully have abandoned the Colts
once Irsay screwed them over.  I lived in Houston when Asshole Bud Adams screwed
over the Houston fans and they should have rightfully abandoned the
Oilers/Titans when he did so as well.  Same should have happened when the Cards
left St. Louis, the Rams left LA, and when the Raiders left Oakland originally
(or when they left LA to go back to Oakland).  But that is the extreme case. 
Hating the ownership shouldn't change your team loyalties (but boycotting the
games, not buying merchandise and slamming the owners in the media via letters
to the editor, blogging, and email barrages are all acceptable alternatives). 
As for the "buying championships" thing, as long as the owner is trying to win
titles for MY team and it doesn't cost ME anything more, I'm all for it.  In
fact, the money argument is the purview of whiny fans who don't have the balls
to tell their own billionaire owners to pony up more cash to players instead of
hoarding it for themselves.  Or don't you remember how cheap Red McCombs was
when he was the Vikings owner?  That cheap bastard wouldn't let Tice hire enough
assistants to field a respectable staff, among other things.  In fact, if more
owners spent more on salaries for players and outbid the Yankees, the payroll
disparity would have long disappeared.  Good luck getting that salary cap passed
in MLB without the owners being willing to sacrifice an entire season ala the
NHL.  For the record, I have no problem with a salary cap in baseball.  It will
only make it easier for me when the Yankees still win their share of titles. 
LOL

BTW, this year's Yankee roster contained a higher percentage of "homegrown"
players than all but one team in the majors (Colorado) and led the entire AL in
that catagory.  Odd that no Mets, Cubs or Red Sox fans were "morally repulsed"
by those teams' high salaries, especially the Red Sox fans when they "bought"
those two titles in 2004 and 2007.  On that note, we will drop the baseball
discussion.

As for the Redskins, when the ignorant Redskins fan base finally realizes that
Snyder is only in it for the money, then they will finally start to show their
displeasure by boycotting games.  That will probably happen in about 20 years
from now.  In other words, never.  LOL

Finally, the answer to your last question is that a fan can leave whenever he or
she chooses.  But the rest of us say to them, "Don't ever come back".  Also, a
fan risks his or her own credibility as a fan if he or she changes teams every
time something bad happens.  So, basically, a fan should not change teams unless
something like the team moves or a similar drastic measure is taken and once
they do, they should consider carefully which team to root for because if they
end up not liking their new team and decide to choose another, they will
eventually have no credibility whatsoever as a fan of any team.

Sorry for the long diatribe, but you did bring up valid points that warranted
addressing.

Luckily for us all, we are all diehard Vikings fans who will never leave our own
team. GO VIKINGS!!!!!!!!

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Trevor Williams <trevor88888@...> wrote:
>
> You raise some interesting points there Cajun.
>
> I've always been a firm believer in 'stick with your team no matter what'.� I
picked the Vikings when I was 6 or so, and I'll bleed purple to the day I die,
no matter what.
>
> But is that really the 'right' thing to do?� Do franchises/owners deserve�our
unwavering loyalty in ALL circumstances?� There are a lot of variables to
consider.
>
> What do poor Colts fans do when the owner moves their team to another city?�
Stick with the franchise despite an owner doing something like that in the way
that he did it?� And then not be a fan of an owner/team that moves into town to
give the city back something they lost?
>
> What if you are philosophically opposed to 'buying championships'?� I could
see a Yankee or Red Sox fan from the early days hating how the team operates
currently.� Sure they are within the rules, and maybe there are better examples
of teams that were once more 'home grown' and now more 'mercenary'; but I have
no problem with a former fan being morally repulsed by what the Yankees are
doing and abandoning them.
>
> What about Redskin fans?� A once proud and glorious franchise sunk by a crappy
owner that treats it's fans horribly.� Should the�50 year�season ticket holder,
now a recent widow and unable to pay for her season tickets, still be a fan of
the team that sued her?
>
> I get the 'love the team, hate the owner (or coach or player)' thing, but the
line is fuzzy sometimes.� How long can a franchise do all the wrong things
before it is 'ok', to switch allegiances?
>
> �
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Cajun <cajunvike@...>
> To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:10:41 PM
> Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
>
> �
> Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his
coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be
changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.
>
> In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another
for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching
Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red
Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player
that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion
this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year.
And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre
hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the
NFL season.
>
> Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is
having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And
that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those
years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was
there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes
- and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with
both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making
things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun,
Buddah - you are missing out! :P
>

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#2059

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 8:55 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Trust me, I have NO desire to "poke" you.  LOL

But you WILL eventually come around to "the Favre way". :-)

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@...> wrote:
>
>
> I know where you live Craig.  Keep poking the postal worker.
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Some Webmaster we have there...can't even keep the posters straight in a
simple blog chain!  :P :D
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh sorry Chris, I meant Brian.  He just was quoted with your name as
such..."Chris go ahead and say what you want go Vikes don't listen to Buddah he
is the same idiot that said he hopes that Favre gets injured and that he was not
going to watch any Vikings games this year.SKool VIkes ban Budah"
> > >
> > > My bad, sorry.  You're just that Yankee bandwagon jumper I was supposed to
ban.  :P
> > >
> > > Al
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But
what are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man.�its all good buddah
> > > >
> > > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: Buddah <albuddah@>
> > > > Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
> > > > To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > �
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the
NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm.
See you all there.
> > > >
> > > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all
good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have
heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to
cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm,
but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just
want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the
feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any
>

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#2058

From: Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 6:07 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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Whatever you wanna think Buddah

--- On Fri, 11/13/09, Buddah <albuddah@...> wrote:

From: Buddah <albuddah@...>
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, November 13, 2009, 5:08 AM

Oh sorry Chris, I meant Brian. He just was quoted with your name as such..."Chris go ahead and say what you want go Vikes don't listen to Buddah he is the same idiot that said he hopes that Favre gets injured and that he was not going to watch any Vikings games this year.SKool VIkes ban Budah"

My bad, sorry. You're just that Yankee bandwagon jumper I was supposed to ban. :P

Al

--- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@ ...> wrote:
>
> Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But what are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man.Â its all good buddah
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@.. .> wrote:
>
>
> From: Buddah <albuddah@.. .>
> Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
> To: novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
>
>
> Â
>
>
>
> Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.
>
> On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
>
> Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
>

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#2057

From: Trevor Williams <trevor88888@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:32 pm
Subject: Re: Re: Da Bears

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You raise some interesting points there Cajun.

I've always been a firm believer in 'stick with your team no matter what'. I picked the Vikings when I was 6 or so, and I'll bleed purple to the day I die, no matter what.

But is that really the 'right' thing to do? Do franchises/owners deserve our unwavering loyalty in ALL circumstances? There are a lot of variables to consider.

What do poor Colts fans do when the owner moves their team to another city? Stick with the franchise despite an owner doing something like that in the way that he did it? And then not be a fan of an owner/team that moves into town to give the city back something they lost?

What if you are philosophically opposed to 'buying championships'? I could see a Yankee or Red Sox fan from the early days hating how the team operates currently. Sure they are within the rules, and maybe there are better examples of teams that were once more 'home grown' and now more 'mercenary'; but I have no problem with a former fan being morally repulsed by what the Yankees are doing and abandoning them.

What about Redskin fans? A once proud and glorious franchise sunk by a crappy owner that treats it's fans horribly. Should the 50 year season ticket holder, now a recent widow and unable to pay for her season tickets, still be a fan of the team that sued her?

I get the 'love the team, hate the owner (or coach or player)' thing, but the line is fuzzy sometimes. How long can a franchise do all the wrong things before it is 'ok', to switch allegiances?

From: Cajun <cajunvike@...>
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, November 13, 2009 12:10:41 PM
Subject: [novavikes] Re: Da Bears

Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another. Big difference.

In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for all of eternity is foolish. For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year. And if things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL season.

Let it go, Buddah. Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires. He is having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career. And that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings. Hey, I was there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes - and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with both barrels. But that was then and this is now. And right now, he is making things happen for us. Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl. Join in the fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P

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#2056

From: "Buddah" <albuddah@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:17 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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I know where you live Craig.  Keep poking the postal worker.

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@...> wrote:
>
>
> Some Webmaster we have there...can't even keep the posters straight in a
simple blog chain!  :P :D
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@> wrote:
> >
> > Oh sorry Chris, I meant Brian.  He just was quoted with your name as
such..."Chris go ahead and say what you want go Vikes don't listen to Buddah he
is the same idiot that said he hopes that Favre gets injured and that he was not
going to watch any Vikings games this year.SKool VIkes ban Budah"
> >
> > My bad, sorry.  You're just that Yankee bandwagon jumper I was supposed to
ban.  :P
> >
> > Al
> >
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But
what are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man.�its all good buddah
> > >
> > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Buddah <albuddah@>
> > > Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
> > > To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
> > >
> > >
> > > �
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL
has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm.
See you all there.
> > >
> > > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good,
but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that
whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part
of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want
Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of
selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any

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#2055

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:10 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Selling out isn't rooting for Favre now that he is a Viking (consider it his
coming to his senses after having 16 years of amnesia) - selling out would be
changing your team loyalties because of one thing or another.  Big difference.

In this day and age of free agency, to focus on hating one player or another for
all of eternity is foolish.  For instance, I have had no problem watching Johnny
Damon in a Yankees uniform, even though he once played for the hated Red Sox. 
In fact, I get great pleasure in knowing that the Yankees took a player that the
Red Sox basically gave up on and watching him become a World Champion this year
as a major contributor to the Yankees World Series title this year.  And if
things go right, I will gain as much or more pleasure in watching Favre hoist
that Lombardi Trophy once the Vikings win the Super Bowl at the end of the NFL
season.

Let it go, Buddah.  Favre is a Viking and will be one until he retires.  He is
having one of the best, if not the best, seasons of his illustrious career.  And
that, my friend, is the best revenge against the hated Packers for all those
years that we had to put up with Favre beating our beloved Vikings.  Hey, I was
there in the Metrodome when Favre broke the all-time TD record against the Vikes
- and I turned my back to the field and gave him the old one-finger salute with
both barrels.  But that was then and this is now.  And right now, he is making
things happen for us.  Hopefully, all the way to the Super Bowl.  Join in the
fun, Buddah - you are missing out! :P

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@...> wrote:
>
> Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint.  I want to report that the NFL
has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week.  This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. 
See you all there.
>
> On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but
were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's?  If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down.  It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer
that whether it is right or wrong.  I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but
a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field.  In truth, I just
want Jackson back.  I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the
feeling of selling out.  Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year.  I
just love my Vikes too much to stay away.
>
> Cajun, no, I will not come around.  Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
>

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#2054

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:58 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

cajunvike

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Some Webmaster we have there...can't even keep the posters straight in a simple
blog chain!  :P :D
--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Buddah" <albuddah@...> wrote:
>
> Oh sorry Chris, I meant Brian.  He just was quoted with your name as
such..."Chris go ahead and say what you want go Vikes don't listen to Buddah he
is the same idiot that said he hopes that Favre gets injured and that he was not
going to watch any Vikings games this year.SKool VIkes ban Budah"
>
> My bad, sorry.  You're just that Yankee bandwagon jumper I was supposed to
ban.  :P
>
> Al
>
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@> wrote:
> >
> > Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But
what are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man. its all good buddah
> >
> > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Buddah <albuddah@>
> > Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
> > To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL
has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm.
See you all there.
> >
> > On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good,
but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that
whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part
of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want
Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of
selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my
Vikes too much to stay away.
> >
> > Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
> >
>

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#2053

From: Dave Weitzel <dave@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 3:34 pm
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Re: de Bears...

I seriously think Cutler is color blind. When in the red zone and all players in end zone are running around - no obvious route runner - he just throws to the one waving their arms the most. �Further back he can see who is his receiver as they run a clear route (and fall down so they can be picked off)

Forte has techniques but didn't look fast enough in the legs for a top notch RB, and made some bad route decisions.

Bears defense though is pretty good but think we can run through them - like 2 years ago.

I watched with a bunch of Bears fans who were not happy mostly chanted - "give it to Olsen"- Italian Beef sandwich was highlight of the evening!

See you all early Sunday

On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 11:33 PM, Buddah <albuddah@...> wrote:

Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. �I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. �This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. �See you all there.

On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? �If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. �It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. �I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. �In truth, I just want Jackson back. �I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. �Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. �I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.

Cajun, no, I will not come around. �Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.

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#2052

From: "Buddah" <albuddah@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 10:08 am
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Oh sorry Chris, I meant Brian.  He just was quoted with your name as
such..."Chris go ahead and say what you want go Vikes don't listen to Buddah he
is the same idiot that said he hopes that Favre gets injured and that he was not
going to watch any Vikings games this year.SKool VIkes ban Budah"

My bad, sorry.  You're just that Yankee bandwagon jumper I was supposed to ban. 
:P

Al


--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...> wrote:
>
> Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But what
are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man. its all good buddah
>
> --- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Buddah <albuddah@...>
> Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
> To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has
moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm.
See you all there.
>
> On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but
were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers
when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that
whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part
of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want
Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of
selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my
Vikes too much to stay away.
>
> Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.
>

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#2051

From: Chris Oko-Giglio <chrisva22207@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 5:27 am
Subject: Re: Da Bears

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Yeaaa Da Bearssss suck. Im gonna be at the game 50 yard line row 12. But what are u talkin about, i didn't call u any names man. its all good buddah

--- On Thu, 11/12/09, Buddah <albuddah@...> wrote:

From: Buddah <albuddah@...>
Subject: [novavikes] Da Bears
To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 11:33 PM

Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint. I want to report that the NFL has moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket calendars for next week. This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. See you all there.

On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's? If so, you would have heard cheers when Rodgers went down. It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer that whether it is right or wrong. I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field. In truth, I just want Jackson back. I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the feeling of selling out. Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year. I just love my Vikes too much to stay away.

Cajun, no, I will not come around. Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.

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#2050

From: "Buddah" <albuddah@...>
Date: Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:33 am
Subject: Da Bears

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Man, Cutler really is stinking up the joint.  I want to report that the NFL has
moved the upcoming Chicago game to 4:15pm, so please change your pocket
calendars for next week.  This Sunday's Lion game is still as scheduled at 1pm. 
See you all there.

On another note, Chris, if you insist in calling me names, it is all good, but
were you at the last Packer game at Mackey's?  If so, you would have heard
cheers when Rodgers went down.  It is part of a lot of fans' psyche to cheer
that whether it is right or wrong.  I guess I don't really wish Favre harm, but
a part of me wouldn't mind seeing him carted off the field.  In truth, I just
want Jackson back.  I might be in the minority, but I just can't accept the
feeling of selling out.  Yes, I said I wouldn't watch any games this year.  I
just love my Vikes too much to stay away.

Cajun, no, I will not come around.  Favre is the spawn from Cheesyhell.

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#2049

From: "Rusty" <James.OBrien.ctr@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 11:40 pm
Subject: Re: CORRECTION

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I agree, Cajun. They don't need any locker room distractions, negativity or
primadonnas. Also have Chester.

Offense has solid backups (OK, "serviceable" is a better word for the QB
backups).

I think the DL is fine. Although Sapp, Allen and Paymah have held up even though
targeted, a veteran DB may not be out of the question. LB's are OK but if a
solid vet were available that is a potential option if any get dinged up.

By the way, just heard speculation on ESPN that TJ may see action this week. 
Hope it's late 3rd or early 4th quarter because the Vikes are out by 3 TDs or
more and not because Farve's groin is a problem.

Rusty

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Cajun" <cajunvike@...> wrote:
>
> WR...I hear that Matt Jones is available.  LOL
>
> But seriously...DB and DT.  DEFENSE wins championships so we can't afford to
be beaten deep or to be unable to stop the run.
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Dave Weitzel <dave@> wrote:
> >
> > Anyone think we should get Larry Johnson, a) as back up to protect us
> > through playoffs, b) to stop anyone else doing same?
> >
> > Might also give us more options what to do when three running back line up?
> >
> > If not what positions do you think we should consider boosting as protection
> > against injury down  the second half and beyond?
> >
> > Zmen must be happy with receipts so far this year so spending a bit please!
> >
> > D
> >
> > On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Cajun <cajunvike@> wrote:
> >
> > > I guess that also means that the Red Sox bought their first two titles in
> > > nearly a hundred years in both 2004 and 2007 since they couldn't do it
with
> > > just their farm system players alone.  We could probably say that about
most
> > > of the NFL and NBA champions in the last several years as well.
> > >
> > > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Brian Werner <bdwerner@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > There is nothing more satisfying than buying championships.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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#2048

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 10:44 pm
Subject: Re: CORRECTION

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WR...I hear that Matt Jones is available.  LOL

But seriously...DB and DT.  DEFENSE wins championships so we can't afford to be
beaten deep or to be unable to stop the run.

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Dave Weitzel <dave@...> wrote:
>
> Anyone think we should get Larry Johnson, a) as back up to protect us
> through playoffs, b) to stop anyone else doing same?
>
> Might also give us more options what to do when three running back line up?
>
> If not what positions do you think we should consider boosting as protection
> against injury down  the second half and beyond?
>
> Zmen must be happy with receipts so far this year so spending a bit please!
>
> D
>
> On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Cajun <cajunvike@...> wrote:
>
> > I guess that also means that the Red Sox bought their first two titles in
> > nearly a hundred years in both 2004 and 2007 since they couldn't do it with
> > just their farm system players alone.  We could probably say that about most
> > of the NFL and NBA champions in the last several years as well.
> >
> > --- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Brian Werner <bdwerner@> wrote:
> > >
> > > There is nothing more satisfying than buying championships.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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#2047

From: "marylandvike" <Leibowitz.Mark@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:46 pm
Subject: Re: Impact of Viking Victories to Packers

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Awesome eye-opening comparison between the two coaches and their franchises. 
It's also worth noting that after losing the first 5 meetings against the
Packers, Childress' Vikings have beaten them 3 straight times.

Maryland Vike

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Brian Johnson <bjohnsonmd@...> wrote:

> On a different note, it is funny how things cycle:
>  
> 2005 was a low point.  Moss was traded, Culpepper was crippled and we had
the Love Boat.  Wilf had just come on board to end the tightfisted McCombs
era.   
>  
> Both Chili and McCarthy were hired the same year (2006).  Wilf brought in
Steve Hutchinson, Chester Taylor and Ryan Longwell.  Chili got us the 7th worst
record in the NFL that year with a 6-10 record.  That 7th worst record landed
us AP in the 2007 draft who went on to be the Rookie of the Year.  MM went
8-8. 
>  
> MM then went 13-3 and took the Pack to the NFC championship with Favre in
2007.  We were improved at 8-8 and proud of our AP but still envious of what
the Pack had done.  MM was the toast of Cheesehead Nation.  That year we also
drafted Rice and brought in Shiancoe.
>  
> MM and Ted Thompson then pushed Favre to the curb to bring in Rodgers in
2008.  They went 6-10 with that move and we went 10-6, winning the division. 
Favre was exiled to the Jets.  Wilf brought in Jared Allen that year.
>  
> This year, Chili personally goes down to Florida to meet with and subsequently
convince us to draft Harvin with our 22nd overall pick, a player who has
singlehandedly kept us in close games with his special teams play.  Chili then
picks up the phone and calls Favre after a preseason game where both TJack and
Rosenfels look less than stellar.  He picks him up at the airport.  Zygi signs
the check. 
>  
> This year, the Vikes are mentioned repeatedly as one of the top teams in the
league.  The Packers are suffering from poor draft and free agent decisions and
letting their O-line dwindle.  The Vikes are looking strong in all phases of
the game through the acquistions they have made...running, passing, defense and
special teams. These acquisions were not overnight but over the last
few years. Both our offensive and defensive lines are strong.
>  
> We will see how this all plays out the rest of the season.  I for one am
grateful for what can only be described as steady improvement in the last few
years and not doing a knee-jerk firing of Childress. Yes, he was probably
wrong about TJack but getting a top flight QB is never a sure-fire thing. 
Chili at least was instrumental in not taking Quinn and going with AP in 2007
and getting us Harvin this year.  He also bit the bullet by calling Favre,
basically knowing if he was wrong, he would be finished as a head coach.  It
hasn't turned out that way so far.
>  
> It sure beats being a Packers fan right now who now want to run MM and TT out
of town.
>  
> Just my 2 cents.
>  
> Brian
>

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#2046

From: Dave Weitzel <dave@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 9:03 pm
Subject: Re: Re: CORRECTION

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Anyone think we should get Larry Johnson, a) as back up to protect us through playoffs, b) to stop anyone else doing same?

Might also give us more options what to do when three running back line up?

If not what positions do you think we should consider boosting as protection against injury down �the second half and beyond?

Zmen must be happy with receipts so far this year so spending a bit please!

On Wed, Nov 11, 2009 at 1:46 PM, Cajun <cajunvike@...> wrote:

I guess that also means that the Red Sox bought their first two titles in nearly a hundred years in both 2004 and 2007 since they couldn't do it with just their farm system players alone. �We could probably say that about most of the NFL and NBA champions in the last several years as well.

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Brian Werner <bdwerner@...> wrote:
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> There is nothing more satisfying than buying championships.
>

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#2045

From: "Cajun" <cajunvike@...>
Date: Wed Nov 11, 2009 6:51 pm
Subject: Re: Comments on Packers II at Mackey's

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I disagree about the food - that was the best thing about T&H.  And now that
Mackey's carries root beer for me, that would be a tie in the drinks catagory
for me (with the tiebreaker being that Mackey's went out of their way to
accommodate my love of root beer while T&H already had it in stock - but no
points deducted off of T&H on the drinks score).  Crowded never bothered me
either place, but there seems to be a greater Vikings percentage of fans at
Mackey's, which is always good.  As I said before, I won't knock T&H.  They made
a business decision and will reap whatever rewards come of that.  I wish them
well, but my loyalties now lie with Mackey's.  I'll gladly send all of my
Steelers fans to T&H though.  They treated me well while they were our official
home so I feel no need to bash them now that they moved into a different
direction.  It's all good!


--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, Brian Mark <bmarkdc@...> wrote:
>
> I agree one 100% the waiters at T&H were lousy the food sucked and it was
crowded..I want to thank the people at Mackey's you guys rock food is great.
drinks even better even if i have been spending over 100 bucks per game its
worth it,
>
> --- On Wed, 11/11/09, Cajun <cajunvike@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Cajun <cajunvike@...>
> Subject: [novavikes] Re: Comments on Packers II at Mackey's
> To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, November 11, 2009, 6:34 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> I missed the cheese plate, but greatly appreciate the gesture by the Mackey's
owners nonetheless. Furthermore, I have thoroughly enjoyed every game that I
have been able to attend at our new Vikings home in DC. Thanks again to
Marilaine and Rusty for getting root beer stocked at the bar for me...the effort
to meet individual requests by the Mackey's crew continues to go above and
beyond!
>
> As regards T&H, I wish them well. But truth be known, I prefer to spend my
money at our NEW Vikings home since every dollar that we pour into the place
that we call our home is a small price to play for the great generousity and
immediate welcome that we have received by the owners and staff of our new home.
But that's just me. :-)
>
> --- In novavikes@yahoogrou ps.com, "Rusty" <James.OBrien. ctr@> wrote:
> >
> > NovaVikes --
> >
> > If you get a chance at our next game, please thank Marilaine and Roksana for
coordinating the cheese plate the Mackey's owners donated for last week's game.
That was a nice gesture that is very appreciated and shows what a special
relationship we have.
> >
> > Also, thanks to good friends (and T&H owners) Erik and Monty for spending
the day with us. It's great that our move to Mackey's has resulted in a
win-win-win- win situation for the T&H, Mackey's, NovaVikes and the Steeler
Nation. What's also fantastic is that there are no hard feelings and the
friendship between T&H and NovaVikes continues. Erik and Monty want me to pass
on that NovaVikings members are always welcome to stop by and have a drink or
something to eat. I'm doing that tonight -- then to Mackey's for my weekly wings
and Guinness fix.
> >
> > No game this week, but let's gear up for the second half of the season on
Nov 15th against the Lions (1 PM). Please provide feedback and suggestions to me
and/or Marilaine so that we can ensure our Mackeys game day experience continues
to be outstanding.
> >
> > Rusty
> >
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