Thanks Tyranez for that detailed discussion of height measurments.

but any new news to report about Noah's goings-on?? what's he up to these days? doing any contests or appearances? will he be at this year's Arnold expo??

most of all any new photos to share? thanks.

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At least during the first hour of his day anyhow.

The reasoning for this, is that the spinal discs expand while people
sleep.

People who are already taller, who have longer spines, expand even
more-so 1 inch is about average, some folks a little more or less,
and more is typical of taller people.

I am just going to guess, that Noah has also used hGH in the past.

I have "no proof" of this, however if he ever has used it for at
least 6 months of his life, his discs would be even thicker than in
most people, and thus the morning expansion would be more.

So how much more morning height will thicker discs cause, and how
much of an increase in the rest of the day?

Plenty. hGH use, at even normal bodybuilding doses, can in some
people increase the thickness of the discs by up to 2mm, at least for
the sleeping expansion. That would result in an increase in morning
measurment of up to 1.8 inches, or 4.6cm. BR>
Add to that, that even the normal increase for a guy who is 6'6", is
going to be a full inch, perhaps an inch and a half when he sleeps.

So even conservatively, if Noah is already 6'6" for his afternoon, or
after exercising height, his waking measurement would be at LEAST
6'7". More like 6'7.5".

Now if he has ever used hGH for any time period of his life, then his
morning height could be as much as 6'8".

His compressed (noon, or after exercise) height would not have
increased as much, as the extra growth of the discs means little
after they compress, however there would still be some growth, so he
may have gone from 6'6", to 6'6.5", or even 6'6.75".

The last time he was measured was while he was in the Army, and the
Army would measure guys right after the annual APFT's, during which
the last event is a 2 mile run.

This is actually the WORST time to be measured, as the action of
running compresses t he discs, no different than tapping a pack of
cigarettes packs the contents. This can make a guy who is normally
6'6.5", come up as only 6'6" even. Yes, running two miles can
compress you discs a full 1.2 cm or .5" inch, for a couple hours, or
even until you sleep again.

Not that running is bad for you, but don't short yourself a half inch
by measuring right after you run. The army always does this for some
reason however.

So looking over the math, even if Noah has not ever used hGH, he
still would be a half inch taller on days he had not been running,
and a full inch over that (at least) when he wakes up.

SO IMHO it is more than fair to call him 6'7"+, at least before
gravity takes its daily toll.