I would like to see some street effective Capoeria, all the stuff we have here
in Sydney is for the sandal wearers and fruit juice drinkers, lots of music and
leaping around and not much else. I sparred several of them and just crashed in,
took the hit such as it was and duffed them up. I have seen footage of some
guys in Brazil I think might not have let that happen but what we have here
appeals to the athletic arty farty types wanting something esoteric and exotic
that they can pretend teaches them self defence.

I can't believe that the art isn't intended to be effective for real, otherwise
why would it have been developed? Unless it was developed as a form of exercise
or entertainment and somebody thought, hey, this might make a system of self
defence! I would appreciate some feedback and other points of view because as I
said, all the Capoeria I have seen has been fun, definitely for the fit and
great to watch but not what I would call street effective. Cheers Perry

--- On Fri, 6/13/08, ELLIS <ellischasemichael@...> wrote:

> From: ELLIS <ellischasemichael@...>
> Subject: [non-traditional_stickfighting] Re: Love the JDP stuff
> To: non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, June 13, 2008, 1:20 PM
> Thanks for the response, and by the way, your English is
> great (MUCH
> better than my Portuguese!). I really do love the fluidness
> of your
> art, as well as the concept of using your economy of motion
> in order
> to set up your next move. It's very similar to Capoeira
> in that way.
> I can't wait to see more, and to try blending it with
> my
> Capoeira "play." Should make a beautiful outcome,
> not to mention a
> deadly one. --Ellis
>
>
> --- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com,
> "innervortex"
> <InnerVortex@...> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, capoeira is a very beautiful martial art and lots
> of people
> > practice it here in portugal too.
> > There are more jogo do pau videos here:
> > http://www.youtube.com/group/jogodopau
> > and i will add more as soon as they show up.
> > As you can see, yes, jogo do pau is very fluid, but
> that only
> happens
> > when the blocks are well done.
> > Ill try to explain in my terrible English.
> > When you block, you use the bouncing of your stick to
> start a new
> > attack, thats why it is very fluid, and in
> demonstrations and semi
> > controlled sparing you can play for long time, just
> like that, using
> > the bouncing and striking back with lots of speed.
> > Of course in real life or competitions that happens a
> few times, or
> > lasts only a few seconds until some one makes a
> mistake or one of
> them
> > surprises the other.
> > What i want to say is that this fluidity comes from
> strong contact
> and
> > reaction, and well use and direction of energy in
> motion.
> > hope it could help,
> > im also doing a website about jogo do pau, but its
> mainly in
> > portuguese so it might not help much, here:
> jogodopauportugues.com
> > Cheers!
> >
> > --- In non-traditional_stickfighting@yahoogroups.com,
> "ELLIS"
> > <ellischasemichael@> wrote:
> > >
> > > You know, the more I see the JDP stuff, the more
> I like it. I
> really am
> > > lovin' the long stick in JDP, mainly. I study
> Capoeira (a
> brizilian
> > > martial art) which incorprates short stick/club
> play in it. The
> Doyle
> > > style bata stuff fits like a glove for the medium
> stick/cane. And
> I
> > > really think the long stick stuff would
> incorprate well into my
> > > capoeira, as well. See, Capoeira is a art that is
> always in
> motion.
> > > there are no static postions at all, your always
> moving and I
> think
> > > that would translate well into the JDP stick play
> (from what I've
> seen
> > > of it), as it seems to always be in motion as
> well. I like how,
> to
> > > generate more power, you slide along the lenght
> of the stick
> which
> > > would probley help whith the long stick in closer
> quarters as
> well. I
> > > was wandering if someone could elaborate a bit on
> JDP as a whole,
> as I
> > > don't know much about it. Love the clips,
> keep 'em coming.--Ellis
> > >
> >