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While we are ruining the team...let's change uniforms   Message List  
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Re: While we are ruining the team...let's change uniforms

I agree wholeheartedly. Culpepper cannot read a defense and was just
awful last year. He cannot protect the ball and that's job one.
Admittedly our o-line and running game stunk last year but Pep would
fumble with no one around him. Plus, why not come back up and rehab
and try to learn a new offense. Good riddance. I'd like to see us go
after Matt Schaub but apparently he's off the market as a "Vick
insurance policy" who's another guy who ain't gonna cut it in the
Show.

--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, "Christopher Just"
<christopher_just@...> wrote:
>
> I wrote it in the middle of the season when I said the Vikes
should trade
> Culpepper and work at signing Kitna or Brees, and I stand by it...
Dante
> never progressed in any way in the pro game. He never learned how
to read
> defenses, never learned how to go through progressions, never
understood
> even the concept of a check-down, never could figure out how to
protect the
> football. While much of that is his fault, it is also the debacle
that had
> become the Vikings coaching. There was no one there to teach him
from the
> start how to be a good pro level QB. All the potental there with
him and
> never anyone to teach him how to best put it to use. Maybe Saban
can coach
> him, but I've got to think he's so full of himself that he figures
he knows
> it all and can just step in and heave the ball and it'll all work
out...
> just like it did last year before he blew out his knee.
>
> Rebuilding isn't so bad as long as there is a direction, and maybe
we give
> Childress some time to put pieces in place and see what he can do
on the
> field before we doubt the moves... making a decision about a coach
even
> before a snap has been played is something they would do in New
York, we've
> got to have more sense than the Jets and Giants... at least we
don't have
> Pennington!
>
> This should be the last remnant of the Denny Green era moved off
the field.
> Time to start anew and go from there.
>
> I'm prepared for a disapointing season, but looking forward to
seeing what
> is done for the long haul. You've got to be optimistic with this
team...
> otherwise you'd end up throwing things through TV sets and then
you just
> have to buy a new one.
>
>
>
>
> >From: "rnreilly" <rnreilly@...>
> >Reply-To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> >To: novavikes@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: [novavikes] Re: While we are ruining the team...let's
change
> >uniforms
> >Date: Wed, 15 Mar 2006 14:27:30 -0000
> >
> >I'll throw in my lot with this last comment. Culpepper had two
good
> >years with the Vikes, 2000 and 2005. Other than those years,
with 33
> >and 39 TDs apiece, he never lived up to his potential...he just
kept
> >plugging along with 11-15 TDs, like last year.
> >
> >Once upon a time, we thought he might be an awesome running QB, at
> >250+ lbs, but that isn't going to happen now on one-and-a-half
> >knees. And don't play the loyalty or leadership card re:
> >Culpepper...that Love Boat debacle showed us what kind of (non)
> >leader he is and what type of loyalty to our beautiful state he
has.
> >
> >The way to succeed in today's NFL is with a cohesive and dynamic
> >coaching staff to build a solid defense, an above-average corps of
> >receivers and an offensive unit that can get the ball down the
field
> >without turnovers. That means a great O-line, a productive ground
> >game and a QB who doesn't cough up the ball all the time.
> >
> >Sorry, Duante, but it's time you go pre-retire in Florida. We've
got
> >to back Zygy and Childress, get the games back outdoors, find a
way
> >to empower our running backs, and get back to the Super Bowl!
> >
> >rnr
> >
> >
> >
> >--- In novavikes@yahoogroups.com, bikedude <vze243bi@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I could not disagree with you more about Daunte
Can'tPassPepper.
> > >
> > > Everyone seems to have amnesia when they talk about Daunte.
While
> >he may
> > > be able to tho the ball real far, and run from time to time,
the
> >man is
> > > not a winner. Look at the record the Vikings have had since
Daunte
> > > became the QB. (see below) A total and steady decline from 11-
5 in
> >2000
> > > to the mediocre results in the past 5 years (nothing better
than 9-
> >7).
> > >
> > > After 6 years in the league, Daunte still hasn't learned how to
> >throw
> > > the ball away when he is about to be sacked or if all
receivers are
> > > covered. How long will it take to learn that elemental skill?
10
> >years?
> > > 15? And his fumbles and interceptions are legendary.
> > >
> > > But mostly, Daunte is not a player who can raise his game and
win
> >when
> > > it counts. Big players, have big games in big situations.
Between
> >the
> > > 20s, Daunte can throw and run as good as anyone. But cross
that 20
> >and
> > > he falls apart, either with a fumble, interception or failure
to
> > > complete a pass. And yes, I put the blame squarely on his
> >shoulders. In
> > > those situations, it is the QB that can make or break a team.
> > >
> > > The only time I ever saw Daunte raise his game to that Tom
Brady-
> >like
> > > level was the Jan 05 playoff game vs. Green Bay. But then,
Daunte
> >had
> > > the AFROS and Randy Moss to save his skin. Instead, there were
way
> >too
> > > many games like the 2000 41-0 loss to the Giants in the NFC
> > > championship game. Where was his $6million dollar effort for
that
> >game?
> > > He apparently had no problem giving his all on the Love Boat
Cruise
> >on
> > > Lake Minnetonka.
> > >
> > > Frankly, Daunte is the last vestige of the nightmare of Denny
> >Green --
> > > all offense and no defense. This is Brad Childress's team now.
I say
> > > good riddance to Daunte and his whining about being
unappreciated.
> >He
> > > would have been appreciated if he had won more than 50 percent
of
> >his
> > > games. Perhaps he will be rejuvenated in Miami and lead them
to the
> > > Super Bowl. If he does, good for him.
> > >
> > > But I'm anxious to see what the new Vikings have to offer this
fall.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 2005 NFL Minnesota Vikings 9-7-0 Tice Johnson Moore
> > > 2004 NFL Minnesota Vikings 8-8-0 Tice Culpepper Smith Burleson
> > > 2003 NFL Minnesota Vikings 9-7-0 Tice Culpepper Williams Moss
> > > 2002 NFL Minnesota Vikings 6-10-0 Tice Culpepper Bennett Moss
> > > 2001 NFL Minnesota Vikings 5-11-0 Green, Tice Culpepper
Bennett Moss
> > > 2000 NFL Minnesota Vikings 11-5-0 Green Culpepper Smith Moss
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Al wrote:
> > >
> > > > Vikings | Team changing uniforms
> > > > Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800
> > > >
> > > > Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota
Vikings
> >will
> > > > be wearing new uniforms for the 2006 season. Steve LaCroix,
> >Vikings
> > > > vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed the uniform
> >change,
> > > > although he declined to say to what extent. "We are working
with
> >the
> > > > NFL and Reebok on some exciting changes for the 2006 season.
The
> > > > process is still continuing, but we'll look to have an
unveiling
> > > > later in the offseason for our fans," he said.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Then after we trade Culpepper, and change our uniforms we can
> >fully
> > > > embrace the idea that we are rebuilding like an expansion
team...
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Vikings | Childress does not rule out trading up in the NFL
Draft
> > > > Tue, 14 Mar 2006 20:59:12 -0800
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Seifert, of the Star Tribune, reports Minnesota
Vikings head
> > > > coach Brad Childress did not rule out packaging several draft
> >picks,
> > > > they now own the 17th, 48th and 51st picks, to move up in the
> >first
> > > > round and select one of the draft's three premier
quarterbacks:
> >USC's
> > > > Matt Leinart, Texas' Vince Young and Vanderbilt's Jay
Cutler. "You
> > > > look at all those eventualities and see if you feel like
there is
> > > > something," Childress said.
> > > >
> > > > What do you think of all these new developments? My
stomach is
> > > > churning. I thought with that huge cap space we were a few
> >players
> > > > and with the new coaching system we were so close to going
to the
> > > > Super Bowl. Now? Who knows?
> > > >
> > > >
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Vikings | Team changing uniforms Tue, 14 Mar 2006 19:46:00 -0800 Sean Jensen, of the Pioneer Press, reports the Minnesota Vikings will be wearing new uniforms...
Al
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Mar 15, 2006
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I could not disagree with you more about Daunte Can'tPassPepper. Everyone seems to have amnesia when they talk about Daunte. While he may be able to tho the...
bikedude
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Mar 15, 2006
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I'll throw in my lot with this last comment. Culpepper had two good years with the Vikes, 2000 and 2005. Other than those years, with 33 and 39 TDs apiece,...
rnreilly
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Mar 15, 2006
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I wrote it in the middle of the season when I said the Vikes should trade Culpepper and work at signing Kitna or Brees, and I stand by it... Dante never...
Christopher Just
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Mar 15, 2006
2:46 pm

I agree wholeheartedly. Culpepper cannot read a defense and was just awful last year. He cannot protect the ball and that's job one. Admittedly our o-line and...
Bill Harrison
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Mar 17, 2006
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I think we'll be ok. Daunte just needed to go. He was acting like he was working from a position of power when he had his worst yr, no one knows if he can...
Stanley Stewart
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Mar 15, 2006
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The new uniforms will be Pink and Taupe! Not happy with the trade and I question why this organization is so ass backwards in some of their actions. If Ziggi...
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