Cheers, a toast and applause!!! WOOHOO!

Skyla

--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
<elsietee@...> wrote:
>
> Sinatra got his 1000 miles with Crysta at Rides of March
> yesterday!
>
> Don't know if this list strips out photos, but
> if not, here's one of them trotting along during
> the ride:
>
> He is the coolest little horse!
>
>
>
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
> Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
> elsietee AT foothill DOT net
> Repotted english person in the Sierra foothills, California
> * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
* *
>

Sinatra got his 1000 miles with Crysta at Rides of March
yesterday!

Don't know if this list strips out photos, but
if not, here's one of them trotting along during
the ride:

He is the coolest little horse!



* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
elsietee AT foothill DOT net
Repotted english person in the Sierra foothills, California
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

You guys MUST be motivating others besides me, keep it up! THIS is what
makes us (e-riders) such a great bunch-support.! The love of the
journey has not been something I have "thought" about, but I DO LOVE
that almost more then the rides themselves. Some riders don't like to
just "ride", they either are on a mission to condition or find it a
waste of time...sad. To be on/with my horse IS the ultimate pleasure
for me, ride or no ride. Getting to spend ALL DAY on a 100 with my dear
pony is just almost more then this heart can handle, what more can I
ask!?! :o)

Skyla

Think of it this way Skyla, it has helped me when facing my three

100's (first-completed, Tevis-pulled, and then an early spring one-

completed). I was never 100% sure my horse was "ready". But we are

responsible owners who care first about our horse's, not the ride.

So you ride conseratively, well within the limits you KNOW about

your horse already.

Apologies that this post got more long-winded, than
I intended, but it's about the philosophy of going
into 100s.

When I was getting ready for Tevis a few years ago
(didn't even manage to get the horse to the start
line, but that's another story), I tried to stay
level about it despite being completely hyper from
the moment I signed up.

When I was ambiguous about our likelihood of completion,
many people took that to mean that I didn't think we would
finish and advised me to not be so defeatist about it.
Like Paul said - his first *completion* not *attempt*
will be at Biltmore.

But for me, it wasn't so much that I didn't think we'd
finish, so much as wanting to keep my head under control
by being realistic about the outcome. I wanted to stay
clear-headed about being able to stop if it was necessary
and being "OK" with that decision. I wanted to be "OK"
if we were pulled and not have my whole focus be on
*finishing*.

I think it was Julie Suhr who said something about "if
you don't enjoy the journey to get to the rides, you
shouldn't be doing endurance" (she was talking about
conditioning before you even get to a ride).

Same applies with 100s in my mind. Yes, finishing is
the ultimate goal, but in the long run, it should be
about the journey getting there, with a completion
being the icing on the cake. If you get pulled at
75 miles, you still had the fun of conditioning to
get to the start line (I had a *blast* for the first
five months, the year I signed up for Tevis), and the
satisfaction and feeling of accomplishment of riding
the 75 miles in such a way that you put yourself in a
position to be able to finish, even if it didn't
actually work out that way.

As endurance riders, we're trained to just keep going -
that's what we do, *continue* no matter how hard it may
seem. So sometimes stopping is a big hurdle to overcome.

This last week was the Iditarod Sled dog race - kind of
like doing Tevis every day for ten-plus days in a row,
in -40 degrees. The Julie Suhr of mushing, Susan Butcher,
who dominated the sport in the 80s, died of leukemia late
last year. Reading the tributes to her, and reading about
the mushers getting out there and *doing it* reminded me
that that's what it's about - nothing in life is a given,
and putting things off until you are "ready" might mean
that for whatever reason, you might run out of time, so
it's important to just get on with it. :)

So Skyla, I guess my advice to you, is to try and tilt
your philosophy a little - enjoy the journey and see
where it leads.

* * *

Off to shower and pack the pone into the trailer for
Rides of March tomorrow. This will be our first "proper"
50 since Roo came to live here last September, so I'm
apprehensive, but looking forward to the "journey".

Crysta and Sinatra are going to ride with us, and try
and pace us on how to do a 6 mph completion without
going fast. I'm apprehensive about that too - will it
be too fast for (slow-poke) us? (my usual position at
rides is third from last <g>). We'll see.


* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
elsietee AT foothill DOT net
Repotted english person in the Sierra foothills, California
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

Think of it this way Skyla, it has helped me when facing my three
100's (first-completed, Tevis-pulled, and then an early spring one-
completed).  I was never 100% sure my horse was "ready".  But we are
responsible owners who care first about our horse's, not the ride.
So you ride conseratively, well within the limits you KNOW about
your horse already.  And if something isn't 100% A-OK, then you
pull.  And so what?  It's just a pull.  Although you want to have
the mindset of you are going to do your best to finish the ride,
know in your heart that you also will do the right thing and just
quit (or slow down, or stay extra at a hold, etc) if for any reason
it becomes too much for you or your mount to handle that day.  I
think there are a lot of riders who get too caught up in THAT RIDE.
It's not a shame to do the best by your horse.

~ Crysta

--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, "Skyla Stewart" <temposmom@...>
wrote:
>
> It is the uncertainty of "being ready", the "ride" itself isn't
the
> fear. I need to just STOP thinking about the whole thing, and look
at
> it as a longer ride..."get over it" so to speak. :oP  People
always
> ask "how do you know when you/horse are ready for a 100?", guess
when
> you make plans to DO IT?!?!  A dear friend just lectured me but
good,
> kind of showed in black and white the reasons for me NOT to be
acting
> so mushy. :oP  I just REALLLLLLY want to complete this dang
mileage, it
> brings more passion then the other mileages. We'll just keep going
> forward and chins up! Thanks for the input from all!
>
> Skyla
>
> --- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, terre <tobytrot@> wrote:
> >
> > It's been said before, but I'll say it again:  "One loop at a
> > time!"  Your issues are purely psychological--you are
justifiably
> > intimidated by the challenge of riding 100 miles, even though
you
> > HAVE successfully done it in the past, and therefore KNOW you
can do
> > it.  SO--stop thinking about "100 miles" and concentrate on the
> > concept of "loops"  (many, many loops!) ridden one at a time,
with
> > the goal of riding each loop "perfectly"--at your optimal speed,
> > maintaining EDPPMF, etc---pretty much the same way you do 50s.
> >
> > Thinking about "100 miles" is bothering you--so stop thinking
about
> > it!  You can DO it!
> >
> > terre
> >
>

It is the uncertainty of "being ready", the "ride" itself isn't the
fear. I need to just STOP thinking about the whole thing, and look at
it as a longer ride..."get over it" so to speak. :oP  People always
ask "how do you know when you/horse are ready for a 100?", guess when
you make plans to DO IT?!?!  A dear friend just lectured me but good,
kind of showed in black and white the reasons for me NOT to be acting
so mushy. :oP  I just REALLLLLLY want to complete this dang mileage, it
brings more passion then the other mileages. We'll just keep going
forward and chins up! Thanks for the input from all!

Skyla

--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, terre <tobytrot@...> wrote:
>
> It's been said before, but I'll say it again:  "One loop at a
> time!"  Your issues are purely psychological--you are justifiably
> intimidated by the challenge of riding 100 miles, even though you
> HAVE successfully done it in the past, and therefore KNOW you can do
> it.  SO--stop thinking about "100 miles" and concentrate on the
> concept of "loops"  (many, many loops!) ridden one at a time, with
> the goal of riding each loop "perfectly"--at your optimal speed,
> maintaining EDPPMF, etc---pretty much the same way you do 50s.
>
> Thinking about "100 miles" is bothering you--so stop thinking about
> it!  You can DO it!
>
> terre
>

It's been said before, but I'll say it again:  "One loop at a
time!"  Your issues are purely psychological--you are justifiably
intimidated by the challenge of riding 100 miles, even though you
HAVE successfully done it in the past, and therefore KNOW you can do
it.  SO--stop thinking about "100 miles" and concentrate on the
concept of "loops"  (many, many loops!) ridden one at a time, with
the goal of riding each loop "perfectly"--at your optimal speed,
maintaining EDPPMF, etc---pretty much the same way you do 50s.

Thinking about "100 miles" is bothering you--so stop thinking about
it!  You can DO it!

terre

----- Original Message -----

From: psidio422

To: new100milers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2007 10:07 AM

Subject: [new100milers] Re: 100 mile hurdle

RE:"WHY do I feel so "lost" in what to do, how to train, because I
now am
> looking at a 100 again?"

Well you might want to consider this. There are about 300,000,000
people in this country. Of those , maybe 15,000,000 have ever ridden
a horse. Of those 15 million folks, maybe 2 million have ever had
long term exposure to horses and ridden regularly. Of those 2,000,000
riders, maybe 30,000 have ever done an LD or Endurance ride. Of those
30,000 maybe 2,000 have ever completed a 100 mile endurance ride?
(note that all numbers are for example only and have been pulled out
of thin air)

So there are probably more people here in the USA who have played
Major league baseball, or NFL football than have completed 100 mile
rides. 100 mile riders are in the same number catagory as people who
have owned a race horse that has run in a Triple Crown thoroughbred
race, or competed in the Olympics. Like Angie said , "The few, the
proud,.... the ones with tired butts:)". (I think that's what she
said?)

This may be why you are feeling a lack of sure knowledge or direction
in training or feeling lost. Somebody took down the trail ribbons,
or they were pretty far apart to begin with. The experienced riders
can offer information on how they have done it, but that is what has
worked for them on their horses. It may or may not work for you.

It's like mountain climbers and Mt Everest. Lots of people climb
Pikes Peak, but very few get to that 29,000 foot mark on Everest.
Even experienced climbers don't get to the summit every climb.
Sometimes stuff just happens. But even the most experienced climber
will get butterflies at the base of a Mt Everest. A pro athelete will
get nervous before the Super Bowl, or World Series. We can get a
little antsie before a 100 mile ride. You've completed two 100
milers. That puts you way ahead of the curve.

My first 100 attempt (no not attempt, first 100 completion), is
going to be at Biltmore. I worried over and over about training
regimes and ride schedules until I just gave up and decided to relax
and enjoy it. That is what it is about. Take care of the horse and
yourself, enjoy the ride.

Paul N. Sidio
and Piper
Spokane MO

--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, "Skyla Stewart" <temposmom@...>
wrote:
>
> How does one get over the "mental hurdle" of the 100 mile
challenge?
> I am hoping to get one more chance this May (again) to try for our
> 2nd 100 mile completion. I've completed 2 in my life out of 4
> attempts...ugh. Tempo completed 1 and I rider optioned last year at
> 70 miles-sore back on horse though vets said he was good to go I
> didn't think so and had all the fun I wanted for that day
anyway. :oP
>
> I have NO qualms about getting ready for a 75, but find myself yet
> again feeling very small and uncertain as I plan for a 100 in 2+
> months. We have two 50's each three weeks apart, the last three
weeks
> before the 100. Seems to me this should be perfect, all things
going
> well of course.
>
> WHY do I feel so "lost" in what to do, how to train, because I now
am
> looking at a 100 again? I KNOW the 100 IS a different beast, I am
not
> particularly concerned about caring for myself, or my horse during
> the ride as that is pretty well matter of fact. I have no fears
> of "night riding", I have no fears of pacing or self control, or
> riding alone. I will have crew, so will get a chance to rest myself
> too. But for SOME dang reason I am feeling VERY insecure
> on "training" to set us up for a successful ride. I don't want to
> under or over train, I want him PREPARED. THIS year I WILL ride my
> own ride-lesson LEARNED there. My horse is very well seasoned 2600
> miles 15 years old, although we did have a couple injuries last
year
> that are long gone now. I have over 6000 miles myself with many 75-
80
> mile rides. So WHY am I now feeling so lost? Does one ever get OVER
> the 100 mile nerves?
>
> Also one question: Tempo during a ride *usually* only likes plain
> grains (oats) and hay, he normally will not eat any specialty food,
> beetpulp, or fruits. Although sometimes he can surprise me...VERY
> frustrating! Is there a reason why a horse turns to "plain" feeds
> during stress? How many wetted oats can he be allowed safely during
> the course of the day? Many times he only wants hay. He does fine,
> but for "me" it is very frustrating, and this horse does NOT like
> sweet feed as a rule. Any ideas? I'm sure he will do fine on hay,
but
> I'm not so sure "I" will do fine seeing him eat only hay. :o(
Should
> I prepare his system with oats a couple weeks in advance at a
couple
> lbs a day? I usually feed 1/2 lb a day of plain oats with his
normal
> feed the week before a ride, but I am wondering if for a 100 miles
IF
> the only food (hay aside) he wants is oats maybe I should be
feeding
> more earlier before the ride? Argh.... He gets Ultium and a all-in-
> one pellet he loves as a normal hard feed.
>
> I would LOVE suggestions/input from riders. I'm hoping for a 14
hour
> give or take ride(all things depending), so not fast, not slow. I
> feel like a first time rider...sigh. My 100's are batting 50% which
> isn't a great confidence maker either.
>
> Skyla
>

>>>>So far every 100 I've tried, I've been pulled at or before the 50
mile mark,  So the "failures" are not due to the extra milage or lack
of preparation.

May not be the case with you...but I believe many people overtrain
for the 100, which could explain why you get pulled before 50 on the
100 but can do 50's when training for them. I try to think of 100's
for the horse as more like "hiking" than "running a marathon". In the
park this past weekend I ran into a bunch of boyscouts on an 11 mile
hike. I'll bet very few of them walk over a mile or two at a time,
ever...but they'll make it 11 if they drink something. They may be
sore, but they probably made it. If some kid had trained like crazy
for that hike he might have pulled something and missed the whole
event. If you keep the speed down, and keep the horse fed & watered,
he can go on and on pretty comfortably...at least that's my
experience so far... but I've competed on 2 good horses. I'll find
out if this one's "good" soon. If yesterday's workout was any
indication...he sure *thinks* he's Kaboot now. :-)

Angie

RE:"WHY do I feel so "lost" in what to do, how to train, because I
now am
> looking at a 100 again?"

Well you might want to consider this. There are about 300,000,000
people in this country. Of those , maybe 15,000,000 have ever ridden
a horse. Of those 15 million folks, maybe 2 million have ever had
long term exposure to horses and ridden regularly. Of those 2,000,000
riders, maybe 30,000 have ever done an LD or Endurance ride. Of those
30,000 maybe 2,000 have ever completed a 100 mile endurance ride?
(note that all numbers are for example only and have been pulled out
of thin air)

So there are probably more people  here in the USA who have played
Major league baseball, or NFL football than have completed 100 mile
rides.  100 mile riders are in the same number catagory as people who
have owned a race horse that has run in a Triple Crown thoroughbred
race, or competed in the Olympics. Like Angie said , "The few, the
proud,.... the ones with tired butts:)". (I think that's what she
said?)

This may be why you are feeling a lack of sure knowledge or direction
in training or feeling lost. Somebody took  down the trail ribbons,
or they were pretty far apart to begin with. The experienced riders
can offer information on how they have done it, but that is what has
worked for them on their horses. It may or may not work for you.

It's like mountain climbers and Mt Everest. Lots of people climb
Pikes Peak, but very few get to that 29,000 foot mark on Everest.
Even experienced climbers don't get to the summit every climb.
Sometimes stuff just happens. But even the most experienced climber
will get butterflies at the base of a Mt Everest. A pro athelete will
get nervous before the Super Bowl, or World Series. We can get a
little antsie before a 100 mile ride. You've completed two 100
milers. That puts you way ahead of the curve.

My first 100 attempt (no not attempt,  first 100 completion), is
going to be at Biltmore. I worried over and over about training
regimes and ride schedules until I just gave up and decided to relax
and enjoy it. That is what it is about. Take care of the horse and
yourself, enjoy the ride.

Paul N. Sidio
and Piper
Spokane MO




--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, "Skyla Stewart" <temposmom@...>
wrote:
>
> How does one get over the "mental hurdle" of the 100 mile
challenge?
> I am hoping to get one more chance this May (again) to try for our
> 2nd 100 mile completion. I've completed 2 in my life out of 4
> attempts...ugh. Tempo completed 1 and I rider optioned last year at
> 70 miles-sore back on horse though vets said he was good to go I
> didn't think so and had all the fun I wanted for that day
anyway. :oP
>
> I have NO qualms about getting ready for a 75, but find myself yet
> again feeling very small and uncertain as I plan for a 100 in 2+
> months. We have two 50's each three weeks apart, the last three
weeks
> before the 100. Seems to me this should be perfect, all things
going
> well of course.
>
> WHY do I feel so "lost" in what to do, how to train, because I now
am
> looking at a 100 again? I KNOW the 100 IS a different beast, I am
not
> particularly concerned about caring for myself, or my horse during
> the ride as that is pretty well matter of fact. I have no fears
> of "night riding", I have no fears of pacing or self control, or
> riding alone. I will have crew, so will get a chance to rest myself
> too. But for SOME dang reason I am feeling VERY insecure
> on "training" to set us up for a successful ride. I don't want to
> under or over train, I want him PREPARED. THIS year I WILL ride my
> own ride-lesson LEARNED there. My horse is very well seasoned 2600
> miles 15 years old, although we did have a couple injuries last
year
> that are long gone now. I have over 6000 miles myself with many 75-
80
> mile rides. So WHY am I now feeling so lost? Does one ever get OVER
> the 100 mile nerves?
>
> Also one question: Tempo during a ride *usually* only likes plain
> grains (oats) and hay, he normally will not eat any specialty food,
> beetpulp, or fruits. Although sometimes he can surprise me...VERY
> frustrating! Is there a reason why a horse turns to "plain" feeds
> during stress? How many wetted oats can he be allowed safely during
> the course of the day? Many times he only wants hay. He does fine,
> but for "me" it is very frustrating, and this horse does NOT like
> sweet feed as a rule. Any ideas? I'm sure he will do fine on hay,
but
> I'm not so sure "I" will do fine seeing him eat only hay. :o(
Should
> I prepare his system with oats a couple weeks in advance at a
couple
> lbs a day? I usually feed 1/2 lb a day of plain oats with his
normal
> feed the week before a ride, but I am wondering if for a 100 miles
IF
> the only food (hay aside) he wants is oats maybe I should be
feeding
> more earlier before the ride? Argh.... He gets Ultium and a all-in-
> one pellet he loves as a normal hard feed.
>
> I would LOVE suggestions/input from riders. I'm hoping for a 14
hour
> give or take ride(all things depending), so not fast, not slow. I
> feel like a first time rider...sigh. My 100's are batting 50% which
> isn't a great confidence maker either.
>
> Skyla
>

It is like the difference between going to the local park or going to
Europe for a vacation! You REALLY want to go to Europe and you REALLY
don't want to get part way there and have your plane crash. :oP  Your
right, it does get the blood pumping, a little like a child at
Christmas. LOL

Skyla

--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, rides2far@... wrote:
>
>
>
>  But for SOME dang reason I am feeling VERY insecure
> > on "training" to set us up for a successful ride. I don't want to
> > under or over train, I want him PREPARED. THIS year I WILL ride
my
> > own ride-lesson LEARNED there. My horse is very well seasoned
2600
> > miles 15 years old, although we did have a couple injuries last
year
>
> Skyla,
>
> Right now I am training a 12 year old horse with 350 miles of 50's
in the
> last year for his first 100 in May. All I know to do is keep doing
what
> I'm doing. I train much the same as for a 50 and try to keep him
sound. A
> 100 always scares me. It's a big deal and I'm intimidated by
it...that's
> the beauty of it. A 50 is just a 50 now. Unless something goes
wrong, I
> can probably do it. But when I enter a 100 I *know* I'm facing a
> challenge and that's what gets the blood pumping. :-))
> 50% completion rate isn't much below the average...and with that
small of
> a sample one more completion would jump you way up. Better to have
tried
> and failed than be one of these people who do the same thing (50's,
LD's
> whatever) over and over and over and never test themselves. Enjoy
that
> tightness in the chest...it means you're one of the few...the
proud. >g<
>
> Angie
>

But for SOME dang reason I am feeling VERY insecure
> on "training" to set us up for a successful ride. I don't want to
> under or over train, I want him PREPARED. THIS year I WILL ride my
> own ride-lesson LEARNED there. My horse is very well seasoned 2600
> miles 15 years old, although we did have a couple injuries last year

Skyla,

Right now I am training a 12 year old horse with 350 miles of 50's in the
last year for his first 100 in May. All I know to do is keep doing what
I'm doing. I train much the same as for a 50 and try to keep him sound. A
100 always scares me. It's a big deal and I'm intimidated by it...that's
the beauty of it. A 50 is just a 50 now. Unless something goes wrong, I
can probably do it. But when I enter a 100 I *know* I'm facing a
challenge and that's what gets the blood pumping. :-))
50% completion rate isn't much below the average...and with that small of
a sample one more completion would jump you way up. Better to have tried
and failed than be one of these people who do the same thing (50's, LD's
whatever) over and over and over and never test themselves. Enjoy that
tightness in the chest...it means you're one of the few...the proud. >g<

Angie

I do WANT to, which is part of the problem, if it was a "need" then I
wouldn't bother. :oP  Just seems so silly to turn to mush is all.

Skyla


--- In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, Tx Trigger <txtrigger@...> wrote:
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Skyla Stewart
> How does one get over the "mental hurdle" of the 100 mile
challenge? <<<
>
> I have little experiance, but the first thing I think is, do you
really WANT
> to ride a 100, or feel you "need" to for some reason. I think you
have to
> want to...
>
> Jonni
>

----- Original Message -----
From: Skyla Stewart
How does one get over the "mental hurdle" of the 100 mile challenge? <<<

I have little experiance, but the first thing I think is, do you really WANT
to ride a 100, or feel you "need" to for some reason. I think you have to
want to...

Jonni

How does one get over the "mental hurdle" of the 100 mile challenge?
I am hoping to get one more chance this May (again) to try for our
2nd 100 mile completion. I've completed 2 in my life out of 4
attempts...ugh. Tempo completed 1 and I rider optioned last year at
70 miles-sore back on horse though vets said he was good to go I
didn't think so and had all the fun I wanted for that day anyway. :oP

I have NO qualms about getting ready for a 75, but find myself yet
again feeling very small and uncertain as I plan for a 100 in 2+
months. We have two 50's each three weeks apart, the last three weeks
before the 100. Seems to me this should be perfect, all things going
well of course.

WHY do I feel so "lost" in what to do, how to train, because I now am
looking at a 100 again? I KNOW the 100 IS a different beast, I am not
particularly concerned about caring for myself, or my horse during
the ride as that is pretty well matter of fact. I have no fears
of "night riding", I have no fears of pacing or self control, or
riding alone. I will have crew, so will get a chance to rest myself
too. But for SOME dang reason I am feeling VERY insecure
on "training" to set us up for a successful ride. I don't want to
under or over train, I want him PREPARED. THIS year I WILL ride my
own ride-lesson LEARNED there. My horse is very well seasoned 2600
miles 15 years old, although we did have a couple injuries last year
that are long gone now. I have over 6000 miles myself with many 75-80
mile rides. So WHY am I now feeling so lost? Does one ever get OVER
the 100 mile nerves?

Also one question: Tempo during a ride *usually* only likes plain
grains (oats) and hay, he normally will not eat any specialty food,
beetpulp, or fruits. Although sometimes he can surprise me...VERY
frustrating! Is there a reason why a horse turns to "plain" feeds
during stress? How many wetted oats can he be allowed safely during
the course of the day? Many times he only wants hay. He does fine,
but for "me" it is very frustrating, and this horse does NOT like
sweet feed as a rule. Any ideas? I'm sure he will do fine on hay, but
I'm not so sure "I" will do fine seeing him eat only hay. :o(  Should
I prepare his system with oats a couple weeks in advance at a couple
lbs a day? I usually feed 1/2 lb a day of plain oats with his normal
feed the week before a ride, but I am wondering if for a 100 miles IF
the only food (hay aside) he wants is oats maybe I should be feeding
more earlier before the ride? Argh.... He gets Ultium and a all-in-
one pellet he loves as a normal hard feed.

I would LOVE suggestions/input from riders. I'm hoping for a 14 hour
give or take ride(all things depending), so not fast, not slow. I
feel like a first time rider...sigh. My 100's are batting 50% which
isn't a great confidence maker either.

Skyla

It has been coming to our attention that many horse owners are being
led to believe that the microchips that are for the NAIS ID system can
also be used to find lost or stolen horses. Because of this, many horse
owners feel that the NAIS is a "good thing". This is not true and needs
to be corrected. The USDA has made a big point in their documents and
statements that the NAIS database is to be kept PRIVATE and only used
for "disease outbreaks". Those chips/tags/information are not to be
used for any other purposes. Now, personally, knowing how the
government works, I think they *will* use it for whatever *they* want
to (and they already have), but it will be how the *government* wants
to use the chips/tags/info, not how the horse owner wants to use it for
personal things.

Since we've been hearing this for months, I thought I better speak up
and clear up this misinformation. I don't know how this idea got
started, but it's been going around for a long time.

Anita in Arkansas - breeder of many fine endurance Morabs
http://arkansasanimalproducers.8k.com
http://nonais.org  NO TO THE NAIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
 

An exciting new event is planned this year that might be of interest to many of you, the first Western States Two-Day Educational Ride. At a slower pace and with experienced guides, this ride is open to anyone with a horse fit to travel 30-35 miles in one day, and it will cover the trail from Robinson Flat to Auburn. Riders will leave in groups from Robinson Flat and travel to Foresthill on the first day, June 30th. After camping out, they will depart the next day, July 1st, for Auburn. Current word has it that the river will be lowered that day for safe crossing. To add to the fun there will be a catered barbecue, various speakers, and other activities to make this weekend entertaining and memorable.
The traditional 10th annual Fun Ride will be held May 19th, and the big event, of course, will be on July 28th. Three different organized opportunities are offered for anyone who wishes to understand what the Tevis magic is all about.

Full information and entry forms are available on the Tevis web site at :
www.teviscup.net <http://www.teviscup.net>

"The fun part is when we get all four seasons on the same day."

LOL - Paul is not kidding about that! When I first moved to Missouri I
was astonished at how quickly the weather could change. I'll never
forget one March day when I was taking a green three year old on his
very first trail ride - the day began with frost, progressed to
freezing rain, passed through some gale-force winds, and ended up by
being somewhere in the upper 60s by early afternoon!

The other good thing about the central region is that you can find a
trail to suit almost any terrain preference - except maybe mountains.
We have forest trails, rocky trails, river bottom trails, flatland
trails, hilly trails, and lakefront trails. No oceanfront trails - but
then, you can always pretend Lake Michigan is an ocean! :)

Jen - off to make sure my fences, sheds, and trees are all still
standing after 60-80 mph winds tore through last night - yikes!

--
Lucy,

"Lucy reads the paragraph about 90s with high humidity."  Now that is
just not fair to the other regions including SE. It was August, and I
believe even Auburn California gets a little warm that time of year.
We here in the Central Region ride in all four seasons so we get to
learn to appreciate the special atributes of each time of year. The
fun part is when we get all four seasons on the same day. Plus most
of us in the Central, MW, and Se Regions get rainfall year round.

Now you may not be the type of person who appreciates the all over
warm feeling you get from a 90 degree humid Georgia day. You should
realize that a lot of people spend big bucks going to spas to get
that much heat and humidity. But if that is not your favoritie
environment, it's ok. Different courses for different horses..We
still have a lot more to offer you in the Central Region. For
instance, if you were to go down to the Golden Gate bridge near San
Franciso on a foggy windy day there, and pour a few gallons of cold
water on yourself until your clothes are soaked clear through to your
skin, and then have somebody strap you on top of a car while they are
driving about 50 miles per hour... Well if you enjoy that feeling, we
have some delightful spring rides you will love. See how we cater to
any and all possible climate desires of the rider?

I did Top of The Rock last year in Indiana.(MW Region) It had rained
a couple of days earlier but the Ride Managers assured us at the
meeting and as we headed out on trail that morning that the rain was
over and long gone. I noticed the moisture in the air seemed heavy,
but the local riders assured me it was just mist and the night dew on
the trees. It "misted" 2 1/2 inches of water on us that day.

See you missed the mist by not being there. No telling how many
exciting weather events you will continue to miss by just riding in
your home region. I plan to ride in 4 or 5 regions this year, 'cause
someplace, somewhere there will be a ride on a nice clear day with
gentle breezes, comfortable temps and well marked trails. I hope to
be there that day.

Hopefully this inspires you to venture out into the world:) You need
to come to the South and the Ozarks to learn how real Americans
sound:)

(I mailed my Biltmore 100 entry today.. gulp)

Paul N. (I mailed my Biltmore 100 entry today.. gulp)
Sidio
Spokane MO

  In new100milers@yahoogroups.com, Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
<elsietee@...> wrote:
>
> Angie:
> >Wow, I was worried about how slow the riders were trotting in the
trail
> >footage of that.
>
> <snort> yes... I wouldn't be caught dead trotting
> that slowly... (?? <g>)
>
> >  It was in Central Georgia in August and so hot it was
> >just oppressive. I think it was upper 90's with really
> >high humidity that day.
>
> then she says:
>
> >....it makes it tempting to trade out ride entries
> >and get friends to do rides in other regions.
>
>
> Lucy reads the paragraph about 90s with high humidity.
>
> Lucy reads the paragraph about riding in other regions.
>
> Lucy inspects her split-ends and works hard at formulating
> a good excuse as to why she "won't be able to attend that
> ride in Georgia this year, sorry".
>
>
> >You could see everybody was extremely serious about the cooling. I
> >rode that ride this year and though they said the temp and
humidity were
> >*technically* the same as the year before (when I filmed) that it
wasn't
> >nearly as bad. A breeze made all the difference.
>
> the worst I've ridden in here is when it's really
> hot and dry, and you can feel the skin on your face
> shrivelling up and getting tighter and tighter. It's
> like standing with your face hovering over the oven
> when you open the door.
>
> >I don't use the footage of the people who walk out. >g<
>
> So what you're saying is, you could make a "fast video"
> and a "slow video", depending on who you used.
>
> >For instance, you guys
> >can't imagine all these little loops coming in and out of the same
camp.
>
> I can imagine it, but I'm too darn spoilt to want to
> do it. I don't like riding the same trail in the same
> *month* if I can possibly help it.
>
> But as you say, it focuses you differently. As Jonni
> said, you can get sidetracked admiring the views and
> not get moving, or you can be going down the trail,
> eyes blurred from straining to look for those markers
> at speed.
>
> Chris seemed to think that if I ever got that "Elite
> Horse" I'd ride differently, but I think I'm too lazy
> to do it. I enjoy spotting mice n' snakes, n' things
> on the trail.
>
> > > Also was Angie's "3000 mile journey" with Kaboot footage.
> > > Very cool. I want a copy! Can you make one and send it?
> >
> >Recon I might.
>
> Oh please, oh please!
>
> >  I'll have to find where I saved it on tape then I could
> >burn to dvd.
>
> tell you what, can you burn anything you've got to
> DVD - it'd be interesting to see.
>
> >  I made that for a talk I did about what it's like for
> >somebody like me to sneak into international and since it seemed
like 90%
> >of what they wanted was for everyone to practice their trot outs,
there's
> >an awful lot of trotting out on the video. >g<
>
> that was the part where Kaboot's going along speedily
> with you trailing behind him like a kite string? :)
>
> >The more I think about it, it would be cool to make a video in
different
> >parts of the country just showing how things are done in different
> >regions.
>
> I'm game... if I had a video. I'll try and find out if
> we have video editing programs here at work, then work
> on borrowing a video.
>
> >...I do lots of videoing and burning
> >of videos just because it became a hobby after discovering the
editing
> >programs I had on my Mac at school. I think I'll try and do
a "this is
> >how a standard SE ride is run" version this summer that I can burn
for
> >anyone who wants to see. If my daughter Bonnie comes to Biltmore,
I'll
> >see if I can get her on the job. She's got a good hand,
>
> Yes! Have her do it. But make sure she videos the
> slow people as well, not just the speedy ones, so
> we get a complete overview <BG>.
>
>
> >as opposed to
> >Bill who tends to film headless people. :-)
>
> :)
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----

From: Lucy Chaplin Trumbull

To: new100milers@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, February 28, 2007 6:58 PM

Subject: [new100milers] leaving camp

Provo would always act drunk when asked to leave
camp. He'd also act drunk if you got close to
camp and then went the other direction.

Save me from horses with a good sense of direction.

><<I really wanted for him to do his first 100 on a 50 mile loop trail so he
>wouldn't be down about leaving camp. Instead he did it on an all holds in
>camp course and it didn't bother him one bit. >>
>
>I had the same fear, and the same experience as Angie.
>
>I kept thinking "Oh crikey, what if I have to BEAT him out of camp
>at 80 miles?"
>
>Never an issue.

>

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Lucy Chaplin Trumbull
elsietee AT foothill DOT net
Repotted english person in the Sierra foothills, California
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Angie:
>Wow, I was worried about how slow the riders were trotting in the trail
>footage of that.

<snort> yes... I wouldn't be caught dead trotting
that slowly... (?? <g>)

>  It was in Central Georgia in August and so hot it was
>just oppressive. I think it was upper 90's with really
>high humidity that day.

then she says:

>....it makes it tempting to trade out ride entries
>and get friends to do rides in other regions.


Lucy reads the paragraph about 90s with high humidity.

Lucy reads the paragraph about riding in other regions.

Lucy inspects her split-ends and works hard at formulating
a good excuse as to why she "won't be able to attend that
ride in Georgia this year, sorry".


>You could see everybody was extremely serious about the cooling. I
>rode that ride this year and though they said the temp and humidity were
>*technically* the same as the year before (when I filmed) that it wasn't
>nearly as bad. A breeze made all the difference.

the worst I've ridden in here is when it's really
hot and dry, and you can feel the skin on your face
shrivelling up and getting tighter and tighter. It's
like standing with your face hovering over the oven
when you open the door.

>I don't use the footage of the people who walk out. >g<

So what you're saying is, you could make a "fast video"
and a "slow video", depending on who you used.

>For instance, you guys
>can't imagine all these little loops coming in and out of the same camp.

I can imagine it, but I'm too darn spoilt to want to
do it. I don't like riding the same trail in the same
*month* if I can possibly help it.

But as you say, it focuses you differently. As Jonni
said, you can get sidetracked admiring the views and
not get moving, or you can be going down the trail,
eyes blurred from straining to look for those markers
at speed.

Chris seemed to think that if I ever got that "Elite
Horse" I'd ride differently, but I think I'm too lazy
to do it. I enjoy spotting mice n' snakes, n' things
on the trail.

> > Also was Angie's "3000 mile journey" with Kaboot footage.
> > Very cool. I want a copy! Can you make one and send it?
>
>Recon I might.

Oh please, oh please!

>  I'll have to find where I saved it on tape then I could
>burn to dvd.

tell you what, can you burn anything you've got to
DVD - it'd be interesting to see.

>  I made that for a talk I did about what it's like for
>somebody like me to sneak into international and since it seemed like 90%
>of what they wanted was for everyone to practice their trot outs, there's
>an awful lot of trotting out on the video. >g<

that was the part where Kaboot's going along speedily
with you trailing behind him like a kite string? :)

>The more I think about it, it would be cool to make a video in different
>parts of the country just showing how things are done in different
>regions.

I'm game... if I had a video. I'll try and find out if
we have video editing programs here at work, then work
on borrowing a video.

>...I do lots of videoing and burning
>of videos just because it became a hobby after discovering the editing
>programs I had on my Mac at school. I think I'll try and do a "this is
>how a standard SE ride is run" version this summer that I can burn for
>anyone who wants to see. If my daughter Bonnie comes to Biltmore, I'll
>see if I can get her on the job. She's got a good hand,

Yes! Have her do it. But make sure she videos the
slow people as well, not just the speedy ones, so
we get a complete overview <BG>.


>as opposed to
>Bill who tends to film headless people. :-)

:)



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elsietee AT foothill DOT net
Repotted english person in the Sierra foothills, California
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