I don't think I will ever come to terms with this current Forest side,
you just never know what is going to happen with them from 1 week to
the next.

They go and beat Reading away, but from what I have read, apparently
Reading have been struggling to score recently ? So maybe they played a
side as bad as them a scoring lately.

Tyson out again.....

 
 
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They say the definition of insanity is doing the same thing a hundred times, and
always expecting a different outcome. So Nigel Doughty and me do have something
in common after all.

This season marks my eighteenth year as a Forest supporter. I’ll start by
saying that at no point has that support been on the proviso that we’d win a
particular game, sign a certain player, or succeed in any meaningful way. It is,
as is yours, almost wholly unconditional. It never hinged on the expectation of
them achieving anything in particular.

Which is fortunate, really, because the triumphs have been sparse and –
really, in the larger scheme of English football – insignificant. Three
promotions. Mostly, it’s been a long, lazy, interminable slump of
mismanagement and underperformance. But still, I’ve expected nothing more from
the money I’ve spent and the miles I’ve travelled than a consistency in
effort and a suggestion, however punitive, that the club were attempting to move
vaguely northwards. That was always enough.

So what’s left me curious is why, in the past 18 months, my tolerance has so
dramatically waned. How that fat indifference coalesced in the midst of one of
the two or three concrete actual, genuine achievements I’ve witnessed. The
charm, romance, affirmation outside of football’s spotlight has run its
course.

I feel I’ve reached a point of crisis: namely, I’ve never cared less about
Nottingham Forest Football Club. As they lapse from one farce to another – as
managers come and go, as promise-addled summers fog into the same Spartan months
of inactivity and lousy PR, with the bar-gate of relegations ready to be slashed
across with its fifth, damning tally – it’s become, somehow, enough. I’m
just tired of it. Tired of failure – the endlessly inventive failures. So many
were avoidable. Tired of that instinctive look that softens people’s eyes when
I tell them I’m a Forest fan, as if they’re offering wordless, wincing
sympathy for some malignant genital disorder. I mean, I care, obviously. Just
not as much as I might. And not as much as I would have, once.

No more heroes. For a while, I thought it was just age. The brutish hopelessness
of this sport, legislated by age and priority and perspective. But no, I
remember my first games, the magical spirit of them, training sessions and
autographs, my dad and other grown-ups bewitched by young men ten, fifteen years
their junior. Forest had a great side then, but you don’t really need a
successful team to spawn heroes - there have been heroes up and down the
country, throughout the leagues, across the years. People who reeked of
character and commitment. People who set ravenously about the cause with the
gathered hearts and wills of a whole city. I remember walking behind Stuart
Pearce as a 10-year old, on the way down to Lady Bay, loosely aware that this
was a man of significance and presence, someone worthy of my attention.
Personally, I can’t imagine anyone in today’s squad assuming that kind of
gravitas for a youngster. Would you recognise Gareth McLeary if he passed you in
the street? Kelvin Wilson? Aaron Davies? Would you be inclined to stop them, or
say anything?

It’s not their fault, mind, these players. They’re just the latest
assemblage of kids, waifs and strays, and they generally try their best, but
they’re not part of a culture or a tradition, anything tangibly Forest. Just
émigrés. In three years, they’ll all be gone – some moving upwards, some
down. There’s no promise of permanence. No seeds for a legacy. Just a flimsy
bunch of lads in a woefully under-manned squad, trying their level best not to
get relegated, apeing that pungent, musty sense of ‘getting-by’ that’s
drizzled through the club for years now. Kids don’t fill scrap-books on that.

Still, that’s the reality of Forest today. All rather anonymous and lethargic
and impersonal. Sterile. Crap team, crap football, crap prices, crap atmosphere.
I hope, I dream, but I learned quickly never to expect. The last day of last
season was so preposterously at odds with the preceding nine months, sort of
like the Titanic suddenly righting itself in the mid-Atlantic and wheezing
instead into the waiting crowds at New York, on a crest of improbable good
fortune. And already, those memories are fading.

For all this pessimism, I’ve always been galvanized by the singular, idiot
hope, yapping away every matchday, that this time, this time, they’ll get it
right. It’s not unreasonable to search out and hope for the best in someone,
something, anything that you love. As John Cleese once said, though, it’s the
hope I can’t stand. It seems that the continued mismanagement of Doughty, the
somnambulant regimes of Kinnear, Megson and Calderwood, and the dawn of message
boards have radicalized swathes of Forest fans into a fat, poisonous sense of
despondency. Life outside the Premiership is gleefully patronised as ‘real’
and ‘sincere’, but these lean, mean years can’t be what football’s
really about; dreary, squandered afternoons of unfulfilled potential. An
endless, tepid insistence on thrift and survival. The game wouldn’t have
lasted, were that the case. And that’s why I can’t accept that afternoon in
May as the sole reimbursement for the failures witnessed, or as an insurance
against those still to come.

There’s something fraudulent and heartless about the glimmering,
high-definition end of football. It’s a war in a galaxy far, far away; the
bludgeoning monotone of the ‘Big Four’, their glossy tabloid brawls across
the back pages. Perhaps this is how supporters are supposed to achieve true
self-definition in football’s glorious modern age: an enforced sentencing to
backwater masochism. But without promise, struggle and strife cannot enrich;
rolling with the ill-governed flails of your team should not be arbiters of
value and worth in a football supporter. Our condition does not demand
incompetence, surely? Because fans outside the Premiership are no more
‘real’, just participants in the consoling myth that supporters of an
incapable team are compensated by a stronger, earthy connections with their
club. That we’re ‘getting more out of it’, somehow. That doesn’t seem to
be the case at Forest, though. And it hasn’t been for a long time.

I want to fall back in love with Forest and football. I loathe this ambivalence.
I’d even take another couple of years in the Third Division if it meant
something, if it somehow felt like it used to, if it defibrillated back some of
the interest and the enthusiasm. Because for all the disasters sprinkled across
this past decade, the most prominent scar, the thing that best defines them, is
that I just stopped caring. And that hurts more than any relegation.

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Derby weren’t great but were still easily the better side and put us right
back in trouble. All the good work at the start of the year has been wasted and
we’re likely to find ourselves back in the relegation zone next weekend.

They wanted it more than we did and it showed. Despite the cup defeat there
wasn’t a reaction from our side to that loss as they controlled the game right
from the start.

You would have thought we might have learned something from the previous Derby
games and tried to put more pressure on Savage. Instead we let him run the
midfield again with Perch spending more time alongside the defence as opposed to
getting stuck into their midfield. Thankfully we’ll have to make a change with
a two match ban on the way for 10 yellows.

All the obvious faults are there for all to see. A keeper so lacking in
confidence that he very rarely leaves the comfort of his line and has no
communication with his defence. A fragile defence getting punished for every
mistake they make and incapable of passing to a team-mate. The midfield went
missing for long spells during the game and never provided any support to the
forwards. A front two with so little to work with and struggling to make an
impression on their defence.

We started both halves terribly and poor defending cost us goals on both
occasions. Chambers didn’t clear a free kick and the resulting shot flew past
Smith. Breckin then got beaten in the air for the second. Perch then conceded a
needless penalty to round things off nicely. We looked better in the closing
stages when Chambers finally got replaced by Perch at right back to allow
McCleary down the right. His cross found Earnshaw to score with a neat header.

Earnshaw was unlucky with one lob just over the bar in the first half but
another effort that bobbled. In the second half he hit a long range curling
effort just over before he scored. There was a bit more excitement in the
closing stages but most fans were long gone by that stage and anything else
would have been unjustified.

Cohen should come back into central midfield and I’d like to see us go back to
451 adding numbers to the midfield including Thornhill to get us playing
football. It served us very well at the start of the year and I’m surprised
that we’ve switched in recent weeks.

Morgan took the opportunity to keep Commons pretty quiet but Breckin struggled
badly against Hulse. Chambers looks badly out of form and repeatedly lumped the
ball at head height towards Tyson and Earnshaw. McCleary provided some promising
moments in the latter stages and has to be close to a starting place now. Cohen
struggled but he was trying to do the work of three men from the left wing. 
Perch useless. MOTM Earnshaw made a welcome return from injury and was the one
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Probably doesn't seem like it, but I TRY not to be negative and they
are only opinions, it is an open forum and not really trying to be
right or wrong, I just know right now, something isn't right, always
a supporter, but will always be critical if it seems like something
is wrong.

And the other thing is, it always seems like there is injury
problems, every year! To me that smacks of not being physically
prepared for the physical side of the game, that lays straight with
the managerial side of the game, you can't tell me other teams don't
have numerous injuries.

Anyway always looking forward to the next game and for a positive
result, it is FOrest after-all.  But imagine how the local supporters
are feeling, 2 losses in a row to Derby :(

--- In nfsdu@yahoogroups.com, Antony Wardle <Antony.Wardle@...> wrote:
>
> even though I am usually a bit more positive
> than Mikeyoz, I'm with him.
>
> We are a thin squad, and with injuries/yellows to
> a couple of key players, we really
> do struggle.
>
> Damm annoying that we didn't sign anyone.
> Getting Camp would have been great
> then replacing CC, and having BD sign
> a couple would have been best, but
> all we've done is get rid of CC.
>
>
> Maybe we can get Robbie  Fowler to
> have a couple of games before he
> comes down to play in the A league ;-)
>
> That league table shows me that we won't be
> playing Championship next season
>
>
> kiwi-red
> (the first one)
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of mikeyoz_1970
> Sent: Monday, 23 February 2009 8:12 AM
> To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed
>
>
> I'm not saying we have to spend like Man U or Chelsea, or even have
> close to those finances. Forest overpaid for certain players in the
> off season given their production this year, they didn't spend smart
> or wise and now they are paying for it with injuries, I am not
saying
> this is all the players fault, if you ask me to comes down to the
> managerial ability of the club to form a good solid squad with
> depth. Truth is, if Earnshaw is out or Tyson is out, things are
> suddenly looking really sh!t and you don't need billions of dollars
> to fix that, you just need to be smart.
>
> I am not saying they should top of the league or even in the
> playoffs, but they SHOULD be able to stay in the CC and we all know
> how easy it is to get caught in a downard spiral.
>
> --- In nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>, PAUL
CLARKE <p.m.clarke@> wrote:
> >
> > I think you need to be a bit more realistic Mikey. We haven't the
> finances of the Chelsea's and Man U's of this world to be able to
> carry a large squad so I think you'll find a lot of clubs like us
are
> reliant on a bit of youth to fill the gaps if injuries arise. You
> just have to hope that you don't get too many at any one time so
that
> you're throwing out a lot of kids when you need some people with
> experience also to 'guide' the youngsters around.
> > I still believe we'll be alright if we get some of those injuried
> guys back in time - we've strung some results together start of the
> year, no reason why we can't do it again
> > Â
> > Kiwi-red
> > (the other one)
> > --- On Mon, 23/2/09, mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@> wrote:
> >
> > From: mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@>
> > Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed
> > To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Received: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 12:06 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Yeah I know what you are saying, but I don't subscribe to the
whole
> > injury situation, every team has their injuries, we are not the
> only
> > team, yeah sure sometimes hits other teams more than others.
> >
> > Every player on that team is a "professional" , paid very well to
> > play, there is always this, we need loan players, cr@p, cr@p.
> >
> > Good teams/clubs find a way to win, even when injuries because
they
> > have a good team and system.
> >
> > --- In nfsdu@yahoogroups. com, "Geoff James" <gjam@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole
> > forward
> > > line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are
sending
> > out
> > > basically a youth team. Agree that we need some loan players but
> > only those
> > > that can hold a team together.
> > >
> > > Geoff
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups. com] On
> > Behalf Of
> > > mikeyoz_1970
> > > Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
> > > To: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com
> > > Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion
> > like
> > > the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.
> > >
> > > Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the
> > supporters
> > > as I guess it is still too early.
> > >
> > > Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
> > > Pemberton being coach ?
> > >
> > > I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a
> > nice
> > > easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of
> > passion
> > > appears to be there again judging from the various reports.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
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even though I am usually a bit more positive
than Mikeyoz, I'm with him.

We are a thin squad, and with injuries/yellows to
a couple of key players, we really
do struggle.

Damm annoying that we didn't sign anyone.
Getting Camp would have been great
then replacing CC, and having BD sign
a couple would have been best, but
all we've done is get rid of CC.


Maybe we can get Robbie  Fowler to
have a couple of games before he
comes down to play in the A league ;-)

That league table shows me that we won't be
playing Championship next season


kiwi-red
(the first one)







From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mikeyoz_1970
Sent: Monday, 23 February 2009 8:12 AM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed


I'm not saying we have to spend like Man U or Chelsea, or even have
close to those finances. Forest overpaid for certain players in the
off season given their production this year, they didn't spend smart
or wise and now they are paying for it with injuries, I am not saying
this is all the players fault, if you ask me to comes down to the
managerial ability of the club to form a good solid squad with
depth. Truth is, if Earnshaw is out or Tyson is out, things are
suddenly looking really sh!t and you don't need billions of dollars
to fix that, you just need to be smart.

I am not saying they should top of the league or even in the
playoffs, but they SHOULD be able to stay in the CC and we all know
how easy it is to get caught in a downard spiral.

--- In nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>, PAUL CLARKE
<p.m.clarke@...> wrote:
>
> I think you need to be a bit more realistic Mikey. We haven't the
finances of the Chelsea's and Man U's of this world to be able to
carry a large squad so I think you'll find a lot of clubs like us are
reliant on a bit of youth to fill the gaps if injuries arise. You
just have to hope that you don't get too many at any one time so that
you're throwing out a lot of kids when you need some people with
experience also to 'guide' the youngsters around.
> I still believe we'll be alright if we get some of those injuried
guys back in time - we've strung some results together start of the
year, no reason why we can't do it again
> Â
> Kiwi-red
> (the other one)
> --- On Mon, 23/2/09, mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...> wrote:
>
> From: mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...>
> Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed
> To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
> Received: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 12:06 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I know what you are saying, but I don't subscribe to the whole
> injury situation, every team has their injuries, we are not the
only
> team, yeah sure sometimes hits other teams more than others.
>
> Every player on that team is a "professional" , paid very well to
> play, there is always this, we need loan players, cr@p, cr@p.
>
> Good teams/clubs find a way to win, even when injuries because they
> have a good team and system.
>
> --- In nfsdu@yahoogroups. com, "Geoff James" <gjam@> wrote:
> >
> > Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole
> forward
> > line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are sending
> out
> > basically a youth team. Agree that we need some loan players but
> only those
> > that can hold a team together.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > From: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups. com] On
> Behalf Of
> > mikeyoz_1970
> > Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
> > To: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion
> like
> > the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.
> >
> > Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the
> supporters
> > as I guess it is still too early.
> >
> > Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
> > Pemberton being coach ?
> >
> > I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a
> nice
> > easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of
> passion
> > appears to be there again judging from the various reports.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>



[Non-text portions of this message have been removed]

I'm not saying we have to spend like Man U or Chelsea, or even have
close to those finances.  Forest overpaid for certain players in the
off season given their production this year, they didn't spend smart
or wise and now they are paying for it with injuries, I am not saying
this is all the players fault, if you ask me to comes down to the
managerial ability of the club to form a good solid squad with
depth.  Truth is, if Earnshaw is out or Tyson is out, things are
suddenly looking really sh!t and you don't need billions of dollars
to fix that, you just need to be smart.

I am not saying they should top of the league or even in the
playoffs, but they SHOULD be able to stay in the CC and we all know
how easy it is to get caught in a downard spiral.

--- In nfsdu@yahoogroups.com, PAUL CLARKE <p.m.clarke@...> wrote:
>
> I think you need to be a bit more realistic Mikey. We haven't the
finances of the Chelsea's and Man U's of this world to be able to
carry a large squad so I think you'll find a lot of clubs like us are
reliant on a bit of youth to fill the gaps if injuries arise. You
just have to hope that you don't get too many at any one time so that
you're throwing out a lot of kids when you need some people with
experience also to 'guide' the youngsters around.
> I still believe we'll be alright if we get some of those injuried
guys back in time - we've strung some results together start of the
year, no reason why we can't do it again
>  
> Kiwi-red
> (the other one)
> --- On Mon, 23/2/09, mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...> wrote:
>
> From: mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...>
> Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed
> To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
> Received: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 12:06 AM
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Yeah I know what you are saying, but I don't subscribe to the whole
> injury situation, every team has their injuries, we are not the
only
> team, yeah sure sometimes hits other teams more than others.
>
> Every player on that team is a "professional" , paid very well to
> play, there is always this, we need loan players, cr@p, cr@p.
>
> Good teams/clubs find a way to win, even when injuries because they
> have a good team and system.
>
> --- In nfsdu@yahoogroups. com, "Geoff James" <gjam@> wrote:
> >
> > Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole
> forward
> > line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are sending
> out
> > basically a youth team. Agree that we need some loan players but
> only those
> > that can hold a team together.
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> >
> >
> > From: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups. com] On
> Behalf Of
> > mikeyoz_1970
> > Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
> > To: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com
> > Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed
> >
> >
> >
> > Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion
> like
> > the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.
> >
> > Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the
> supporters
> > as I guess it is still too early.
> >
> > Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
> > Pemberton being coach ?
> >
> > I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a
> nice
> > easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of
> passion
> > appears to be there again judging from the various reports.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >
>
>
>
>
>
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> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

I think you need to be a bit more realistic Mikey. We haven't the finances of
the Chelsea's and Man U's of this world to be able to carry a large squad so I
think you'll find a lot of clubs like us are reliant on a bit of youth to fill
the gaps if injuries arise. You just have to hope that you don't get too many at
any one time so that you're throwing out a lot of kids when you need some people
with experience also to 'guide' the youngsters around.
I still believe we'll be alright if we get some of those injuried guys back in
time - we've strung some results together start of the year, no reason why we
can't do it again
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one)
--- On Mon, 23/2/09, mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...> wrote:

From: mikeyoz_1970 <pegasus@...>
Subject: [NFSDU] Re: Sad state of affairs indeed
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Received: Monday, 23 February, 2009, 12:06 AM






Yeah I know what you are saying, but I don't subscribe to the whole
injury situation, every team has their injuries, we are not the only
team, yeah sure sometimes hits other teams more than others.

Every player on that team is a "professional" , paid very well to
play, there is always this, we need loan players, cr@p, cr@p.

Good teams/clubs find a way to win, even when injuries because they
have a good team and system.

--- In nfsdu@yahoogroups. com, "Geoff James" <gjam@...> wrote:
>
> Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole
forward
> line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are sending
out
> basically a youth team. Agree that we need some loan players but
only those
> that can hold a team together.
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
> From: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups. com] On
Behalf Of
> mikeyoz_1970
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
> To: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com
> Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed
>
>
>
> Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion
like
> the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.
>
> Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the
supporters
> as I guess it is still too early.
>
> Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
> Pemberton being coach ?
>
> I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a
nice
> easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of
passion
> appears to be there again judging from the various reports.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>
















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Yeah I know what you are saying, but I don't subscribe to the whole
injury situation, every team has their injuries, we are not the only
team, yeah sure sometimes hits other teams more than others.

Every player on that team is a "professional", paid very well to
play, there is always this, we need loan players, cr@p, cr@p.

Good teams/clubs find a way to win, even when injuries because they
have a good team and system.

--- In nfsdu@yahoogroups.com, "Geoff James" <gjam@...> wrote:
>
> Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole
forward
> line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are sending
out
> basically a youth team.  Agree that we need some loan players but
only those
> that can hold a team together.
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
> From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On
Behalf Of
> mikeyoz_1970
> Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
> To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed
>
>
>
> Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion
like
> the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.
>
> Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the
supporters
> as I guess it is still too early.
>
> Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
> Pemberton being coach ?
>
> I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a
nice
> easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of
passion
> appears to be there again judging from the various reports.
>
>
>
>
>
> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>

Think you are being a bit hard Mikey, we have had nearly a whole forward
line on the injury list for the past few weeks and we are sending out
basically a youth team.  Agree that we need some loan players but only those
that can hold a team together.

Geoff



From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mikeyoz_1970
Sent: Sunday, 22 February 2009 5:23 PM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NFSDU] Sad state of affaris indeed



Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion like
the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.

Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the supporters
as I guess it is still too early.

Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
Pemberton being coach ?

I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a nice
easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of passion
appears to be there again judging from the various reports.





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Well, I guess that new managerial smell has faded into oblivion like
the smell of a new car, bit sad and frustrating.

Bit hard to get any sort of gauge as to the feeling of the supporters
as I guess it is still too early.

Who was actually in favour of Davies, who would have preferred
Pemberton being coach ?

I have this un-easy feeling, that Davies just took the job for a nice
easy pretty good CC coaching job salary, because the lack of passion
appears to be there again judging from the various reports.

For long spells we looked second best but credit the young players with having
the spirit to prise a valuable point from a physical QPR side. Too often we
stood off our opponents and resorted to long balls that rarely troubled the
towering visitor’s defence. However, when we pressed our opponents and started
to get the ball on the floor we looked much better.

We started with a back five, Heath and Moloney acting as wing-backs either side
of Wilson, captain Morgan and Chambers. We looked a mess in the early stages
with Chambers and Moloney getting in each other’s way and we soon reverted
back to a conventional back four with Moloney moved to the right hand side of
midfield. The left hand side still proved a problem with no natural wide player
out there.

QPR put in a succession of dubious aerial challenges against Garner and Tyson on
which, amazingly, the referee failed to take any action. Tyson had to be
restrained as he left the field and Garner also failed to finish the game as a
result of his injuries. With this in mind, the eventual point was a very
creditable achievement.

In the early stages we needed some good fortune to stay in the game. On effort
off the post plus another incident where we produced three goal line clearances
in succession to keep us level. It looked like we would be over-run if we were
to fall behind.

However, instead of taking the punishment from the visitors we started to get
stuck into them and make an impression on the game.

It was still a surprise when the opening goal arrived. The cross from the left
was straight at their keeper but Chambers was fouled as he ran into the area and
the linesman gave the penalty. McGugan with the smart finish sending the keeper
the wrong way.

Unfortunately, we couldn’t retain the lead until half time and let them back
into the game. We didn’t close down the cross from the right that was swept
home from via a deflection off Morgan. Smith with no real chance to make a save.

We found ourselves behind almost as soon as the second half started. A chipped
ball from their right found their left winger running across the area and to
produce a neat finish into the top corner. Moloney had tracked their player but
didn’t get a challenge in until it was too late and Smith again couldn’t do
anything about the finish.

We continued to attack and cause them problems and deserved the equaliser. The
ever-willing Chambers got forward to provide a perfect cross from the right,
over the keeper. Cohen headed back across the goal, evading their defenders on
the line, to equalise.

Morgan, made captain in Perch’s absence was a rock at the heart of the defence
whilst Heath again showed plenty of quality keeping the dangerous Routledge
quiet for long spells. Credit Chambers as well for forcing the foul for the
penalty and producing an excellent run and cross for the second.

As so often this season, MOTM Cohen led by example in midfield and has now
started adding goals to his obvious qualities. He’s the one player who has
performed at a Championship standard on a weekly basis and never gave up the
fight. McGugan looked much brighter then recently with some signs that an
improvement in form might be on the way. In games like these we need to get
Thornhill more involved to encourage a more progressive style of play. Too often
he was bypassed in an attempt to get the ball forward quickly.

In the closing stages, McCleary made a difference with his running off the ball
and caused the QPR defence problems. Tyson wasn’t on the field long enough to
make an impression whilst Garner also looked to be struggling following the
rough treatment he received. Newbold worked hard for the team but lacked the
service to really figure in an attacking sense.




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Especially when it is Commons that bags the winner

________________________________

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
PAUL CLARKE
Sent: Thursday, 5 February 2009 8:27 AM
To: Forest Down Under
Subject: [NFSDU] Oh my god!



Let a 2 nil lead go and lose 3-2 to the sheep shaggers. This is a hard
one to take.

Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Let a 2 nil lead go and lose 3-2 to the sheep shaggers. This is a hard one to
take.
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Sorry Paul ;-)

If you've watch NZ cricket as long
as I have, you'd know that NZ could
have easily blown it and very nearly did
although Hadden didn't help!


Any rumors about new players given
that the deadline is sopposed to be
very soon?

kiwi-red
(the first one)



From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Paul
Marcuccitti
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:29 AM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours


Can we have an NFR in the subject line for any mentions of the cricket?
I'm already arranging trauma counselling.

________________________________

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>] On Behalf Of
Antony Wardle
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:23 AM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours

well the cricket was good
even if forest didn't do
quite so well.

tennis was pretty good too

kiwi-red
(the first one)

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
<mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of PAUL CLARKE
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:19 AM
To: Forest Down Under
Subject: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours

Rumour has it Calderwood's going to Southampton and Roy Keane to Sydney
FC!!!

Weekend's result a bit of a come down given previous results.

Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Can we have an NFR in the subject line for any mentions of the cricket?
I'm already arranging trauma counselling.

________________________________

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
Antony Wardle
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:23 AM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours



well the cricket was good
even if forest didn't do
quite so well.

tennis was pretty good too

kiwi-red
(the first one)

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com <mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com <mailto:nfsdu%40yahoogroups.com> ] On
Behalf Of PAUL CLARKE
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:19 AM
To: Forest Down Under
Subject: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours


Rumour has it Calderwood's going to Southampton and Roy Keane to Sydney
FC!!!

Weekend's result a bit of a come down given previous results.

Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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well the cricket was good
even if forest didn't do
quite so well.

tennis was pretty good too

kiwi-red
(the first one)

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of PAUL
CLARKE
Sent: Monday, 2 February 2009 11:19 AM
To: Forest Down Under
Subject: [NFSDU] Interesting rumours


Rumour has it Calderwood's going to Southampton and Roy Keane to Sydney FC!!!

Weekend's result a bit of a come down given previous results.

Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Rumour has it Calderwood's going to Southampton and Roy Keane to Sydney FC!!!
 
Weekend's result a bit of a come down given previous results.
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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G'day OZ,

Just in case any of you are in the UK at Easter or alternatively you fancy
making a donation/raffle tickets in support of these two worthy charities :)

YOU REDS!!

First and foremost an extremely late belated HAPPY NEW YEAR to you all!!

It would be appreciated if you could all start thinking about teams/team
prize/individual prize/charity auction item/payment as believe it or not
only just under 3 months before the event!!

*** If you wish to be removed from this Quiz Night mailing list then please
email me ***

INTRODUCTION (FOR THE NEWCOMERS ONLY!)

For the past 11 seasons I have organized a Quiz Night in Nottingham normally
at Easter Time. What initially started off as a small gathering for members
of the Electronic Internet Mailing List, which was founded by Ian Copping,
has now turned into an annual charity event.

Questions are NOT football related and consist of 3 rounds of General
Knowledge type questions and a 'musical type' round of some description.

DATE/TIME/VENUE OF EVENT.

The 12th Charity Quiz Night which will include a Charity Raffle, Charity
Auction and the U-REDS Prediction League Presentation (To Be Confirmed) will
take place at the Robin Hood Suite at  The City Ground Nottingham on Easter
Sunday 12th April 2009. The Quiz Night is open to all, List & Forum members,
their families, their friends, their friend’s friends and friends of their
friends and so on :)

Time: 5:30pm for a 6:15pm Start (Bar will be open from 5:00pm)

Venue:

The Robin Hood Suite
The City Ground
Nottingham.
NG2 5FJ

This season we are again going to split the proceeds 50/50 between the 'The
Guide Dogs for the Blind Association' and 'When You Wish upon a Star' and
ideally the minimum target figure I would like to raise this year is
£1,200.00 (£600.00 per charity). With your help, support and donations of
prizes for the Charity Raffle & Charity Auction I am sure it could well be
achieved.

"Guide Dogs for the Blind Association" Their mission is to provide guide
dogs, mobility and other rehabilitation services that meet the needs of
blind and partially sighted people. The Guide Dogs for the Blind Association
shapes its services to meet the needs of its community. Whilst guide dogs
are central to their work, they also provide practical living skills
training such as reading and writing as well as other forms of mobility for
example long cane training - often in partnership with local authorities.
Guide Dogs funds work into ophthalmic and canine research, investing in new
technology that could enhance the lives of the UK's blind and partially
sighted population. Guide Dogs are also one of the country's largest
trainers of professionals working in the field of visual impairment and are
one of the founder members of the International Federation of Guide Dogs
Schools.

http://www.gdba.org.uk/

The 'When You Wish upon a Star' charity fulfils the wishes of children with
life threatening and terminal illnesses. These children suffer debilitating
conditions, long periods in hospital and sometimes painful treatments. The
charity has now granted over 5000 wishes. The highlight of each year is to
charter 4 planes to take 400 terminally ill children, to Lapland to meet
Santa in person.

http://www.whenyouwishuponastar.org.uk/

TEAM STRUCTURE!

Each team may consist up to a maximum of SIX team players, must have a
nominated Team Captain and Team Name. Young Persons (12 years of age or
younger) do not count towards the maximum of 6.

COST:

The cost of the evening is £14.00 a head which includes buffet and quiz
entry fees.

Payment must be made before Friday 3rd April 2009.

PAYMENT DETAILS.

Please note that commencing this year payment will be required before the
cut off date and only under exceptional circumstances will I accept it on
the night.

As always there are 3 ways to pay for the evening listed in the preferred
order:

1. By Online Banking: Anyone with online banking facilities who wish to pay
this way then please contact me for my details. This will save me (and thee)
lots of time and hassle!

2. By PayPal: Anyone wishing to pay by PayPal may do but please note this
method of payment does attract 'transaction fees' so therefore the cost per
person will be £15.00.  This again will also save me (and thee) lots of time
and hassle. If you want to pay by this method email me and I will invoice.

3. By 'Snail Mail': Cheques payable to MR D BROWN forwarding them to me at:

Mr Dave Brown
25 Charlton Road
Crownhill
Plymouth
Devon
PL6 5EG

BUFFET

Please ensure you let me know of any special dietary requests when making
your payment and also check that I have indicated this in the 'team' section
at the end of this update as this is the 'master sheet' that I work from.
Errors do occur!

CHARITY AUCTION ITEMS (IN NEXT UPDATE).

Bids may be made prior to the event so contact Dave with your bid. I also
hope to be able to have a web page available to show the Charity Auction
items. Watch this space!

Item #1 -

Item #2 -

Item #3 -

CHARITY RAFFLE

Please consider donating a prize for the raffle this season!

Raffle tickets are now on sale and may be purchased prior to the event for
those not being able to attend. For payment methods see COST earlier in this
email. If you purchase tickets before the date the numbers will be mailed to
you either by 'snail mail' or electronically and your name will be written
on the back of those tickets going into the draw barrel. Please ensure you
give a contact telephone number if not attending when purchasing your
tickets so we can call you regarding your prize should you be a 'lucky
winner'.

Raffle Tickets are priced at £1.00 each.

CHARITY RAFFLE PRIZES (MORE TO FOLLOW)

Samsung Black 1GB Digital Audio Player (Kindly donated by Dave and Pam
Brown)

Pusser's Rum 'Earthenware' Mini Decanter with 5cl of 47.74% abv Pusser's Rum
(Kindly donated by Dave and Pam Brown)

Pusser's Rum 'Earthenware' Pocket Hip Flask with 20cl of 47.75% abv Pusser's
Rum (Kindly donated by the South West & M5 Branch of the Supporters Club)

Best of British - Selection of fine bottled ales & a flagon of 'Cloudy
Scrumpy' Cider (Kindly donated by Karen Smith)

Family Ice Skating Pass (Admits 4 and includes skate hire) at the National
Ice Centre Nottingham (Kindly donated by National Ice Centre)
www.national-ice-centre.com

PROPOSED SEQUENCE OF EVENTS FOR THE EVENING.

5.00pm to 6.00pm – Gather, mingle, settle in & raffle ticket sales.

On completion - Welcome & Toast to 'Absent Friends & Loved Ones'

Presentations?

Quiz Round One

Buffet & Raffle Ticket sales

Quiz Round Two

Raffle Ticket Sales

Charity Auction (Part One) (Auctioneer Cherry Goodson)

Quiz Round Three

Final raffle ticket sales

Charity Auction (Part Two) (Auctioneer Cherry Goodson)

Quiz Round Four (final 'hard' 'ish' round)

Prize giving.

Charity Raffle Draw

QUIZ PRIZES

FIRST PLACE

"The Ketil" Trophy & Winners Certificates & Cash Prize of £?????????

RUNNERS UP

"The Ian Copping" Trophy (Kindly donated by Cherry Goodson) & Cash Prize of
£????????

WOODEN SPOONIES!

Yes you've guessed it.............the Wooden Spoons & 6 x 25cl Bottles of
Wine!

TEAMS!

To Follow

APOLOGIES!

Note 1: *** indicates paid

Note 2: (v) indicates Vegetarian Option Required

Regards

Dave - Plymouth Red (Quiz Master!)

Been awesome! What i find frustrating is that it is effectively the
same players, yet a fill in manager and now a new manager.

So is it safe to say that basically the players had no time for
Calderwood and just wanted him gone ?

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> Subject: [NFSDU] Let the good times roll!
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> Received: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 8:57 AM
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It has been great since new year.  Fantastic.

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Subject: [NFSDU] Let the good times roll!
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Received: Wednesday, 28 January, 2009, 8:57 AM






Good win this morning especially given a few of the teams below us also picked
up wins - only 12 points of the play-offs!
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Good win this morning especially given a few of the teams below us also picked
up wins - only 12 points of the play-offs!
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one)

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Here's a trailer for the new film about Cloughies 44 days at Leeds due
to be released in the UK on 27th March

http://www.thespoiler.co.uk/index.php/2009/01/26/trailer-the-new-brian-c
lough-film-the-damned-united

Regards

Julian



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Looking good for a double over the Manchester teams this season.
 
Will be great to get them to our place for a match up to see how we'll go in
the Premier league in a couple of years time!!
 
News of the World snip - Former Nottingham Forest manager Colin Calderwood is
hot favourite to take charge of the Faroe Islands  - wow - they're ranked even
lower than the All Whites!
 
Kiwi-red
(the other one

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CLassic..... sometimes things happen, this one turned out to be a
blessing in disguise :)

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> P.B.O.C.S.W.B. & P.S.W.O.B.C. (SaM)
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> Remember: Amateurs built the Ark but Professionals built the
Titanic!
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> www.gibbonproject.org
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He wanted to go to a bigger club huh!!

Bless him (Not)

http://news.myjoyonline.com/sports/200901/25218.asp


Dave Plymouth Red

P.B.O.C.S.W.B. & P.S.W.O.B.C. (SaM)

Remember: Amateurs built the Ark but Professionals built the Titanic!

www.gibbonproject.org

Before printing, think about ENVIRONMENTAL responsibility

From a distance it might look as though not much has changed. Chambers restored
at right back, Wilson out of position at left back, Perch and not Cohen in
centre midfield. However, Davies was able to put a team together capable of
getting the job done in a very effective fashion. It was a real team effort with
everyone making an impression on the game with no obvious weak links.

Davies stood by the majority of the starting XI from Charlton with the exception
of the injured Thornhill who was replaced by Wilson. However, this allowed Cohen
back into left midfield with Wilson behind him and we looked much better for it.

Whilst the first half was nothing to get excited about, we got better throughout
the second half and started to show some signs that we’re capable of getting
out of this mess. We pressed Plymouth for the whole game and never sat back and
let them settle. Too often this season, we have been content to watch the
opposition play and never force them into mistakes. On this evidence, I don’t
think that this will be the case under Davies.

Earnshaw’s smart finish from McGugan’s free kick opened the scoring and
Tyson’s pull back for Anderson’s deflected drive sealed the game. Plymouth
came back into the game through the powerful Fallon but were unable to finish
any of the chances that came their way. The closest they came to scoring was one
effort that bounced off the underside of the bar and away to safety.

Smith didn’t have too much to do due to the impressive performances in front
of him. Looked a little unsure with a couple of crosses and got away with the
header off the bar.

Chambers and Wilson did what was required and justified their selections even
though there are obvious reservations about them playing there in the long term.

MOTM Morgan continues to impress with every game that passes. Plymouth had one
tactic to find Fallon for all areas and scrap for the pieces and Wes was equal
to almost everything that came his way. Even found time for a couple of surging
runs from our own half.

On the few occasions that Plymouth found a way past Morgan, Breckin was there to
take control. Since his re-introduction to the side he’s formed an impressive
defensive barrier and made a mockery of the previous decision to transfer list
him. Much more controlled in possession and this enabled us to catch them on the
break.

I’m no fan of Perch in midfield but he did everything that could be asked of
him, protecting the back four and letting McGugan drive the team forward. Won a
few tackles when required and used the ball much better then recently. He is
capable of becoming of first team regular but needs to repeat this type of
performance weekly rather than monthly.

McGugan struggled in the first half but was much improved in the second. His
driving breaks from midfield were one of the main features of our good spells.
The one player capable of producing those rare moments of quality in a tight
game as shown with Earnshaw’s chances in the first half.

Cohen was able to contribute to the game much more from his midfield position
and was back to his usual best. As with McGugan, Anderson struggled to
contribute in the first half but looked much better in the second with the team
looking dangerous on the break.

Earnshaw is starting to find the sharpness he displayed at the start of the
season and getting the goals as a result. Great finish for the opener, unlucky
with a low effort just before half time and caused problems throughout. Tyson
didn’t score but did enough to justify his continued selection ahead of Garner
with another threatening ninety minutes.

A team built around a solid defence capable of clinically taking chances at the
other end won’t go far wrong. The past few weeks have shown that we we’re
getting close to achieving this.










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That is all I got too.

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From: Antony Wardle <Antony.Wardle@...>
Subject: RE: [NFSDU] Highlights, take 2 MP4 format
To: "nfsdu@yahoogroups.com" <nfsdu@yahoogroups.com>
Received: Monday, 19 January, 2009, 9:08 PM






Well I can see it now
but there didn't seem to be any goals, rather
a whole lot of people with D*rby masks
and a local derby about to kick off

kiwi-red
(the first one)

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups. com] On Behalf Of
mikeyoz_1970
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 8:33 PM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups. com
Subject: [NFSDU] Highlights, take 2 MP4 format

Uploaded the file again this time in MP4 format...... worked I my
wifes' computer this time, so hopefully is ok.

http://www.pegasuss oftware.com. au/media/ reds_argyle. mp4

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Well I can see it now
but there didn't seem to be any goals, rather
a whole lot of people with D*rby masks
and a local derby about to kick off



kiwi-red
(the first one)

From: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com [mailto:nfsdu@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of
mikeyoz_1970
Sent: Monday, 19 January 2009 8:33 PM
To: nfsdu@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [NFSDU] Highlights, take 2 MP4 format


Uploaded the file again this time in MP4 format...... worked I my
wifes' computer this time, so hopefully is ok.

http://www.pegasussoftware.com.au/media/reds_argyle.mp4



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Uploaded the file again this time in MP4 format...... worked I my
wifes' computer this time, so hopefully is ok.

http://www.pegasussoftware.com.au/media/reds_argyle.mp4