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Over the years, I've seen very successful techniques in slowing down martial
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Aside from the obvious, members for the forum, is there anything I'm
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Thanks

Rick

Gary, I have a new blog but not martial arts related.
www.tunglewood.blogspot.com

My Dad taught me the belt trick too. He used an Army 38 Pattern Web Belt which
has brass buckles. I recall one night during my first year in the Army (1978)
when five or six came for me with the pillow slips filled with boots and the
soap in the socks. I turned over my bed and got behind it in the corner of the
barrack room and lashed out with the web belt wrapped around my fist. Scored a
couple of hits in the dark and they retired. The next morning on parade I could
identify two of my assailants by the nasty cuts to their cheeks and foreheads
from the buckles. Mind you, nobody came after me ever again at that unit. It was
the Army Apprentice School and the culture was the senior year bullied the
junior year. Very brutal and we had fatalities over the years but only a suicide
when I was there. I was a 'mouthy sprog' for standing up to them and so ear
marked for treatment.  Cheers Perry


--- On Fri, 2/6/09, G. Byrne <kon861@...> wrote:

> From: G. Byrne <kon861@...>
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 8:50 AM
> Wow Perry that sounds like quite an adventure (And a good
> reason to move to Oz :)
>  
> The belt thing was very informal... I was having some
> trouble with kids at school as I recall.
> Basically you wrap the belt around your palm two or three
> times and pull it tight leaving about a foot of the buckle
> end of the belt hanging. Close fingers and thumb around the
> belt in your palm and use what is basically a downward
> figure 8. The target is any hard spot on the head. My dad
> said that his dad taught him this when he was a kid for the
> same reason and that when he used this on bullies they never
> bothered him again :-)
>  
> Did you ever put up a new blog btw?
>  
> Gary
>
> --- On Thu, 1/29/09, perry gamsby
> <perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
>
> From: perry gamsby <perrygamsby999@...>
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Thursday, January 29, 2009, 3:04 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Gary, I nearly fought a man in Manila who whipped off his
> belt... a Lubidero or Lubid (Belt) fighter. I thought he was
> going for a knife and as I was too far away to stop that mid
> draw I stayed out of range. Then a small Mazda pulled up
> with five or six cops armed with M16s who took care of the
> matter! The Lubidero had just snatched a woman's purse
> while our jeepney was stopped in traffic. I bailed out to
> help but some kid passing by did a flying drop kick that
> took the thief of the BMX bike he was rapidly peddling away!
> It was quite a scene! By all means send me info on the belt
> technique. Cheers Perry
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, G. Byrne <kon861@yahoo. com>
> wrote:
>
> > From: G. Byrne <kon861@yahoo. com>
> > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_ stickfighting] Re:
> Members
> > To: non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:10 AM
> > Dirk.
> >  
> > I'll be sorry to see this list go, but you may be
> > right. I havn't had much time to read any of this
> in the
> > last year (Been working 70-90 hr work weeks) let alone
> do
> > any stick work :-(
> > It's taken a while to catch up.
> >  
> > Perry.
> >  
> > You mentioned that you were putting something together
> with
> > family fighting techniques.. . If you are still
> interested I
> > have one for using a belt. Let me know if you are
> still
> > interested.
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > Gary
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Perry Gamsby
> > <perrygamsby999@ yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > From: Perry Gamsby <perrygamsby999@ yahoo.com>
> > Subject: [non-traditional_ stickfighting] Re: Members
> > To: non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:04 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Given the last post was in July and nothing since
> then,
> > perhaps that is the right decision I
> > have started and ended groups when they pass their use
> by
> > date. It was a good idea,
> > achieved what you wanted it to and now time to move
> on. Of
> > coruse if anyone wants to
> > take you up on your offer and revitalise it, go for
> it. If
> > I can be helpful of course I will be.
> > Cheers Perry
> >
> > --- In non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups.
> com,
> > "Dirk E. Folmer" <defolmer@.. .>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I
> created
> > it to give the
> > > independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach.
> ..I
> > believe that that
> > > time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist,
> this
> > one no longer
> > > has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I
> set
> > out to do...If any
> > > of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...
> > >
> > > I have achieved what I wanted...open style
> > discussion.. .
> > >
> > > Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of
> the
> > week.
> > >
> > > Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is
> done.
> > >
> > > Keep swinging!
> > >
> > > Dirk
> > >

I'm always interested in weapons we carry everyday. Any chance you can
post it to the group?

Rick
Weapons We Carry Everyday
http://kirkhamsebooks.com/MartialArts/WeaponsWeCarry_in.htm?ntsgroup

--- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com, perry gamsby
<perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
>
> Gary, I nearly fought a man in Manila who whipped off his belt... a
Lubidero or Lubid (Belt) fighter. I thought he was going for a knife
and as I was too far away to stop that mid draw I stayed out of range.
Then a small Mazda pulled up with five or six cops armed with M16s who
took care of the matter!  The Lubidero had just snatched a woman's
purse while our jeepney was stopped in traffic. I bailed out to help
but some kid passing by did a flying drop kick that took the thief of
the BMX bike he was rapidly peddling away!  It was quite a scene!  By
all means send me info on the belt technique. Cheers Perry
>
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, G. Byrne <kon861@...> wrote:
>
> > From: G. Byrne <kon861@...>
> > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:10 AM
> > Dirk.
> >  
> > I'll be sorry to see this list go, but you may be
> > right. I havn't had much time to read any of this in the
> > last year (Been working 70-90 hr work weeks) let alone do
> > any stick work :-(
> > It's taken a while to catch up.
> >  
> > Perry.
> >  
> > You mentioned that you were putting something together with
> > family fighting techniques... If you are still interested I
> > have one for using a belt. Let me know if you are still
> > interested.
> >  
> > Thanks
> >  
> > Gary
> >
> > --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Perry Gamsby
> > <perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
> >
> > From: Perry Gamsby <perrygamsby999@...>
> > Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:04 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Given the last post was in July and nothing since then,
> > perhaps that is the right decision I
> > have started and ended groups when they pass their use by
> > date. It was a good idea,
> > achieved what you wanted it to and now time to move on. Of
> > coruse if anyone wants to
> > take you up on your offer and revitalise it, go for it. If
> > I can be helpful of course I will be.
> > Cheers Perry
> >
> > --- In non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com,
> > "Dirk E. Folmer" <defolmer@ .>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created
> > it to give the
> > > independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach. ..I
> > believe that that
> > > time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this
> > one no longer
> > > has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set
> > out to do...If any
> > > of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...
> > >
> > > I have achieved what I wanted...open style
> > discussion.. .
> > >
> > > Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the
> > week.
> > >
> > > Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.
> > >
> > > Keep swinging!
> > >
> > > Dirk
> > >
>

Gary, I nearly fought a man in Manila who whipped off his belt... a Lubidero or
Lubid (Belt) fighter. I thought he was going for a knife and as I was too far
away to stop that mid draw I stayed out of range. Then a small Mazda pulled up
with five or six cops armed with M16s who took care of the matter!  The Lubidero
had just snatched a woman's purse while our jeepney was stopped in traffic. I
bailed out to help but some kid passing by did a flying drop kick that took the
thief of the BMX bike he was rapidly peddling away!  It was quite a scene!  By
all means send me info on the belt technique. Cheers Perry


--- On Wed, 1/28/09, G. Byrne <kon861@...> wrote:

> From: G. Byrne <kon861@...>
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 9:10 AM
> Dirk.
>  
> I'll be sorry to see this list go, but you may be
> right. I havn't had much time to read any of this in the
> last year (Been working 70-90 hr work weeks) let alone do
> any stick work :-(
> It's taken a while to catch up.
>  
> Perry.
>  
> You mentioned that you were putting something together with
> family fighting techniques... If you are still interested I
> have one for using a belt. Let me know if you are still
> interested.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Gary
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Perry Gamsby
> <perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
>
> From: Perry Gamsby <perrygamsby999@...>
> Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:04 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Given the last post was in July and nothing since then,
> perhaps that is the right decision I
> have started and ended groups when they pass their use by
> date. It was a good idea,
> achieved what you wanted it to and now time to move on. Of
> coruse if anyone wants to
> take you up on your offer and revitalise it, go for it. If
> I can be helpful of course I will be.
> Cheers Perry
>
> --- In non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com,
> "Dirk E. Folmer" <defolmer@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created
> it to give the
> > independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach. ..I
> believe that that
> > time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this
> one no longer
> > has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set
> out to do...If any
> > of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...
> >
> > I have achieved what I wanted...open style
> discussion.. .
> >
> > Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the
> week.
> >
> > Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.
> >
> > Keep swinging!
> >
> > Dirk
> >

--- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com, "Dirk E. Folmer"
<defolmer@...> wrote:
>
> Gents,
>  Meet your new Mods, Rick and Marc!
> I'll be around. Thanks for volunteering!
>
> Dirk
>

Aloha everyone

Rick

Gents,
  Meet your new Mods, Rick and Marc!
I'll be around. Thanks for volunteering!

Dirk

I think you are right Dirk.
there are so few people with the balls to actually try
this thing for real that it is better to have one big
group instead of a bunch of little ones.

--- "G. Byrne" <kon861@...> wrote:

> Dirk.
>  
> I'll be sorry to see this list go, but you may be
> right. I havn't had much time to read any of this in
> the last year (Been working 70-90 hr work weeks) let
> alone do any stick work :-(
> It's taken a while to catch up.
>  
> Perry.
>  
> You mentioned that you were putting something
> together with family fighting techniques... If
> you are still interested I have one for using a
> belt. Let me know if you are still interested.
>  
> Thanks
>  
> Gary
>
> --- On Wed, 1/28/09, Perry Gamsby
> <perrygamsby999@...> wrote:
>
> From: Perry Gamsby <perrygamsby999@...>
> Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Members
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, January 28, 2009, 4:04 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Given the last post was in July and nothing since
> then, perhaps that is the right decision I
> have started and ended groups when they pass their
> use by date. It was a good idea,
> achieved what you wanted it to and now time to move
> on. Of coruse if anyone wants to
> take you up on your offer and revitalise it, go for
> it. If I can be helpful of course I will be.
> Cheers Perry
>
> --- In non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups.
> com, "Dirk E. Folmer" <defolmer@.. .>
> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I
> created it to give the
> > independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach. ..I
> believe that that
> > time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist,
> this one no longer
> > has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I
> set out to do...If any
> > of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...
> >
> > I have achieved what I wanted...open style
> discussion.. .
> >
> > Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of
> the week.
> >
> > Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is
> done.
> >
> > Keep swinging!
> >
> > Dirk
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

.            http://www.irishstickfighter.com
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.             John Patrick Sullivan. The Fifth


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Given the last post was in July and nothing since then, perhaps that is the
right decision I
have started and ended groups when they pass their use by date. It was a good
idea,
achieved what you wanted it to and now time to move on. Of coruse if anyone
wants to
take you up on your offer and revitalise it, go for it. If I can be helpful of
course I will be.
Cheers Perry


--- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com, "Dirk E. Folmer"
<defolmer@...>
wrote:
>
> Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created it to give the
> independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach...I believe that that
> time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this one no longer
> has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set out to do...If any
> of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...
>
> I have achieved what I wanted...open style discussion...
>
> Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the week.
>
> Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.
>
> Keep swinging!
>
> Dirk
>

Thanks Dirk, it was fun lurking here!

See you on the other lists:)

- Chris Amendola

Sent from my iPhone

By the way thank you for starting such a great group in the first place

Rick



----- Original Message ----
From: Sensei J. Richard Kirkham B.Sc <tutor2000@...>
To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:09:10 PM
Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Members

I'll take it

I'm both a yahoo and martial art fanatic

Rick



----- Original Message ----
From: Dirk E. Folmer <defolmer@...>
To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:04:36 PM
Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Members

Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created it to give the
independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach...I believe that that
time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this one no longer
has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set out to do...If any
of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...

I have achieved what I wanted...open style discussion...

Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the week.

Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.

Keep swinging!

Dirk


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Yahoo! Groups Links

I'll take it

I'm both a yahoo and martial art fanatic

Rick



----- Original Message ----
From: Dirk E. Folmer <defolmer@...>
To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 5:04:36 PM
Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Members

Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created it to give the
independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach...I believe that that
time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this one no longer
has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set out to do...If any
of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...

I have achieved what I wanted...open style discussion...

Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the week.

Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.

Keep swinging!

Dirk


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Yahoo! Groups Links

Thank you, all, for supporting this group. I created it to give the
independant groups a place to talk/vent/teach...I believe that that
time is now past as so many SPECIFIC sites exist, this one no longer
has to. SO I am closing it...I have done what I set out to do...If any
of you would like to take the reigns, so be it...

I have achieved what I wanted...open style discussion...

Let me know, otherwise I will close by the end of the week.

Truly thanks to all, but it appears my job is done.

Keep swinging!

Dirk

Gents,
      I'm in the process of teaching myself on new site-builder (joomla)
and will be trying to get that launched for several projects.

      In other news: It Has become readily apparent that my students
seem to have a "rock-n-roll" 'tude.
      To that end I have introduces a "modified single stick" block
to classes. My son HATES it... far too fast and gives a distinct
edge to his lighter,faster opponents...but to his credit, he recognizes
his technical flaw and is working hard.

       Laura ( my wife) recently asked to start training again...while
she is not the firebrand she once was... it took all of 10 minutes of
warm-up for her to start scoring...I'm so proud!

       The new fencing sticks are in and finished (obviously) while we
maintain the "cane form" they are only about 20mm (.75 in). We do NOT
go padded up for these matches except for masks, gloves and elbows.
They have discovered the VAST differences of the Wrist, Elbow, and
Shoulder applications of the Moulinet, and all of them bear the
stripes to prove it.

       Of course the thrust becomes less prevalent, but it IS still
there...stop thrust still works beautifully..

All the best,
Dirk

LOL  Dirk... well I guess I could be called a lot worse... thanks for being
gentle...

And Chris, I believe Dirk has given me orders to get those techniques out of
you... so be ready tomorrow.... ;-)

Actually, I told him if he wants to share techniques, then he doesn't have to
pay for any classes at Cead Bua, so I'm hoping that'll be enough. I mean the
stick classes don't cost, but he really wants the Plum Blossom system too, so
going for the trade off.

I'll let you know Dirk.

Glen



--- On Tue, 7/1/08, Dirk E. Folmer <defolmer@...> wrote:

> From: Dirk E. Folmer <defolmer@...>
> Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: new member
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Tuesday, July 1, 2008, 5:36 AM
> Glen,
>
> A) we did not need *HIM* to tell us that!
>
> B) If he's got true Gatka techniques and he's
> holding back...
> BEAT it out of him...
>
> I knew a couple of Sikh's when I served...oddly from
> *my* perspective
> as a YOUNG American, some of the nicest and MOST DANGEROUS
> guys
> I ever knew...same can be said for a friend from Basic
> named Penido
> Liberado...could have killed me in 1 minute if he's
> wanted too...
> but instead showed me a few things...probably saved my
> life...
>
> It's the quiet ones you have to watch...which of course
> leaves me out...
>
>
> I'm a harmless old cripple...
>
> Dirk
>
> --- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com, Glen
> Doyle
> <uisceman@...> wrote:
> >
> > Way to make me sound psychotic, Christopher. *lol*
> >
> > Actually Dirk, Chris won't say it but he is pretty
> talented and
> obviously well trained... moves very well for a guy his
> size and has
> great natural stick instincts, very talented... we're
> trying to
> convince him to share some of those Sikh sword techniques
> he's been
> taught... :)
> >
> > Glen
> >
> > --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Chris Denmark
> <cdenmark13@...> wrote:
> >
> > > From: Chris Denmark <cdenmark13@...>
> > > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new
> member
> > > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> > > Yeah, i've looked at the msp stuff on the
> utube, love da
> > > sounds man, whack whack whack! thanks for the
> info, and
> > > actually i'm training with glen now. he was
> recommended
> > > by a couple of Angel biker buddies of mine about
> a year ago,
> > > and i finally dropped in on a class in oakville
> about a
> > > month ago, and me being the arrogant ass that i
> am, i
> > > wanted to test it before commiting to the system,
> so I told
> > > glen i wanted to test it, he says sure, and
> motions for me
> > > to follow him outside, so i liked him
> immediately, then i
> > > asked how we decide points and stuff and the dude
> just
> > > shakes his head and says, the guy out cold on the
> sidewalk
> > > lost.
> > > dirk, i freakin loved it man, blood pumping,
> adrenalin
> > > pumping, it was sweet ass sweet but i do have a
> day job and
> > > needs to be able to work with my hands, so i
> wanted to stick
> > > with sparring, anyway, i told him i just wanted
> to spar a
> > > bit, so one of his guys, rich, awesome guy, took
> me up on
> > > the match and after about 10 minutes of intense
> aggressive
> > > techniques that bruised the living crap out of
> me, i said
> > > this irish bata thing is worth my time. i like
> the timing,
> > > so different from what i had learned, the
> breaking of the
> > > distance was odd, i figured with a long stick
> it's
> > > easier to keep them away, or get them before they
> get
> > > close, but an odd timing to fight against.
> i'm very
> > > intrigued about the msp system as well, i love
> the stick
> > > length, something i'm used to, and i like the
> footwork,
> > > also something i'm used to. i guess i'll
> try to haul
> > > my butt out there in the future, where out west
> BC? i love
> > > any and all approaches to sticks man, any and
> all, the more
> > >  they vary the more i drool.
> > >
> > > so tell me more about this list, what do we do
> here?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message ----
> > > From: Dirk <defolmer@...>
> > > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:39:18 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new
> member
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Chris,
> > > well, damn. That sounds like a hell of a resume.
> > >
> > > I don't know your particular
> idiom...we've got some
> > > EXCELLENT
> > > resources up north...In ontario there is Glen
> Doyle, about
> > > the
> > > only guy with traceable Generational system, and
> out west
> > > there
> > > is Mi Amigo JP Sullivan, of the infamous
> MSP...either one a
> > > FONT
> > > of info and technique...
> > >
> > > Both RADICALLY different in approach....
> > >
> > > Me? I'm old and crippled and harmless...I use
> a cane
> > > these days.
> > >
> > > What I DO do, is continue to find all the things
> the best
> > > systems
> > > have IN COMMON and find the reasons they are held
> as truth
> > > across
> > > the systems and across the world..
> > >
> > > Welcome!
> > >
> > >
> > > As for the stick, no worries! I actually am a
> canesmith,
> > > and this has
> > > been a torture test for my process...I call it a
> pass, all
> > > things
> > > considered.
> > >
> > >
> > > Dirk
> > > "Speak  softly and carry a big stick; you
> will go
> > > far"
> > > Theodore Roosevelt   Sept 3, 1901
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- On Tue 06/24, Chris Denmark <
> cdenmark13@yahoo. ca
> > > > wrote:
> > > From: Chris Denmark [mailto: cdenmark13@yahoo.
> ca]
> > > To: non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups.
> com
> > > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
> > > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_ stickfighting] new
> member
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > hi
> > > there Dirk my man,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > sorry
> > > to hear about your stick. a bit bout me. born in
> englehart,
> > > ontario, but my dad move around alot for
> business. trained
> > > in
> > > escrima, kune tao, kendo, gatka, yedo, and woldo
> for the
> > > past 22 years in Indonesia, India,
> > > Philippines, and South Korea.. moved back to
> Canada in 1992
> > > and switched over to
> > > BJJ for a bit, then played away with some mma
> crap as well,
> > > boooooring, then
> > > recently got back into escrima/arnis stick
> fighting, and
> > > about a month ago
> > > started training in bata. sticks have my heart
> man, i just
> > > love da sounds, da
> > > screams, and da "ummph" when someone
> takes a hit.
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >
> > >
> > > ____________ _________ _________ _________
> ________
> > > Join Excite! - http://www.excite. com
> > > The most personalized portal on the Web!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> the web, and
> > > bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at
> > > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
> >

Glen,

A) we did not need *HIM* to tell us that!

B) If he's got true Gatka techniques and he's holding back...
BEAT it out of him...

I knew a couple of Sikh's when I served...oddly from *my* perspective
as a YOUNG American, some of the nicest and MOST DANGEROUS guys
I ever knew...same can be said for a friend from Basic named Penido
Liberado...could have killed me in 1 minute if he's wanted too...
but instead showed me a few things...probably saved my life...

It's the quiet ones you have to watch...which of course leaves me out...


I'm a harmless old cripple...

Dirk

--- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com, Glen Doyle
<uisceman@...> wrote:
>
> Way to make me sound psychotic, Christopher. *lol*
>
> Actually Dirk, Chris won't say it but he is pretty talented and
obviously well trained... moves very well for a guy his size and has
great natural stick instincts, very talented... we're trying to
convince him to share some of those Sikh sword techniques he's been
taught... :)
>
> Glen
>
> --- On Wed, 6/25/08, Chris Denmark <cdenmark13@...> wrote:
>
> > From: Chris Denmark <cdenmark13@...>
> > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new member
> > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> > Yeah, i've looked at the msp stuff on the utube, love da
> > sounds man, whack whack whack! thanks for the info, and
> > actually i'm training with glen now. he was recommended
> > by a couple of Angel biker buddies of mine about a year ago,
> > and i finally dropped in on a class in oakville about a
> > month ago, and me being the arrogant ass that i am, i
> > wanted to test it before commiting to the system, so I told
> > glen i wanted to test it, he says sure, and motions for me
> > to follow him outside, so i liked him immediately, then i
> > asked how we decide points and stuff and the dude just
> > shakes his head and says, the guy out cold on the sidewalk
> > lost.
> > dirk, i freakin loved it man, blood pumping, adrenalin
> > pumping, it was sweet ass sweet but i do have a day job and
> > needs to be able to work with my hands, so i wanted to stick
> > with sparring, anyway, i told him i just wanted to spar a
> > bit, so one of his guys, rich, awesome guy, took me up on
> > the match and after about 10 minutes of intense aggressive
> > techniques that bruised the living crap out of me, i said
> > this irish bata thing is worth my time. i like the timing,
> > so different from what i had learned, the breaking of the
> > distance was odd, i figured with a long stick it's
> > easier to keep them away, or get them before they get
> > close, but an odd timing to fight against. i'm very
> > intrigued about the msp system as well, i love the stick
> > length, something i'm used to, and i like the footwork,
> > also something i'm used to. i guess i'll try to haul
> > my butt out there in the future, where out west BC? i love
> > any and all approaches to sticks man, any and all, the more
> >  they vary the more i drool.
> >
> > so tell me more about this list, what do we do here?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Dirk <defolmer@...>
> > To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:39:18 PM
> > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new member
> >
> >
> >
> > Chris,
> > well, damn. That sounds like a hell of a resume.
> >
> > I don't know your particular idiom...we've got some
> > EXCELLENT
> > resources up north...In ontario there is Glen Doyle, about
> > the
> > only guy with traceable Generational system, and out west
> > there
> > is Mi Amigo JP Sullivan, of the infamous MSP...either one a
> > FONT
> > of info and technique...
> >
> > Both RADICALLY different in approach....
> >
> > Me? I'm old and crippled and harmless...I use a cane
> > these days.
> >
> > What I DO do, is continue to find all the things the best
> > systems
> > have IN COMMON and find the reasons they are held as truth
> > across
> > the systems and across the world..
> >
> > Welcome!
> >
> >
> > As for the stick, no worries! I actually am a canesmith,
> > and this has
> > been a torture test for my process...I call it a pass, all
> > things
> > considered.
> >
> >
> > Dirk
> > "Speak  softly and carry a big stick; you will go
> > far"
> > Theodore Roosevelt   Sept 3, 1901
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Tue 06/24, Chris Denmark < cdenmark13@yahoo. ca
> > > wrote:
> > From: Chris Denmark [mailto: cdenmark13@yahoo. ca]
> > To: non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com
> > Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
> > Subject: Re: [non-traditional_ stickfighting] new member
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > hi
> > there Dirk my man,
> >
> >
> >
> > sorry
> > to hear about your stick. a bit bout me. born in englehart,
> > ontario, but my dad move around alot for business. trained
> > in
> > escrima, kune tao, kendo, gatka, yedo, and woldo for the
> > past 22 years in Indonesia, India,
> > Philippines, and South Korea.. moved back to Canada in 1992
> > and switched over to
> > BJJ for a bit, then played away with some mma crap as well,
> > boooooring, then
> > recently got back into escrima/arnis stick fighting, and
> > about a month ago
> > started training in bata. sticks have my heart man, i just
> > love da sounds, da
> > screams, and da "ummph" when someone takes a hit.
> >
> > Chris
> >
> >
> > ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________
> > Join Excite! - http://www.excite. com
> > The most personalized portal on the Web!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________________________
> > Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and
> > bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at
> > http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.
>

Way to make me sound psychotic, Christopher. *lol*

Actually Dirk, Chris won't say it but he is pretty talented and obviously well
trained... moves very well for a guy his size and has great natural stick
instincts, very talented... we're trying to convince him to share some of those
Sikh sword techniques he's been taught... :)

Glen

--- On Wed, 6/25/08, Chris Denmark <cdenmark13@...> wrote:

> From: Chris Denmark <cdenmark13@...>
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new member
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Wednesday, June 25, 2008, 4:11 AM
> Yeah, i've looked at the msp stuff on the utube, love da
> sounds man, whack whack whack! thanks for the info, and
> actually i'm training with glen now. he was recommended
> by a couple of Angel biker buddies of mine about a year ago,
> and i finally dropped in on a class in oakville about a
> month ago, and me being the arrogant ass that i am, i
> wanted to test it before commiting to the system, so I told
> glen i wanted to test it, he says sure, and motions for me
> to follow him outside, so i liked him immediately, then i
> asked how we decide points and stuff and the dude just
> shakes his head and says, the guy out cold on the sidewalk
> lost.
> dirk, i freakin loved it man, blood pumping, adrenalin
> pumping, it was sweet ass sweet but i do have a day job and
> needs to be able to work with my hands, so i wanted to stick
> with sparring, anyway, i told him i just wanted to spar a
> bit, so one of his guys, rich, awesome guy, took me up on
> the match and after about 10 minutes of intense aggressive
> techniques that bruised the living crap out of me, i said
> this irish bata thing is worth my time. i like the timing,
> so different from what i had learned, the breaking of the
> distance was odd, i figured with a long stick it's
> easier to keep them away, or get them before they get
> close, but an odd timing to fight against. i'm very
> intrigued about the msp system as well, i love the stick
> length, something i'm used to, and i like the footwork,
> also something i'm used to. i guess i'll try to haul
> my butt out there in the future, where out west BC? i love
> any and all approaches to sticks man, any and all, the more
>  they vary the more i drool.
>
> so tell me more about this list, what do we do here?
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Dirk <defolmer@...>
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Tuesday, June 24, 2008 8:39:18 PM
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new member
>
>
>
> Chris,
> well, damn. That sounds like a hell of a resume.
>
> I don't know your particular idiom...we've got some
> EXCELLENT
> resources up north...In ontario there is Glen Doyle, about
> the
> only guy with traceable Generational system, and out west
> there
> is Mi Amigo JP Sullivan, of the infamous MSP...either one a
> FONT
> of info and technique...
>
> Both RADICALLY different in approach....
>
> Me? I'm old and crippled and harmless...I use a cane
> these days.
>
> What I DO do, is continue to find all the things the best
> systems
> have IN COMMON and find the reasons they are held as truth
> across
> the systems and across the world..
>
> Welcome!
>
>
> As for the stick, no worries! I actually am a canesmith,
> and this has
> been a torture test for my process...I call it a pass, all
> things
> considered.
>
>
> Dirk
> "Speak  softly and carry a big stick; you will go
> far"
> Theodore Roosevelt   Sept 3, 1901
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue 06/24, Chris Denmark < cdenmark13@yahoo. ca
> > wrote:
> From: Chris Denmark [mailto: cdenmark13@yahoo. ca]
> To: non-traditional_ stickfighting@ yahoogroups. com
> Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_ stickfighting] new member
>
>
>
>
> hi
> there Dirk my man,
>
>
>
> sorry
> to hear about your stick. a bit bout me. born in englehart,
> ontario, but my dad move around alot for business. trained
> in
> escrima, kune tao, kendo, gatka, yedo, and woldo for the
> past 22 years in Indonesia, India,
> Philippines, and South Korea.. moved back to Canada in 1992
> and switched over to
> BJJ for a bit, then played away with some mma crap as well,
> boooooring, then
> recently got back into escrima/arnis stick fighting, and
> about a month ago
> started training in bata. sticks have my heart man, i just
> love da sounds, da
> screams, and da "ummph" when someone takes a hit.
>
> Chris
>
>
> ____________ _________ _________ _________ ________
> Join Excite! - http://www.excite. com
> The most personalized portal on the Web!
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________________________________________
> Yahoo! Canada Toolbar: Search from anywhere on the web, and
> bookmark your favourite sites. Download it now at
> http://ca.toolbar.yahoo.com.

Chris,
well, damn. That sounds like a hell of a resume.

I don't know your particular idiom...we've got some EXCELLENT
resources up north...In ontario there is Glen Doyle, about the
only guy with traceable Generational system, and out west there
is Mi Amigo JP Sullivan, of the infamous MSP...either one a FONT
of info and technique...

Both RADICALLY different in approach....

Me? I'm old and crippled and harmless...I use a cane these days.

What I DO do, is continue to find all the things the best systems
have IN COMMON and find the reasons they are held as truth across
the systems and across the world..

Welcome!


As for the stick, no worries! I actually am a canesmith, and this has
been a torture test for my process...I call it a pass, all things
considered.


Dirk
"Speak  softly and carry a big stick; you will go far"
Theodore Roosevelt   Sept 3, 1901




  --- On Tue 06/24, Chris Denmark < cdenmark13@... > wrote:
From: Chris Denmark [mailto: cdenmark13@...]
To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 15:29:49 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] new member




hi
there Dirk my man,



sorry
to hear about your stick. a bit bout me. born in englehart, ontario, but my dad
move around alot for business. trained in
escrima, kune tao, kendo, gatka, yedo, and woldo for the past 22 years in
Indonesia, India,
Philippines, and South Korea.. moved back to Canada in 1992 and switched over to
BJJ for a bit, then played away with some mma crap as well, boooooring, then
recently got back into escrima/arnis stick fighting, and about a month ago
started training in bata. sticks have my heart man, i just love da sounds, da
screams, and da "ummph" when someone takes a hit.

Chris



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Dear friends....

It is with sadness in my soul and a heavy heart that I must announce
that after almost a year of constant stick to stick practice that one
of my 7/8 in. canes has CRACKED...

Services will be held this weekend.


da da daaaaaa, da da daaaaaa, da da da, da da da, da da daaaaaa....




Dirk
"Speak softly and carry a big stick; you will go far"
Theodore Roosevelt Sept 3, 1901

He actually just moved back to Toronto a couple months ago.
I'll pass on the greeting.

--j

On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 12:04 PM, Glen Doyle <uisceman@...> wrote:
> Hey John, thanks for the compliment :)... how's Amiel doing? Haven't seen him
in a few years.
>
> If you cross paths with him again, please forward him my hello.
>
> Glen
>
>
> --- On Mon, 6/16/08, John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:
>
>> From: John Enzinas <jenzinas@...>
>> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Welcome, Innervortex
>> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
>> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 8:03 PM
>> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Glen Doyle
>> <uisceman@...> wrote:
>> > Glen Doyle
>>
>> Hi Glen! I just recognized your name.
>>
>> I was actually neighbors of one of your students here in
>> Ottawa named Amiel.
>> also, I really enjoyed your book.
>>
>> --j
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>

Hey John, thanks for the compliment :)... how's Amiel doing? Haven't seen him in
a few years.

If you cross paths with him again, please forward him my hello.

Glen


--- On Mon, 6/16/08, John Enzinas <jenzinas@...> wrote:

> From: John Enzinas <jenzinas@...>
> Subject: Re: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Welcome, Innervortex
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, June 16, 2008, 8:03 PM
> On Thu, May 22, 2008 at 2:14 PM, Glen Doyle
> <uisceman@...> wrote:
> > Glen Doyle
>
> Hi Glen! I just recognized your name.
>
> I was actually neighbors of one of your students here in
> Ottawa named Amiel.
> also, I really enjoyed your book.
>
> --j