Yup, pretty similar for me. I have a light GPS -- a Garmin eTrex --
but it was a little too bulky for running and the data was often wrong
at that level, e.g. it would say I had a max speed of 16km/u when I
never done more than 10km/u. That was just the GPS getting confused.
It would similar lose chunks if I ran through woods. The ease of use
of the s/w sold me when I saw the manual on the web. The watch lived
up to its promise there.

I definitely felt cheated when I discovered that 'my view' meant you
could decide whether you wanted HR OR pace OR dist not your
combination of the above on one view. This is the one feature that the
watch badly needs. It isn't a 'killer app', more of a hygiene factor
that stops the watch from doing what it obviously should do. Having
said that, if it had that, I would not be looking for another watch
for the next few years! A nice-to-have would be more web integration
of the s/w, e.g. with online coach -- there are a few good ones
available these days that are automated. It would be nice if they
could link in, see what you had run and set your programs
appropriately for the next few weeks.

Cheers
Robin

On 21/08/05, charanis <charanis@...> wrote:
>  I agree with all of these!  I'm a mac guy too.
>
> I think the Nike Software was the deciding factor for me, sync with a Mac
> and show graphically for quick understanding.
> I also wish you had custom view's on the watch; I would prefer to not have
> to switch around when running to see distance and hr for example.
>
>
>
> On Jul 26, 2005, at 6:06 PM, Byron Han wrote:
>  On 7/26/05, Terry Middleton <terry@...> wrote:
>  >  Group - I'm doing a little market research and I have a question for
>  >  everyone.
>  >
>  >  When you considered buying your watch (Nike or other), what were the
>  >  main features/benefits you looked for before you purchased the watch?
>
>  (a) non GPS-based distance measurement (I live in Hawaii where GPS
>  coverage is sometimes spotty especially in the valleys)
>  (b) ability to upload data to a computer, especially Macintosh
>
>  >  Another question:  what feature/benefit do you wish was available on
>  >  the watch, but wasn't?
>
>  (a) ability to have additional custom views that can rotate - for
>  instance, I have my custom view set to Total Distance and Current
>  Pace.  I'd like to be able to see Heart Rate as well, perhaps as a
>  alternating screen
>  (b) the manuals are pretty lame in terms of telling you how to program the
> watch
>  (c) the user interface of the watch is rather confusing...
>
>  >  Thanks for any feedback you might have,
>  >
>  >  Terry
>  >
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Just a quick check. I am having trouble finding a track I can
trust.  The only highschool nearby that has a track open is an old
one and I am not sure if it is metric.  Anyone know what the
triangles mean.  There are staggered starts that are each marked 400
and 800 but I'm not sure where the finish is.  If it is a metric
track it finishes where the inside track starts but if it isn't the
finish will be behind it, right?

Anyway - I ran one lap on the track and my offset is 1081; I'm 5'6"
and I ran about a 8:41 pace to calibrate it.  Does that sound right?

Any help is appreciated.


Jim

I have a new laptop with Tiger. I can't even install the software. It
quits with an error. Unfortunately, I'n not in front of that machine
now but I'll post the actual error later. Anyone solved this problem?

--- In niketiming@yahoogroups.com, "aliciab1970" <aliciab1970@y...> wrote:
> Just downloaded and installed the Mac OS X software, and I initially
ran into the same
> problem you had - no "sync" button, and when I set the watch to
"PC", it could not find a
> connection.  Fortunately, there's an easy solution:  the "read me"
file says you must plug
> the USB dongle device in BEFORE you start the program for the first
time.  I shut down the
> program, made sure the USB device was attached, re-started the
program -- problem
> solved.
>
> --- In niketiming@yahoogroups.com, Dipesh Navsaria <dipesh@n...> wrote:
> > Hi, all.  I discovered this group yesterday while trying to figure
> > out my problem with the Triax Elite software and my new installation
> > of Tiger.  Here's my story, and a request:
> >
> > I did an "Archive and Install" installation of Tiger yesterday on my
> > G4 iMac, which had been running Panther before.  Unfortunately, as
> > many of you know, there were issues after the upgrade.  I found that
> > I couldn't even get the software to start up -- it would quit out
> > after about 1-2 seconds, without even an error message.
> >
> > I fired up the "Console" program and looked to see if an error
> > message was being generated.  Indeed, there was a framework it was
> > looking for that was missing, usbapi_osx.framework.  I went and
found
> > that in my "Previous System" folder and copied to the analogous
place
> > in the current Tiger system.  Voilà!
> >
> > Unfortunately, the "Sync" button was missing now.  I went back to
> > Console and saw a repeated error: it was looking for a device
driver,
> > presumably for the dongle.
> >
> > Error opening serial port /dev/cu.usbserial-2 - No such file or
> > directory(2).
> >
> > I couldn't find this anywhere on the drive, including in the old
> > installation.  Oops.  Fine, I figured I'd see if I could extract it
> > from the original CD-ROM, and if not, I could just preserve my data
> > and do a fresh install from the CD-ROM.  Unfortunately, I can't find
> > the CD-ROM.  Uh-oh.  I'm sure it's in one of these piles of stuff
> > somewhere, but it'll take a while to find.  :-(
> >
> > So, that's my experience so far.  In the meantime, would anyone out
> > there using this product on their Mac be willing to e-mail me their /
> > dev/cu.usbserial-2 file?  Or, even better, an image of their install
> > CD-ROM?  I'm sure I'll find mine eventually, but it'll be a while
due
> > to the huge mess here from months of having little to no free time
to
> > organize things.
> >
> > Hope this helps out other Tiger upgraders who've been having trouble
> > using the Triax HRM/SDM...
> >
> > Peace and Prosperity,
> > Dipesh
> >
> > Physician Assistant, Pediatrics
> > Medical Student, Class of 2006
> > Champaign, Illinois, USA
> > (dipesh@n...)

----- Original Message -----

From: charanis

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Friday, August 19, 2005 8:03 AM

Subject: [niketiming] Lost Watch - update

FYI - I had written a few months back that I lost my watch in a Hotel 
not long ago (I think it was lifted).  Anyway, I did get to the Nike 
support Parsec company and they said I could buy a new one for $224.
Contact for you all
Heather
Supervisor
Parsec Enterprises
7501 N. Harker Dr.
Peoria, IL 61615
1-800-359-2508
retailer@...
www.parsecent.com

I would assume you could get replacements straps and pods as well.

In the end, communicating with them was so hard I gave up and 
purchased one online for $259.0 that included a brand new set 
including the pod and strap.00

I am recovering from Arthroscopic surgery to replace a torn meniscus 
on my left knee so I'm just running slow for time now. I can't wait 
to use it to get back in shape!

Jim

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FYI - I had written a few months back that I lost my watch in a Hotel
not long ago (I think it was lifted).  Anyway, I did get to the Nike
support Parsec company and they said I could buy a new one for $224.
Contact for you all
Heather
Supervisor
Parsec Enterprises
7501 N. Harker Dr.
Peoria, IL 61615
1-800-359-2508
retailer@...
www.parsecent.com

I would assume you could get replacements straps and pods as well.

In the end, communicating with them was so hard I gave up and
purchased one online for $259.0 that included a brand new set
including the pod and strap.

I am recovering from Arthroscopic surgery to replace a torn meniscus
on my left knee so I'm just running slow for time now. I can't wait
to use it to get back in shape!

Jim

----- Original Message -----

From: Austin Robinson-Coolidge

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 5:40 PM

Subject: Re: [niketiming] Triax Elite HRM/SDM Battery

The SDM pod takes an AAA, the HRM takes a CR2032 3V Lithium, and the watch takes a CR2025 3V Lithium.

Austin

On Aug 16, 2005, at 4:33 PM, ROBERT PHILLIPS wrote:

What is battery model ? I don't have my manual ?

 

Bob

----- Original Message -----

From: Austin Robinson-Coolidge

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [niketiming] Triax Elite HRM/SDM Battery

I've now changed the batteries in all three parts.  The SDM pod is  
easy (and fairly frequent, at least at high mileage).  The HRM is  
less frequent, but if anything, it's easier.  I found the watch  
itself to be the hardest, mostly because I was having trouble  
juggling the watch and band (which kept getting in my way), the  
cover, and the battery.  It's still not hard, though.  It didn't even  
lose the odometer or scheduled workouts, even though I did the all- 
five-button reset.  All you need to do any of them is a quarter and  
the new battery.

Hope that helps.
Austin

On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Bob wrote:


> Has any one changed the battery in their Triax Elite HRM/SDM????? Mine
> says low battery and wondering if should do it my self or send it back
> for service.
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From: Austin Robinson-Coolidge

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2005 4:12 PM

Subject: Re: [niketiming] Triax Elite HRM/SDM Battery

I've now changed the batteries in all three parts.  The SDM pod is 
easy (and fairly frequent, at least at high mileage).  The HRM is 
less frequent, but if anything, it's easier.  I found the watch 
itself to be the hardest, mostly because I was having trouble 
juggling the watch and band (which kept getting in my way), the 
cover, and the battery.  It's still not hard, though.  It didn't even 
lose the odometer or scheduled workouts, even though I did the all-
five-button reset.  All you need to do any of them is a quarter and 
the new battery.

Hope that helps.
Austin

On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Bob wrote:


> Has any one changed the battery in their Triax Elite HRM/SDM????? Mine
> says low battery and wondering if should do it my self or send it back
> for service.
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I've now changed the batteries in all three parts.  The SDM pod is
easy (and fairly frequent, at least at high mileage).  The HRM is
less frequent, but if anything, it's easier.  I found the watch
itself to be the hardest, mostly because I was having trouble
juggling the watch and band (which kept getting in my way), the
cover, and the battery.  It's still not hard, though.  It didn't even
lose the odometer or scheduled workouts, even though I did the all-
five-button reset.  All you need to do any of them is a quarter and
the new battery.

Hope that helps.
Austin

On Aug 16, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Bob wrote:


> Has any one changed the battery in their Triax Elite HRM/SDM????? Mine
> says low battery and wondering if should do it my self or send it back
> for service.
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Has any one changed the battery in their Triax Elite HRM/SDM????? Mine
says low battery and wondering if should do it my self or send it back
for service.

Bob

The watch seems to go into a strange mode where it starts to sample at
much lower rate.  I noticed that the graphs were very low resolution
on a recent upload.  Looking at the export file for the workouts, I
noticed that the sampling frequency was 40 seconds compared to the
normal 10 seconds.  Does anyone know how the watch gets in this state?
  If I reload the watch from the software it goes back to 10 seconds.
Does the system switch to a lower sampling frequency when the memory
is getting low on the watch because I haven't synced in a while?
Also, does anyone have the watch randomly reset to Jan 1 and 12:00.

I've had mine since January and haven't had to change the battery
yet, but then again, I have been doing fairly light running due to my
schedule.

Incidentally, after coming back home after 2 weeks away, I decided to
try my HRM strap again before I hauled it up to Peoria on Thursday.
(Peoria is where the repair center is, and I was going to be there
for a meeting anyhow.)  Mysteriously, it started up and worked just
fine.  Go figure.

I won't bother taking it to the repair center since it's working
flawlessly again, but if it acts up again, I'll send it off to them...

Peace and Prosperity,
Dipesh

----- Original Message -----

From: jabernstein_y

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, August 10, 2005 10:10 AM

Subject: [niketiming] SDM Battery Life

About how many miles (or time on) is the battery life for the Triax
Elite foot pod.  I've had it conk out on me twice during runs, which
is very annoying.  Is there any notice?

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About how many miles (or time on) is the battery life for the Triax
Elite foot pod.  I've had it conk out on me twice during runs, which
is very annoying.  Is there any notice?

Hi there - new member here, about to buy a Nike cv10... but - it seems
it does not connect up with a pc. is that the case, and if so is it
possible to download from a cv10?

thanks

Hi all,

If I buy the same shoes which I have now but with .5 size more. Do I
need to re-calibrate the SDM again or use the old calibration.

Thanks.

Mohammad Zaky, CMA

Remember that the treadmill accuracy is not exact either.  In fact
Polar found the accuracy of most treadmills to be around 97-98%
accurate.  So it doesn't mean it is the watch.  A better test would be
to measure off a distance and run that distance to be sure of an exact
distance.

--- In niketiming@yahoogroups.com, "pro01232000" <acct_m_zaky@h...> wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> I ran 2 miles on the treadmill with speed 13.4 km/hr, and had a rest
> for 2 minuites. I ran again 2 miles after the rest on the same speed,
> but on the data it shows slight difference between the two sessions.
>
> Anyway the speed shown in the data was 13 km/hr only which is not
> right.
>
> Does anyone experience the same problem?
>
> Best Regards...
>
> Mohammad Zaky, CMA

Just downloaded and installed the Mac OS X software, and I initially ran into
the same
problem you had - no "sync" button, and when I set the watch to "PC", it could
not find a
connection.  Fortunately, there's an easy solution:  the "read me" file says you
must plug
the USB dongle device in BEFORE you start the program for the first time.  I
shut down the
program, made sure the USB device was attached, re-started the program --
problem
solved.

--- In niketiming@yahoogroups.com, Dipesh Navsaria <dipesh@n...> wrote:
> Hi, all.  I discovered this group yesterday while trying to figure
> out my problem with the Triax Elite software and my new installation
> of Tiger.  Here's my story, and a request:
>
> I did an "Archive and Install" installation of Tiger yesterday on my
> G4 iMac, which had been running Panther before.  Unfortunately, as
> many of you know, there were issues after the upgrade.  I found that
> I couldn't even get the software to start up -- it would quit out
> after about 1-2 seconds, without even an error message.
>
> I fired up the "Console" program and looked to see if an error
> message was being generated.  Indeed, there was a framework it was
> looking for that was missing, usbapi_osx.framework.  I went and found
> that in my "Previous System" folder and copied to the analogous place
> in the current Tiger system.  Voilà!
>
> Unfortunately, the "Sync" button was missing now.  I went back to
> Console and saw a repeated error: it was looking for a device driver,
> presumably for the dongle.
>
> Error opening serial port /dev/cu.usbserial-2 - No such file or
> directory(2).
>
> I couldn't find this anywhere on the drive, including in the old
> installation.  Oops.  Fine, I figured I'd see if I could extract it
> from the original CD-ROM, and if not, I could just preserve my data
> and do a fresh install from the CD-ROM.  Unfortunately, I can't find
> the CD-ROM.  Uh-oh.  I'm sure it's in one of these piles of stuff
> somewhere, but it'll take a while to find.  :-(
>
> So, that's my experience so far.  In the meantime, would anyone out
> there using this product on their Mac be willing to e-mail me their /
> dev/cu.usbserial-2 file?  Or, even better, an image of their install
> CD-ROM?  I'm sure I'll find mine eventually, but it'll be a while due
> to the huge mess here from months of having little to no free time to
> organize things.
>
> Hope this helps out other Tiger upgraders who've been having trouble
> using the Triax HRM/SDM...
>
> Peace and Prosperity,
> Dipesh
>
> Physician Assistant, Pediatrics
> Medical Student, Class of 2006
> Champaign, Illinois, USA
> (dipesh@n...)

Hi guys,

I ran 2 miles on the treadmill with speed 13.4 km/hr, and had a rest
for 2 minuites. I ran again 2 miles after the rest on the same speed,
but on the data it shows slight difference between the two sessions.

Anyway the speed shown in the data was 13 km/hr only which is not
right.

Does anyone experience the same problem?

Best Regards...

Mohammad Zaky, CMA

On 7/26/05, Terry Middleton <terry@...> wrote:
>  Group - I'm doing a little market research and I have a question for
>  everyone.
>
>  When you considered buying your watch (Nike or other), what were the
>  main features/benefits you looked for before you purchased the watch?

(a) non GPS-based distance measurement (I live in Hawaii where GPS
coverage is sometimes spotty especially in the valleys)
(b) ability to upload data to a computer, especially Macintosh

>  Another question:  what feature/benefit do you wish was available on
>  the watch, but wasn't?

(a) ability to have additional custom views that can rotate - for
instance, I have my custom view set to Total Distance and Current
Pace.  I'd like to be able to see Heart Rate as well, perhaps as a
alternating screen
(b) the manuals are pretty lame in terms of telling you how to program the watch
(c) the user interface of the watch is rather confusing...

>  Thanks for any feedback you might have,
>
>  Terry
>
>
>
>
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Group - I'm doing a little market research and I have a question for
everyone.

When you considered buying your watch (Nike or other), what were the
main features/benefits you looked for before you purchased the watch?

Another question:  what feature/benefit do you wish was available on
the watch, but wasn't?

Thanks for any feedback you might have,

Terry

Hi all.  I went for a long run a couple of weeks ago, my Triax Elite
HRM/SDM was working just fine.  I then didn't have a chance to use
the system for a couple of weeks.  Yesterday I prepared to go out for
a run, and I couldn't get the watch to find the HRM.  I tried a new
battery, re-pairing the HRM to the watch -- no dice.  There's nothing
at all that gets the HRM to indicate it's doing anything.

Any suggestions?  I'm going to call Nike today, but I suspect it's
going to involve sending the strap in for a service call.  (Hopefully
they don't ask for the watch as well -- at least I'm getting distance
data right now...)

Thanks!

Peace and Prosperity,
Dipesh

----- Original Message -----

From: pro01232000

To: niketiming@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2005 6:38 AM

Subject: [niketiming] Should I adjust the offset value to 1000 when re-calibrating the SDM?

Hi there,

I re-calibrated the SDM and the previous offset value was 1032.

I ran 400 meter and the watch reads 412 m so I adjusted the distance
to be 400.

After checking the offset value I founded it 1004. If the watch reads
more than 400 meter so the offset value should be less than 1000.

I thought the SDM calculates the offset value based on the existing
one 1032.

Does anyone experience the same thing? or I need to calibrate again
but change the offset value to 1000.

Best Regards...

Hi there,

I re-calibrated the SDM and the previous offset value was 1032.

I ran 400 meter and the watch reads 412 m so I adjusted the distance
to be 400.

After checking the offset value I founded it 1004. If the watch reads
more than 400 meter so the offset value should be less than 1000.

I thought the SDM calculates the offset value based on the existing
one 1032.

Does anyone experience the same thing? or I need to calibrate again
but change the offset value to 1000.

Best Regards...

In chrono mode, it's instantaneous pace.  In workout mode, it'll give
you both instantaneous and average pace.  If you're not running set
distances, you can create a 99 mile workout, which should be long
enough for most runs, and just stop it when you're done.

Austin

On Jul 6, 2005, at 8:57 AM, b_mccloskey2000 wrote:

> Greetings. I recently purchased the Nike Triax Elite HRM/SDM
> system. It's great, but there's
> one piece of information I can't seem to find, either in the manual
> or online. What, exactly,
> is the pace display showing when the watch is in Chron mode? Is it
> instantaneous pace?
> Average pace over the total of the run? Pace averaged over the last
> split? Pace averaged
> over the last minute? I would really like during my run to keep
> track of the total
> accumulated average pace -- i.e., am I maintaining an 8:30 mile, or
> whatever -- but don't
> know if this is possible with this watch.
>
> Thanks for the help.
>
> -bryan
>
> PS- are there any other online communities or sites dedicated to
> this watch?
>
> -b
>
>
>
>
>
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

Greetings. I recently purchased the Nike Triax Elite HRM/SDM system. It's great,
but there's
one piece of information I can't seem to find, either in the manual or online.
What, exactly,
is the pace display showing when the watch is in Chron mode? Is it instantaneous
pace?
Average pace over the total of the run? Pace averaged over the last split? Pace
averaged
over the last minute? I would really like during my run to keep track of the
total
accumulated average pace -- i.e., am I maintaining an 8:30 mile, or whatever --
but don't
know if this is possible with this watch.

Thanks for the help.

-bryan

PS- are there any other online communities or sites dedicated to this watch?

-b